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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by maximunimpact(m): 7:35am On Oct 14, 2018
OneJ:
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U falsely claimed "that JWs will rather consult idol than pray for miracles..."
(asuustrike1 has already faulted your fallacy )
Ogidigan of lie lie.

Hahahahahaha!!!!!

Pls do not harden your heart (Hebr12:1).
Return to JEHOVAH, like the prodigal son.
Shalom.
I still maintain my claims because they're all my personal experience... you guyz will rather consult idols than seek miracles with prayers..deal with it. Besides some of your elders are wizards.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by OneJ: 10:33am On Nov 03, 2018
maximunimpact:
I still maintain my claims because they're all my personal experience... you guyz will rather consult idols than seek miracles with prayers..deal with it. Besides some of your elders are wizards.
Fallacy of generalization.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by maximunimpact(m): 3:05pm On Nov 03, 2018
OneJ:
Fallacy of generalization.
the same way u guys generalized that all non witnesses are apostates
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Chapy9billion: 10:29pm On Jun 25, 2019
The Jehovah's witnesses you are castigating here are 100% better than you and any religion today. I have seen, heard and read on newspapers of pastors, imams, atheist and every other religion except Jehovah's witnesses that are involved in greater crimes of ritual killings, mob actions, extortion, stealing, manipulation, kidnapping. I'm yet to see one Jehovah's witnesses in the news for crime committed. Jesus said you will be hated on account of my name, Jehovah witnesses are the most hated people on earth, yet they don't kill, fight, participate in wars, collect tithes and offerings (like your criminal pastors) or even join politics. Please leave them alone, they are the only group of people living truly like Jesus Christ
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Nobody: 11:41am On Jun 26, 2019
Jesus said many will PERFORM mighty works in his name and he will say to them, 'I never knew you depart from me you workers of iniquity' Matthew 7:21-23

So a shrewd student will be attentive to what exactly INIQUITY means and how avoid it completely {2Corinthians 6:17} NOT to miracles that Jesus himself have declared as having nothing to do with salvation! 1Corinthians 13:1-2
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by dogooder: 10:37am On Feb 09, 2022
rottennaija:
Who tells you Satan is interested in silencing them? Why would he when they are doing what he wants them to do and believed? Why should he?

When JWs have doctrines that are contrary to the Bible and are false, who are they serving?
List their satanic doctrines you know one after the other and support your points with bible
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by rottennaija(m): 1:14pm On Feb 09, 2022
dogooder:
List their satanic doctrines you know one after the other and support your points with bible
Jesus is not the mediator of millions of humans or the great crowd but only for the 14400.
Great crowd is on earth.
Only 144000 are children of God.
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other ancient servants are going to resurrect on earth.
Little flock is 144000 while other sheep is great crowd.
Only 144000 are born again.
The Watchtower organisation is God's channel on earth.

I'll stop there.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Feb 09, 2022
rottennaija:
Jesus is not the mediator of millions of humans or the great crowd but only for the 14400.
Great crowd is on earth.
Only 144000 are children of God.
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other ancient servants are going to resurrect on earth.
Little flock is 144000 while other sheep is great crowd.
Only 144000 are born again.
The Watchtower organisation is God's channel on earth.
I'll stop there.
And did they back up all these with the Bible? smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by rottennaija(m): 2:53pm On Feb 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
And did they back up all these with the Bible? smiley
I don't need to. These are the beliefs JWs have which you are aware of and they do not have scriptural backing. I want to belief you must have gone through my posts, you will see a lot of these discussed.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:36pm On Feb 09, 2022
rottennaija:
I don't need to. These are the beliefs JWs have which you are aware of and they do not have scriptural backing. I want to belief you must have gone through my posts, you will see a lot of these discussed.
Guy stop deceiving yourself, i was a stubborn Muslim but everything the JWs believe was proven beyond reasonable doubts that's why i succumb to the teachings.
You can ask me any question here now on this neutral ground and let's see who is lying! smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by achorladey: 4:39pm On Feb 09, 2022
rottennaija:
I don't need to. These are the beliefs JWs have which you are aware of and they do not have scriptural backing. I want to belief you must have gone through my posts, you will see a lot of these discussed.
Where in the Bible did it states Jesus is the mediator for only 144,000

This question should be enough. grin

I have equally asked where in the Bible is Russell the Messenger described in Malachi 3:1 grin grin grin

Na to look elsewhere.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by achorladey: 4:43pm On Feb 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
And did they back up all these with the Bible? smiley
The below is enough. Just one scripture will do as proof grin grin grin

The Watchtower organisation is God's channel on earth.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:57pm On Feb 09, 2022
achorladey:
The below is enough. Just one scripture will do as proof grin grin grin
My disguised fan, i know you're trailing me up and down on this forum but let it be between rottennaija and i for the moment.
Thanks for trailing me i really appreciate! smiley cheesy
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by cornelboy(f): 5:31pm On Feb 09, 2022
rottennaija:
Jesus is not the mediator of millions of humans or the great crowd but only for the 14400.
Great crowd is on earth.
Only 144000 are children of God.
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other ancient servants are going to resurrect on earth.
Little flock is 144000 while other sheep is great crowd.
Only 144000 are born again.
The Watchtower organisation is God's channel on earth.

I'll stop there.
Are these what you called satanic doctrines?

If you're really looking for church organization with satanic doctrines, i think you should look elsewhere grin

Like the Catholics that TAKE VIRGIN MARY, a mere human AS THE MOTHER OF GOD .
They even worship statues and have all sort of lawless practices.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:39pm On Feb 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Are these what you called satanic doctrines?
If you're really looking for church organization with satanic doctrines, i think you should look elsewhere grin
Like the Catholics that TAKE VIRGIN MARY, a mere human AS THE MOTHER OF GOD .
They even worship statues and have all sort of lawless practices.
Jesus said:

Let your light shine before all men! Matthew 5:14-16

Chapy9billion:
The Jehovah's witnesses you are castigating here are 100% better than you and any religion today. I have seen, heard and read on newspapers of pastors, imams, atheist and every other religion except Jehovah's witnesses that are involved in greater crimes of ritual killings, mob actions, extortion, stealing, manipulation, kidnapping. I'm yet to see one Jehovah's witnesses in the news for crime committed. Jesus said you will be hated on account of my name, Jehovah witnesses are the most hated people on earth, yet they don't kill, fight, participate in wars, collect tithes and offerings (like your criminal pastors) or even join politics. Please leave them alone, they are the only group of people living truly like Jesus Christ
Even if they failed to accept the truth others will see the light from far distance! smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by rottennaija(m): 6:11pm On Feb 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Guy stop deceiving yourself, i was a stubborn Muslim but everything the JWs believe was proven beyond reasonable doubts that's why i succumb to the teachings.
You can ask me any question here now on this neutral ground and let's see who is lying! smiley
See the bolded? Even the hell fire believe can also be backed with the scriptures beyond reasonable doubt. The Doctrine that Jesus is God can also be back up beyond reasonable doubts in the scriptures.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31pm On Feb 09, 2022
rottennaija:
See the bolded? Even the hell fire believe can also be backed with the scriptures beyond reasonable doubt. The Doctrine that Jesus is God can also be back up beyond reasonable doubts in the scriptures.
I thought you're talking about their teachings not backed up with the scriptures, if it's about arguments then know that it's not only JWs that doesn't agree with HellFire teachings and JWs never denied that Jesus is a God for it is written in their Bible.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by cornelboy(f): 7:37pm On Feb 09, 2022
Yeah it's not only the JWs that don't agree with hell fire dogma.
I know some US pastors that were removed from office because they told their congregation that Hell didn't exist but imaginary.

MaxInDHouse:
I thought you're talking about their teachings not backed up with the scriptures, if it's about arguments then know that it's not only JWs that doesn't agree with HellFire teachings and JWs never denied that Jesus is a God for it is written in their Bible.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:09pm On Feb 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Yeah it's not only the JWs that don't agree with hell fire dogma.
I know some US pastors that were removed from office because they told their congregation that Hell didn't exist but imaginary.
Thank you o!
I wonder what the Apostates will say about such people who have made their research regarding the doctrine of Hellfire.
I wasn't comfortable myself with this teaching when i was still a Muslim but i don't have any options, i know everlasting life could logically be a gift to the righteous and not the wicked! smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by achorladey: 8:30pm On Feb 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
My disguised fan, i know you're trailing me up and down on this forum but let it be between rottennaija and i for the moment.
Thanks for trailing me i really appreciate! smiley cheesy
Baba wa fan?

The below that requires just a Bible verse to prove abi proof ni....

The Watchtower organisation is God's channel on earth.
Is the cause behind your looking for a fan grin

Baba sebi fan wa ni ile yin grin grin

Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by achorladey: 8:33pm On Feb 09, 2022
rottennaija:
See the bolded? Even the hell fire believe can also be backed with the scriptures beyond reasonable doubt. The Doctrine that Jesus is God can also be back up beyond reasonable doubts in the scriptures.
You are giving him room to wriggle grin grin.
Allow him to keep looking for fan when the question gets locked in. grin
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Emusan(m): 9:04pm On Feb 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Guy stop deceiving yourself,
When it's evident that you're the one deceiving yourself grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

i was a stubborn Muslim but everything the JWs believe was proven beyond reasonable doubts that's why i succumb to the teachings.
So because you fall for the lies of JWs as you're unable to read the word of God yourself as a Muslim everyone must follow you to succumb cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

You can ask me any question here now on this neutral ground and let's see who is lying! smiley
Many questions you've been asked several times without straight forward answer, in which you even created a thread for. After Mumbo Jumbo of fruitless arguments, you abandoned and started Part 2 of which you have to start quoting yourself when you didn't see anyone to argue with including your deluded brothers grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

We know how it goes cool cool cool
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Emusan(m): 9:09pm On Feb 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Yeah it's not only the JWs that don't agree with hell fire dogma.
That means not only JWs that have the truth grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Confusion and denial will start now

I know some US pastors that were removed from office because they told their congregation that Hell didn't exist but imaginary.
So are those PASTORS now part of JWs for knowing the truth?

Lemme take a sit and watch grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:14pm On Feb 09, 2022
Our fans are back on track! smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by cornelboy(f): 10:48pm On Feb 09, 2022
That means not only JWs that have the truth grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Lol it a joy for me that some could see the truth even without being a JW. Unlike people like you grin grin

I only said hell fire not the whole TRUTH

Confusion and denial will start now
For your side Abi cheesy grin

So are those PASTORS now part of JWs for knowing the truth?
Lol I'm not a JW yet grin

Lemme take a sit and watch grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
You fit de sip your alcohol while sitting cool

[quote author=Emusan post=110099541][/quote]
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by rottennaija(m): 6:04am On Feb 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I thought you're talking about their teachings not backed up with the scriptures, if it's about arguments then know that it's not only JWs that doesn't agree with HellFire teachings and JWs never denied that Jesus is a God for it is written in their Bible.
Pick any activities, "like banning singing laughing on Sunday" or "the clapping of hands when a disfellowship person is reinstated" and you will see religious leaders and teachers providing "proves beyond reasonable doubts" why those activities are unscriptural and you see the members claiming their have proven beyond reasonable doubts why does events are unscriptural.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by achorladey:
Emusan:
That means not only JWs that have the truth grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Confusion and denial will start now



So are those PASTORS now part of JWs for knowing the truth?

Lemme take a sit and watch grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
That means not only JWs that have the truth
It is the same people they will call dishonesthearted when they don't dance to what they call truth in another case.

So are those PASTORS now part of JWs for knowing the truth?
Make I help you answer. Jehovah’s witnesses are known with the common saying of "are in the truth" "nje o wa ninu otito".

But the pastors here cannot be called Jehovah’s witnesses or said to be in the truth simply because they have not decided to render complete trust and submission to the 8 men leading the religious organization since it was they say that is truth is truth not what the Bible says. grin grin
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:32am On Feb 10, 2022
rottennaija:
Pick any activities, "like banning singing laughing on Sunday" or "the clapping of hands when a disfellowship person is reinstated" and you will see religious leaders and teachers providing "proves beyond reasonable doubts" why those activities are unscriptural and you see the members claiming their have proven beyond reasonable doubts why does events are unscriptural.
Please go straight to your point, i wasn't born a JW, i'm a convert and i've not seen anything they practice that's out of the scriptures so what exactly do you think JWs are doing that's not scriptural? smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by rottennaija(m): 8:40am On Feb 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Please go straight to your point, i wasn't born a JW, i'm a convert and i've not seen anything they practice that's out of the scriptures so what exactly do you think JWs are doing that's not scriptural? smiley
It seems you didn't read any of the things I posted.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by cornelboy(f):
Baba learn how to follow discussion. cheesy

How on earth will they be called JWs when they are literally not JWS?

Finding out that Hell didn't exist is not the whole Bible truth. So they are literally not in the Truth.

Are saying these pastors that don't agree with hell fire doctrine are not following the Bible after all?

I don't even know these 8 men your talking about and I've not decided to completely submit to them
grin grin grin cheesy

achorladey:
But the pastors here cannot be called Jehovah’s witnesses or said to be in the truth simply because they have not decided to render complete trust and submission to the 8 men leading the religious organization since it was they say that is truth is truth not what the Bible says. grin grin
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:50am On Feb 10, 2022
rottennaija:
It seems you didn't read any of the things I posted.
You should know through my post that i'm not that good in English language so can you just mention one thing JWs practices that they can't back it up with the scriptures?
Thanks in advance!
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:56am On Feb 10, 2022
cornelboy:
Baba learn how to follow discussion. cheesy

I don't even know this 8 men your talking about and I've not decided to completely submit to them
grin grin grin cheesy
They think by mentioning the group name of those overseeing the organization will irritate a honest hearted individual who is interested in fine WORKS! Matthew 7:16-18

Whether they're 3, 6, 12 or 55 old men from Togo, is it not the result of their teachings that matters?
Do i know any Jesus from Nazareth (Israel) before i accepted his teachings?
You see these Apostates and their thinking at times do amuse me walahi talahi! smiley
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