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I laugh too at their reasoning

If not for the efforts of the Bible students who came together to expose false doctrine of religion, i would still be in confusion till now.


"You will know the truth and the truth will make you free". This verse has a practical effect on my life.
Thank Jah for the JWs. I might still be in confusion till now because it wasn't easy for me to figure it all out myself. I'd been fed with too much lies.

MaxInDHouse:
They think by mentioning the group name of those overseeing the organization will irritate a honest hearted individual who is interested in fine WORKS! Matthew 7:16-18

Whether they're 3, 6, 12 or 55 old men from Togo, is it not the result of their teachings that matters?
Do i know any Jesus from Nazareth (Israel) before i accepted his teachings?
You see these Apostates and their thinking at times do amuse me walahi talahi!

cornelboy:
I laugh too at their reasoning
If not for the efforts of the Bible students who came together to expose false doctrine of religion, i would still be in confusion till now.

"You will know the truth and the truth will make you free". This verse has a practical effect on my life.
Thank Jah for the JWs. I might still be in confusion till now because it wasn't easy for me to figure it all out myself. I'd been fed with too much lies.

The highlighted often makes me pray each morning for those guys who used to come both rain and sunshine even when i just don't feel like seeing them they refused to give up on me!
That's why i always say:
"Jehovah's Witnesses, my God will continue to bless you guys for locating me"
How would i have figured out all the lies Satan fabricated and fed billions until JWs began spreading the Good News of God's kingdom?
The last time a misinformed churchgoer came to my house to preach i welcomed him and asked him to preach what the Bible called GOOD NEWS to me, it was really hilarious because he knew nothing other than "Heaven is real, Hell is real"
So i asked him further "is that what Jesus called the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom?
What exactly is good about this your Heaven is real, Hell is real stuff?"
My friend said i'm mocking God, that's when my wife told him he's the one mocking his God as he couldn't figure out any tangible thing to say about his God!

I have a Muslim friend. I think I'll start disturbing him make him know the truth.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted often makes me pray each morning for those guys who used to come both rain and sunshine even when i just don't feel like seeing them they refused to give up on me!
That's why i always say:
"Jehovah's Witnesses, my God will continue to bless you guys for locating me"
How would i have figured out all the lies Satan fabricated and fed billions until JWs began spreading the Good News of God's kingdom?
The last time a misinformed churchgoer came to my house to preach i welcomed him and asked him to preach what the Bible called GOOD NEWS to me, it was really hilarious because he knew nothing other than "Heaven is real, Hell is real"
So i asked him further "is that what Jesus called the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom?
What exactly is good about this your Heaven is real, Hell is real stuff?"
My friend said i'm mocking God, that's when my wife told him he's the one mocking his God as he couldn't figure out any tangible thing to say about his God!

MaxInDHouse:
You should know through my post that i'm not that good in English language so can you just mention one thing JWs practices that they can't back it up with the scriptures?
Thanks in advance!

It's a pity you think I follow your post. I don't. I had listed doctrines and beliefs of the JW that are not of Christian origin, it does not mean they cannot use scriptures to back it up, rightly or wrongly.

Here is the deal MaxInDHouse, if you Pick any activities, "like banning singing laughing on Sunday" or "the clapping of hands when a disfellowship person is reinstated" and you will see religious leaders and teachers providing "proves beyond reasonable doubts" why those activities are unscriptural and you see the members claiming their have proven beyond reasonable doubts why does events are unscriptural.

The point is, anything can be backed up from the Bible, rightly or wrongly. Even the teaching of hell fire is backed up in the Bible.

Do you get it now?

LIE!

The TRUTH is one. Suffering after death in Hell Fire can't be backed with the Bible.

Hell didn't exist. It was invented by religion.

rottennaija:
It's a pity you think I follow your post. I don't. I had listed doctrines and beliefs of the JW that are not of Christian origin, it does not mean they cannot use scriptures to back it up, rightly or wrongly.

Here is the deal MaxInDHouse, if you Pick any activities, "like banning singing laughing on Sunday" or "the clapping of hands when a disfellowship person is reinstated" and you will see religious leaders and teachers providing "proves beyond reasonable doubts" why those activities are unscriptural and you see the members claiming their have proven beyond reasonable doubts why does events are unscriptural.

The point is, anything can be backed up from the Bible, rightly or wrongly. Even the teaching of hell fire is backed up in the Bible.

Do you get it now?

cornelboy:
Baba learn how to follow discussion.

How on earth will they be called JWs when they are literally not JWS?

Finding out that Hell didn't exist is not the whole Bible truth. So they are literally not in the Truth.

Are saying these pastors that don't agree with hell fire doctrine are not following the Bible after all?

I don't even know these 8 men your talking about and I've not decided to completely submit to them

See the person asking me to learn. Here are your words below....

How on earth will they be called JWs when they are literally not JWS?

Here is what you respond to once more

But the pastors here cannot be called Jehovah’s witnesses or said to be in the truth simply because they have not decided to render complete trust and submission to the 8 men leading the religious organization since it was they say that is truth is truth not what the Bible says.

Do you see that post say they are Jehovah’s witnesses?

So they are literally not in the Truth.

Are Jehovah’s witnesses in the truth? I await your interesting response.

I don't even know these 8 men your talking about and I've not decided to completely submit to them

You said they practice the purest form of worship all over the world. How do you know they do if you don't know them

Are those 8 men Jehovah’s witnesses?

I await another interesting response

rottennaija:
It's a pity you think I follow your post. I don't. I had listed doctrines and beliefs of the JW that are not of Christian origin, it does not mean they cannot use scriptures to back it up, rightly or wrongly.

Here is the deal MaxInDHouse, if you Pick any activities, "like banning singing laughing on Sunday" or "the clapping of hands when a disfellowship person is reinstated" and you will see religious leaders and teachers providing "proves beyond reasonable doubts" why those activities are unscriptural and you see the members claiming their have proven beyond reasonable doubts why does events are unscriptural.

The point is, anything can be backed up from the Bible, rightly or wrongly. Even the teaching of hell fire is backed up in the Bible.

Do you get it now?

He needs evidence where one of the lips of the organization says it is a bad practice using Bible verse to support it and some months down the line the other lip says it is a good practice and equally use Bible verses to back it up.

rottennaija:
It's a pity you think I follow your post. I don't. I had listed doctrines and beliefs of the JW that are not of Christian origin, it does not mean they cannot use scriptures to back it up, rightly or wrongly.

Here is the deal MaxInDHouse, if you Pick any activities, "like banning singing laughing on Sunday" or "the clapping of hands when a disfellowship person is reinstated" and you will see religious leaders and teachers providing "proves beyond reasonable doubts" why those activities are unscriptural and you see the members claiming their have proven beyond reasonable doubts why does events are unscriptural.

The point is, anything can be backed up from the Bible, rightly or wrongly. Even the teaching of hell fire is backed up in the Bible.

Do you get it now?

So in a nutshell you're only saying what you think not exactly what is happening because for you to have uttered such a statement you should be able to present one thing the JWs believe that can't be backed up with the scriptures.
Of course anyone can teach anything and quote any verse to back it up but before saying it's unscriptural then you must be prepared to substantiate not just use a common ideology that's based on tradition of men.

HellFire was never part of God's plan in the beginning, what God told Adam the first and foremost sinner is that he will die and nothing more! Genesis 2:17; 3:19

Paul explained that at death man's sin has been fully paid for! Romans 6:7

So don't just come on social media to accuse people when all what you have in mind is the traditional dogmas that can't be fully established in the scriptures!

cornelboy:
LIE!

The TRUTH is one. Suffering after death in Hell Fire can't be backed with the Bible.

Hell didn't exist. It was invented by religion.

The TRUTH is one


Malachi 3:1 what is the one TRUTH that states Pastor Russell is the messenger?

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell you're only saying what you think not exactly what is happening because for you to have uttered such a statement you should be able to present one thing the JWs believe that can't be backed up with the scriptures.
Of course anyone can teach anything and quote any verse to back it up but before saying it's unscriptural then you must be prepared to substantiate not just use a common ideology that's based on tradition of men.

HellFire was never part of God's plan in the beginning, what God told Adam the first and foremost sinner is that he will die and nothing more! Genesis 2:17; 3:19

Paul explained that at death man's sin has been fully paid for! Romans 6:7

So don't just come on social media to accuse people when all what you have in mind is the traditional dogmas that can't be fully established in the scriptures!

But just last month, Geoffrey Jackson announced a NEW LIGHT.

Are you sure what you believe right now is not an old light?

Just saying.

Cos G. Jackson was saying there is new light about the resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous..

I think you should go and watch it just to be sure that what you're blabbing here is not an old light.

oteneaaron:
But just last month, Geoffrey Jackson announced a NEW LIGHT. Are you sure what you believe right now is not an old light?
Just saying.
Cos G. Jackson was saying there is new light about the resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous..
I think you should go and watch it just to be sure that what you're blabbing here is not an old light.

OK you've dropped the stupid stuff of accusing people who never hurt you or your own family. Well that's our own cup of coffee there will always be New light and righteous people are ever ready to welcome it!

MaxInDHouse:
OK you've dropped the stupid stuff of accusing people who never hurt you or your own family. Well that's our own cup of coffee there will always be New light and righteous people are ever ready to welcome it!

Lol.

I didn't drop anything.

I was just amazed at your ignorance.

oteneaaron:
Lol.
I didn't drop anything.
I was just amazed at your ignorance.

IGNORANCE yielding positivity throughout the earth when you've got nothing better to replace it. I'm sorry for you!

oteneaaron:
Lol.

I didn't drop anything.

I was just amazed at your ignorance.

I had to laugh when he said you have dropped the stupid stuff of accusing his religious members.

The same person that will insult, rain abuses, lookdown and denigrate others dey play the victim card

emeijeh:
I will rephrase Redoil's question.....


Are you sure they are true Christians? When massive alcoholic consumption and fornication is their middle name?

While other "Christian" denominations are known for their exemplary holiness? I'm not a JW, but I usually find these pontifications hilarious

MaxInDHouse:
Please go straight to your point, i wasn't born a JW, i'm a convert and i've not seen anything they practice that's out of the scriptures so what exactly do you think JWs are doing that's not scriptural?

MaxInDHouse, by now you should have recognize that most of us are not kids. The watchtower religion has existed for more than 100 years, what they believe today is not the same with what they believed years ago (whatever their justification). But what should be of interest is that what they believed then had 'scriptural backing' until it no longer. That you have not seen anything "they practice that's out of the scriptures" does not mean there is non. It is just that you "have not seen" because you are deeply invested in it.

The page below list some of these scriptural practices and believes that are 'out of scriptures' but these were also backed using the scriptures.
https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/changed-watchtower-teachings.php

Like I said earlier,

Pick any activities, "like banning singing laughing on Sunday" or "the clapping of hands when a disfellowship person is reinstated" and you will see religious leaders and teachers providing "proves beyond reasonable doubts" why those activities are unscriptural and you see the members claiming their have proven beyond reasonable doubts why does events are unscriptural.

cornelboy:
LIE!

The TRUTH is one. Suffering after death in Hell Fire can't be backed with the Bible.

Hell didn't exist. It was invented by religion.

Same was 1914, 1919, overlapping generation, heavenly calling ending by 1935, watchtower is God's organization etc. All these are invented by religion. It is just that it is your religion and so you will not use the same lens of scrutiny on them.

rottennaija:
MaxInDHouse, by now you should have recognize that most of us are not kids. The watchtower religion has existed for more than 100 years, what they believe today is not the same with what they believed years ago (whatever their justification). But what should be of interest is that what they believed then had 'scriptural backing' until it no longer. That you have not seen anything "they practice that's out of the scriptures" does not mean there is non. It is just that you "have not seen" because you are deeply invested in it.
The page below list some of these scriptural practices and believes that are 'out of scriptures' but these were also backed using the scriptures.
https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/changed-watchtower-teachings.php
Like I said earlier,

Perhaps you don't understand what i'm saying so let me go straight to the point:

Please tell me what JWs practice now that's not scriptural.
If it's about changes in their understanding of certain Bible truth that's 100% SCRIPTURAL because Jesus himself said so many things that ancient servants of God never knew or practiced. So if you want to base your argument on changes regarding the understanding of God's people then you have to condemn the Bible and Jesus all together because God Himself said so many things that changed and Jesus (God's son) also said so many things that changed regarding what God's servants hold onto before and now!

cornelboy:
Lol it a joy for me that some could see the truth even without being a JW. Unlike people like you

He saw the truth or JWs copies his truth because last time I checked, some Christians don't believe in Hell long before WTBTS was birth

I only said hell fire not the whole TRUTH

So what is the WHOLE TRUTH?

For your side Abi

No! For your behind

Lol I'm not a JW yet

That means you must still be a churchgoer which your brother said is still among them

You fit de sip your alcohol while sitting

I don't do alcohol like JWs I'm always filled with Holy Spirit

He saw the truth or JWs copies his truth because last time I checked, some Christians don't believe in Hell long before WTBTS was birth

Lol you think copying the Truth of God is a sin abi? The JWs found out from the Bible themselves and held to the truth.

I don't do alcohol like JWs I'm always filled with Holy Spirit

Lol alcohol de comot holy spirit for person body abi
Jesus himself drank alcoholic wine in his lifetime
Despite the freedom to drink, i don't drink myself
[quote author=Emusan post=110250685][/quote]YOU'LL GET THE WHOLE TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE. GO STUDY NA!

You sure say you get the real holy spirit

Emusan:
He saw the truth or JWs copies his truth because last time I checked, some Christians don't believe in Hell long before WTBTS was birth



So what is the WHOLE TRUTH?




No! For your behind




That means you must still be a churchgoer which your brother said is still among them




I don't do alcohol like JWs I'm always filled with Holy Spirit

Na to wriggle free from you remain when he knows he is cornered.

That means you must still be a churchgoer which your brother said is still among them

The upper part of his lips says

Lol I'm not a JW yet

The lower part of his lips says

I'm a JW, I'm proud to say it.

Wahala come be like I am not a Jehovah’s witness yet and I am a Jehovah’s witness

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PharmaGirl:
I just got to know of this yesterday.

They believe that the power to perform miracles by Christians ended with the first century Christians.
I'm still surprised.

You sleep and wake up every day,is that not a miracle?

Shey you are not referring to the well rehearsed dramatics of Churchpreneurs on TV as miracle?

Redoil:
Are they christian.

JWs are Christians chosen to bear the name of JEHOVAH,the God of Jesus Christ, like Peter said.
1 Peter 4:16 and Acts 15:14-17.

Redoil:
They dont pray together with other christians.
They dont mingle with other christian.

JWs & Jesus Christ worship the same God @John20:17.
JWs won't join in any worship given to 3 deities of Christendom.

Redoil:
To they believe that they are the only people who will go to paradaise.

ALL your fellow Trinitarian devotees make the same claim nau.
Why will JWs saying that bother you?

PharmaGirl:
They are.
I find it odd how supposed Christians don't believe in miracles.

OK.

Please shine your eyes. Screenshots evidences speaks volumes about so called miracles.
We don't believe in TV theatrics passed off as miracles.
Like I said earlier, to sleep and wake up is a miracle.
Only JEHOVAH God works in miraculous ways.

emeijeh:
I will rephrase Redoil's question.....
Are you sure they are true Christians?

Isaiah 43:10,1 Peter 4:16 and Acts15:14-17 (ASV) JW are Christians.

emeijeh:
when massive alcoholic consumption and fornication is their middle name?

Don't even go there!
Yesterday,14th February na your fellow 3 deities worshippers carry fornication for head like gala.
Oga, pin your claim on Fornication on your Pastorpreneurs and 3 deities devotees.
Alcohol consumption is not a sin,or do you mean that Christ sinned when he converted water to wine?
Na your fellow Trinitarian devotees populate all the joints yesterday drinking themselves to stupor and celebrate fornication.
JWs are well known to discipline erring, unrepentant ones who practice such, based on the Scriptural evidence of 1 Corinthians 5:1-13.
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NothingDoMe:
Because they are afraid. They fear anything that has to do with the display of the power of God. They are afraid because people fear what they do not understand. And you cannot understand unless you are born again and have the spirit of God in you.

Stop DECEIVING yourself typing GIBBERISH.

kurt09:
They are lobotomized. A friend of mine who is a witness told me that miracles are false. That there is nothing like miracle. One fateful night, her few months nephew fell sick, and at the point of death. My friend brought out her Bible, opened Psalm 91, and prayed incessantly until the child health normalised. In the morning, when she came to work,she told me how God used her. That she didn't sleep last night. That God is powerful and merciful for answering her prayers last night. I told her you don't believe in miracles but you're sharing testimony of what God did for your family last night. I told her to pray for more divine encounters instead of following church doctrines...

Did she tell you she cured her nephew?

You have not told us the whole truth of what transpired that night.

"Mr Lobotomized".

LordKingsley:
Is this what the Bible refers to as 'having a form of godliness but denying its power?'

Did you see miracle in 2 Timothy 3:1-7?
Abeg stop DECEIVING yourself.

Sandas11:
Sweetheart pls do not believe everything u see on the internet. Some people go out of their way to manipulate facts and make things appear the way they really are not. Jehovah's witnesses encourages their members to pray for those in dire circumstances including the sick ones. They believe in miracles, miracles happen everyday. what they don't believe in is "faith healing". They also encourage their members to seek the best medical care when they are sick. Even then, as a matter of fact, taking drugs is not a guarantee, it's only the grace of God that can make you functional again.. That sweetheart, is a miracle in itself...

Gbam

maximunimpact:
A JW will rather seek the help of witch doctors than pray for miracle. I was once advised by one JW woman to rub some charms in my lips for job interview success and i looked at her astonishingly but said since am not yet a baptized brother that there's nothing wrong with that.

False claim.

Janosky:
Stop DECEIVING yourself typing GIBBERISH.

Una wan revive this dead thread?

cornelboy:
Lol you think copying the Truth of God is a sin abi?

So people actually have THE TRUTH OF GOD before the birth of JWs

I'm loving this

The JWs found out from the Bible themselves and held to the truth.

So people who first rejected the doctrine of Hell found out from where, Quran or Biology Text Book?

Lol alcohol de comot holy spirit for person body abi

The Bible says I should be filled with Holy Spirit rather than Alcohol

Jesus himself drank alcoholic wine in his lifetime
Despite the freedom to drink, i don't drink myself

Reason most JWs are all drunkard

YOU'LL GET THE WHOLE TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE. GO STUDY NA!

So that mean not ONLY JWs that have the WHOLE truth

You sure say you get the real holy spirit

You must have tasted the fake holy spirit to know there's a real holy spirit