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| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by KNOWMORE56: 9:50pm On Dec 30, 2021 |
sonmvayina: " Soul = God's breath + dust of the earth. When a man dies the soul ceases to exist.. " Believe the word of God...! Soul is more than what you said above. Below are some verses that help us understand that soul is beyond just " God's breathe + dust of the earth. if you should substitute God's breathe + dust of the earth to every place you'll see what I'm talking about... *. Psalms 16:2 " KJV: O my soul, thou hast said unto the Lord , Thou art my Lord: my goodness extendeth not to thee" *. Psalms 16:10 " KJV:For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption." *. Psalms 31:9 " KJV:Have mercy upon me, O Lord, for I am in trouble: mine eye is consumed with grief, yea, my soul and my belly. " *. Psalms 34:2 "KJV: My soul shall make her boast in the Lord : the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad." *. Psalms 42:4 " KJV:When I remember these things, I pour out my soul in me: for I had gone with the multitude, I went with them to the house of God, with the voice of joy and praise, with a multitude that kept holyday." *. Psalms 42:5 " KJV: Why art thou cast down, O my soul? And why art thou disquieted in me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him for the help of his countenance." *. Psalms 42:6 "KJV: O my God, my soul is cast down within me : therefore will I remember thee from the land of Jordan, and of the Hermonites, from the hill Mizar" *. Psalms 42:11 " KJV: Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God" *. Psalms 43:5 " KJV: Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God." |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by sonmvayina(m): 11:04pm On Dec 30, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56: All of them supports my position... When God's spirit dwells within a body, it becomes a soul.. What else do you see? |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by Janosky: 12:51am On Dec 31, 2021 |
Rosement:Rosement why are you WAILING upandan throwing childish tantrums? Phones and cars are means of commerce, communication and transportation. Is your Bible against it? Definitely not! Did Jesus do commerce? Yes ! Did Jesus communicate? Yes! Did Jesus transport from place to place? Ys Is Jesus against birthday celebration? Mark 6:21, Mark 8:15 & Act12:22. Yes Matthew 28:20 did Jesus teach birthdays? No! Rosement:Judges 4:18 Jael came out to welcome Sisera. She said to him, "Stop and rest, my lord. Stop and rest with me. Don't be afraid." So Sisera stopped to rest in her tent, and she put a blanket over him" Jael a woman of God used blanket. Did Jesus Christ or your Bible speak against her? Mark 6:21 & Mark 8:15, did Jesus speak against King Herod the birthday celebrant? Yes ! . Rosement:What is that thing Jesus used that is not recorded? Can you prove Jesus used a thing & it is not recorded in your Bible? Rosement:1 kings 21:21, God decreed the punishment on Ahab and ALL his offsprings. 2 Kings 10:7 is the fulfillment for 1kings 21:21 punishment on Ahab's family. Rosement:John 6:13, did Jesus decree punishment on anyone eating bread from a basket? You don't want to learn your Bible & stick with the truth but you are throwing tantrums upandan  Rosement:LIAR Always typing GIBBERISH. Rosement:Rosement why do you DECEIVE yourself? Mark 6:18, is king Herod morally right to marry his brother's wife? Will Rosement practice that? Matthew 28:20, Jesus did NOT teach birthday celebration and neither practice it. Is it righteousness to add birthday celebration to Bible doctrine,a pagan practice forbidden by ALL servants of God ? Mark 8:15 Jesus ranks king Herod with the Pharisees. Mark 8:15 & Matthew 5:20 , when you copy the practices of king Herod, are you approved by Jesus Christ & his Father? Rosement:Matthew 28:20, did Jesus Christ set Christmas and birthdays as Bible doctrine? Mark 8:15 & Matthew 5:20, did Jesus Christ agree with your claim? Matthew 5:20, your way of life must be different from king Herod, says Jesus Christ Rosement: Did Jesus wear clothes? Did Jesus eat food? Did Jesus live in a house? Did Jesus approve of marriage & children? Yes Rosement:So very dull and incoherent diatribe of Rosement. From Genesis to Revelation,which man of God celebrated birthdays? |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by Rosement(f): 3:22pm On Dec 31, 2021 |
Janosky:If you think your insult can bother me, you are just wasting your time. Your father, satan cannot also communicate without insulting, so I expect you to do the same. Jesus loves celebrating a lot, He observed a lot of celebrations with His parents when He was a child and He did not condemn any of the celebrations. Instead, He took celebrations more serious when He became an adult. (Luke 2:40-43) Jesus was too eager to eat the Passover food with His disciples. (Luke 22:14-15) Matzah is Passover and the Feast of unleavened bread. (Luke 22:7-9) Today, the Jewish people do not only celebrate Passover as a historical event, now they celebrate it in a broader sense, as their freedom as Jews and the birth of the Jewish nation after being freed by God from captivity. Jesus loved celebrations to the extend that He attended the Feast of Tabernacles secretly when the Judean leaders were looking for Him with the intention of killing Him. Sukkot is the Feast of Tabernacles (John 7:1-10). Is the day Jesus came into the world to deliver us from satan not important? Hanukkah was not even specifically ordained in the books of Moses, it is just a festival commemorating the recovery of Jerusalem and subsequent rededication of the Second Temple at the beginning of the Maccabean revolt against the Seleucid Empire but Jesus still celebrated it, why did He not ignore it or condemn it. Jesus does not enjoy mourning like you and your master, satan. He loves celebrating a lot Hanukkah is the Feast of Dedication or Festival of Lights. (John 10: 22-23). Jews are known to always mark and celebrate their wins, why should I not celebrate my wins? Time will not permit me to list all Feasts that Jews celebrated. Shabbat is the Feast of First Fruits (Matthew 28:1) Shavuot is the Feast of Weeks (Acts 2:1). There are so many activities that are not recorded that Jews did that we are doing today. Why did you attend primary school and secondary school? Did Jews attend normal schools like us. I expect your cult to also be against birth control. Why are you guys hypocrites? Birth control is seen as a personal decision and is left to the individual's conscience in your cult because it is not directly discussed in the Bible but Christmas is also not directly discussed in the Bible, yet, your cult is against it. The truth is you and your cult members are only angry because you hate celebrations, your master, satan cannot even stand seeing people celebrate. It is better for you and your master to keep quiet. There is nothing for you to say again, you have been exposed. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by Rosement(f): 6:12pm On Dec 31, 2021 |
Janosky:Why do you keep quoting verses that are not related to this discussion? Christmas is not mentioned or discussed in the Bible verses you have been quoting throughout our discussion. Mark 6:21 "And when a convenient day was come, that Herod on his birthday made a supper to his lords, high captains, and chief estates of Galilee;" Why did you quote this verse again? How times will I tell you that I am not related to herod and he is not my role model? Matthew 5:20 "For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven". Mark 8:15 "And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod." I don't understand why you quoted these verses. Matthew 5:20 and Mark 8:15 has nothing to do with Christmas or birthdays. Jesus was only talking about hypocrisy. He was warning us not to be hypocrites like you and your other cult members. You and your cult members are always boasting like the pharisees. You guys are always trying to force us to believe that you are saints and you are always behaviouring as if your belief is the most noble, to the extend that you don't see anything wrong in forcing your beliefs on others. We Christians are not like you, we don't force our beliefs on others. When we go for evangelism, we don't add to or subtract from people's doctrine. We ask people to repent and come to Christ, it is after people have converted and became Christians that they start following the Christian doctrines. How is my love for Christmas your business? Am I forcing you to celebrate Christmas or am I a member of your cult? Why are you trying to force me to follow your doctrine? Act 12:22 "And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man". This verse is not even in anyway related to this discussion. Matthew 28:20 "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen". I still don't understand why you keep quoting this verse. Jesus was only telling us to follow all His commandments and don't celebrate Christmas is not part of His command. Don't mention me again, if you don't have anything relevant to say. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by KNOWMORE56: 7:36pm On Dec 31, 2021 |
Rosement: The JW are against almost everything Christians do. They are taught to hate everything about you including your person, your name. There was time they rejected to be called Christians... up till now, they don't want to be called a denomination church... they are not permitted to sing any Christan song, I wonder what they sing in their congregation. I've no heard their song before... They were deceived to believe that by hating others they will be loved... forgetting what my Master said *. Matthew 7:12 " KJV: Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. All the evil they have done and said are coming back to hurt them now... and there's no hiding place for them! 2 Likes |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by KNOWMORE56: 8:23pm On Dec 31, 2021 |
Janosky: "...Mark against King Herod the birthday celebrant? Yes !6:21 & Mark 8:15, did Jesus speak... Jesus did not speak against birthday celebration anywhere in the Bible. Let's see the quotation you gave: *. Mark 8:15 " KJV:And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.  the leaven of Herod is = Herod's birthday celebration?All the things your organisation practice pagans have their own version of them all... The other time I told one of you that in Bible, building halls or temples are pagans practices... God only approved make-shift canopies for places of worship.... It was David who ( possibly because the Ark of God was kept in the temple of Dragon) gave the idea... God opposed it 1st time but later gave them go ahead! Never at any time it's said anything that originated from the pagans should not be found among God people... Lists of things: 1. Wedding rings 2. Wedding flowers 3. Burial flowers 4. Mourning the dead 5. Dancing 6. Playing musical instruments 7. Showcasing your God to be the best, etc The rule guiding these things is DON'T USE THEIR (pagans) STYLE! *. Matthew 6:2 " KJV:Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 5 KJV:And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. *. Luke 14:12 " 12 KJV:Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours; (as the hypocrites do) lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee." 1 Like |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by Rosement(f): 8:28pm On Dec 31, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56:Guy, you have finally hit the nail on the head. This will definitely make them speechless. Never at any time it's said anything that originated from the pagans should not be found among God people... The rule guiding these things is DON'T USE THEIR (pagans) STYLE! 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by KNOWMORE56: 3:39am On Jan 01, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Ok, let me make my point very clear for you: I have not said "Soul = God's breathe+dust of the earth is wrong... but I have said that Soul, as seen from the Bible is more than that. For example, if soul is ONLY God's breathe+ dust of the earth, can this be true about God Himself? Because the verses below show that God has soul also, making the OP position Biblically acceptable: *. Leviticus 26:11 " KJV:And I set my tabernacle among you: and MY SOUL shall not abhor you ... 30 KJV:And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and MY SOUL shall abhor you. *. Isaiah 1:14 "KJV: Your new moons and your appointed feasts MY SOUL hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them." *. Jeremiah 5:9 "KJV:Shall I not visit for these things? saith the Lord: and shall not MY SOUL be avenged on such a nation as this? ... 29 KJV:Shall I not visit for these things? saith the Lord: shall not MY SOUL be avenged on such a nation as this ? *. Jeremiah 6:8 "KJV: Be thou instructed, O Jerusalem, lest MY SOUL depart from thee; lest I make thee desolate, a land not inhabited. *. Jeremiah 9:9 "KJV:Shall I not visit them for these things? saith the Lord: shall not MY SOUL be avenged on such a nation as this ?" So my dear friend, what is the composition of God's soul? |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by sonmvayina(m): 4:02pm On Jan 01, 2022 |
KNOWMORE56: That is what is dwelling within us.... It shows you don't really understand them. You are reading from God's perspective rather than the writers perspective...it is the prophets that are saying those things..God is not speaking verbally...I don't know how else to teach you..... |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by haddeylium(m): 11:01pm On Jan 01, 2022 |
NNTR:This why I encourage people to use and combine different translation. It does help. Don't misunderstood me. Let's take it a step at a time We've both established from the bible that the destination of the dead is Sheol(Grave) which you called 'The land of the dead right? God's word says 'There's nothing like being conscious or knowing anything in that realm of dead' (Eccl 9:10) which corroborate another verse that says 'Someone's thought perish the day he die' If you knew that, they why ask a lame question? Getting a lame answer, in return back, sure with it, had your faculties reset back to Manufacturer's default proper settings, lollI can recall I told you that I'm not so fluent with this language. How would I have known that you're playing around with words with the direct question I asked? We've been having an healthy conversation all along. I've tried so much to be respectful and I don't appreciate this tone. I'm going to halt this conversation if it continues. Thanks for your time |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by haddeylium(m): 11:08pm On Jan 01, 2022 |
tctrills: Hmnnn..... interesting I'm learning new things everyday. Let me bookmark this If I understand you very well, you mean Hyman's life didn't begin or was CREATED in the garden of Eden ? Genesis 1:27. “God proceeded to create the man in his image, |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by haddeylium(m): 11:11pm On Jan 01, 2022 |
tctrills: Our heavenly father does not possess a physical body? If it's going to be like his, do you think the body is going to be physical or Spirit own? Don't mistake it also, it's physical body God's word says it's corruptible |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by mysticwarrior(m): 11:57pm On Jan 01, 2022 |
dingbang:really? |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by NNTR: 5:27am On Jan 02, 2022 |
haddeylium:If you have been observant enough, you would have noticed that using and combining different bible translation are exactly charges I am guilty off, loll. haddeylium:You misunderstood yourself, not me misunderstanding you. I see very clearly from miles away, where, when and all what you are misunderstanding, loll. haddeylium:Calm down too while taking the step at a time, loll haddeylium:Jonah 2:2 NLT He said, “I cried out to the LORD in my great trouble, and he answered me. I called to you from the land of the dead, and LORD, you heard me! Ezekiel 32:32 For I have caused my terror in the land of the living: and he shall be laid in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that are slain with the sword, even Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD. Argue with the bible, that explicitly called it the 'the land of the dead' Out of ignorance and arrogance you mock the usage of 'the land of the dead' Look at you lol laughing at the usage of 'the land of the dead' in a sneering and contemptuous manner I deliberately left out sharing the bible verses that uses 'the land of the dead' as I just knew you'll try to ridicule the use of the phrase, loll. You didnt disappoint, loll. Thanks, loll. haddeylium:Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol (the nether world, the place of the dead) where you are going. My dear, haddeylium, what Ecclesiastes 9:5, Ecclesiastes 9:10 etc are saying, is that, there is no repentance when dead and especially when already in the grave. Moreover, once a soul has crossed over into the realm of the dead, they have no more work which they can do, no plans or calculations to make on anymore in the land of the living. The activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom is strictly limited to the grave. Any activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom for the land of the living for the dead is ended. This is because of reasons, that, activities or planning or knowledge or executing wisdom in the land of the living requires a body and soul, to carry on such things or carry out such activities in that world. Now its the lack of a body that causes the total change in the man's consciousness and capacities. Ecclesiastes 9:10, is giving information, that, the hand of the clock cant be turned back once in Sheol, once dead etc, loll. haddeylium:John 11:11-14 11After Jesus said this, he told his disciples, "Our friend Lazarus is sleeping, and I'm going to Bethany to wake him." 12His disciples said to him, "Lord, if he's sleeping, he'll get well." 13Jesus meant that Lazarus was dead, but the disciples thought Jesus meant that Lazarus was only sleeping. 14Then Jesus told them plainly, "Lazarus has died, Listen to this. Sleep is synonymous with death. Now all this is based on the fact, that, when sleeping, one loses all consciousness to what is happening in the surrounding outside in the room that the body is sleeping in. It is just the same way with death, one loses, all consciousness to what is happening in the surrounding outside in the place where the body is resting too, lol, meaning the dead doesnt know whats going on in the land of the living and those in the land of the living dont know what going down in the land of the dead I served you back in the same currency you put forward, but if you want to talk of '...playing around with words...', well the bible is a skilful master of double entendres, triple entendres, quadruple entendres, even multiple entendres loll. It has a fair share of polysemous and full of recondite information, loll, so do yourself a favour of, believe in and follow the practices of 2 Timothy 2:15, so to be able to fix the 'I'm not so fluent with this language' handicap, loll. Before Jesus' clarity in the New Testament, Sheol in general, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been known as the land of the dead, realm of the dead and even too, abode of the dead You can see proofs of this in Old Testament verse like Psalm 9:17 etc suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it Jesus, in the New Testament, who brought things into a better perspective for us about life after death. This was when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol, with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side. Now, remember, me earlier saying that, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality in it, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man, the parable gives you insight into the innings and goings of the land of the dead, loll. haddeylium:I think my dear, haddeylium this is you here, fishing for a non existence offence. The last thing you'll find me do, is disrespect you, go check out the encomium I posted about you, on your birthday. Note that, nobody else, other than me, wished you well nor accorded you any well wishes and praise on that special day of yours loll Whenever I have an epiphany, whenever I have the satori moment, whenever I grasp a rhema, whenever I have an ah-ha moment, whenever I have an eureka moment etc, its all down to my faculty(ies) being reset back to Manufacturer's default proper settings. There isnt anything shameful in having faculty(ies) reset back to Manufacturer's default proper settings. There isnt anything not to appreciate in saying 'faculty(ies) being reset back to Manufacturer's default proper settings'. Smh. Pfft. Nothing is more dangerous than a mind, a state of mind that permanently rejects and instantly refuses moments to entertain a new, knowledge, information haddeylium:As if I care if you do halt this conversation, loll. I am sure that when you've seen that the jungle has matured, you'll hastily leave the 'conservation', sorry meant conversation, loll. haddeylium:I am wary of accepting trojan thanks, especially when it sounds hollow Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by tctrills: 8:55pm On Jan 02, 2022 |
[quote author=haddeylium post=109002362] Our heavenly father does not possess a physical body? If it's going to be like his, do you think the body is going to be physical or Spirit own? Don't mistake it also, it's physical body God's word says it's corruptible[/quoteWhat is the meaning of physical? It means it's tangible. It can be held and felt. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by tctrills: 8:57pm On Jan 02, 2022 |
haddeylium:The bible says the spirit of man was formed within God, not in the garden. But our human existence began in the garden. Note spirits are not humans. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by tctrills: 8:58pm On Jan 02, 2022 |
haddeylium:Remember, man was created in his image |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by tctrills: 11:55pm On Jan 02, 2022 |
haddeylium:That's the beauty of scripture reading. Our relationship with God began before the world was created. We are his spirit children. That is why the scriptures call him our Heavenly Father. We came from heaven. And we have the potential to become like God. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by Janosky: 10:36pm On Jan 04, 2022 |
KNOWMORE56:@ Matthew 28:20, is Christmas the command Jesus Christ gave to KNOWMORE56? Is Mark against King Herod the birthday celebrant? Yes! Oga, Mark is whose apostle? KNOWMORE56:Jeremiah 10:2 Amplified Bible "Thus says the LORD, “Do not learn the way of the [pagan] nations" Oga, do not learn the way of pagans which Yahweh have not approved- Galatians 4:8-11, Mark 6:21 & Mark8:15. Matthew 28:20, Oga do not learn the way of pagans which Jesus Christ did NOT approve. KNOWMORE56:@ Matthew 28:20, did Jesus Christ give KNOWMORE56 "go ahead" to do birthday celebration? KNOWMORE56: According to KNOWMORE56 copy of the Bible, @ Genesis 40:20 & Mark 6:21,is birthday celebration "the STYLE" of people of God? Genesis 40:20 & Mark 6:21, is king Pharoah and king Herod people of God? |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by OjodomoBlessing: 10:42pm On Jan 04, 2022 |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by Janosky: 10:50pm On Jan 04, 2022 |
KNOWMORE56:KNOWMORE56 bigotry. Spurious claims upandan KNOWMORE56:How does your songs for your 3 person gods translate to Christian songs? How does your worship of 3 persons translate to "Christian" or Christ like? John 20:17,Did Christ worship 3 persons? KNOWMORE56: KNOWMORE56 bigotry is very luminous. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by haddeylium(m): 6:01pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
NNTR:Oh! I'm sorry, I didn't notice this. Thank you for the gesture but I don't celebrate my birthdays. Thanks for your time |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by haddeylium(m): 6:06pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
tctrills: and the man became a living person.(Gen 2:7). God's we are created and our life started on earth. To create means to come from inexistence or nothing. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by haddeylium(m): 6:09pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
tctrills: John 8:23 23So he went on to say to them: “YOU are from the realms below; I am from the realms above. YOU are from this world; I am not from this world I don't think we need to stretch things from Jesus' statement here  |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by NNTR: 8:06pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
haddeylium:Never mind. Better late noticing than never at all notice, is what I say, loll haddeylium:You make me laugh out loud literally. Why did you put a birthday cake with lit up candles on your profile page then, if you dont celebrate birthdays. Anyway, thats how I got to know that the particular day you left a birthday cake on your profile page was your birthday. Welcome to the club, because that makes two of us, at least who doesnt celebrate birthdays, loll. haddeylium:Aside from celebrating you, the gesture was saluting and wishing you well for the interaction time we've had, loll. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by tctrills: 9:36pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
haddeylium:Great question. Who was Christ talking to in John 8.23? He was talking to the sinful unbelieving Jews. He made it clear in verse 44 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Do you understand? |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by Kobojunkie: 9:43pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
tctrills:Adam was the man who was created in the image of God, an image that was likely lost to us after Adam was condemned/cursed by God for his sin.  |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by tctrills: 9:47pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
haddeylium:First, to create does not mean to bring to existence from nothing. Remember Adam was created from the dust of the earth. Also that man became a living being does not mean that our spirits where non living. That scripture was talking about the physical creation. Our relationship with God began before the world's were created. Ephesians 1.4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love. You don't choose something that does not exist. He knew each and every one of us and destined us. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by tctrills: 9:51pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:The image of God did not change. Or was it recorded anywhere that the image changed. Adam looked like God. Man looks like God. Jesus was the express image of the Father. He has a body and a spirit. At the end of this life, the faithful would live with God and inherit all he has just like Jesus Christ. Eating the fruit actually made man to become more like God and not less like God. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by tctrills: 10:06pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
haddeylium:I believe John 6.63 would help answer your question better. 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. This makes us understand that man could only become living when the spirit entered the body. Prior to that the flesh was dead. It's the spirit that gave it life. Do you understand. James 2.26 The body without the spirithe is dead. So it's nothe the spirit that dies but the body. Hence the bible was clearly talking about the body of man becoming a living soul after the spirit entered it. |
| Re: If God Is A Spirit, What Does It Mean To Be Created In His Image? by Kobojunkie: 10:08pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
tctrills:1. God is Holy and it follows that His image is also Holy, or can that which is cursed belong to or be of God, in otherworldly, retain its holiness? 2. Adam was not born of Spirit but of the physical elements of this here earth - Genesis 2 vs 6-7.. God affirmed this when He cursed Adam to die - from dust you were made and to dust you return. Adam had no eternal life hence no spirit - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 Jesus Christ restated this in John 3 vs 5 - 8, He stated that the only birth an individual knows from his mother's womb is a physical birth. |
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