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Researchers at the University of Alabama-Birmingham have successfully transplanted two kidneys from a genetically modified pig into a human who was brain dead.



It marks the second successful transplant of pig kidneys into a human in the United States, following a similar achievement by surgeons at NYU Langone Health in New York City last October in a procedure that also involved a brain-dead recipient, the researchers said in an article published Thursday by the American Journal of Transplantation.



On Jan. 10, surgeons in Maryland successfully transplanted a pig heart into 57-year-old Jim Parsons with life-threatening heart failure who had exhausted other treatments and did not qualify for a human heart transplant because he was not healthy enough.


This research/experiment is already gathering momentum and it will soon be recommended as a safe medical practice.

Should Christian faith subscribe to this knowing well we are God's image?

I believe this is a fulfillment of the Word of God in the book of Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.” This scientific experiment can be considered a great advancement in the field of medicine. The spiritual implication is better discerned than scientifically inferred.

IrepChrist:
Should Christian faith subscribe to this knowing well we are God's image?

But there is no "Christian" perspective to be had of this or whatever issues anyone may choose to have of it.

Nukilia:
I believe this is a fulfillment of the Word of God in the book of Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.” This scientific experiment can be considered a great advancement in the field of medicine. The spiritual implication is better discerned than scientifically inferred.

And what "spiritual" implication would that be?

Nukilia:
I believe this is a fulfillment of the Word of God in the book of Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.” This scientific experiment can be considered a great advancement in the field of medicine. The spiritual implication is better discerned than scientifically inferred.

What prophecy?

Kobojunkie:
But there is no "Christian" perspective to be had of this or whatever issues anyone may choose to have of it.

Are you seeing your ignorant Christian colleagues?. @Op Don't take any transplant if you have organ disease just pray after all Jesus said in Mathew 7:7 ask and you shall receive.
Let the number of fools who carry religion more than the white people that gave them reduce. Don't worry about it it's natural selection

ifyken:
Are you seeing your ignorant Christian colleagues?. @Op Don't take any transplant if you have organ disease just pray after all Jesus said in Mathew 7:7 ask and you shall receive.
Let the number of fools who carry religion more than the white people that gave them reduce. Don't worry about it it's natural selection

The power of God is real. I am a living witness.
Divine health is my heritage in Christ.

IrepChrist:
The power of God is real. I am a living witness.
Divine health is my heritage in Christ.

No one is doubting the power of God here. I too am living witness to the power and Truth of God. However, even I know there is nothing remotely Christian to be said of this here story or any other like it.

By the way, what do you mean exactly by "divine" health?

IrepChrist:
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Should Christian faith subscribe to this knowing well we are God's image?

There is nothing new under the sun. They did it in the days of Noah. According to the book of jasher cloning is not a new thing.

Jasher 4:18
. . . And the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth , the beast of the field and the fowls of the air , and taught the mixture of animals of one species with another . . . and God saw the the earth and it was corrupt , for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth , all men and animals . .

They are getting closer to their aim . They start with something that look nice and helpful. But finally enter into perversion. Everyone should read the book of jasher

Read my thread on this
https://www.nairaland.com/6019195/why-new-vaccine-may-probably#92183834

Kobojunkie:
No one is doubting the power of God here. I too am living witness to the power and Truth of God. However, even I know there is nothing remotely Christian to be said of this here story or any other like it.

By the way, what do you mean exactly by "divine" health?

So many diseases today are directly linked to unhealth y lifestyle and bad eating habits only in exception to heredity. Divine health is a eating lifestyle guided by biblical principles. E.g We have been warned in the scriptures on what to eat and what not to.
Alcohol, Substance abuse, Tobacco etc Are all the root cause of damaged organs.


So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. –

1 Corinthians 10:31


When you bring God into your healthy eating, it changes everything

Striving to honor Him in your food and drink choices will also guarantee your longitivity.

IrepChrist:
1. So many diseases today are directly linked to unhealth y lifestyle and bad eating only in exception to hereditary. Divine health is an healthy lifestyle guided by biblical principles. E.g We have been warned in the scriptures on what to eat and what not to.

2. Alcohol, Substance abuse, Tobacco etc Are all the route cause of damaged organs.


3. So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. –
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1 Corinthians 10:31
When you bring God into your healthy eating, it changes everything
Striving to honor Him in your food and drink choices will also guarantee your longitivity.

1. I am afraid you are mistaken. There are no bible principles that guide you to a disease/sickness free lifestyle as you claim.

2. Jesus Christ declared His followers are free to ingest anything they want this because nothing they eat defiles them or makes them unclean- Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20. Are you here suggesting that Jesus Christ lied?

Jesus Christ even went on to say, of those who believe in Him, that they will drink poison and it wil not harm them - Mark 16 vs 15 - 17. . Are you instead insinuating that Jesus Christ was wrong and that there are foods and substances that will harm His own wine ingested?

3. What exactly does it mean to do something to the glory of God? I mean if God is only honored when I trust and obey His actual commandments and teachings to me, what then does it mean to say I eat and drink to the glory of God?

petra1:
There is nothing new under the sun. They did it in the days of Noah. According to the book of jasher cloning is not a new thing.

Jasher 4:18
. . . And the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth , the beast of the field and the fowls of the air , and taught the mixture of animals of one species with another . . . and God saw the the earth and it was corrupt , for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth , all men and animals . .

They are getting closer to their aim . They start with something that look nice and helpful. But finally enter into perversion. Everyone should read the book of jasher

Read my thread on this
https://www.nairaland.com/6019195/why-new-vaccine-may-probably#92183834

Which book of Jasher? You mean all the hoax books that claim to be the book of Jasher?

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid you are mistaken. There are no bible principles that guide you to a disease/sickness free lifestyle as you claim.

2. Jesus Christ declared His followers are free to ingest anything they want this because nothing they eat defiles them or makes them unclean- Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20. Are you here suggesting that Jesus Christ lied?

Jesus Christ even went on to say, of those who believe in Him, that they will drink poison and it wil not harm them - Mark 16 vs 15 - 17. . Are you instead insinuating that Jesus Christ was wrong and that there are foods and substances that will harm His own wine ingested?

3. What exactly does it mean to do something to the glory of God? I mean if God is only honored when I trust and obey His actual commandments and teachings to me, what then does it mean to say I eat and drink to the glory of God?

The Scripture quoted above simply explains that we must glorify God in our body because he owns it. We must be mindful of not only the destructive substances but all other activities we engage in. Our body is the only guaranty for our legal residence on earth. Many have a purposeful life that should ordinarily Span through long decades but dies before time because of wrecklessness.
If we kill this mortal body before the appointed time, We would give account.

IrepChrist:
1. The Scripture quoted above simply explains that we must glorify God in our body because he owns it. We must be mindful of not only the destructive substances but all other activities we engage in.

2..Our body is the only guaranty for our legal residence on earth. Many have a purposeful life that should ordinarily Span through long decades but dies before time because of wrecklessness.
If we kill this mortal body before the appointed time, We would give account.

1. Jesus Christ made the food you ingest a non-issue for those in the Kingdom of God. Are you here saying Paul changed God's Law as decreed by Jesus Christ, suggesting instead that what we eat an drink glorifies God? If yes, how?.

2. So again, are you suggesting that Jesus Christ was wrong for giving us commandments that essentially free us from the burden on giving too much attention to what we eat or drink or ingest?

LordReed:
Which book of Jasher? You mean all the hoax books that claim to be the book of Jasher?

The origjnal.. have you read any? Is the bibible not called hoax? Get personal facts . If read that book you will know it's no hoax

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ made the food you ingest a non-issue for those in the Kingdom of God. Are you here saying Paul changed God's Law as decreed by Jesus Christ, suggesting instead that what we eat an drink glorifies God? If yes, how?.

2. So again, are you suggesting that Jesus Christ was wrong for giving us commandments that essentially free us from the burden on giving too much attention to what we eat or drink or ingest?

Bro. I understand your summation. But this is my Stance. The books of the new testaments are beyond the letter understanding but the conviction in the spirit of law.

I am guided by the holy spirit to know what is clean and unclean, what will build or destroy and this remains the key to the divine health aforementioned.

IrepChrist:
1. Bro. I understand your summation. But this is my Stance. The books of the new testaments are beyond the letter understanding but the conviction in the spirit of law.

2. I am guided by the holy spirit to know what is clean and unclean, what will build or destroy and this remains the key to the divine health aforementioned.

1. Your stance seems to contradict Jesus Christ, the one who is the Word of God, God's very own New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God. How come?

2. Are you saying Jesus Christ, who decreed no food unclean was not guided by the Holy Spirit at all when He declared this in Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20 and Mark 7 vs 10 - 23?

petra1:
The origjnal.. have you read any? Is the bibible not called hoax? Get personal facts . If read that book you will know it's no hoax

When have I called the Bible a hoax? No credible bible scholar will certify any of the so called books of Jasher so on what authority do you say it is real?

IrepChrist:
Researchers at the University of Alabama-Birmingham have successfully transplanted two kidneys from a genetically modified pig into a human who was brain dead.



It marks the second successful transplant of pig kidneys into a human in the United States, following a similar achievement by surgeons at NYU Langone Health in New York City last October in a procedure that also involved a brain-dead recipient, the researchers said in an article published Thursday by the American Journal of Transplantation.



On Jan. 10, surgeons in Maryland successfully transplanted a pig heart into 57-year-old Jim Parsons with life-threatening heart failure who had exhausted other treatments and did not qualify for a human heart transplant because he was not healthy enough.


This research/experiment is already gathering momentum and it will soon be recommended as a safe medical practice.

Should Christian faith subscribe to this knowing well we are God's image?

Unfortunately, some pigs are better than some human beings. If you can take transplant or blood from a human being that you don't know, why exactly can't you take a SAFE transplant from an animal? Does God not replace humans with stone? Do crippled people not use wooden aid? So it is pig that wants to take your salvation or what?

Kobojunkie:
1. Your stance seems to contradict Jesus Christ, the one who is the Word of God, God's very own New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God. How come?

2. Are you saying Jesus Christ, who decreed no food unclean was not guided by the Holy Spirit at all when He declared this in Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20 and Mark 7 vs 10 - 23?

Yes Christ rebuked Peter not to call God's creation unclean. Apparently he wasn't directly referring to the beasts in the vision. He wanted to change the Jewish background and mindset of segregation against the gentiles that was still in Peter.

I stated unclean as an expression of prohibition...
Such are Alcohol, drugs and substance abuse and all other Sins committed in the body. And these are the major causes of shortened life resulting from organ failure.

IrepChrist:
1. Yes Christ rebuked Peter not to call God's creation unclean. Apparently he wasn't directly referring to the beasts in the vision. He wanted to change the Jewish background and mindset of segregation against the gentiles that was still in Peter.

3. I stated unclean as an expression of prohibition...
Such are Alcohol, drugs and substance abuse and all other Sins committed in the body. And these are the major causes of shortened life resulting from organ failure.

I didn't say anything about Peter's vision as that has little to nothing to do with this conversation here...

Again,
1. Your stance seems to contradict Jesus Christ, the one who is the Word of God, God's very own New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God. How come?

2. Are you saying Jesus Christ, who decreed no food unclean was not guided by the Holy Spirit at all when He declared this in Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20 and Mark 7 vs 10 - 23?

3. Jesus Christ never prohibited any foods or substances, and since He indicated that those who believe in Him will drink poison and it will cause them no harm, clearly your belief in divine health does not line up at all with the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself. Why is that?