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Ogbuefi2020:
Just like GDP of Northern Nigeria yet higher poverty rate

Parisian:
It's like you don't have sense.

I have lived in Dubai and I have visited all the emirates except Rasa Khaimah (don't mind my spelling) and all the emirates are very much considerably developed.

Even Abu Dhabi is much more developed than Dubai I hope you know that.

Al Ain is a beauty to behold, or is it Sharjah that you want to tell me is underdeveloped? Mumu. Ajman sef is trying.

Also, those poor people you see in UAE are NOT emiratis, they are Indians, Pakistanis, Afghans etc who are migrant workers. Receive sense.

Also ,the op is 200% right... UAE, Saudi and Oman may be rich but the global muslim population is poor.

Know this, know peace.

Ogbuefi2020:
Just like GDP of Northern Nigeria yet higher poverty rate

louqas:
As if there are no poor christian countries

As if there are no rich Muslim countries

How can you expect 54 islamic nations to be richer than over 200 other countries

Whats the aim of comparism

Aimless thread

soundOsonic:
The Dubai you na dey talk say them dey rich, go there you will see that their citizens are suffering. The rich people are the monarchs.
It is just a few area in Dubai that is developed and again it is the state of Dubai that is only the reasonable state there.

Terorislam:
But Muslims are very good in teror and making of bombs, in the SW Muslims have start mining skulls and sales human parts

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vedaxcool:
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Osiris12:
Let me park here.
When this gets to the front page, then I’ll lash out to those bandits,terrorist and peadophile

KillingIsFun:
Dr Ibrahim Azim

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Pauldollars:
Because they spend half of their lives praying in the mosque.

igbesachick:
indonesia has higher GDP per capita than iran , Kasakhstan is almost as rich as china , nigeria is richer than India, iraq is as rich as southeast europe, with almost half income as an average chinese. they poor ?

the rest 1 billion are way richer than southeast asia , and light years ahead of india . they are neck and neck with the latino america.

north africa is the travel hotspot for european, arab is oil land

asian muslim are a small version of china(in terms of industry)

middle asian (stans) is hegemony of russia, southeast europe including turkey, is surely not poor

“A WOMAN WHO drives a car will be killed,” says Sheikh Hazim Muhammad al-Manshad. He says it matter-of-factly, without raising his voice. The unwritten rules of his tribe, the al-Ghazi of southern Iraq, are clear. A woman who drives a car might meet a man. The very possibility is “a violation of her honour”. So her male relatives will kill her, with a knife or a bullet, and bury the body in a sand dune.
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The sheikh is a decorous host. He seats his guests on fine carpets, in a hall that offers shade from the desert sun. He bids his son serve them strong, bitter coffee from a shared cup. He wears a covid face-mask.

Yet the code he espouses is brutal. And one aim of that brutality is to enable men to control women’s fertility. A daughter must accept the husband her father picks. If she dallies with another man, her male kin are honour-bound to kill them both.

Women mostly stay indoors. Your correspondent visited three Shia tribes in southern Iraq in June, and wandered through their villages. He did not see a single post-pubescent woman.

Oppressing women is not only bad for women; it hurts men, too. It makes societies poorer and less stable, argue Valerie Hudson of Texas A&M University and Donna Lee Bowen and Perpetua Lynne Nielsen of Brigham Young University.

Some Iraqi cities are quite liberal by Middle Eastern standards, but much of the rural hinterland is patriarchal in the strict sense of the word. The social order is built around male kinship groups. The leaders are all men. At home, women are expected to obey husbands, fathers or brothers. At tribal meetings, they are absent. “I’ll be clear: according to tribal custom, a woman does not have freedom of expression,” says Mr Manshad.

The male kinship group has been the basic unit of many, if not most, societies for much of history. It evolved as a self-defence mechanism. Men who were related to each other were more likely to unite against external enemies.

If they married outside the group, it was the women who moved to join their husbands. (This is called “patrilocal” marriage, and is still common in most of Asia, Africa and the Middle East.) The bloodline was deemed to pass from father to son (this arrangement is called “patrilineal”). Property and leadership roles also passed down the male line. Daughters were valued for their ability to give birth to sons. Strict rules were devised to ensure women’s chastity.

Such rules were designed for a world without modern states to keep order, or modern contraception. In rich, liberal countries, the idea of the male kinship group as the building block of society faded long ago. Elsewhere, it is surprisingly common. As a group that champions an extreme version of it has just seized power in Afghanistan, it is worth looking at how such societies work.

In “The First Political Order: How Sex Shapes Governance and National Security Worldwide”, Ms Hudson, Ms Bowen and Ms Nielsen rank 176 countries on a scale of 0 to 16 for what they call the “patrilineal/fraternal syndrome”. This is a composite of such things as unequal treatment of women in family law and property rights, early marriage for girls, patrilocal marriage, polygamy, bride price, son preference, violence against women and social attitudes towards it (for example, is rape seen as a property crime against men?).

Rich democracies do well; Australia, Sweden and Switzerland all manage the best-possible score of zero (see chart). Iraq scores a woeful 15, level with Nigeria, Yemen and (pre-Taliban) Afghanistan. Only South Sudan does worse. Dismal scores are not limited to poor countries (Saudi Arabia and Qatar do terribly), nor to Muslim ones (India and most of sub-Saharan Africa do badly, too). Overall, the authors estimate that 120 countries are still to some degree swayed by this syndrome.

As a patriarch, Mr Manshad is expected to resolve problems his tribesmen bring to him. Many involve bloodshed. “Yesterday,” he says, he had to sort out a land dispute. Men from another tribe were digging up sand to make cement on a patch of land that both they and Mr Manshad’s tribe claim. Shooting broke out. A man was hit in the thigh. A truce was called to discuss compensation, mediated by a third tribe. In a separate incident five days ago, three men were killed in a quarrel over a truck. We have “many problems like this”, sighs the sheikh.

The Iraqi police are reluctant to intervene in tribal murders. The culprit is probably armed. If he dies resisting arrest, his male relatives will feel a moral duty to kill the officer who fired the shot or, failing that, one of his colleagues. Few cops want to pick such a fight. It is far easier to let the tribes sort out their own disputes.

The upshot is that old codes of honour often trump Iraqi law (and also, whisper it, Islamic scripture, which is usually milder). Cycles of vengeance can spiral out of control. “Innocent bystanders are being killed,” complains Muhammed al-Zadyn, who advises the governor of Basra, a southern city, on tribal affairs. “The last gun battle was the day before yesterday,” he says. The previous month he had helped resolve a different quarrel, which dated back to a murder in 1995 and had involved tit-for-tat killings ever since. Mr Zadyn has two bullet wounds in his head, inflicted after he decried tribal shakedowns of oil firms.

His phone rings; another feud needs mediation. A woman was accused of having sex outside marriage. So far, seven people have been killed over it, and five wounded in the past few days. Because two of the slain were elders, their kin say they must kill ten of the other tribe to make it even. Mr Zadyn has a busy night ahead.

Clan loyalties can cripple the state. When a clan member gets a job in the health ministry, he may feel a stronger duty to hire his unqualified cousins and steer contracts to his kin than to improve the nation’s health. This helps explain why Iraqi ministries are so corrupt.

And when the state is seen as a source of loot, people fight over it. Iraq saw five coups between independence in 1932 and Saddam Hussein’s takeover in 1979; since then it has invaded two neighbours, been invaded by the United States, seen jihadists set up a caliphate, Kurds in effect secede and Shia militias, some backed by Iran, become nearly as powerful as the government. Clearly, not all this can be blamed on patriarchal clans. But it cannot all be blamed on foreigners, either.

Ms Hudson and her co-authors tested the relationship between their patrilineal syndrome and violent political instability. They ran various regressions on their 176 countries, controlling for other things that might foster conflict, such as ethnic and religious strife, colonial history and broad cultural categories such as Muslim, Western and Hindu.

They did not prove that the syndrome caused instability—that would require either longitudinal data that have not yet been collected or natural experiments that are virtually impossible with whole countries. But they found a strong statistical link. The syndrome explained three-quarters of the variation in a country’s score on the Fragile States index compiled by the Fund for Peace, a think-tank in Washington. It was thus a better predictor of violent instability than income, urbanisation or a World Bank measure of good governance.

The authors also found evidence that patriarchy and poverty go hand in hand. The syndrome explained four-fifths of the variation in food security, and four-fifths of the variation in scores on the UN’s Human Development Index, which measures such things as lifespan, health and education. “It seems as if the surest way to curse one’s nation is to subordinate its women,” they conclude.

DubaiLandLord:
The Islamic Country Economy can't be compared to the likes of US or China, but the Islamic countries wey dey stable, their citizens dey enjoy life to the fullest.

More Saudi Arabia citizens live a far better life than more American citizens.

Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, etc if you go som of dz country, you will wish to be one of them.

If not for NATO, Libya was a very very good country to live in.

aribisala0:
You do not sound like you used your time in school profitably

Saudi Arabia has less than 40 million people and you claim more citizens there live a far better life than more American citizens with over 300 million people
The article is talking of ALL Muslim countries . Not a few.

ALL
That includes countries like Nigeria, Bangladesh, Sudan , Pakistan , Afghanistan, Somalia , Sudan

How do Saudi enjoy life to the fullest? What does that mean?

Have you visited Saudi Arabia? What rights do women have, how educated are they ? What do they contribute to humanity
Tell us ONE MADE INE SAUDI product that you have used n your life?

igbesachick:
indonesia has higher GDP per capita than iran , Kasakhstan is almost as rich as china , nigeria is richer than India, iraq is as rich as southeast europe, with almost half income as an average chinese. they poor ?

the world wide muslim have 1.8 billion population. if deducted the african muslim and subcontinent muslim, the rest 1 billion are way richer than southeast asia , and light years ahead of india . they are neck and neck with the latino america.

north africa is the travel hotspot for european, arab is oil land, asian muslim are a small version of china(in terms of industry), middle asian (stans) is hegemony of russia, southeast europe including turkey, is surely not poor.


who are the poor muslim ? those in india , pakistan , bangladesh and subsahara africa

motayoayinde:
HATE-FUELLED SHAM STATS.

THIS ONE GAVE HIMSELF AWAY WHERE HE SAID JUST 1% OF ARABS HAVE PERSONAL COMPUTERS AND EVEN HALF OF THAT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS!

WORLD ARAB POPULATION IS 423 M

1% OF THAT IS 4.2M, HALF OF THAT IS 2.1M.

SAUDI ALONE IS OVER 40 M PEOPLE.

THE INTERNET PENETRATION OF THAT COUNTRY OVER 70%

THAT OF THE UAE ID OVER 90%

OWNERSHIP OF PC IN BOTH COUNTRIES IS ALMOST A 100%.

THE COMBINED INTERNET ACCESS IN THE ENTIRE ARAB WORLD IS MORE THAN 60% AND IT'S INCREASING THROUGH SMART PHONES.
NOTE:THIS ARE THE MOST CONSERVATIVE FIGURES.

INTERNET ACCESS IN GULF ARAB COUNTRIES ACCORDING TO SOME STATS IS A 100%.

THE CLAIM THAT JUST 5% OF ARAB WOMEN IS LITERATE MUST BE FROM THE CEESSPIT IN THE OP'S BACKYARD.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN MORE LITERATE THAN THE WEST FOR CENTURIES AND TILL THIS MOMENT.

EXCEPT YOU'RE SAYING LITERACY IN ARABIC ISN'T LITERACY.

OBALOLA55:
BECAUSE GOOD MUSLIM COUNTRIES DON’T ACCEPT RIBA (INTEREST) IN BUYING AND SELLING OF THEIR GOODS.

HAVE YOU WONDERED WHY AN HAUSA BUSINESS MAN IS MORE SINCERE IN HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS THAN OUR FELLOW SOUTHERNERS.

VERDICT: HOLY BIBLE AND QURAN ARE AGAINST RIBA (INTEREST)


FINALLY OLE NI EVERYBODY

tamdun:
Are those cannibals from south east not Christian?
Did Bible told them to consume human flesh?

DubaiLandLord:
Gibberish

AllahIsGarbage:
What kind of moronic statement us this? Do you have any proof that abókis are more honest? And how is poverty tied to honesty? Christians are harder workers and take education more seriously than Muslims. There's no magic behind their success.

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Gerrard59:
Complete post: https://www.economist.com/international/2021/09/11/societies-that-treat-women-badly-are-poorer-and-less-stable

Nigeria's inclusion and position are because of the Muslim majority north. I have stated it countless times, exclude the Islamic part of Northern Nigeria and the country will see a drastic reduction of poverty and we might be classified as a middle-income country.

OBALOLA55:
BECAUSE GOOD MUSLIM COUNTRIES DON’T ACCEPT RIBA (INTEREST) IN BUYING AND SELLING OF THEIR GOODS.

HAVE YOU WONDERED WHY AN HAUSA BUSINESS MAN IS MORE SINCERE IN HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS THAN OUR FELLOW SOUTHERNERS.

VERDICT: HOLY BIBLE AND QURAN ARE AGAINST RIBA (INTEREST)

FINALLY OLE NI EVERYBODY