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Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Nobody: 9:50am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
Das why the foundations were not fixed permanently. The whole structure is removable. Call and tell Dangote to remove the Refinery to an oil producing State like Imo.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Panda7(m): 9:51am On Jan 26, 2022
anonimi:
Shallow mindedness of 200 million mumus on display huh
How has Dangote helped Nigeria, versus the benefits he has received from various governments since 1999?
Do you knowhuh
how has the one you elected help Nigerianshuh
in what personal business of theirs have they been successful without politics moneyhuh
this is one of the worlds most successful business man you are blabbing about or Nigeria is the get rich scheme for every politician. in what way have they help the masses that dangote can'thuh
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Abujaexpress: 9:51am On Jan 26, 2022
Monopoly in the petroleum sector loading
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by angelfallz(m): 9:52am On Jan 26, 2022
You are correct.

But Nigeria would always give him a better deal, and it would always be cheaper than importing the crude.

Ayomi90:
Dangote doesn't own Nigeria oil, he needs to buy it from Nigeria ND if Nigeria doesn't come with a suitable deal it's best to buy elsewhere, this is business.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by OlawaleBammie: 9:55am On Jan 26, 2022
BiafranPatriot:
Dont tell them...Remember its IGR even if their people are dying. Its IGR. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
bad belle

Ur ph people don kpain finish grin grin grin
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by dapolaw(m): 10:00am On Jan 26, 2022
You want to tell man where to site his business?

Do you know why you are stucked where you are? You make business decisions out of sentiment and not out of business sense.






JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by OmegaAutos: 10:01am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
They tried to situate it in Ondo, an oil producing state and a relatively peaceful zone, but the greed and lack of foresight if the past governor nessecitated the choice of Lagos
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by angelfallz(m): 10:01am On Jan 26, 2022
Made up my mind? how do you mean?

The first bolded,
Yes there are scenarios where Dangote would have to import crude. That is not what I am saying. What I am saying is, why would the importation of crude be a priority to him when there is already crude in Nigeria, which is closer and eliminates the need to transport it and driving down cost?

The second bolded,
That is true. But in the case of Nigeria I can't think of why Dangote would need to buy crude from other countries. Unless if you want to mention Niger Delta problems.


aribisala0:
I wonder whether you have already made up your mind
You say 2000km
Whether it be the crude or it be the refined products traveling to market that 2000km would have to be travelled .It then comes down to ANALYSIS of DATA. to make the OPTIMAL BUSINESS CHOICE That is the responsibility of Dangote. It is his busines
Sounds counter productive does not make it so
There are so many reasons and scenaros why this can happen. It is important to make a distinction between Dangote's business and Nigeria they are not the same thing .Those blind spots lead to inaccurate thinking
Depending on geography and Logistics it may make sense for the same country to sell and buy crude

This is not a theoretical speculation.
Is it happening anywhere? YES The USA is a very good example . So let us not rely on gut feelings or how things "sound" but base our conclusions on fact an figures based analysis
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Nobody: 10:03am On Jan 26, 2022
People that quick to mention hate are the main enemy of progress but intend to hide under the shadows of wickness to execute their evil minds.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/477546-seven-people-killed-dangote-trucks-set-ablaze-as-okada-riders-clash-escalates.html


lordm:
that would be a bad decision, most people from that region hate Dangote and they would want to damage it if any crisis occur
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by ppogba: 10:04am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
Someone adviced that you purge yourself of bitterness, hatred and envy. I will advise that you purge yourself of stupidity and ignorance.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by marsman: 10:05am On Jan 26, 2022
jaxxy:
Captalism I can understand cos u compete and win bt monopoly is using unfair leverage and government influence to make sure u are ontop to frustrate weaker ones in same sectors. U get waivers and preferential treatment others can’t and won’t afford.

That’s different from capitalism.
You are wrong Mr, you can't call it a monopoly if he is not the only one in the business. Every business seek for favour here and there, especially with govt all over the world. Others should seek too, be friends with who you have to be friends with, shake hands that has to be shaked , so that you all can compete on the same par level. You can't over rule the influence of the govt in a business mans life, this is what others are missing. He has the VP you should get in the favour of the SP its still competition.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Bashir75:
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
LOOK IN YOUR HEART & IN THE MIRROR, YOU WILL SEE HATE AND BILES. THE ARROGANT OF THESE IPOBIANS AND AUDACITY TO TELL A PRIVATE INVESTORS WHERE TO PUT THEIR MONEY IS STAGGERING. HE WILL BUY CHEAP OIL FROM NIGER-DELTA AND SOUTHWEST. ALSO, IT WILL ONE DAY BE UNVEILED TO YOUR SHOCK THAT LAGOS HAS HUGE OIL DEPOSIT. THAT’S ANOTHE TOPIC FOR ANOTHER DAY.

BRO, REPAIR YOUR MINDSET AND REPAIR YOUR LIFE. HATE CONSUMES AND TURNS THE HATER INTO DEMON USELESS TO HIMSELF AND FAMILY.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by jaxxy(m): 10:08am On Jan 26, 2022
marsman:
You are wrong Mr, you can't call it a monopoly if he is not the only one in the business. Every business seek for favour here and there, especially with govt all over the world. Others should seek too, be friends with you have to friends, shake hands that has to be shaked so that, so that you all can compete on the same par level. You can't over rule the influence of the govt in a business mans life, this is what others are missing
Not when u use unfair leverages and government influence. Even if others are with u they are at ur mercy to be crushed and permitted to live not because of market forces bt unfair practices.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Nobody: 10:08am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
Make ipob/UGM/militant go blow am ba! undecided
Billions of dollars.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by aribisala0(m): 10:14am On Jan 26, 2022
angelfallz:
Made up my mind? how do you mean?

The first bolded,
Yes there are scenarios where Dangote would have to import crude. That is not what I am saying. What I am saying is, why would the importation of crude be a priority to him when there is already crude in Nigeria, which is closer and eliminates the need to transport it and driving down cost?

The second bolded,
That is true. But in the case of Nigeria I can't think of why Dangote would need to buy crude from other countries. Unless if you want to mention Niger Delta problems.
Clearly you have no knowledge of how the industry works
Crude oil is often sold on contracts. Sometimes called forward contracts up to 12 months or longer .
Sometimes prices crash but a refiner could be locked in to a contract at old prices. So depending on how Dangote runs his business he may benefit from non Nigerian oil
The oil n Nigeria belongs to companies just like Dangote is another company. Companies negotiate to sell oil and are at liberty to make deals with whom they please so Dangote does not have first refusal on Nigeria oil.
Yo u do not just turn up in the market tomorrow and take oil home the next day
If his facility has to shut down for 6 months for any reason what would the oil selling companies be doing. They would need guarantees or indemnity. Once you bring the oil out of the ground it costs money to store it every single day. So a refinery shut down is a risk the upstream sector don't want to share
You seem to think it is the government selling oil. No it is companies like Shell Mobil etc in collaboration with NNPC
do not forget that these businesses are potentially rivals of Dangote in the refining business
Some have their own refineries in other countries and potentially could make more money elsewhere
Also Dangote may be able to get cheaper oil than the Nigeria oil from time to time such deals happen.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Peace880(m): 10:14am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
Maybe you should help am call China mak dem cum shift am go Wia oyẹ dey shocked
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by dapolaw(m): 10:15am On Jan 26, 2022
When it favours them it's competence, but when it doesn't it's monopoly.







Nyanmiridunce:
But you didn't see anything wrong in a ibo-dominated super eagles oo. To you, that's not a monopoly. It's competence àbi?
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Budapestboy: 10:17am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
This is coming from a goat who has never made 10naira in business… keep advising a billionaire in dollars from your rat infested house… stupidity
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by dapolaw(m): 10:19am On Jan 26, 2022
Oga why you dey yarn rubbish, if Dangote bought BUA... Did anyone stops you from buying Dangote too if you have the resources?







jaxxy:
U don’t even has sense. Did Igbos day don’t bting Hausa or Yoruba players to the super eagles?? Ir don’t u know what monopoly is?

Allow me to do this and block other people. Not I’m the best so I’m doing this and let anybody good also do it.

Dangote fought bua over cement are u happy with that??

Oga receive sense ooo.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Nobody: 10:19am On Jan 26, 2022
jaxxy:
Igbos love dangote.
What! Say that again cheesy grin

Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by angelfallz(m): 10:20am On Jan 26, 2022
Thank you for your explanation.

aribisala0:
Clearly you have no knowledge of how the industry works
Crude oil is often sold on contracts. Sometimes called forward contracts up to 12 months or longer .
Sometimes prices crash but a refiner could be locked in to a contract at old prices. So depending on how Dangote runs his business he may benefit from non Nigerian oil
The oil n Nigeria belongs to companies just like Dangote is another company. Companies negotiate to sell oil and are at liberty to make deals with whom they please so Dangote does not have first refusal on Nigeria oil.
Yo u do not just turn up in the market tomorrow and take oil home the next day
If his facility has to shut down for 6 months for any reason what would the oil selling companies be doing. They would need guarantees or indemnity. Once you bring the oil out of the ground it costs money to store it every single day. So a refinery shut down is a risk the upstream sector don't want to share
You seem to think it is the government selling oil. No it is companies like Shell Mobil etc in collaboration with NNPC
do not forget that these businesses are potentially rivals of Dangote in the refining business
Some have their own refineries in other countries and potentially could make more money elsewhere
Also Dangote may be able to get cheaper oil than the Nigeria oil from time to time such deals happen.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Chimookigwe: 10:22am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
This jealousy and hatred is why your mates have left you far behind. You will always serve those lesser than you and always struggle to make it.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by jaxxy(m): 10:23am On Jan 26, 2022
dapolaw:
Oga why you dey yarn rubbish, if Dangote bought BUA... Did anyone stops you from buying Dangote too if you have the resources?
He didn’t buy bua. He attacked him using his unfair influences if bua was weak in government backing he would have gone out of business just for trying to compete in same business with dangote.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by alizma: 10:24am On Jan 26, 2022
SarkinYarki:
Where will he get crude from?
Let that be his headache
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by barcaboi(m): 10:26am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
Can’t y’all stop the nagging. Ondo and Ogun were at the forefront and the deal collapsed; Lagos was a last minute entrant. Don’t let Lagos give u headache
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by dapolaw(m): 10:27am On Jan 26, 2022
Every businessman or woman must learn how to play politics in business, it's a norm... Even in the office there's politics.






jaxxy:
He didn’t buy bua. He attacked him using his unfair influences if bua was weak in government backing he would have gone out of business just for trying to compete in same business with dangote.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by SarkinYarki: 10:27am On Jan 26, 2022
alizma:
Let that be his headache
Sharap
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Basic123: 10:27am On Jan 26, 2022
CUMIN:
Refinery can be sited anywhere. Those locations in the SS he intended the governors were very greedy. They want shares without paid up capital.

He proposed to the then Ondo governor same thing happened.

When he approached Lagos government they inclined to his demand.

One thing you need to know is that this particular refinery doesn't only refine the light sweet crude we have in Nigeria.

He had factored the greedy nature of the niger-delta that is why this project was designed to refine heavy crude oil from other part of Africa like Angola which is less than 2000km from Lagos.

Kudos to Alhaji dangote the black yansh billionaire.
Kudos to Lagos state government.
Please also add KUDOS TINUBU AND FASHOLA

I HATE IT WHEN TINUBU ACHIEVEMENT IS BEING DOWNPLAYED.I FOLLOWED DANGOTE REGINERY SICE 2011.IT WAS TINUBU AND FASHOLA THAT ACTUALLY VISITED DANGOTE TO WOE HIM!....
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by marsman: 10:28am On Jan 26, 2022
jaxxy:
Not when u use unfair leverages and government influence. Even if others are with u they are at ur mercy to be crushed and permitted to live not because of market forces bt unfair practices.
He has leverage the others too should get. People are allowed to play dirty as long as it isn't illegal. Most of his opportunity now are because of the deals and contract he has made and won from the govt while others were still lagging. Even this country's we call developed are you saying there are businesses that are not favoured by their govt. Thats actually one of the qualities of an entrepreneur looking beyond the scope that others don't see. I don't think others are even ready too compete lol because when you start thinking this and that is unfair instead of looking for opportunity you will soon run out of business
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by Babisha10(m): 10:31am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
So that if u people finally get Biafra, then he loose it abi? Why didn't u mention port Harcourt, Delta or Akwa ibom cos they has oil more than lmo...
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by jaxxy(m): 10:33am On Jan 26, 2022
marsman:
He has leverage the others too should get. People are allowed to play dirty as long as it isn't illegal. Most of his opportunity now are because of the deals and contract he has made and won from the govt while others were still lagging. Even this country's we call developed are you saying there are businesses that are not favoured by their govt. Thats actually one of the qualities of an entrepreneur looking beyond the scope that others don't see. I don't think others are even ready too compete lol because when you start thinking this and that is unfair instead of looking for opportunity you will soon run out of business
Monopoly is not illegal until it becomes destructive to society actually. And yes it is monopoly using government and unfair leverages. The normal thing is for government to regulate It and help smaller ones have same opportunity the big ones had when they were also small.

Not allowing them to have that is destructive monopoly.
Re: Dangote Refinery: Roaring To Life On The Lagos Blue Sky by effiency01(m): 10:35am On Jan 26, 2022
JavaScript90:
Great. But this project should be sited at a major oil producing state like Imo state with the likes of shell anoh gas project not at Lagos. He should source for his oil from the 30 liters of oil Lagos produce. SMH for NIGERIA
Insecurity is a serious challenge in oil producing states, no smart investor will invest such in that area.
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