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Barryseal:
Incase anyone is still doubt how poor the officiating was today, Arsenal ONLY committed 11 fouls during the game and had 5 yellows and red. City 13 fouls 2 yellows in added time one for taking off shirt and one kicking the ball away. No yellow cards for their fouls.This can’t be right! If city and Guardiola had any honors, they will elect to replay this game.

CITY has always been like that right from the days of kompany and david silver. they just know how play dirty and get away with it

kodded:
arteta has learnt his lesson I think.

The Liverpool game will indicate if he has learnt or not

I pray he has!
Even the Liverpool first leg, you said he won't be involved right?

Jodera:
I pray he has!
Even the Liverpool first leg, you said he won't be involved right?

yeah......the theory continues


Let's hope that arteta learns from this match and hopefully this will be a start of something great from this youthful arsenal side

special shout-out to this Japanese hero

He is the reason why man city left wing went AWOL today

Anyone can sense your ego from your post. you seem to care more about coming out right than making a clear informative debate and thats your problem. the fact that he said he will HELP doesn't mean the game plan was his, arteta said his football vision and idealogy is same with his 2nd rightman, which means there would be lil or nothing to even tell them from home cus they would already be implimenting it by then.and moreover i have seen him talk to arteta through a lot of games. i'm even tired of having this go with you. happy new year to you bro.
shalom

BlueRayDick:
U people and this ant-Arteta agenda no go ever rest ? Even when we dey do well ?

Arteta was obviously coaching remotely today by passing instructions to the one of his assistants on earbuds ( the Custer guy). That guy u see standing on the touchline only passed the instructions of Arteta to the players , not like he was using his own playbook or something . Arsenal playing well today had nothing to do with Arteta not being live on the touchline .

When we were pushing attack scoring 5-0’s , trashing Spurs in the derby , etc was it not the same Arteta that was Arsenal’s coach ?

There’s nothing wrong in blaming a coach when he makes tactical errors or loses matches he ought to win, but still trying to find a way to malign him when he’s getting it right just doesn’t sit well with me at all.

Blueray, unless you want to refute my evident claim, there's no need for this.

Even if its not Arteta,even if na VAR room Arteta dey coach from or VIP room, there is always going to be a big difference, evidently. That is exactly what happened today. If you misconstrue this to mean i hate the Manager, OYO o.


This team felt absolutely Different from the time he was on the touchline no doubt.

Spy360:
The assistant coach was barking from the touchline too. It's normal. Just that they shouldn't overdo it.

I saw all that and the earbud thing. It still doesn't change what the physical presence of someone you fear or revere can do.

Jodera:
Lol.. My man say na 10vs 12

If it was before, this match would have ended 4-1. Infact 5-1 as the ref was against us.
Man was a disappointment. I really loved the boys mentality

The referee was the spoiler! Very incompetent and obviously biased!

Jodera:
Lol.. Pep was confused, he didn't know what to do than just hope his players improve the passes right. I mean man city at a certain time was budeying the ball and pep just sat there motionless. Lol
He even put gundo after the red card in order to see out a win

I also hate that constant barking from Arteta especially in big games. One or two talk is fine, then allow them do their things. I loved as the assistant coach did. Shout once in a while but let it don't be constant.

Finally someone that see reason with me.


Beats me that an Arsenal fan didn't notice the big difference, and is even attributing it to Tactics.


I didn't even know the same talk was holding water on Twitter as well. Something that's obvious to see that there's a big difference as he wasn't on the touchline to bark.


As for Pep, lets settle with the fact that he did the Overthinking as usual. That no doubt happened.


I wish we are much more clinical in big games like this. Its going to be the biggest threat once we resume UCL football.


Who else noticed White was below par after Gabby went off? Tomiyasu na Rock.

daveP:
Blueray, unless you want to refute my evident claim, there's no need for this.

Even if its not Arteta,even if na VAR room Arteta dey coach from or VIP room, there is always going to be a big difference, evidently. That is exactly what happened today. If you misconstrue this to mean i hate the Manager, OYO o.


This team felt absolutely Different from the time he was on the touchline no doubt.

There’s nothing to refute in ur claim Na..... ur claim is just an assumption that is not based on any fact.

U alluding the fact that Arteta was not on the touchline to bark instructions to the players(which is part of what he’s paid to do ) to the reason we played well today , but I pointed it out to u that Arteta actually was working remotely by passing those same instructions to his assistants . I recall somebody already pointed it out that the assistant guy also barked those same instructions on the touchline; at least I saw him do that a few times today .

And no I’m not misconstruing this to mean u hate the manager , I just feel trying so much to malign the manager even when he’s done no wrong is just an agenda and nothing else .

Roland17:
Sango what are you waiting for? Have your way with Elegbon Agba this new year!

Ọlọpa eqo n tepe ... leave uncle sango in peace before he finish what he started with ya useless team today ... o tun ti Zeh

fredoooooo:
Ọlọpa eqo n tepe ... leave uncle sango in peace before he finish what he started with ya useless team today ... o tun ti Zeh

You better pray say una win tomorrow, if not, I go finish you

kayusely70:
The referee was the spoiler! Very incompetent and obviously biased!

Very very biased. Just killed the game for arsenal.

Roland17:


You better pray say una win tomorrow, if not, I go finish you

God no be humanbeing

Roland17 , my homeboy turn pastor Chic2pimp, my own mukenke mukina2 ... Happy New year

fredoooooo:
God no be humanbeing

Roland17 , my homeboy turn pastor Chic2pimp, my own mukenke mukina2 ... Happy New year

Happy new year Egbon and I wish you and your family (except Chelsea of course) a prosperous year ahead.

Abeg stop to dey bully your children, allow dem express their undying love for Arsenal. Suppressing their natural desire for Arsenal by forcing Chelsea jersey on dem na bullying.

Roland17:
Happy new year Egbon and I wish you and your family (except Chelsea of course) a prosperous year ahead.

Abeg stop to dey bully your children, allow dem express their undying love for Arsenal. Suppressing their natural desire for Arsenal by forcing Chelsea jersey on dem na bullying.

They hate red and toy guns

Spy360:
I am hearing Liverpool wants to sign Saka.





They had better signed all of us join.

BlueRayDick:
There’s nothing to refute in ur claim Na..... ur claim is just an assumption that is not based on any fact.

U alluding the fact that Arteta was not on the touchline to bark instructions to the players(which is part of what he’s paid to do ) to the reason we played well today , but I pointed it out to u that Arteta actually was working remotely by passing those same instructions to his assistants . I recall somebody already pointed it out that the assistant guy also barked those same instructions on the touchline; at least I saw him do that a few times today .

And no I’m not misconstruing this to mean u hate the manager , I just feel trying so much to malign the manager even when he’s done no wrong is just an agenda and nothing else .

This is no agenda, at least I try as much not to be agenda-driven when making my point or observation.

Watching Liverpool match, in a certain situation I saw Arteta barking and bellowing on players to go back when Liverpool wanted to attack. Even when arsenal players went back, he still gesticulated for them to even go further back which made our defence line so deep. We played like cowards which made transitioning in our attack harder. There was a player (I think lokonga, not sure sha) who made a sullen face wen Arteta made that but he just have to do the needful. Same thing happened against man city (first leg).

Now look at this game and this high position martinelli and saka kept when we are attacking and compare with Liverpool's game or Man u game. Our players felt free, they knew their work since they've practiced it all week and they executed it without the constant gesticulation and barking. This constant barking will limit them cos they'll feel remote controlled instead of actually playing their game.

Before the game myself, most.ob, dave.P and Sod(I think) postulated that we'll see more free game since Arteta isn't their and arsenal shocked us by even exceeding our expectations. Now let's wait and see if we'll see such freedom when playing Liverpool (2nd leg) with Arteta at the touchline.

Hopefully God keeps us alive by then.

Barryseal:
Sure never pull a shirt of an opponent in trying to stop his progress in the air or through on goal. Silva in this case was on his way down. The shirt pull didn't impeed his progress. If anything I think Xhaka was trolling him not to go down by holding his shirt.

Rodri didn't even get a foul called against him when he clattered dangerously into Martinelli. The VAR didn't call the ref to re-watch the Odegard penalty shout. I think the VAR official was assisting as the linesman when this happened I don't know but this game was just a mess.

Your last word summed it up.

Jodera:
This is no agenda, at least I try as much not to be agenda-driven when making my point or observation.

Watching Liverpool match, in a certain situation I saw Arteta barking and bellowing on players to go back when Liverpool wanted to attack. Even when arsenal players went back, he still gesticulated for them to even go further back which made our defence line so deep. We played like cowards which made transitioning in our attack harder. There was a player (I think lokonga, not sure sha) who made a sullen face wen Arteta made that but he just have to do the needful. Same thing happened against man city (first leg).

Now look at this game and this high position martinelli and saka kept when we are attacking and compare with Liverpool's game or Man u game. Our players felt free, they knew their work since they've practiced it all week and they executed it without the constant gesticulation and barking. This constant barking will limit them cos they'll feel remote controlled instead of actually playing their game.

Before the game myself, most.ob, dave.P and Sod(I think) postulated that we'll see more free game since Arteta isn't their and arsenal shocked us by even exceeding our expectations. Now let's wait and see if we'll see such freedom when playing Liverpool (2nd leg) with Arteta at the touchline.

Hopefully God keeps us alive by then.

Lmao you sef see am
City were all over the place, clueless
Even kdb was misplacing passes, but if na Arteta we will park double decker and absorb pressure till it burst

daveP:
Blueray, unless you want to refute my evident claim, there's no need for this.

Even if its not Arteta,even if na VAR room Arteta dey coach from or VIP room, there is always going to be a big difference, evidently. That is exactly what happened today. If you misconstrue this to mean i hate the Manager, OYO o.


This team felt absolutely Different from the time he was on the touchline no doubt.

It's absolutely unfortunate that you give no credit to Arteta who has been working on this team all these while. That starting eleven has been his for some time now. Their performance today is a product of all they have been doing together.

Jodera:
This is no agenda, at least I try as much not to be agenda-driven when making my point or observation.

Watching Liverpool match, in a certain situation I saw Arteta barking and bellowing on players to go back when Liverpool wanted to attack. Even when arsenal players went back, he still gesticulated for them to even go further back which made our defence line so deep. We played like cowards which made transitioning in our attack harder. There was a player (I think lokonga, not sure sha) who made a sullen face wen Arteta made that but he just have to do the needful. Same thing happened against man city (first leg).

Now look at this game and this high position martinelli and saka kept when we are attacking and compare with Liverpool's game or Man u game. Our players felt free, they knew their work since they've practiced it all week and they executed it without the constant gesticulation and barking. This constant barking will limit them cos they'll feel remote controlled instead of actually playing their game.

Before the game myself, most.ob, dave.P and Sod(I think) postulated that we'll see more free game since Arteta isn't their and arsenal shocked us by even exceeding our expectations. Now let's wait and see if we'll see such freedom when playing Liverpool (2nd leg) with Arteta at the touchline.

Hopefully God keeps us alive by then.

This is all whataboutism and nothing else . Diego Simeone , Conte , Klopp and other top coaches have their own ways of jumping on the touch line , barking instructions to their players telling them whether to defend , attack or simply recycle possession as the game may require .

What most of u usually do deliberately ( because it’s Arteta who is a rookie coach and hasn’t proven himself anywhere before he got Arsenal job ) is that u single him out for serious criticism when he makes take some tactical errors at critical points in the game . That Loserpool game almost everybody knows we Arsenal will not go to Anfield all guns blazing attacking Loserpool on their home ground . So how is passing instructions to his players to form a defensive a problem here ?

Agreed the defensive approach to that very game didn’t work , but we have seen the same Arteta beat city and Loserpool with this same approach catching them on counter after playing what people like to call haram football. Arteta is rookie coach who would definitely get some calls right and get others wrong .....he’s not some damn pep guardiola yet , he’s still learning the ropes. Those constant barking , getisculation( and any other words u use to refer to him constantly dishing out instructions to players during matches ) are the same he used when we were winning 5-0 , thrashing spurs and other good games we’ve seen this year . Now linking those actions of his to the good showing the boys had today just dey somehow .

But it seems everybody has made up their mind on this discussion so I will just not continue repeating the same thing over and over again jare.

Jodera:
This is no agenda, at least I try as much not to be agenda-driven when making my point or observation.

Watching Liverpool match, in a certain situation I saw Arteta barking and bellowing on players to go back when Liverpool wanted to attack. Even when arsenal players went back, he still gesticulated for them to even go further back which made our defence line so deep. We played like cowards which made transitioning in our attack harder. There was a player (I think lokonga, not sure sha) who made a sullen face wen Arteta made that but he just have to do the needful. Same thing happened against man city (first leg).

Now look at this game and this high position martinelli and saka kept when we are attacking and compare with Liverpool's game or Man u game. Our players felt free, they knew their work since they've practiced it all week and they executed it without the constant gesticulation and barking. This constant barking will limit them cos they'll feel remote controlled instead of actually playing their game.

Before the game myself, most.ob, dave.P and Sod(I think) postulated that we'll see more free game since Arteta isn't their and arsenal shocked us by even exceeding our expectations. Now let's wait and see if we'll see such freedom when playing Liverpool (2nd leg) with Arteta at the touchline.

Hopefully God keeps us alive by then.

What you have said here means nothing because we lost.
Let the assistant take the L then.

Spy360:
It's absolutely unfortunate that you give no credit to Arteta who has been working on this team all these while. That starting eleven has been his for some time now. Their performance today is a product of all they have been doing together.

God bless u for this . The lineup has been doing pretty well before this match , in fact it was the way they’ve been playing so well that made both our fans and rivals believe maybe we will have a good showing today ( which we did if not for the unfortunate ref ) ...... Now all this is the work of Arteta and his coaching crew .

How they are making it seem as if the assistant coaches programmed the brain of the players within few days as to how to execute the game with Arteta having minimal input is what baffles me.

BlueRayDick:
This is all whataboutism and nothing else . Diego Simeone , Conte , Klopp and other top coaches have their own ways of jumping on the touch line , barking instructions to their players telling them whether to defend , attack or simply recycle possession as the game may require .

What most of u usually do deliberately ( because it’s Arteta who is a rookie coach and hasn’t proven himself anywhere before he got Arsenal job ) is that u single him out for serious criticism when he makes take some tactical errors at critical points in the game . That Loserpool game almost everybody knows we Arsenal will not go to Anfield all guns blazing attacking Loserpool on their home ground . So how is passing instructions to his players to form a defensive a problem here ?

Agreed the defensive approach to that very game didn’t work , but we have seen the same Arteta beat city and Loserpool with this same approach catching them on counter after playing what people like to call haram football. Arteta is rookie coach who would definitely get some calls right and get others wrong .....he’s not some damn pep guardiola yet , he’s still learning the ropes. Those constant barking , getisculation( and any other words u use to refer to him constantly dishing out instructions to players during matches ) are the same he used when we were winning 5-0 , thrashing spurs and other good games we’ve seen this year . Now linking those actions of his to the good showing the boys had today just dey somehow .

But it seems everybody has made up their mind on this discussion so I will just not continue repeating the same thing over and over again jare.

Which every body?

Spy360:
Which every body?

There’s “almost” in front of “everybody”

BlueRayDick:
There’s “almost” in front of “everybody”

Me alone na majority

Spy360:
Me alone na majority

As per say U are with God and one with God is majority abi ?

arsenal sef no get respect, wetin their senior brother no fit do nain dey won do. god bless rodri!!!!!

iamoyindamola:
Lmao you sef see am
City were all over the place, clueless
Even kdb was misplacing passes, but if na Arteta we will park double decker and absorb pressure till it burst

Lol.. Like Roland will say "haram" football

I just dey wait for Liverpool 2nd leg. Hopefully our good runs continue

BlueRayDick:
This is all whataboutism and nothing else . Diego Simeone , Conte , Klopp and other top coaches have their own ways of jumping on the touch line , barking instructions to their players telling them whether to defend , attack or simply recycle possession as the game may require .

What most of u usually do deliberately ( because it’s Arteta who is a rookie coach and hasn’t proven himself anywhere before he got Arsenal job ) is that u single him out for serious criticism when he makes take some tactical errors at critical points in the game . That Loserpool game almost everybody knows we Arsenal will not go to Anfield all guns blazing attacking Loserpool on their home ground . So how is passing instructions to his players to form a defensive a problem here ?

Agreed the defensive approach to that very game didn’t work , but we have seen the same Arteta beat city and Loserpool with this same approach catching them on counter after playing what people like to call haram football. Arteta is rookie coach who would definitely get some calls right and get others wrong .....he’s not some damn pep guardiola yet , he’s still learning the ropes. Those constant barking , getisculation( and any other words u use to refer to him constantly dishing out instructions to players during matches ) are the same he used when we were winning 5-0 , thrashing spurs and other good games we’ve seen this year . Now linking those actions of his to the good showing the boys had today just dey somehow .

But it seems everybody has made up their mind on this discussion so I will just not continue repeating the same thing over and over again jare.

Lol... Like Roland says ystdy or two days back
"winning Manchester city will be too much to ask from these guys, but I beg the boys to not play like coward at least"

Now, Arteta hardly do all these gesticulation and barking on a constant when playing average or small team but he does it when playing big teams. Reason why it seems we are always afraid playing all these big teams even when we have the tools to at least play our game. Arteta beating Liverpool 2-1 is with that cowardly display is not something one should be proud of in terms of performance cos na triple decker we park dat day. I'm not against Arteta and I don't view him as a rookie coach presently, all I ask is let's play our game (as we did today) instead of all those haram football that we do wen playing man city or Liverpool. We normally give these teams over-respect more than what they deserve and it's annoying.


Also, you should at least know we made our concerns/postulations days before the match. I believe it would have been agenda driven if we made it after the match

Spy360:
What you have said here means nothing because we lost.
Let the assistant take the L then.

Lol... Can you imagine what you're saying?
The thing with you I noticed is that you take things black or white, you don't view process at all.

So the performance the guys gave means nothing cos we lost shey?

That's how you said lacazette is the same as balogun since he doesn't score. But now you enjoy arsenal play and even credit his presence to our attackers clicking even tho he's scored only one open play goal since we last had that argument. Meaning he's still the same non-scoring lacazette.

So to you, today's game means nothing cos we lost even tho we would have probably won if not for xhaka foolishness and Gabriel's red. The performance counts for nothing abi since we lost shey??

Spy spy!!