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Olayetan:
Haaaa

AmazonTopaz:
I fear that this virus could mutate and become more deadly.

Try to get vaccinated and boosted if need be

JustforMen:
I have read this study and my view is that it is arrant nonsense and counter intuitive to the concept of vaccination and immunity.
The general consensus in the scientific community is that when one is exposed to a virus, germ etc, and recovers, the human body produces some form of natural immunity at varying degrees to fight future occurrences of the same pathogen.
Immunity is your body’s ability to protect you from getting sick when you are exposed to an infectious agent (“germ”) such as a bacterium, virus, parasite or fungus.

Immunity is a complex process that involves a lot of moving parts. Your body produces a variety of different cells that fight invading germs. Some of these release special proteins called antibodies into your blood stream. These antibody producing cells can “remember” a particular germ so they can detect its presence if it returns and produce antibodies to stop it.
I know that this is not always applicable at the same level for all diseases.
To my untrained understanding, this is the concept of vaccination and anti-serum.
On this Corona issue, the vaccination apostles seem to cleverly avoid mentioning the concept of natural immunity completely.
IT IS UNCOMFORTABLY SUSPICIOUS!
The Amish community in the US used the concept of natural immunity to become the first and only group to achieve HERD IMMUNITY in the world. The are exempted from the vaccination drive.
Now when you tell me that your study shows that people who have recovered from the virus are more likely to die, IT IS COUNTER INTUITIVE to scientific precedence and logic.
I am afraid these suspicious pronouncements and forceful vaccination drives appear to be suspicious.
You ask yourself, what is the agenda here?
I am an open objective mind on most issues so I welcome anybody who is more informed on this issue to clarify my doubts.
Because the whole thing is looking more suspicious by the day and it is driving more people to scepticism which my jeopardize the goal of ridding the world of the virus.
If you add the fact of the controversy around the origin of the virus and the fact that the united States government is providing the funding to the Wuhan Lab then things begin to stink even to an objective mind.
Mek una help me understand this matter, Biko.

lalasticlala:
https://oneresearch.org/2021/12/29/recovered-patients-of-severe-covid-19-infection-233-more-likely-than-negative-counterparts-to-die-within-year/

backbencher:
Having seen many cases in my line of work, including one just 2 days ago, covid exists, man

You can live in denial, or live in conspiracy, it exists, and it is real.

almsofgold:
Wahala for who take vaccination. RIP in advance

efficiencie:
Why is the research silent about the cause of death of the 80% of the deaths? If the effects of COVID extend beyond recovery then why are fewer deaths due to respiratory complications? Why is the study silent on how they distinguished between mild and severe COVID?

More questions, not necessarily related to the results of the study. Why is the vaccine always pushed as a silver bullet against COVID? Why hasn't promising drugs that could prevent and treat COVID been researched in clinical trials? Why haven't vaccine related deaths been studied despite the availability of data?

COVID news are more political than scientific and that is why I remain sceptical of the "opinions" of so called "experts" on this matter.

lexy2014:
Why are afraid of it's mutation when u are advising people to get vaccinated?

Mikel Arteta, coach of arsenal was Covid 19 positive in March 2020. Having taken all the jabs and boosters, he just got infected again just this week.

Cyril Ramaphosa, president of south Africa also got infected after being "fully vaccinated".
So what then is the essence of the vaccination if the vaccinated are getting infected?

Godszilla:
Well said,most of the so called scientific minds around this covid n "vaccine" are totally off and people still believe them. If you are infected and recover that automatically means you have acquired the immunity unless they have changed that definition too. The tin with the "vaccine" is it doesn't contain the pathogen so the "vaccine" can neva give you immunity to the virus but protection. Matter of fact those that have and recovered av immunity than those with the vaccines alone.
Anyway there are studies saying we may need 2 to 3 shots yearly - they are slowly laying ground work on this.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/dec/30/up-to-three-covid-jabs-a-year-could-be-needed-for-protection-data-suggests
The question I keep asking all those for the "vaccine" is this how humans will now be living our lives?is this perfectly OK now like junkies?for a disease that's on record 99.8% recoverable if you healthy.is this how polio,measles and other vaccine we took how they work and administered.
Something is not right and people still think it's ok

bayonet:
It is a VIRUS, not a bacteria nor fungi, Viruses are so weird you will think they have brains, when you attack a virus, it will learn from it will learn and build and strengthen it's own weakness and keep fighting and multiplying at a geometric progression.

Was Arteta Vaccinated at any point? I do not think so because he never mentioned if he was vaccinated or not.

Being vaccinated doesn't mean you should go around licking hand rails and sucking out saliva out of people's mouth. The vaccine gives you a good fighting chance against the virus, that's the whole point of all vaccines, vacvines are not for cures, they are for prevention from severe symptoms.

bayonet:
Funny how people want to use "grace of God" to fight a virus when God has already given some people the Knowlege and Wisdom to make a vaccine that can go round to reach both believers and non-believers.

Godszilla:
This is a lie and either you know this or you are hiding it. This thing will neva qualify as a vaccine under the polio and other we know of. The definition of vaccine was changed last September for this tin to fit as vaccine https://www.citizensjournal.us/the-cdc-suddenly-changes-the-definition-of-vaccine-and-vaccination/
https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/13341/20210921/cdc-and-who-redefine-vaccine-and-herd-immunity-to-manipulate-people-into-getting-the-jabs.htm

Note vaccine where meant to confer immunity but it's changed to protection now cos this tin is not

bayonet:
It is a VIRUS, not a bacteria nor fungi, Viruses are so weird you will think they have brains, when you attack a virus, it will learn from it will learn and build and strengthen it's own weakness and keep fighting and multiplying at a geometric progression.

Was Arteta Vaccinated at any point? I do not think so because he never mentioned if he was vaccinated or not.

Being vaccinated doesn't mean you should go around licking hand rails and sucking out saliva out of people's mouth. The vaccine gives you a good fighting chance against the virus, that's the whole point of all vaccines, vacvines are not for cures, they are for prevention from severe symptoms.

ade80:
Look online for the documentary VAXXED it is an old documentary.

bayonet:
I hope you know policies are meant to be changed, just like paliarments in every country change their laws year in year out.

Going by what you are saying, they should have allowed the whole world to keep dying rather than approve a vaccine under an emergency policy to accommodate it.

Do you also understand that science has leapt a long distance forward since polio days?

You want to site a link you are siting Christianity dailies for me, now I know where your challenge lies.

bayonet:
Quote a proper study/research not a story telling documentary.

ade80:
So what about the millions that recovered without taking the vaccines
Doctors are raising alarm that the covid vaccines are attacking the receptors in the body that protect against cancer.
Why is public debate about other treatments censored on all platforms
If the vaccines boost the immune system, why not encourage other natural things that also boost immunity.
People are complaining of increase in stillbirths, miscarriages and babies born with birth defects after covid vaccination
These all need to be answered truthfully.

ade80:
Have you seen it? It is research

In the past children were sprayed with ddt it was correct science then.
How about the thalidomide scandal, hundreds of children were born with birth defects. Science was wrong again.

bayonet:
I hope you know policies are meant to be changed, just like paliarments in every country change their laws year in year out.

Going by what you are saying, they should have allowed the whole world to keep dying rather than approve a vaccine under an emergency policy to accommodate it.

Do you also understand that science has leapt a long distance forward since polio days?

You want to site a link you are siting Christianity dailies for me, now I know where your challenge lies.

Godszilla:
Sorry I didn't want to reply your comment but I just have to correct these impression that christians are not critical thinkers. The whole western society was found on Christianity,so what has changed?oh it has served its purpose so let discard and move on to something beta.besides how did u com to that conclusion that I am one(nothing wrong with been one anyway).why do u confer higher intelligence to yourself than a Christian?

KingAzubuike:
Una don come again. Despite the vaccine, despite the "booster".

Na that booster just weak me pass. Despite taking two jabs of morderna/astrazenica una come months later say there's another jab called booster lol.. very soon they go say another dey called super duper booster.

Abi na how a so-called variant una call omicron just came out of thin air we wan talk.?

sometimes I really don't blame those who call this thing a scam. There are so many questions marks.

bayonet:
It is a VIRUS, not a bacteria nor fungi, Viruses are so weird you will think they have brains, when you attack a virus, it will learn from it will learn and build and strengthen it's own weakness and keep fighting and multiplying at a geometric progression.

Was Arteta Vaccinated at any point? I do not think so because he never mentioned if he was vaccinated or not.

Being vaccinated doesn't mean you should go around licking hand rails and sucking out saliva out of people's mouth. The vaccine gives you a good fighting chance against the virus, that's the whole point of all vaccines, vacvines are not for cures, they are for prevention from severe symptoms.