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Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by FERNANDEZISBACK: 1:08pm On Feb 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
ATHEISTS!
I know you guys are saying all these in order for someone to take you to where you can get the confirm one but nobody will show you where original money ritual could be found so doubt it from today till you die money ritual is real but those giving out the riches (Satan, demons and their human agents) deal with people on various levels.
For example all what Jesus need to do before Satan will give him all the riches in the world and their glory is just to bow down and worship Satan! Luke 4:5-7
But to humans who don't know how much that could mean Satan will demand something else, all he wanted is to make his costumer admit that you must turn your back on God.

So it's not the human body parts that's of any value in the spirit realms but your integrity as human to be destroyed as in kill your conscience so that you feel like doing anything even if it will make God annoyed after all He (God) hasn't given you what you want. That's the secret! wink
No atheist can get such opportunity from Satan because you're worthless already before God unlike a faithful believer whose existence meant so much to the true God! Job 1:8 smiley
Haha prove and stop bleating around.. grin
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Fortune109(m): 1:11pm On Feb 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
ATHEISTS!
I know you guys are saying all these in order for someone to take you to where you can get the confirm one but nobody will show you where original money ritual could be found so doubt it from today till you die money ritual is real but those giving out the riches (Satan, demons and their human agents) deal with people on various levels.
For example all what Jesus need to do before Satan will give him all the riches in the world and their glory is just to bow down and worship Satan! Luke 4:5-7
But to humans who don't know how much that could mean Satan will demand something else, all he wanted is to make his costumer admit that you must turn your back on God.

So it's not the human body parts that's of any value in the spirit realms but your integrity as human to be destroyed as in kill your conscience so that you feel like doing anything even if it will make God annoyed after all He (God) hasn't given you what you want. That's the secret! wink
No atheist can get such opportunity from Satan because you're worthless already before God unlike a faithful believer whose existence meant so much to the true God! Job 1:8 smiley
Nailed it!
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by aribisala0(m): 1:13pm On Feb 03, 2022
Awoleesu:
Oga, my post was done with the general audience in mind!
Like I did point out to you in my first rejoinder, I didn't go all out to be grammatically correct as the subject under discussion was more of generic than bespoke.

But since you chose to dot mine out for an academic scrutiny, you may please note that I've since updated the post.

Thanks anyway.
You are mixing it up.

This is nothing to do with grammar or semantics and you are misusing those terms

If Your name is Wale and I call you Wole
correction is not grammar or semantics

When white folk call you Nigger you are right to demur

so just lumping people together and giving them a name for YOUR convenience and by this I am not talking about you but anyone,
is disrespectful. It says you are too small to be taken seriously.
If an English person calls Yoruba native or traditional it is not sematics or grammar it is attitudinal
For me his English is native not my Yoruba
So this is about acknowledgement and respect

It is this same lumping together that gets us to this place where Ifa is being associated with anything that is not mainstream

It is not a trivial matter as you want to play it
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Awoleesu(m): 1:22pm On Feb 03, 2022
aribisala0:
You are mixing it up.

This is nothing to do with grammar or semantics and you are misusing those terms

If Your name is Wale and I call you Wole
correction is not grammar or semantics

When white folk call you Nigger you are right to demur

so just lumping people together and giving them a name for YOUR convenience and by this I am not talking about you but anyone,
is disrespectful. It says you are too small to be taken seriously.
If an English person calls Yoruba native or traditional it is not sematics or grammar it is attitudinal
For me his English is native not my Yoruba
So this is about acknowledgement and respect

It is this same lumping together that gets us to this place where Ifa is being associated with anything that is not mainstream

It is not a trivial matter as you want to play it
Well, I see you are really bent on getting me to acknowledge you're right against me! I have no qualms bending to your views since I am not as versed as you are in the study of the aboriginal religions.
So, at the risk of expanding this argument beyond reasonable limits or derailing the original post for the matter, I admit you're right!
Ba shikenan ba?

Oya rest!
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Prisco4luv(m): 1:23pm On Feb 03, 2022
Liars
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:26pm On Feb 03, 2022
Happinessabd:
comrade you too much
Fortune109:
Nailed it!
Please don't let anyone deceive you, money ritual is REAL but it's the proceedings that's difficult due to the target of the spirits involved.
Most people don't know that all what they need to get such riches is to prove how desperately they are willing to let go of anything in exchange for wealth. Revelations 13:16-18

It's just a pity that no one claiming atheist can get it, even those who don't believe in God but disguising among true believers can't make it because Satan doesn't need their souls, the souls precious to the forces of light and darkness are the loyal ones and since an atheist is not loyal to anyone those demons see them exactly the same way Jesus views them: "WALKING CORPSE" Matthew 8:22

But whenever a true believer falls spiritually all the demons are ready to grab him and give him anything he wish as long as he will vow with his life never to return to Jesus. As for anyone without faith even if he/she is invited among them they're going to make use of his or her body parts there! undecided
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by aribisala0(m): 1:35pm On Feb 03, 2022
Awoleesu:
Well, I see you are really bent on getting me to acknowledge you're right against me! I have no qualms bending to your views since I am not as versed as you are in the study of the aboriginal religions.
So, at the risk of expanding this argument beyond reasonable limits or derailing the original post for the matter, I admit you're right!
Ba shikenan ba?

Oya rest!
What is an "aboriginal religion" Is there any religion that is not aboriginal? What is the difference between the two


I really do not give a shit what you acknowledge I am more interested in making the point for others on the thread especially those whose minds can still be redeemed from colonizaton
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Openyamind111(m): 1:59pm On Feb 03, 2022
Funny how most of these people are quoting this man wrongfully when you guys don’t even know what Ifa is all about.. Ifa Arinu Rode Olumonron Okan... just as we have fake prophets been caught using human part for money rituals.. we have seen Alfas using human part for money rituals.. we have someone traditional worshipers using human parts for money rituals.. Ifa is our heritage and our form of belief as Yorubas before your colonial masters came with their belief and have it imposed on us to their advantage. Anyone who have a clear knowledge of what IFA is all about will agree with him.. Orunmila aagbe wa oo.. if you know you know..
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by fredoooooo: 2:00pm On Feb 03, 2022
Ifa different from isegun ...
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Empiree: 2:07pm On Feb 03, 2022
Truthisunique3:
Yoruba Muslim no go hear this one
what's Muslims have to do with this if I may ask?
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by fredoooooo: 2:07pm On Feb 03, 2022
Chrizzz:
I didn’t read the article but the heading is what I will talk about
Are they denying those bastards posting on social media about ways to do oshole as non traditional worshipers?
Well my belief is my belief...
Thats isegun not ifa
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Awoleesu(m): 2:12pm On Feb 03, 2022
aribisala0:
What is an "aboriginal religion" Is there any religion that is not aboriginal? What is the difference between the two


I really do not give a shit what you acknowledge I am more interested in making the point for others on the thread especially those whose minds can still be redeemed from colonizaton
Check aboriginal vs revealed religion...
No time for aroye repete!


BTW, I didn't suspect from the onset this argument was headed for a racial conclusion! shocked
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by JuanDeDios: 2:16pm On Feb 03, 2022
SarkinYarki:
Believe this at your own peril
The man is not lying in saying that Ifa forbids bloodshed. Most deities/societies do. But human sacrifice exists in Yoruba tradition. So if Dasola and his group are serious, they should work for a reformation of Oro and similar societies that still kill people for their faith.
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by JuanDeDios: 2:18pm On Feb 03, 2022
twosquare:
It is true. There is also a verse in Ifa corpus in Ìròsùn Méjì (I think) that warns against the fast lane life or get-rich-quick syndrome:

A fipá wá owó,
Wọn kì ń káádún,
A fi wàrà wàrà wá ọrọ̀ bí ológun,
Wọn ki n dọ̀la...



Those who seek money with violence (or by force),
Do not last the year,
Those who are hasty to gather wealth like a warrior,
Do not endure till tomorrow/future...






People should know there is a difference between Babalawo, Onisegun, Adahunse, and the rest. It is like a priest, an healer, an inventor, etc (Doctor, Pharmacist, etc.). Of course, some can double as both, but a genuine Ifa priest is not into ritual stuff. His main purpose is to guide you through the oracle what you should do to have a headway. Often, the instructions will not be heeded to, thereby, making some look for a shortcut.

Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams
.

Not everyone can obey spiritual instructions, no matter how simple it looks. Some require humility. Imagine being told to go into a business people look down on....
Yes, Ifa is against human sacrifice, but Yoruba tradition is not. We need to admits some truths to ourselves and work for reforms.
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by merits(m): 2:20pm On Feb 03, 2022
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Big fallacy.without human parts it can't work.useless people.
No short cut to success in life.work hard and enjoy your hard earned money simple as that.

Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Nobody: 2:22pm On Feb 03, 2022
Alot of nigerians fall into these scams of so called money ritual. Due to greed, desparations, ignorance, poverty and lack of educations, when people have all these problems they are ussually easily scammed into believing that some rubbish called ritual will make them rich.


The only ritual that will give you money or make you rich is WORK as soon as nigerians get this into their heads alot of lives will be saved otherwise the senseless ritual killings will continue.
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by statutory: 2:28pm On Feb 03, 2022
All ifa priest should come out and collectively curse anyone who attempt to use human being for money ritual.
This was what oba of benin did to anyone who attempt to use girls for runs in Europe.
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Nobody: 2:29pm On Feb 03, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
Haha prove and stop bleating around.. grin
Don't mind the ignoramus. grin
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by FERNANDEZISBACK: 2:31pm On Feb 03, 2022
gypsey:
Don't mind the ignoramus. grin
The guy sef ehnn
.
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by seyz91(m): 2:33pm On Feb 03, 2022
Confirm!
dollynnn:
sad
As if some of them have not been doing it for people.
Anyway,the rate at which money rituals is skyrocketing is alarming and dangerous!
Females, especially , are now endangered species which may soon go into extinction if care is not taken. Government should clamp down on all these ritualists disguising as "yahoo-boys" and effect the arrest of these useless herbalists under whatever shade of disguise they have hidden themselves. People should report suspicious activities to the Police too.
Females should also do the needful.
And lastly, parents should wake up and be more responsive and alive to the huge responsibilities on their shoulders . Illegal wealth or ill-gotten wealth should not in any way be encouraged.
.

Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by cooltola(m):
Yahoo, ritualism, blood money is not new in Nigeria. The only things that is new is social media and how ills of the society is displayed day and night on social media. Back in the days, it was the cocaine transport business, today is yahoo and ritualism, criminals will always be criminals. It is up to you to choose if you are going to get oppressed when criminals flaunt their wealth on the gram, the club and so forth. For own advice, Stay away from people with questionable source of income who display their wealth anyhow. There is nothing wrong to be rich, but make you that when you have money, you have a reliable and legit source. An undergraduate suddenly become extremely rich is questionable except he won the lottery or he gained an inheritance from a rich relative
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by seyz91(m): 2:33pm On Feb 03, 2022
cheesy
SarkinYarki:
Believe this at your own peril
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Nobody: 2:33pm On Feb 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
ATHEISTS!
I know you guys are saying all these in order for someone to take you to where you can get the confirm one but nobody will show you where original money ritual could be found so doubt it from today till you die money ritual is real but those giving out the riches (Satan, demons and their human agents) deal with people on various levels.
For example all what Jesus need to do before Satan will give him all the riches in the world and their glory is just to bow down and worship Satan! Luke 4:5-7
But to humans who don't know how much that could mean Satan will demand something else, all he wanted is to make his costumer admit that you must turn your back on God.

So it's not the human body parts that's of any value in the spirit realms but your integrity as human to be destroyed as in kill your conscience so that you feel like doing anything even if it will make God annoyed after all He (God) hasn't given you what you want. That's the secret! wink
No atheist can get such opportunity from Satan because you're worthless already before God unlike a faithful believer whose existence meant so much in the eyes of the true God! Job 1:8 smiley
Absolute! Rubbish! you cannot proof any of these crap, all these made up crap will not be accepted in a law court you need to provide evidence. Otherwise they are all imaginations in your head.
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:34pm On Feb 03, 2022
gypsey:
Don't mind the ignoramus. grin
Even if you want to do it the spirits involved won't sign you in because they have a target in which you can't fit in! smiley
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by seyz91(m): 2:34pm On Feb 03, 2022
Lies from pit of hell

These ones can't even lie well, they don't know how to do the damage control so well at all
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Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:35pm On Feb 03, 2022
gypsey:
Absolute! Rubbish! you cannot proof any of these crap, all these made up crap will not be accepted in a law court you need to provide evidence. Otherwise they are all imaginations in your head.
Clap for yourself! cheesy
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Nobody: 2:39pm On Feb 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Clap for yourself! cheesy
It would help if you put what you mean in words, atleast so i can understand what exactly you mean.
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Nobody: 2:41pm On Feb 03, 2022
yusluvad:
Prince have said it all. ...'It is only God that giveth wealth, without adding sorrow.'

...'Remember the Lord your God, for it is He that giveth the power, to get wealth.'


Youths, let's be guided.

Girls, be careful and vigilant, don't let greediness, coveteousness, we-have-arive, and fake lifestyle to shorten your glorious and beautiful life...
Buzz off!
There's no God anywhere.
Life's a purely game of chance, Luck, and Fortune.
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Nobody: 2:44pm On Feb 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Even if you want to do it the spirits involved won't sign you in because they have a target in which you can't fit in! smiley
Yea! Keep telling yourself that rubbish, have you ever seen a spirit? grin what kinda beer does a spirit drinks? Is it an American spirit or a German spirit? grin i have been looking every where for spirits al my life i still haven't met one forking spirit.

Inbox me, i will meet up with you so you can show me this guy called spirit i am desparate to meet her or is it him? If you cannot do that then......
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Nobody: 2:48pm On Feb 03, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
The guy sef ehnn
.
They keep making up all that crap when you push them for proofs they run.


I ve told them that i will bring a dozen human heads to them where ever they want so they can show me how that shit is done and proofs that it works they always just kept beating about the bush
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by FERNANDEZISBACK: 2:49pm On Feb 03, 2022
gypsey:
They keep making up all that crap when you push them for proofs they run.


I ve told them that i will bring a dozen human heads to them where ever they want so they can show me how that shit is done and proofs that it works they always just kept beating about the bush
You are hilarious tho..
Wait do you really mean the bolded? shocked
Re: Ifa Oracle Against Use Of Human Parts To Make Wealth - Nigerian Traditionalists by Nobody: 2:53pm On Feb 03, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
You are hilarious tho..
Wait do you really mean the bolded? shocked
Yes! I do! try me and see! This is what some of you don't get!

I want to witness this so call ritual money so that people like you will not keep coming on here to peddle your bloody lies.
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