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Minister of Defence Maj Gen Bashir Magashi (rtd) has revealed Nigeria’s intention to purchase Turkish attack helicopters to aid the war against insurgency in the country.

He mentioned this in an interview after a meeting with the Turkish Minister of National Defence Hulusi Akar.

kabe1:
Minister of Defence Maj Gen Bashir Magashi (rtd) has revealed Nigeria’s intention to purchase Turkish attack helicopters to aid the war against insurgency in the country.

He mentioned this in an interview after a meeting with the Turkish Minister of National Defence Hulusi Akar.

hope it's Army aviation purchase

Drive safely this holiday season

Somali National Army is said to have acquired Turkish armed UAVs. This image is of them training in Turkey

kabe1:
Merry Christmas from the Proforce PF Viper

Proforce PR is just like that of the military.p

kabe1:
Merry Christmas from the Proforce PF Viper

You guys have snow in December in Nigeria?

kabe1:
Minister of Defence Maj Gen Bashir Magashi (rtd) has revealed Nigeria’s intention to purchase Turkish attack helicopters to aid the war against insurgency in the country.

He mentioned this in an interview after a meeting with the Turkish Minister of National Defence Hulusi Akar.

Looks like Africa Intelligence is once again vindicated

Speaking of PR, dominating the narrative means the Nigerian military has to be first in documenting its annual progress, and not have to react to something like this, which is now being referenced far and wide.

https://www.calibreobscura.com/the-weaponry-of-is-west-africa-attrition-continues/

Lurker4Long:
You guys have snow in December in Nigeria?

The poster got your attention, whether it's a blizzard or dry harmattan PR has succeeded in passing the message.

shadowprimezero:
Looks like Africa Intelligence is once again vindicated

We've been interested in the T-129 for a very long time now. Until we see the M-346 in Nigeria colours I'm still skeptical about Africa Intelligence.

Lurker4Long:
Speaking of PR, dominating the narrative means the Nigerian military has to be first in documenting its annual progress, and not have to react to something like this, which is now being referenced far and wide.

https://www.calibreobscura.com/the-weaponry-of-is-west-africa-attrition-continues/

While this is a PR coup for the insurgents, it doesn't really change battlefield dynamics on the ground. The Insurgents are contained primarily around Lake Chad and Northern Borno and have not made any gains anywhere else. Even the article from @CalibreObscura, who i consider a terrorists apologists/enabler doesn't point to any actual gains.

A good measure is the quality of infrastructure currently been built by the State Governor in Borno state.

For a state ravaged by an insurgency this level of infrastructural development, that impacts the lives of actual people in Borno state is impressive.

What does this even mean?

This statement makes no sense, does America expect the UAVs to be used against the Ethiopian government?


@shadowprimezero, these are the issues. They might be the best in the world, but America won't let them succeed.

kabe1:
We've been interested in the T-129 for a very long time now. Until we see the M-346 in Nigeria colours I'm still skeptical about Africa Intelligence.

As for the M-346, an official of the ministry of defense mentioned it in a documentary produced by the airforce, the airforce wouldn't include it if it wasn't true.

kabe1:
What does this even mean?

This statement makes no sense, does America expect the UAVs to be used against the Ethiopian government?


@shadowprimezero, these are the issues. They might be the best in the world, but America won't let them succeed.

The US has tried, and for the most part succeeded to keep the monopoly on UAV technology to itself for decades, since the debut of the MQ-1 Predator in Bosnia, 1995. The cat is now fully out of the bag and with the way Turkish drones in particular, are shifting the dynamics on multiple battlefields across the globe. The US naturally fears what it can't control and has come to the realisation that its options are limited in countering UAV proliferation on the geopolitical scene.

shadowprimezero:
The US has tried, and for the most part succeeded to keep the monopoly on UAV technology to itself for decades, since the debut of the MQ-1 Predator in Bosnia, 1995. The cat is now fully out of the bag and with the way Turkish drones in particular, are shifting the dynamics on multiple battlefields across the globe. The US naturally fears what it can't control and has come to the realisation that its options are limited in countering UAV proliferation on the geopolitical scene.

Like I've told you time and again, don't underestimate the reach of American foreign policy. The Americans are brutal.

Very good examples in recent times are AUKUS, Egypt and Indonesia abandoning their respective SU-35 deals in Russia and Denmark purchasing F-35s, even this same Turkey with the stalled sale of T-129s to Pakistan.

The US will not allow Turkey grow it's defence industry to a point where it cannot exert influence on her.

Another good example is Mali, Malian Air Force have been unable to receive Airbus C-295 transport planes it ordered from France.

If the United States can humiliate France, it's ally from the American war of Independence, I don't know what you think Turkey a middle income country would be able to do.

Whyem15:
As for the M-346, an official of the ministry of defense mentioned it in a documentary produced by the airforce, the airforce wouldn't include it if it wasn't true.

Which is also very correct, but we have passed the end of year deadline he talked about in the documentary.

MI35M

NA Dongfengs already on the frontlines

Nigerian Navy NNS Lana

kabe1:
What does this even mean?

This statement makes no sense, does America expect the UAVs to be used against the Ethiopian government?


@shadowprimezero, these are the issues. They might be the best in the world, but America won't let them succeed.

One of the reasons they can & will exert pressure

Lot of subsystems in turkish systems are US / EU

Plus many of the top engineers / scientists are from US / EU

(Turks offers zero tax incentives aside from million dollar+ packages to employ foreigners in their weapons programs)

X

Lurker4Long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPV_qO-Wct0

kabe1:
Minister of Defence Maj Gen Bashir Magashi (rtd) has revealed Nigeria’s intention to purchase Turkish attack helicopters to aid the war against insurgency in the country.

He mentioned this in an interview after a meeting with the Turkish Minister of National Defence Hulusi Akar.

Not a good idea. We should be going for Bell Helicopters AH1s. There is no credible service record for T129. I am also pretty sure that the type has undergone some extensive re-development just to break sanctions. There is no evidence that the sub systems added or replaced would give good reliable service

RiceProducers:
Not a good idea. We should be going for Bell Helicopters AH1s. There is no credible service record for T129. I am also pretty sure that the type has undergone some extensive re-development just to break sanctions. There is no evidence that the sub systems added or replaced would give good reliable service

The T129 used originally the LHTEC T800 engine but for export the less efficient (Turkey made) TEI TS1400 is offered. Philippines bought the LHTEC T800 engine in a separate deal between Turkey and the US for their T129. This could also be for us a way to push the deal through.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-approves-export-licence-t129-helicopter-turkey-philippines

SuperSixSeven:
The T129 used originally the LHTEC T800 engine but for export the less efficient (Turkey made) TEI TS1400 is offered. Philippines bought the LHTEC T800 engine in a separate deal between Turkey and the US for their T129. This could also be for us a way to push the deal through.

How sensible is it to use TEI TS1400?
We are not talking mission reliability but operations reliability. That is the ability to do many sorties a week for many weeks in a year for many years.

What is TEI TS1400 anyway but another engine that will still depend on subsystems and components made by US affiliated companies or companies financed by US affiliated banks.

The technical partner of TEI is GE Aviation. That's a subsidiary of GE.

RiceProducers:
How sensible is it to use TEI TS1400?
Where are not talking mission reliability but operations reliability. That is the ability to do many sorties a week for many weeks in a year for many years.

What is TEI TS1400 anyway but another engine that will still depend on subsystems and components made by US affiliated companies or companies financed by US affiliated banks.

The technical partner of TEI is GE Aviation. That's a subsidiary of GE.

Maybe all this negotiations are just a political maneuver showing the US Nigeria's flexibility in defence acquisition.

SuperSixSeven:
Maybe all this negotiations are just a political maneuver showing the US Nigeria's flexibility in defence acquisition.

Yes. It is posturing.