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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by VOICEofORIENTAL: 8:29am On Dec 23, 2021
Advocate500:
mr development, where is the development in Ibadan? osun ,ekiti, ogun and ekiti state? Should we be using Lagos state which development was as result the effort of the entire nation.
stop this unnecessary comparison... no wise person compares him/her self with others,.. its only a fool or a proud person that does so

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Kreme(m): 8:32am On Dec 23, 2021
Advocate500:
i wouldn't like to join issues with your illusions but one thing is very clear ,aside Lagos no part of western region can be compared with the either anambra ,imo or Enugu state. I have been ogun and Oyo state, i can authoritatively tell you that those cities are nothing to [/s]right home[s] about, so you are free to deceive yourself.
Omo ibo you mean Write home about?
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by PHIPEX(m): 8:35am On Dec 23, 2021
louqas:


Another truth is that the east has always lagged behind the other two region.. hear Clark

"Clark said, Chief Obafemi Awolowo of the the Western region and Sir Ahmadu Bello of the Northern region were able to develop their regions above the Eastern region
as a result of the practice of the principle of derivation.

“The Eastern Region did not progress like the other two regions."

The earlier the east admit they are not equal to the other two region the better for them so they stop trying to equate themselves with the west and north. Ibos are not marginalized as they have their fair share of everything but greed and misinformation make them think they deserve more. Their 5 states is even generous considering the states are among the most unproductive in the federation
The other truth was that when the sharing fomular favoured you through cocoa you never complained, now that the pendulum swung to the other side you are getting jealous and run them down through your media, that's hypocrisy.

You must be really a child to call the East unproductive, how do you measure productivity, what are the states' GDP compared to the rest?

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Advocate500: 8:36am On Dec 23, 2021
VOICEofORIENTAL:
stop this unnecessary comparison... no wise person compares him/her self with others,.. its only a fool or a proud person that does so
oga take your opinion out my mention abeg ,i only reply a quote which i see to be insulting to my region .why not criticise the person that quoted me ? Efulefu.

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by GGirll: 9:06am On Dec 23, 2021
I don't like reading anything these old hags have to offer, they all had their chances but blew it, I only thank God for His faithful judgement, if they can't be judged by man, at least they can't escape God's judgement the righteous judge.
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Ceazario: 9:10am On Dec 23, 2021
Useless old man. After enriching yourself at the expense of your people you are now pushing blames. What did good luck do and you were the person ordering him around to build you a university. Oloriburuku
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by faste: 9:52am On Dec 23, 2021
Advocate500:
i wouldn't like to join issues with your illusions but one thing is very clear ,aside Lagos no part of western region can be compared with the either anambra ,imo or Enugu state. I have been ogun and Oyo state, i can authoritatively tell you that those cities are nothing to right home about, so you are free to deceive yourself.
The West is all about lagos and nothing more!
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by faste: 9:56am On Dec 23, 2021
walefresh3:
oga counter these... Do u have dis in your dungeon better than Western region ?
U guys don't know what they call development
Unaa go just dey show us house without any meaningful contribution to your state purse.. that's why your igr and vat its low if compare to others.

sw is the most developed region in Nigeria. the region that generate most from human resources is the most developed. You can't compared it with region that depends only on natural resources.(1) the highest number of most and best functioning institutions and religion certers are in the sw. (2)the most popular , the most beautiful and best AIRPORT with highest incomes IN NIGERIA IS IN THE SW( THE MOST POPULAR AND THE BEST ENTERTAINMENT CENTER IN AFRICA ITS IN SW. (3) NUMBERS OF MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE IN NIGERIA EITHER YORUBA , IGBO OR OTHER TRIBES RESIDE IN SW.(4)THE NIGERIA'S BEST SEAPORTS IS IN SW. (5) HIGHEST NUMBERS OF RICH PEOPLES IN NIGERIA RESIDE IN SW.(5) THE RICHESTS AND MOST POPULAR CELEBRITIES IN NIGERIA RESIDE IN SW. (6)80% of x governor's in the southern Nigeria reside in SW.(7) The most beautiful city and local governments in Nigeria is located in SW .( the best and most beautiful pedestrian bridge is located in SW.(9) the best hospital in Nigeria is located in the heart of SW. (10) the second best and most expensive estate is located in SW . ( highest numbers and best television stations in Nigeria is located in sw. (11) All head quarters of banking industry in Nigeria is located in SW. (12) 95% of goods consume in Nigeria is manufacturered in Sw. .( 13) 95% finished goods and raw materials coming into Nigeria through either airport , seaport or land border passed through SW. make I stop here. triberlism don kill us for Nigeria. to say the truth dey hurt us , most especially my brother of the other side. hatred no go make unna say the truth. if all dis i mentioned above are located in one region and you're still saying they are in third position then , I am short of words.
Most well structured pharmacies in Nigeria are owned by Yoruba... I am not talking about chemist work....I went to turkey and Dubai... Naa dis same Yoruba be black African wey dey control most of the activities there... Abeg no let any body deceive u here... Pls do ur research urself... 75% of black doctors for UK be Yoruba .. even for Dubai and Turkey... Abeg make una no compare ...
See yourself..ranting without fact and figure!

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by faste: 10:01am On Dec 23, 2021
wink2015:
OBASANJO OWN DEY HIM BODY.

HE ( OBASANJO ) WANT TO PROVE TO ALL THAT HE LOVES NIGERIA THAN ANY OTHER PERSON.

HE WANTS TO SOUND TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT BEFORE HIS NORTHERN FRIENDS EVEN AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SUFFERING SOUTHERNERS PARTICULARLY THE YORUBA ETHNIC GROUP WHOM HE BELONGS.

Obasanjo seems to have forgotten that resources is getting depleted and the northerners are not willing to share the resources from their own homeland.

They are hellbent on sharing the resources of the Niger delta people while they keep their Agricultural land untapped.

Southerners should not be giving respect to Obasanjo because he is not a true son of the south.

He is just there jumping from one boat to another seeking for ways to please the average northerners.

WHAT IS ZAMFARA STATE DOING WITH THE GOLD DEPOSIT THAT THEY HAVE?

Why has Obasanjo not find out why the gold is not being tapped and shared to other states?

What is happening now in Zamfara state is a planned work with the federal government silencing the states to hide their gold deposit while they focus attention on crude oil from the Niger delta region.

Go to the Niger delta region and see the devastation of crude oil, infact one recently happened in Nembe in Rivers state involving an oil company Aiteo.

The oil spill in Nembe destroyed marine life around the vicinity of the crude oil spill.

So when the people of the Niger delta speaks about resources control it is because of the years of neglect and other untold suffering they have been experiencing as their money is taking to Abuja to share to lazy states while their people are meant to face the effect of crude oil exploration.

Constitutionally, Nigeria should practise true federalism, where resources allocation should be based on derivation.

All the good old people don die finish,this Satan no wan die...he claims to be a patriotic but wanted to change the Constitution to favour his third term greed!

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Deadlytruth(m): 10:03am On Dec 23, 2021
Advocate500:
Thank God is coming from one of their elder ,so under Michael okpara ,the oil producing state was receiving 50% derivation? Under the one Nigeria they supported the killing of their neighbours because of the same oil they are made to enjoy only 13%.


But some people have been pushing a narrative that the igbos marginalised the oil producing state under the defunct old eastern region. So it's was actually the west that marginalised the midwest, we are learning, the truth will be made open one day and all this fairytales of igbos hating the people of niger delta will be led to rest with facts that will be glaring to all.


He pointed out that the derivative principle continued till the discovery of oil in commercial quantity at Oloibiri in 1956 which the then Prime Minister, Alhaji Tafawa Balewa, sent congratulatory message to the then Premier of the Eastern Region, Dr. Michael Okpara.

The sharing formula at the time was 50% of the revenue for the owning State, while 20% and 30% goes to the Federal government and distributable pool, for sharing among the regions, including the contributing region.


So after reading the bolded in Clarke's letter you concluded that the going of 50% to the producing area was done by Michael Okpara despite you read it clearly that Balewa was the one who congratulated Okpara for joining the club of those to be receiving 50% derivation?
Per your second line of arguement, there was not yet any discovery of crude oil in the Midwest while it was still part of the Old Western Region so the West didn't cheat the Midwest of crude oil revenue and Edwin Clark didn't so insinuate.
Most importantly you read where he made it clear that the Igbo coups of January 1966 destroyed the constitution by which this 50% derivation was being enjoyed.

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Deadlytruth(m): 10:10am On Dec 23, 2021
christistruth01:

It was because Obasanjo hated Niger Delta that he Supported Goodluck Jonathan into Power when the Core North was adamantly against it and wanted Turai Yaradua Sworn in as Vice President so she could easily take her Husband President Yaradua's place after he fell ill

Can we extend this arguement of yours to also say that it was because IBB and the North loved the SW that they used cash and military influence to buldoze the better qualified Alex Ekweme an Igbo man out of the way in 1999 to enable Obasanjo clinch the PDP ticket in 1999 despite he, Obasanjo, fell far short of PDP NWC criteria?

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Ekealterego: 10:11am On Dec 23, 2021
Kreme:
Omo ibo you mean Write home about?
*Omo Igbo, do you mean,
"write home about"?

Use your punctuations and quotation marks, they are not there for decoration.
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Thoh(m): 10:18am On Dec 23, 2021
VOICEofORIENTAL:
How, please explain?
Old eastern region was dominated by Ibos..
Ibos took everything upon themselves.. ibos are worst than Fulanis when in power..

Some idiot ipigs say we Ijaws should go back to the disaster eastern region....thunder fire them

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by 9Pluto(m): 10:19am On Dec 23, 2021
Igboid:


Clark is a demented old man with the typical "Awa Oyel" and "Ibos want Awa Oyel" mentality.
Eastern region Never used the money from whatever crude oil in Ijawland for development.
Oil was discovered in Oloibiri in 1956 quite alright, but by 1957, oil was also discovered in Igboland in Afam Ndokiland! Which was part of Aba division then, in bigger quantity than was found in Oloibiri because those in Oloibiri have dried up, but Afam still produces until today!
This is the fact those lazy lots usually leave out to drive home their brainless "Ibos want Awa Oyel" agenda.

Secondary, Eastern region never received any revenue from crude oil until during the war when it was due for shell to pay.
This is because, she'll had to offset the money they invested in exploration and exploitation of the oil first.

I attached receipts of crude oil revenue by Nigeria from 1960 downwards.
Bear in mind that Eastern region stopped in 1966 when Okpara was deposed.

So how exactly did Okpara, Eastern region and Ndiigbo in particular use Oloibiri oil to fund the region?
How exactly were Ijawland marginalized?
The bulk of Eastern region resources came from Coal in Enugu and palm oil in Igboland and Ibibio land, and as well as PAYE tax system that Chief Imoke introduced, with most business owners being Igbos, we were also contributing the bulk of the tax used to run the region.

Clark is a clown and we should never stay silent and allow these minorities parrot those senseless stories.
Pic 1 - Crude oil revenue
Pic 2- Oil discovery in Igboland
Pic3- Dr Imoke introduced PAYE tax system to augment Eastern region revenue.

Thank for sharing this. Let Clark and his crew keep spreading their propaganda. The truth will always come to light.

The same old Eastern region that became one of the fastest growing economy in the world without crude oil input.

The sames old Eastern region whose footprints dots the landscape like a colossus. From the Trans Amadi industrial hub in Portharcourt and it's presidential hotel, to the industrial hub in Enugu, the cattle ranch in Obudu, the rubber and palm plantations littered all over the place. The scholarship board with its numerous beneficiaries etc

Liars can keep lieing but records would always prove them wrong.

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by mystery22: 10:21am On Dec 23, 2021
louqas:


Another truth is that the east has always lagged behind the other two region.. hear Clark

"Clark said, Chief Obafemi Awolowo of the the Western region and Sir Ahmadu Bello of the Northern region were able to develop their regions above the Eastern region
as a result of the practice of the principle of derivation.

“The Eastern Region did not progress like the other two regions."

The earlier the east admit they are not equal to the other two region the better for them so they stop trying to equate themselves with the west and north. Ibos are not marginalized as they have their fair share of everything but greed and misinformation make them think they deserve more. Their 5 states is even generous considering the states are among the most unproductive in the federation
clown keep deceiving yourself,who are the best brains in Nigeria currently?....ok let's divide if you truly believe so,you and your papa say no...even fought and died to keep us together...
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Kreme(m): 10:30am On Dec 23, 2021
Ekealterego:

*Omo Igbo, do you mean,
"write home about"?

Use your punctuations and quotation marks, they are not there for decoration.
No sir ,I mean Omo ibo not Igbo....And are you too blind that you can't see that the statement "right home about" have been underlined when I quoted him....Whoever you are,stay off my mention if you don't want to suffer tragic loss for the remainder of this year....my 2 cents

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Fejoku: 10:31am On Dec 23, 2021
walefresh3:
Weytin concern us ? If you like travel all over the world it doesn't change the status of your region...
U meant you know better than him ?

Read again...
Clark said, Chief Obafemi Awolowo of the the Western region and Sir Ahmadu Bello of the Northern region were able to develop their regions above the Eastern region
as a result of the practice of the principle of derivation.

“The Eastern Region did not progress like the other two regions. From the benefits of the practice of derivation principle, the Western Region introduced free education, built universities, the first Television in Africa, among other economic and social infrastructure, including hiring at the time, an Israeli Company, Soleh Bole, to develop roads and other infrastructure.”

He pointed out that the derivative principle continued till the discovery of oil in commercial quantity at Oloibiri in 1956 which the then Prime Minister, Alhaji Tafawa Balewa, sent congratulatory message to the then Premier of the Eastern Region, Dr. Michael Okpara.

The sharing formula at the time was 50% of the revenue for the owning State, while 20% and 30% goes to the Federal government and distributable pool, for sharing among the regions, including the contributing region.

“Your Excellency, as you are very much aware, this was the situation for sharing the fiscal assets of the federation among the regions of the country until the 1966 coup that suspended the Constitution.

“The Cocoa House and the Liberty Stadium all in Ibadan, the Western House in Lagos and the Oodua group of companies, one of the biggest companies in Nigeria, are solely owned by the Western Region. One very disappointing thing that happened in the whole of this, was when the Midwest Region, to which I belonged, was created out of the Western Region, the Western Region, bluntly refused to share assets with the Midwest Region on the reason that the Midwest Region did not contribute anything to the Western Region and to its economy.”

He explained the the northern region was well coordinated in the joint ownership of assets compared to South East region, a situation that badly affected them at the time.
You should learn to under the basics of an argument before delving into it. Clarke has no busy attributing the poor performance of his region in Delta to the Eastern region. His Gbaramatu kingdom was never under the government of the Eastern region. You can read it up and counter me if I'm wrong.
The failure of the elders of today stemmed from their parochial decisions of yesterday. Clark and his likes have started understanding that fighting against Igbos in the Nigerian jungle can never benefit them. I hope that younger Ijaws like him will learn it too.

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Nchenches: 10:38am On Dec 23, 2021
GGirll:
I don't like reading anything these old hags have to offer, they all had their chances but blew it, I only thank God for His faithful judgement, if they can't be judged by man, at least they can't escape God's judgement the righteous judge.

They blew their chances to control the resources found in their backyard wnen some so-called elders of the now SS region went to Kaduna in 1967, and begged the then governor of Northern region, Hassan Katsina, to beg then HoS, Yakubu Gowon, to carve the non-Igbo speaking areas of the old Eastern region out from Biafra.

Gowon quickly carved Cross River and Rivers states out of Biafra.
Immediately after that, northern politicians and soldiers grabbed the multi million dollars oil blocks in the southsouth for keeps.

Carving Cross River and Rivers states from Biafra contributed to the early fall of riverine areas to Nigeria and which led ultimately to defeat for Biafra.

Unfortunately, there may still be pockets of elders now in the SS like those erratic elders of the old.
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Advocate500: 10:42am On Dec 23, 2021
Deadlytruth:



He pointed out that the derivative principle continued till the discovery of oil in commercial quantity at Oloibiri in 1956 which the then Prime Minister, Alhaji Tafawa Balewa, sent congratulatory message to the then Premier of the Eastern Region, Dr. Michael Okpara.

The sharing formula at the time was 50% of the revenue for the owning State, while 20% and 30% goes to the Federal government and distributable pool, for sharing among the regions, including the contributing region.


So after reading the bolded in Clarke's letter you concluded that the going of 50% to the producing area was done by Michael Okpara despite you read it clearly that Balewa was the one who congratulated Okpara for joining the club of those to be receiving 50% derivation?
Per your second line of arguement, there was not yet any discovery of crude oil in the Midwest while it was still part of the Old Western Region so the West didn't cheat the Midwest of crude oil revenue and Edwin Clark didn't so insinuate.
Most importantly you read where he made it clear that the Igbo coups of January 1966 destroyed the constitution by which this 50% derivation was being enjoyed.
you chose the one agree with and the one to disagree with, i have no issue with that, oil or no oil Clarke carefully mentioned the west marginalising the midwest as at the time. Maybe you need to read it the second time.
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Deadlytruth(m): 10:47am On Dec 23, 2021
Owologbo:

Some time, you can deceive yourself calling yourself as wise but in the real sense you are are epitome of pull them down children of hate.
Obadanjo made a law that anything beyond 6ft belong to the government, but your gold belong to you only.
don't you think that is inhuman?

I can see your anger. I am not from the SW. However, recall that the SW rejected Obasanjo's bid to become president in 1999 but was supported and voted massively for by the SS and SE now complaining of his anti-resource control antecedents. What were you people expecting when you were voting for a stooge of the North whom Northerners presented because of having a history of defending their interest at the expense of the South's?

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Deadlytruth(m): 10:50am On Dec 23, 2021
Advocate500:
you chose the one agree with and the one to disagree with, i have no issue with that, oil or no oil Clarke carefully mentioned the west marginalising the midwest as at the time. Maybe you need to read it the second time.

Read me well. I didn't say the West didn't marginalize the Midwest. Of course that was why we chose to exit it in the first instance. What I am saying is that the marginalization in question was not about oil. Read the story again and you would see where Clark only spoke of the marginalization in terms of assets sharing and never oil which was yet unknown in the Midwest then.
Then the other fact is that the East marginalized the Eastern Region minorities back then and that explains their quest for COR Region and the eventual Isaac Adaka Boro secession declaration.

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by franchasng: 11:06am On Dec 23, 2021
walefresh3:
oga counter these... Do u have dis in your dungeon better than Western region ?
U guys don't know what they call development
Unaa go just dey show us house without any meaningful contribution to your state purse.. that's why your igr and vat its low if compare to others.

sw is the most developed region in Nigeria. the region that generate most from human resources is the most developed. You can't compared it with region that depends only on natural resources.(1) the highest number of most and best functioning institutions and religion certers are in the sw. (2)the most popular , the most beautiful and best AIRPORT with highest incomes IN NIGERIA IS IN THE SW( THE MOST POPULAR AND THE BEST ENTERTAINMENT CENTER IN AFRICA ITS IN SW. (3) NUMBERS OF MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE IN NIGERIA EITHER YORUBA , IGBO OR OTHER TRIBES RESIDE IN SW.(4)THE NIGERIA'S BEST SEAPORTS IS IN SW. (5) HIGHEST NUMBERS OF RICH PEOPLES IN NIGERIA RESIDE IN SW.(5) THE RICHESTS AND MOST POPULAR CELEBRITIES IN NIGERIA RESIDE IN SW. (6)80% of x governor's in the southern Nigeria reside in SW.(7) The most beautiful city and local governments in Nigeria is located in SW .( the best and most beautiful pedestrian bridge is located in SW.(9) the best hospital in Nigeria is located in the heart of SW. (10) the second best and most expensive estate is located in SW . ( highest numbers and best television stations in Nigeria is located in sw. (11) All head quarters of banking industry in Nigeria is located in SW. (12) 95% of goods consume in Nigeria is manufacturered in Sw. .( 13) 95% finished goods and raw materials coming into Nigeria through either airport , seaport or land border passed through SW. make I stop here. triberlism don kill us for Nigeria. to say the truth dey hurt us , most especially my brother of the other side. hatred no go make unna say the truth. if all dis i mentioned above are located in one region and you're still saying they are in third position then , I am short of words.
Most well structured pharmacies in Nigeria are owned by Yoruba... I am not talking about chemist work....I went to turkey and Dubai... Naa dis same Yoruba be black African wey dey control most of the activities there... Abeg no let any body deceive u here... Pls do ur research urself... 75% of black doctors for UK be Yoruba .. even for Dubai and Turkey... Abeg make una no compare ...
Southwest is the most developed region in Nigeria yes we agree.


But if Southwest start a serious agitation to secede from Nigeria, take it from me, despite the huge investments Igbos have in Southwest, Igbos will massively support Southwest to secede.


But any time Yorubas or Hausa-Fulanis hear that Southeast want to secede from Nigeria, they all start to bleed from every angle of their body. They start to drum for war to make sure Igbos dont leave them yet they make the loudest noise of being the most developed region。


Why not allow Igbos secede and 20 years later lets check how far without any other excuses.



Igbos are the thread holding Nigeria's development, you all know the truth.


Igbos have the highest number of investments all over Nigeria. They have the highest in Southwest, Northeast, Northwest, North central, Southsouth and Southeast.



The only tribe that invest in all regions of Nigeria without fear or prejudice are the Igbos, the statistics is glaring for all to see yet you guys make the highest noise of yeye unrealistic paper IGR.



Make out time and visit Imo, Anambra, Enugu and compare them with Ogun, Osun, Ekiti or Ondo. But unfortunately an average Yoruba person is cowardly and rarely step outside his region, his highest travel is to UK, US, etc, he doesn't have the courage to go to daring cities out of fear, he only goes to established cities built by daring people.



Igbos are like the ancient European explorers, expeditors and voyagers who toured around the world discovering new lands without fear they abandon their developed comfort zones in Europe to explore dangerous lands and thats what makes them the bedrock of global development till date.



Look at Chinese today, they are everywhere in the world, they dont stay in China and claim China is richer and more developed than Africa, instead they are already all over Africa owning almost all African investments. Those are the traits of great tribes and races, not cowardice and bragging in your hut

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Igboid: 11:08am On Dec 23, 2021
Deadlytruth:


Read me well. I didn't say the West didn't marginalize the Midwest. Of course that was why we chose to exit it in the first instance. What I am saying is that the marginalization in question was not about oil. Read the story again and you would see where Clark only spoke of the marginalization in terms of assets sharing and never oil which was yet unknown in the Midwest then.
Then the other fact is that the East marginalized the Eastern Region minorities back then and that explains their quest for COR Region and the eventual Isaac Adaka Boro secession declaration.

The. Willink commission report clearly proved beyond reasonable doubt that Igbos never marginalized the minorities.
Especially when you consider that Crude oil was not a source of revenue for Eastern region but Coal and Palm oil and taxation, which Ndiigbo contributed a lion share of.

https://www.nairaland.com/6586330/how-ndiigbo-oppressed-marginalized-eastern

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Advocate500: 11:09am On Dec 23, 2021
Deadlytruth:


Read me well. I didn't say the West didn't marginalize the Midwest. Of course that was why we chose to exit it in the first instance. What I am saying is that the marginalization in question was not about oil. Read the story again and you would see where Clark only spoke of the marginalization in terms of assets sharing and never oil which was yet unknown in the Midwest then.
Then the other fact is that the East marginalized the Eastern Region minorities back then and that explains their quest for COR Region and the eventual Isaac Adaka Boro secession declaration.
yes I agree with you, but if you understand my initial statement is centred on marginalisation based on one side narrative. The way that of old eastern region was amplified you will never believe marginalisation existed in the old western region, that is the only point was trying to defend.
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Igboid: 11:14am On Dec 23, 2021
louqas:


Another truth is that the east has always lagged behind the other two region.. hear Clark

"Clark said, Chief Obafemi Awolowo of the the Western region and Sir Ahmadu Bello of the Northern region were able to develop their regions above the Eastern region
as a result of the practice of the principle of derivation.

“The Eastern Region did not progress like the other two regions."

The earlier the east admit they are not equal to the other two region the better for them so they stop trying to equate themselves with the west and north. Ibos are not marginalized as they have their fair share of everything but greed and misinformation make them think they deserve more. Their 5 states is even generous considering the states are among the most unproductive in the federation

Clark is a clown.
The East was led by technocrats like Imoke and Okpara and held her weight well.
See the available stats here not rubbish from Clark's demented brain.

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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by tommy589(m): 11:22am On Dec 23, 2021
Advocate500:
you chose the one agree with and the one to disagree with, i have no issue with that, oil or no oil Clarke carefully mentioned the west marginalising the midwest as at the time. Maybe you need to read it the second time.

Awolowo was an apostle for a loose federation. No other leader was ready to listen to minorities agitations for their own region, but he did by creating Midwest out of Western region. I don't know the facts behind revenue sharing, but I am sure he won't hold back what rightfully belong to the Midwest.

Bendelites are too intelligent for anyone to take them for a ride. If Awolowo marginalised Midwest that later became Bendel state, they won't vote massively for Prof. Ambrose Ali, Awolowo's UPN party governorship flag bearer in 1979 election
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by nku5: 11:23am On Dec 23, 2021
Deadlytruth:


Most importantly you read where he made it clear that the Igbo coups of January 1966 destroyed the constitution by which this 50% derivation was being enjoyed.

Gowon destroyed the 50% derivation. Do some research pls
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by Advocate500: 11:26am On Dec 23, 2021
tommy589:


Awolowo was an apostle for a loose federation. No other leader was ready to listen to minorities agitations for their own region, but he did by creating Midwest out of Western region. I don't know the facts behind revenue sharing, but I am sure he won't hold back what rightfully belong to the Midwest.

Bendelites are too intelligent for anyone to take them for a ride. If Awolowo marginalised Midwest that later became Bendel state, they won't vote massively for Prof. Ambrose Ali, Awolowo's UPN party governorship flag bearer in 1979 election
so Edwin Clark is lying?
Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by LZAA: 11:27am On Dec 23, 2021
franchasng:
Southwest is the most developed region in Nigeria yes we agree.


But if Southwest start a serious agitation to secede from Nigeria, take it from me, despite the huge investments Igbos have in Southwest, Igbos will massively support Southwest to secede.


But any time Yorubas or Hausa-Fulanis hear that Southeast want to secede from Nigeria, they all start to bleed from every angle of their body. They start to drum for war to make sure Igbos dont leave them yet they make the loudest noise of being the most developed region。


Why not allow Igbos secede and 20 years later lets check how far without any other excuses.



Igbos are the thread holding Nigeria's development, you all know the truth.


Igbos have the highest number of investments all over Nigeria. They have the highest in Southwest, Northeast, Northwest, North central, Southsouth and Southeast.



The only tribe that invest in all regions of Nigeria without fear or prejudice are the Igbos, the statistics is glaring for all to see yet you guys make the highest noise of yeye unrealistic paper IGR.



Make out time and visit Imo, Anambra, Enugu and compare them with Ogun, Osun, Ekiti or Ondo. But unfortunately an average Yoruba person is cowardly and rarely step outside his region, his highest travel is to UK, US, etc, he doesn't have the courage to go to daring cities out of fear, he only goes to established cities built by daring people.



Igbos are like the ancient European explorers, expeditors and voyagers who toured around the world discovering new lands without fear they abandon their developed comfort zones in Europe to explore dangerous lands and thats what makes them the bedrock of global development till date.



Look at Chinese today, they are everywhere in the world, they dont stay in China and claim China is richer and more developed than Africa, instead they are already all over Africa owning almost all African investments. Those are the traits of great tribes and races, not cowardice and bragging in your hut
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Re: Resource Control: Edwin Clark Tackles Obasanjo, Recalls Ugly Past by nku5: 11:31am On Dec 23, 2021
Edwin Clark and his unfortunate generation have nothing to show for the Ijaw/Niger Delta alliance with the North since the First Republic.

It is the north that took 50% derivation down to 0% but it's Obasanjo that he can criticise. SMH

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