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A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by MangekyoAlt: 7:54pm On Dec 21, 2021
Russia's ultimatum to the US and NATO ends in the next 20 days. The US and its sidekicks aren't looking like ones that would consider the proposals of the Russians.
Putin has said that a military and technical response would be taken swiftly when this happens.

Russian lawmakers are suggesting that Russia deploys intercontinental ballistic nuclear weapons to Cuba and Venezuela. I believe that is the decision russia would take first before launching an invation.

Apparently, the Ukrainian government are bragging about how they would beat back the Russians with their post soviet, obsolete weapons, of course. Do they have a chance?

I'm seeing reports that Russian citizens have started prepping for a nuclear warfare.

One of the proposals of the Russian govt is for the USA & her lapdogs to leave the eastern Europe with immediate effect. Failing to do so, could lead to a conventional warfare, and even a nuclear warfare.

Knowing how arrogant the USA actually is, they wouldn't agree to any of the Russian proposal

When this happens, do yall see a war unfolding? Would the Russians back down and accept that they can change the deep shit they're currently in. (which is the USA recruiting Ukraine to NATO and deploying advanced missiles to Russian borders) or instead invade Ukraine, capture it, have full control over it. That should rule out every chance of Ukraine joining Nato.... What do yall think?
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by Scholes007(m): 8:24pm On Dec 21, 2021
Russia's unilateral invasion of Ukraine will spell doom for her.

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by Nobody: 8:29pm On Dec 21, 2021
Russia will not like to fight NATO trust me Russia will bleed badly how will Russia be fighting like 20 country at once is not possible but if Russia strike Ukraine it will be a doom for them both economy and calamity and America will use them to show China is capacity and capability which will place China to think very well before acting America needs this war to make a point to the world the have dropped enough point, if Russia stupidly try it grin it will be bad news

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by Jokerman(m): 8:55pm On Dec 21, 2021
Trash... s.... there will be no.war
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by emae009(m): 9:05pm On Dec 21, 2021
Russian lawmakers are suggesting that Russia deploys intercontinental ballistic nuclear weapons to Cuba and Venezuela. I believe that is the decision russia would take first before launching an invation.

funniest ish I've read. Those lawmakers need to read the conditions for which Cuba is allowed to be friends with Russia.
Any ballistic missile in Cuba will be a full scale invasion of Cuba.
Russia tries to help, them collect join.
Joke of a suggestion. While likes the say all options are usually on the table so not surprised there
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by emmanuel1277: 6:21am On Dec 22, 2021
Bonesbreaker:
Russia will not like to fight NATO trust me Russia will bleed badly how will Russia be fighting like 20 country at once is not possible but if Russia strike Ukraine it will be a doom for them both economy and calamity and America will use them to show China is capacity and capability which will place China to think very well before acting America needs this war to make a point to the world the have dropped enough point, if Russia stupidly try it grin it will be bad news
Guy you are ignorant oh
Chai

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by RiceProducers: 8:48am On Dec 22, 2021
emmanuel1277:

Guy you are ignorant oh
Chai

They don't have resources to project power and sustain multi front conventional wars so they have built up impressive nuclear arsenals. Russia is also vulnerable to multi front invasions so they have tactical nukes. The ratings of superpower capacity for fighting wars is related to the ability to cut off C3I resources quickly and effectively in the first few hours. This is also where layman analyses fail. How does a superpower protect.its multi layered C3I and how easily does an enemy destroy it or take it over
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by sunboy(m): 8:48am On Dec 22, 2021
Bonesbreaker:
Russia will not like to fight NATO trust me Russia will bleed badly how will Russia be fighting like 20 country at once is not possible but if Russia strike Ukraine it will be a doom for them both economy and calamity and America will use them to show China is capacity and capability which will place China to think very well before acting America needs this war to make a point to the world the have dropped enough point, if Russia stupidly try it grin it will be bad news

Incase you don forget, this is not a NATO fight. Ukraine is not a NATO member yet, Russia is trying to keep it that way. Eventually, the nato Allie’s will supply them with aids, put plenty sanctions on Russia then leave Ukraine to its fate.

I hope the East and West can reach some win win agreement.
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by sunboy(m): 8:53am On Dec 22, 2021
emae009:
Russian lawmakers are suggesting that Russia deploys intercontinental ballistic nuclear weapons to Cuba and Venezuela. I believe that is the decision russia would take first before launching an invation.

funniest ish I've read. Those lawmakers need to read the conditions for which Cuba is allowed to be friends with Russia.
Any ballistic missile in Cuba will be a full scale invasion of Cuba.
Russia tries to help, them collect join.
Joke of a suggestion. While likes the say all options are usually on the table so not surprised there

You have a point though. But the same way there was some agreement on Cuba, same way was some agreement with the Russians.
Don’t miss that part.

The issue here is Cuba could decide to collect aids for Russia and take their weapons which would violate the agreement US had with Russia and escalate.

Same way, NATO is expanding East, which means it’s violating the arrangement they had with the past Russian govt, hence why Russia is para-ing. You gerrit now ? If you don’t gerrit Google is your friend, plenty articles.
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by sunboy(m): 8:55am On Dec 22, 2021
RiceProducers:


They don't have resources to project power and sustain multi front grin conventional wars so they have built up impressive nuclear arsenals. Russia is also vulnerable to multi front invasions so they have tactical nukes. The ratings of superpower capacity for fighting wars is related to the ability to cut off C3I resources quickly and effectively in the first few hours. This is also where layman analyses fail. How does a superpower protect.its multi layered C3I and how easily does an enemy destroy it or take it over

Where did you copied that grin
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by rottennaija(m): 9:16am On Dec 22, 2021
Bonesbreaker:
Russia will not like to fight NATO trust me Russia will bleed badly how will Russia be fighting like 20 country at once is not possible but if Russia strike Ukraine it will be a doom for them both economy and calamity and America will use them to show China is capacity and capability which will place China to think very well before acting America needs this war to make a point to the world the have dropped enough point, if Russia stupidly try it grin it will be bad news

This war will be the end of America. US will back down soon. Just watch.

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by emmanuel1277: 9:18am On Dec 22, 2021
RiceProducers:


They don't have resources to project power and sustain multi front conventional wars so they have built up impressive nuclear arsenals. Russia is also vulnerable to multi front invasions so they have tactical nukes. The ratings of superpower capacity for fighting wars is related to the ability to cut off C3I resources quickly and effectively in the first few hours. This is also where layman analyses fail. How does a superpower protect.its multi layered C3I and how easily does an enemy destroy it or take it over
This is why I say you are ignorant .....on the issue here.....there is no need to project power.....Russia is worried about its territorial integrity and the thing is it is technically impossible for its territory to be attacked without it leading to a catastrophic event and Russia is the one trying to prevent that here by halting NATO advance
And on conventional warfare bro Russia has the power to hold of america .....the only advantage america has in conventional military is with its air force and its projection which will be meaningless since the Russians have designed systems to ward that of

So bro you are talking something else

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by emae009(m): 9:57am On Dec 22, 2021
sunboy:


You have a point though. But the same way there was some agreement on Cuba, same way was some agreement with the Russians.
Don’t miss that part.

The issue here is Cuba could decide to collect aids for Russia and take their weapons which would violate the agreement US had with Russia and escalate.

Same way, NATO is expanding East, which means it’s violating the arrangement they had with the past Russian govt, hence why Russia is para-ing. You gerrit now ? If you don’t gerrit Google is your friend, plenty articles.

any ballistic missile in Cuba will lead to a full scale invasion of Cuba within 14 days. With a Naval blockade, Cuba will not get any external help. Anybody that tries to help will collect.

Part of that agreement was the backdoor removal of missiles from Turkey. Those missiles have been returned to Turkey but Russia don't have the global power to mobilize into the Western Hemisphere and drop missiles in Cuba anymore.
The Soviet Union had, Russia doesn't

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by emae009(m): 10:00am On Dec 22, 2021
emmanuel1277:

This is why I say you are ignorant .....on the issue here.....there is no need to project power.....Russia is worried about its territorial integrity and the thing is it is technically impossible for its territory to be attacked without it leading to a catastrophic event and Russia is the one trying to prevent that here by halting NATO advance
And on conventional warfare bro Russia has the power to hold of america .....the only advantage america has in conventional military is with its air force and its projection which will be meaningless since the Russians have designed systems to ward that of

So bro you are talking something else


the real question you should be asking yourself is why would America fight Russia when they have them where they want them. Just a regional power unlike the Soviet Union.
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by FoolishBoy419: 10:24pm On Dec 23, 2021
Bonesbreaker:
Russia will not like to fight NATO trust me Russia will bleed badly how will Russia be fighting like 20 country at once is not possible but if Russia strike Ukraine it will be a doom for them both economy and calamity and America will use them to show China is capacity and capability which will place China to think very well before acting America needs this war to make a point to the world the have dropped enough point, if Russia stupidly try it grin it will be bad news

With hundreds of nuclear weapons flying, the numbers of those NATO countries will not matter because at the end of the day, all of them will no more (including Russia).

NATO will swallow her own words the moment Putin takes Ukraine. I also see China following Putin's path by taking Taiwan

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by FoolishBoy419: 10:30pm On Dec 23, 2021
emae009:


any ballistic missile in Cuba will lead to a full scale invasion of Cuba within 14 days. With a Naval blockade, Cuba will not get any external help. Anybody that tries to help will collect.

Part of that agreement was the backdoor removal of missiles from Turkey. Those missiles have been returned to Turkey but Russia don't have the global power to mobilize into the Western Hemisphere and drop missiles in Cuba anymore.
The Soviet Union had, Russia doesn't

And somehow, you believe those nuclear weapons would remain idle while the invasion goes on. Even American soldiers don't talk about Russia with such disdain like the way you fanboys are doing. Let them grow the balls to invade North Korea first before thinking about Russia. Didn't they attack Iraq for 'having' WMDs?

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by emae009(m): 11:31pm On Dec 23, 2021
FoolishBoy419:


And somehow, you believe those nuclear weapons would remain idle while the invasion goes on. Even American soldiers don't talk about Russia with such disdain like the way you fanboys are doing. Let them grow the balls to invade North Korea first before thinking about Russia. Didn't they attack Iraq for 'having' WMDs?

there are no nuclear weapons in Cuba. If you don't know something as simple as that. why would I bother to have a conversation with you.
what's the end game in invading North Korea or Russia. The way some of you reason ehn! it's like you don't have the capacity to think at all!

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Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by vedaxcool(m): 8:27am On Dec 24, 2021
All this cowardice talk, we know cowards will never fight themselves, instead they resort to proxy wars. They are too cowardly to face themselves!
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by rottennaija(m): 8:48am On Dec 24, 2021
MangekyoAlt:
Russia's ultimatum to the US and NATO ends in the next 20 days. The US and its sidekicks aren't looking like ones that would consider the proposals of the Russians.
Putin has said that a military and technical response would be taken swiftly when this happens.

Russian lawmakers are suggesting that Russia deploys intercontinental ballistic nuclear weapons to Cuba and Venezuela. I believe that is the decision russia would take first before launching an invation.

Apparently, the Ukrainian government are bragging about how they would beat back the Russians with their post soviet, obsolete weapons, of course. Do they have a chance?

I'm seeing reports that Russian citizens have started prepping for a nuclear warfare.

One of the proposals of the Russian govt is for the USA & her lapdogs to leave the eastern Europe with immediate effect. Failing to do so, could lead to a conventional warfare, and even a nuclear warfare.

Knowing how arrogant the USA actually is, they wouldn't agree to any of the Russian proposal

When this happens, do yall see a war unfolding? Would the Russians back down and accept that they can change the deep shit they're currently in. (which is the USA recruiting Ukraine to NATO and deploying advanced missiles to Russian borders) or instead invade Ukraine, capture it, have full control over it. That should rule out every chance of Ukraine joining Nato.... What do yall think?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BROOU7KxsU
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by rottennaija(m): 8:50am On Dec 24, 2021
emae009:
Russian lawmakers are suggesting that Russia deploys intercontinental ballistic nuclear weapons to Cuba and Venezuela. I believe that is the decision russia would take first before launching an invation.

funniest ish I've read. Those lawmakers need to read the conditions for which Cuba is allowed to be friends with Russia.
Any ballistic missile in Cuba will be a full scale invasion of Cuba.
Russia tries to help, them collect join.
Joke of a suggestion. While likes the say all options are usually on the table so not surprised there


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BROOU7KxsU
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by RiceProducers: 2:07pm On Dec 24, 2021
"NATO expansion " is sovereign countries taking a decision to join that defence and security framework.
Russia cannot dictate to Poland, Estonia and others where they should be.

Maybe making Russia more attractive to its neighbors would prevent them joining NATO but the hegemon mentality has to be renounced by Russians
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by sunboy(m): 5:24pm On Dec 24, 2021
RiceProducers:
"NATO expansion " is sovereign countries taking a decision to join that defence and security framework.
Russia cannot dictate to Poland, Estonia and others where they should be.

Maybe making Russia more attractive to its neighbors would prevent them joining NATO but the hegemon mentality has to be renounced by Russians

You have a point o but Cuba, Venezuela and Belarus would gladly host Russian nukes too.

You gerrit ?
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by olugabbie(m): 7:32am On Dec 26, 2021
MangekyoAlt:
Russia's ultimatum to the US and NATO ends in the next 20 days. The US and its sidekicks aren't looking like ones that would consider the proposals of the Russians.
Putin has said that a military and technical response would be taken swiftly when this happens.

Russian lawmakers are suggesting that Russia deploys intercontinental ballistic nuclear weapons to Cuba and Venezuela. I believe that is the decision russia would take first before launching an invation.

Apparently, the Ukrainian government are bragging about how they would beat back the Russians with their post soviet, obsolete weapons, of course. Do they have a chance?

I'm seeing reports that Russian citizens have started prepping for a nuclear warfare.

One of the proposals of the Russian govt is for the USA & her lapdogs to leave the eastern Europe with immediate effect. Failing to do so, could lead to a conventional warfare, and even a nuclear warfare.

Knowing how arrogant the USA actually is, they wouldn't agree to any of the Russian proposal

When this happens, do yall see a war unfolding? Would the Russians back down and accept that they can change the deep shit they're currently in. (which is the USA recruiting Ukraine to NATO and deploying advanced missiles to Russian borders) or instead invade Ukraine, capture it, have full control over it. That should rule out every chance of Ukraine joining Nato.... What do yall think?

None of these leaders is ready for Nuclear war. Infact they don't want Nuclear war. If Russia invades Ukraine. The consequence will be heavy sanctions from US & it's allies. This has been mention by the US & the EU several times. Biden also said that there is no plan to send troops to Ukraine.

Russia does not want Ukraine to burn. The West has no choice than to accept some of the conditions. As long as Ukraine does not join Nato and the West stop arming them, the tension will fade away.
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by Sevenworldpower(m): 7:10pm On Dec 26, 2021
There can never be direct war confrontation between US/Nato and Russia just as war between China and US is not possible.
Cold war. There is already some cold war games between China and US. US/NATO can impose economic sanctions on Russia if Ukraine is invaded. Russia would feel the heat. Russia need to be more friendlies with their neighbours to prevent unnecessary tensions.
No matter the hatred for US or west, neither China or Russia would assume role of world power like US/UK.
I see balance of world powers among US, China , Russia, UK, France and likes to enforce certain global orders.
Re: A Full Scale War BTW Russia And NATO. What Are The Possibilities? by olugabbie(m): 6:56am On Dec 27, 2021
Bonesbreaker:
Russia will not like to fight NATO trust me Russia will bleed badly how will Russia be fighting like 20 country at once is not possible but if Russia strike Ukraine it will be a doom for them both economy and calamity and America will use them to show China is capacity and capability which will place China to think very well before acting America needs this war to make a point to the world the have dropped enough point, if Russia stupidly try it grin it will be bad news


The US & its allies will do everything possible to avoid confrontation with Russia. Russia can't defeat the US & NATO in a conventional war. US & NATO have more fighter jets, bombers, warships, submarines e.t.c than Russia. So if Russia feels threaten by the West, it will rely on its Nuclear weapon. Russia houses half of the world nukes.

So if Russia invade Ukraine. The only thing the West will do is to sanction Russia. They have repeatedly say this. Although, they talk tough on air. But they knw what is at stake. UK will not get itself involve in war that will give room for exchange of nukes with Russia. Same with US & other NATO members.

Likewise China. If China take Taiwan. Nothing will happen. No matter how sophisticated your air force or navy is, one Nuclear ballistic missile can render them useless. A nuclear war will be devastating for all parties involved.

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