iameze:
Compliment of the season everyone,
Am about to do my pop ceiling for a 4bedroom bungalow.

Total of 126sqm.

i was giving 693,000naira with material.

And(Without material)

*126sqm.*

60 bags of plaster
60kg filler
20 packs of tornado nails (size 2 1/2’)
1/2 bundle of binding wire
Casting chemical
Range and casting boards.
Scaffolds
Workmanship = #126,000.

Please help o, money no easy o. So i can maximize what i ve

I can do less is the location is within southwest

bolu1986:


I can do less is the location is within southwest

Yes its in the south west, ijebu ode precisely.

Send me your quotation

With & without material

QSFemi:
We're already in public, so transparency matters.

Sure it does. It help put everything in true perspective.


______
For those who felt, I’ve not done well enough to allow things to come to the open forum. May I ask “How else would we have been able to come up with more than 4 different reviews if I’ve not been having a close-door discussion with the client and his representatives?”

I’ll upload all the reports, agreements and other correspondences on slideshare for those who want to see the true picture of things.

Dubemcapital1:






Honestly, I love your product, that what we used in one of our Enugu projects

I can attest to this. I’m so loving the paint everyday.

I also did Cameo on my fence.
As a matter of fact, the same colour was just endorsed by lots of people in our ongoing Oshodi church project.

Let me remind you of what I can do for you

iameze:


Yes its in the south west, ijebu ode precisely.

Send me your quotation on 08131000578.

With & without material

you can remove your number cause of scammers o

MMotimo:
If somehow is the same as the person on this Nland scammers ‘ list with former moniker freshcvvs, then IMO, there’s really nothing more to discuss. There is more than one reference on this site of conduct that is unbecoming. I’m about people that work for their money. If somehow is a scammer, then he deserves what he got. God is not mocked, we reap what we sow!


https://www.nairaland.com/3430558/scam-alert-dont-victim-updates/95#86542980

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2296#55289347

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2300#55295451

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2303#55307543

In my line of business, you most times end up being a victim of fraud either by people selling stolen funds to you unknown to you, using your account details to perpetuate fraud or impersonating you.

You can contact any of the fellow victims in what you dug out to find out how the issues got resolved.

I obviously didn't get to know on time until months later. (More to do with being a novice in that line of business).

But as a responsible person I strive to be, and to protect my name, i reached out to all of them just to clear my name since my name was the only traceable contact left online by the perpetuators.

If you understand how being a digital currency merchant work, then you'd know why I became a target then.

n3xt:


Nothing was ever left undone. The project was still ongoing when you decided to terminate the contract and I’ve never asked you for additional sum on any of the items that we’ve agreed on.
So I don’t want you to assume my position.

I already made contact with a well known roofer here several months (July 2021) before the termination. He has sent in his installer for measurement ( I paid for his logistics), submitted his quote and was waiting for the date we are going to do the installation. He didn’t bill me up to N1m neither did he change his price months after.

I will wait for QSFemi to post the breakdown of how he arrived at his figures so that everyone can see if it was fair or not.

MMotimo:
If somehow is the same as the person on this Nland scammers ‘ list with former moniker freshcvvs, then IMO, there’s really nothing more to discuss. There is more than one reference on this site of conduct that is unbecoming. I’m about people that work for their money. If somehow is a scammer, then he deserves what he got. God is not mocked, we reap what we sow!


https://www.nairaland.com/3430558/scam-alert-dont-victim-updates/95#86542980

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2296#55289347

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2300#55295451

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2303#55307543

micgray100:
At last we have a figured amount to this contractual argument..

The client "Somehow" requesting 2 Million Naira refund...

The Contractor "N3xt" willing to refund 1Million 70k Naira...

QS Femi... Your job left is to be more specific on the job description and amount the contractor didn't agree to... so he can be compelled to pay or not base on the evidences of picture or video...

This case is simple...

I'm requesting that from the actual amount valued by the QS based on what wasn't done and how much it cost to have them done. If invoices are needed to be posted, I'd post them.

n3xt:


I can attest to this. I’m so loving the paint everyday.

I also did Cameo on my fence.
As a matter of fact, the same colour was just endorsed by lots of people in our ongoing Oshodi church project.

Nice one, honestly

This issue is a very small issue. Thank God there is physical house on ground.
Everybody should count their losses, and move on.

n3xt:


Nothing was ever left undone. The project was still ongoing when you decided to terminate the contract and I’ve never asked you for additional sum on any of the items that we’ve agreed on.
So I don’t want you to assume my position.

I already made contact with a well known roofer here several months (July 2021) before the termination. He has sent in his installer for measurement ( I paid for his logistics), submitted his quote and was waiting for the date we are going to do the installation. He didn’t bill me up to N1m neither did he change his price months after.

This is exactly why we are here today. How can you claim project was still ongoing before I terminated the contract that already expired by 4 months?

Do you understand what contract means?
Do you know what you lose in value and money when you don't follow deadline?

So, which project was ongoing when as at September 25th, the roof for both houses, some blockwork, most part of the fins and slabs were still undone and you falling to commit to giving a time line for completion?

A roof meant to have been covered in May according to the signed contract?

I gave you 4 months extra to complete the job that was to take 3 months, yet you didn't.

I even assisted you with money to aide what broke on site.

I gave you enough room to succeed and chose not to come here to drag you until you came here to lie about the status of work.

I wouldn't want to resume typing again since we have gone past this stage before.

My refund is what I care about now.

Let me set this straight, @somehow is in this mess because he refused to listen, learn from other people mistake and he trying to show he is smart and wise.

Earlier this year @Mmito brought the issue of next and it took almost 25 pages, I was among those asking her to let it slide that who had enough and we want to talk about other issues, somehow saw them and he did not learn.

multikolour:
Let me set this straight, @somehow is in this mess because he refused to listen, learn from other people mistake and he trying to show he is smart and wise.

Earlier this year @Mmito brought the issue of next and it took almost 25 pages, I was among those asking her to let it slide that who had enough and we want to talk about other issues, somehow saw them and he did not learn.

We have passed the "you see" stage sir. At least, the current development will only attest to the fact that things haven't changed with him 6 years after.

somehow:


I'm requesting that from the actual amount valued by the QS based on what wasn't done and how much it cost to have them done. If invoices are needed to be posted, I'd post them.

As I’ve shared with you and the QS sir, the building is yours and you’re free to spend whatever sum you like to get the job done. It’s not an issue for me.

I remembered paying the a QS 200k to prepare me a BOQ that was eventually thrown out for a bid that I ended up securing with my non-professional Bill of Quantities. I own the money and chose what to do with it.
What I won’t do is to pass the cost of the BOQ to my client because he didn’t ask me to spend such money.

That’s why I won’t be in such a hurry to fire a contractor in an ongoing project.
If eventually that route will be followed, I’ll ensure we reconcile all accounts before doing anything on the project to prevent conflicts and disagreements.

Dubemcapital1:






Honestly, I love your product, that what we used in one of our Enugu projects

Thank you very much for choosing value paints
#Get value for your money

bolu1986:
you can remove your number cause of scammers o

ok thanks, kindly delete my quote in yours(my number still shows there)

n3xt:


As I’ve shared with you and the QS sir, the building is yours and you’re free to spend whatever sum you like to get the job done. It’s not an issue for me.

I remembered paying the a QS 200k to prepare me a BOQ that was eventually thrown out for a bid that I ended up securing with my non-professional Bill of Quantities. I own the money and chose what to do with it.
What I won’t do is to pass the cost of the BOQ to my client because he didn’t ask me to spend such money.

That’s why I won’t be in such a hurry to fire a contractor in an ongoing project.
If eventually that route will be followed, I’ll ensure we reconcile all accounts before doing anything on the project to prevent conflicts and disagreements.

Did you read what you wrote?

Can you read the last part of the contract you prepared?

Let me post it here so that you can interpret it to the house

So May to September is in a hurry?
Everyone can see what is coming out from his mouth.

Let him post the picture of the building as at May and then the pictures as at September, let the house see what he actually did for 4 months when no issues for that long delay came up.

You were asked to come to site for handover and stock taking, you refused, nor sent anyone, yet you have the audacity to type this?

You have my figures already and have my account number with the time I gave you for a refund (even though its supposed to be instant since you're with my money).

Till then, I will stop replying you here.

micgray100:


Brabus... Be rest assured there are people here that have gone through this before here...Hyprocrisy is the last thing in mind of some of us here..... At least you are aware of my Borehole Saga...

Come with evidences... and I am sure elders on the forum will justify the refunded amount in contention...

why don’t you advice your friend to turn a new leave at least?

somehow:


This is exactly why we are here today. How can you claim project was still ongoing before I terminated the contract that already expired by 4 months?

Do you understand what contract means?
Do you know what you lose in value and money when you don't follow deadline?

So, which project was ongoing when as at September 25th, the roof for both houses, some blockwork, most part of the fins and slabs were still undone and you falling to commit to giving a time line for completion?

A roof meant to have been covered in May according to the signed contract?

I gave you 4 months extra to complete the job that was to take 3 months, yet you didn't.

I even assisted you with money to aide what broke on site.

I gave you enough room to succeed and chose not to come here to drag you until you came here to lie about the status of work.

I wouldn't want to resume typing again since we have gone past this stage before.

My refund is what I care about now.

@Somehow and N3xt both of you should find a level ground to resolve this matter once and for all. Somehow have invited his own QS to value the workdone on site and he has submitted his report based on what he met and workdone so far. I believe the QS was fully involved during the tendering stage and have the full knowledge of the scope awarded to N3xt.

@N3xt you promised to give us your own QS report based on the value of workdone too. I believe that the two QS used the same contract boq for this exercise. Pls let's have the two valuations and compare apple for apple, then we will get to the root of this
matter. Pls N3xt let's have your QS valuation.

somehow:


This is exactly why we are here today. How can you claim project was still ongoing before I terminated the contract that already expired by 4 months?

Do you understand what contract means?
Do you know what you lose in value and money when you don't follow deadline?

So, which project was ongoing when as at September 25th, the roof for both houses, some blockwork, most part of the fins and slabs were still undone and you falling to commit to giving a time line for completion?

A roof meant to have been covered in May according to the signed contract?

I’m quite sure you don’t understand what is called dependencies in a project sir and you chose to deliberately ignore.

By the way, here’s our discussion in September about what has to be done prior to roofing and not after roofing.

Pls kindly help me understand how you want to see a roof installed according to the contract in May when:

>> a change order request was made to install steel truss instead of using wood which was what we agreed to do in the contract.

>> we spent over a month waiting for the roof steel installer to come and do the installation of the roof.
Regardless of your claims, you were reliably informed and the contract spelt out what excusable delays covers. The fabrication of the trusses were long completed even as at end of April.

>> the plastering of the parapet walls wasn’t done until 2 months after we stopped work on the structure in May. Am I the one stalling that? Or was it part of my contract?

>> the contract to install Atrium windows wasn’t awarded until sometimes in September. You specifically requested we shouldn’t install the roof before your window is done.

I gave you 4 months extra to complete the job that was to take 3 months, yet you didn't.

We spent the extra four months waiting on you to complete the dependencies. We did no major work on the structure between those times. The records are there to verify.

I even assisted you with money to aide what broke on site.

Thank you and I refunded the money back to you when you asked for it. I remember it was done out of reluctance when I told you the glass won’t have broken if we haven’t brought it to site. I can imagine what will have happened if we put roofing sheets on site while waiting for all the dependencies to get completed.

I gave you enough room to succeed and chose not to come here to drag you until you came here to lie about the status of work.

How was it a lie? All evidence shows that I was paying your supervisor who was on site to manage the construction when all we do is “He told me to tell you”
To prevent miscommunication, I decided to fully engage him to handle the security house.

Even during the reviews, I asked that you provide evidence that you paid for all the materials used prior to the termination, I didn’t get a single reply. So where’s the lie about the status of work coming from?

I wouldn't want to resume typing again since we have gone past this stage before.

My refund is what I care about now.

Justice and fairness is what I care about now.

BrickDevo:

Baba send my own nah

lol

topsy23:


@Somehow and N3xt both of you should find a level ground to resolve this matter once and for all. Somehow have invited his own QS to value the workdone on site and he has submitted his report based on what he met and workdone so far. I believe the QS was fully involved during the tendering stage and have the full knowledge of the scope awarded to N3xt.

@N3xt you promised to give us your own QS report based on the value of workdone too. I believe that the two QS used the same contract boq for this exercise. Pls let's have the two valuations and compare apple for apple, then we will get to the root of this
matter. Pls N3xt let's have your QS valuation.

This I have asked for since September 25th but here we are still running in circles because he failed to show up to handover and take stock nor sent his representative to do this on his behalf.

It points to one thing, he already planned everything from the start thinking by withholding my money with him, the project becomes stuck and then he can feel good.

Unfortunately for him, this has further added to his negative reputation which was one of the things I hoped my project would have helped clean a bit.

Everyone knows my stand now and what my competent QS came up with. So we can now see who has been dragging just as he dragged the project by 4 months.

topsy23:


@Somehow and N3xt both of you should find a level ground to resolve this matter once and for all. Somehow have invited his own QS to value the workdone on site and he has submitted his report based on what he met and workdone so far. I believe the QS was fully involved during the tendering stage and have the full knowledge of the scope awarded to N3xt.

@N3xt you promised to give us your own QS report based on the value of workdone too. I believe that the two QS used the same contract boq for this exercise. Pls let's have the two valuations and compare apple for apple, then we will get to the root of this
matter. Pls N3xt let's have your QS valuation.

Here’s my position and message to the client when I first saw the valuation report:

I’ve checked the QS doc. It actually undervalued the project instead of carrying out an independent/unbias valuation of the work done. It is expected.
You don’t play an umpire and skipper in your own game.

When faced with situation like this, I hire professional valuers with no interest in the project/property to carry out the job for *Accuracy.*

He is more likely to provide an unbiased assessment of the building. Individuals who are serving interest of any of the parties to a contract may decide to mark down the actual cost to so they can come up with ambiguous figures which is the case here.
A good example is the valuation of the fence. A 84m fence with over 20 reinforced concrete columns, 600mm reinforced concrete raft, and sandcrete block was valued at N770,000 while a 10sqm security house was valued at N630,000

I’ll need the QS to provide detailed breakdown of how he came about that figure. What went into cement, sand, granite, Formwork, reinforcement, labour, sandcrete block for the fence work alone.

I’ll work on the doc later this evening and send an email concerning areas of concern that needs further clarification.

Thanks for your understanding.

Best regards.

Certain things defy logic. I know we might have a similar issue if I chose to go same route, hence the reason I worked with the contract bill of quantities. I ticked off what was done and sum up the cost of what wasn’t done.

Pretty simple.

somehow:


This I have asked for since September 25th but here we are still running in circles because he failed to show up to handover and take stock nor sent his representative to do this on his behalf.

It points to one thing, he already planned everything from the start thinking by withholding my money with him, the project becomes stuck and then he can feel good.

Unfortunately for him, this has further added to his negative reputation which was one of the things I hoped my project would have helped clean a bit.

Everyone knows my stand now and what my competent QS came up with. So we can now see who has been dragging just as he dragged the project by 4 months.

Until I’m able to get answer to the question below, I won’t take any of the report serious. It shows the figures were just concorted.

I know this was cleverly dodged in other submissions.

A good example is the valuation of the fence. A 84m fence with over 20 reinforced concrete columns, 600mm reinforced concrete raft, and sandcrete block was valued at N770,000 while a 10sqm security house was valued at N630,000

I’ll need the QS to provide detailed breakdown of how he came about that figure. What went into cement, sand, granite, Formwork, reinforcement, labour, sandcrete block for the fence work alone.

@somehow @next

Is it possible to bring in an independent QS?

twinskenny:
@somehow @next

Is it possible to bring in an independent QS?

Anything that gets me what he made me spend to complete his job.

I have given him my official report based on what a qualified QS (same one that picked him) submitted, so the onus lie on him to do likewise.

This would have been solved earlier on if he submitted his handover note/valuation when he was asked.

If he had sent his own QS then, both QS would have solved the whole thing as professionals but he never did because he was planning not to pay me as at when due going by how he kept coming up with objections without providing his for months.

There are alot of things I had to redo which weren't even captured by the valuation and you can bear witness to this having been to site.

MMotimo:
If somehow is the same as the person on this Nland scammers ‘ list with former moniker freshcvvs, then IMO, there’s really nothing more to discuss. There is more than one reference on this site of conduct that is unbecoming. I’m about people that work for their money. If somehow is a scammer, then he deserves what he got. God is not mocked, we reap what we sow!


https://www.nairaland.com/3430558/scam-alert-dont-victim-updates/95#86542980

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2296#55289347

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2300#55295451

https://www.nairaland.com/3190496/currency-e-currency-market-deals/2303#55307543

why trying to distract everyone from the issue on ground, the issue was resolved and the victim confirmed the resolution him/herself

somehow:


In my line of business, you most times end up being a victim of fraud either by people selling stolen funds to you unknown to you, using your account details to perpetuate fraud or impersonating you.

You can contact any of the fellow victims in what you dug out to find out how the issues got resolved.

I obviously didn't get to know on time until months later. (More to do with being a novice in that line of business).

But as a responsible person I strive to be, and to protect my name, i reached out to all of them just to clear my name since my name was the only traceable contact left online by the perpetuators.

If you understand how being a digital currency merchant work, then you'd know why I became a target then.

no need giving in to his destractions sir, i already posted the screenshot of the issue already been settled. lets settle this brabus issue because it pains me seeing a client go through this. its not fair at all and this is not even the first nor the 5th

GOD MORNING
Great people of nairaland and this wonderful platform
Please I really want to ask questions ó

1• Do you have issues with my services or products?

2• Tell me why are you people,that am hoping on as my backbone not supporting me by buying from me ?

3• As anybody in this platform ever report me of delaying their supplying before ?

Édakú.
Make una give me work

GET VALUE FOR YOUR MONEY…..