InoGetJoy:

Russia never had any plans of invading Ukraine UNLESS Ukraine joins NATO.

US keeps saying Russia wants to invade, and they keep giving dates but those dates come and nothing happens and they choose another date.

There has always been soldiers at the Russian/Ukrainian border, which is normal for every country.

Russia fears no sanctions. The west has been slapping Russia with sanctions for eons but Russia has been surviving. Right now, any further sanctions against Russia is a waste of time; Russia already had trade partnership with many European countries all the way to Germany for their gas, and China for military alliance.

Ukraine and Russia are genetically same people. They have same language, same customs. This dichotomy you people are seeing between Russia and Ukraine, the people in these countries don't actually see it.

I hope you know about the Cuban missile crisis? The exact same thing the US has been bitching about is what led to that crisis, except that in this case Ukraine is right on Russian border while Cuba is a distance from the US mainland.


Lastly, I would advise you get your news and info from neutral news agencies. My eyes opened when I stopped getting news from CNN, BBC, fox news etc. Funny enough, these 3 news agencies are owned by the same company.

Have you ever wondered why the Russians are always portrayed as the enemy in Hollywood movies? I'll leave you to do that research for yourself.
Shalom

and what’s Russia’s problem if Ukraine joins nato? A democratic country on its own?

sukkot:
nigga yo ass is a special kinda stupito. dont you know that ukraine was part of russia ? russia is coming to collect what belongs to it. especially since the USA is supporting what once belonged to it. here is an analogy. you give birth to a son and your son breaks away from you and moves out of home and he is now being looked after by your enemy. what do you do ?

we belong to the EUROPE, they formed this country , they should come and collect it since you are practically reasoning without your bellybutton.

Poopypants:
we belong to the EUROPE, they formed this country , they should come and collect it since you are practically reasoning without your bellybutton.

you do know former soviet union splintered into 15 countries right ? ukraine is one of them

sukkot:
you do know former soviet union splintered into 15 countries right ? ukraine is one of them

and then? It’s splintered , Ukraine is its own country, with its own elected government and its own people and its own economy , no other country should dictate to its government on what to join and not join.

Poopypants:
and then? It’s splintered , Ukraine is its own country, with its own elected government and its own people and its own economy , no other country should dictate to its government on what to join and not join.

it dont work like that, ukraine is a security threat to russia with its allegiance with the enemy. the weakest link. the usa will not allow you to set up shop around its territory so why are they in that region ?

sukkot:
it dont work like that, ukraine is a security threat to russia with its allegiance with the enemy. the weakest link. the usa will not allow you to set up shop around its territory so why are they in that region ?

so in essence Russia dictates what Ukraine can and can’t do?

Poopypants:
so in essence Russia dictates what Ukraine can and can’t do?

of course. same way the usa dictates to south american and carribean countries what to do. if i remember correctly the usa tried doing a regime change in venezuela. tried putting someone in place of the sitting president maduro

If USA is feeling big then they fight China and Russia simultaneously to show them who is the real king. Is only Russia now, they should sanction them and remove them from UN and other international organization now. The hypocrite and wicked American govt will never do that, but the can go about bullying and destroying small and developing countries. I believe anybody that believes in American democracy is also a hypocrite, take it or leave it

sukkot:
of course. same way the usa dictates to south american and carribean countries what to do. if i remember correctly the usa tried doing a regime change in venezuela. tried putting someone in place of the sitting president maduro

so that’s right to you and you support that over democracy?

Poopypants:
so that’s right to you and you support that over democracy?

my point is america is full of crap. and letting you know the people you support are hypocrites. what is democracy ? america invading other nations to do regime change is democracy ? the very people who brought you democracy do not practice it so that concept of democracy is null and void.

abbey621:


You don't get it do you? You're trying to justify a full blown invasion of a country and I told you the citizens have to revolt. I don't care about the percentage, if the revolt is not comprehensive enough then it will be squashed. Crimea citizens exercised their rights and were annexed, nothing is stopping other regions within Ukraine from doing the same but you are talking about something different, you're talking about an invasion, physical violence and that ain't it chief!

Chief, apparently, you are the one that's a kinda lagging behind here.
Donetsk and Luhansk people are separatists groups who's been fighting the Ukrainian govt since March 2014, shortly after the annexation of Crimea. They don't want to be part of Ukraine anymore. They want to be annexed like Crimea.
So what do you have to say now?
Put this reason vis-a-vis the reasons you claimed the US invaded other sovereign nations.
Does it satisfy your "they have to revolt" rhetorics?

Invitationn:

Chief, apparently, you are the one that's a kinda lagging behind here.
Donetsk and Luhansk people are separatists groups who's been fighting the Ukrainian govt since March 2014, shortly after the annexation of Crimea. They don't want to be part of Ukraine anymore. They want to be annexed like Crimea.
So what do you have to say now?
Put this reason vis-a-vis the reasons you claimed the US invaded other sovereign nations.
Does it satisfy your "they have to revolt" rhetorics?

I'm tired of explaining it to you, why did you think the international community backed down when Crimea was annexed? It's simple, the people of crimea followed due democratic process, they held their ballots and voted to be part of Russia instead of Ukraine, there's nothing stopping the others from doing the same. In fact, Russia would have more supporters that way than just blindly invading, this ain't the 1930s!

Now to your other point, if you are genuinely comparing a response to a direct attack or a defense of allies the same as invading a nation all in the name of showing dominance then I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore, Iraq was a mistake and even the American people were against it but Afghanistan? Really? You're going to defend that? Come on dude, have a little self respect!

sukkot:
my point is america is full of crap. and letting you know the people you support are hypocrites. what is democracy ? america invading other nations to do regime change is democracy ? the very people who brought you democracy do not practice it so that concept of democracy is null and void.

this is not me supporting America or whatever , this is me calling out Russia over the nonsense they are doing , be it America or Russia , America never gave us democracy or independence.

abbey621:


You mean citizens inside Libya did not openly revolt against their government? Those with intellect can refute points without insults but those with nothing to offer just bark!

So you still fail to see where you are ignorant or you just want to keep slaving
.or you don't know the simple propaganda games the NATO and the west played in Libya ?

Poopypants:
so in essence Russia dictates what Ukraine can and can’t do?

Something like that.
I mean, during the Cuban missile crisis, the US threatened to invade Cuba just because they let the Soviets install missiles and nukes on their own land.
In essence US dictated what Cuba could and couldn't do, right?

abbey621:


I'm tired of explaining it to you, why did you think the international community backed down when Crimea was annexed? It's simple, the people of crimea followed due democratic process, they held their ballots and voted to be part of Russia instead of Ukraine, there's nothing stopping the others from doing the same. In fact, Russia would have more supporters that way than just blindly invading, this ain't the 1930s!

Now to your other point, if you are genuinely comparing a response to a direct attack or a defense of allies the same as invading a nation all in the name of showing dominance then I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore, Iraq was a mistake and even the American people were against it but Afghanistan? Really? You're going to defend that? Come on dude, have a little self respect!

You're a slippery one, I give that to you.
So they don't have to "REVOLT" again, they have to vote now.
And I hate to mention it but you're so uninformed than I thought ab initio.
So the West backed down when Crimea was annexed? Do you even know the meaning of annexation?
You're trying so hard to slip away from your goof by romanticizing the "Crimea voted to leave" narrative. They didn't leave, they were annexed!
Do you even know that till date, the Ukrainian govt has not recognized Crimea as part of Russia, or the referendum for that matter?
You're a waste of my time.
Apparently, you didn't even know about the Donbass conflict until I mentioned it.

Modified: You dare accuse me of justifying a full blown invasion after you justified 4 full blown invasions by US and tagged the 5th one a "Mistake". Listen to yourself!

abbey621:


Come on that's revisionist history! You're being deliberately mischievious here! Vietnam was a full blown war with causation as the people of South Vietnam did not want communism imposed on them, it's like the Biafran people officially declaring separation from Nigeria and the outside world accepted only for Nigeria to bomb them and attempt to wipe them out, essentially provoking the international community. Furthermore, Libya was well justified as their own people overthrew Gaddafi nothing else and Afghanistan harbored an immediate threat not only Bin LAden but Al Queada as a whole, in the aftermath of 911, it would be crazy for the U.S to sit back and let them continue to scheme another attack. The only solid point here is Iraq and which the USA is still paying dearly for even after two decades, Iraq was Bush's personal vendetta and majority of Americans knew he was full of sh*t!

abbey621:


You don't get it do you? You're trying to justify a full blown invasion of a country and I told you the citizens have to revolt. I don't care about the percentage, if the revolt is not comprehensive enough then it will be squashed. Crimea citizens exercised their rights and were annexed, nothing is stopping other regions within Ukraine from doing the same but you are talking about something different, you're talking about an invasion, physical violence and that ain't it chief!

Invitationn:

You're a slippery one, I give that to you.
So they don't have to "REVOLT" again, they have to vote now.
And I hate to mention it but you're so uninformed than I thought ab initio.
So the West backed down when Crimea was annexed? Do you even know the meaning of annexation?
You're trying so hard to slip away from your goof by romanticizing the "Crimea voted to leave" narrative. They didn't leave, they were annexed!
Do you even know that till date, the Ukrainian govt has not recognized Crimea as part of Russia, or the referendum for that matter?
You're a waste of my time.
Apparently, you didn't even know about the Donbass conflict until I mentioned it.

Modified: You dare accuse me of justifying a full blown invasion after you justified 4 full blown invasions by US and tagged the 5th one a "Mistake". Listen to yourself!

Like I said before arguing on bullshit point is a waste of time...Please continue arguing with your keyboard.

What ego can do. Russia is ready to obliterate Ukraine, destroying itself in the process, all because of ego.

abbey621:


Like I said before arguing on bullshit point is a waste of time...Please continue arguing with your keyboard.

Absolutely, if it makes you feel good about yourself.

Invitationn:

Something like that.
I mean, during the Cuban missile crisis, the US threatened to invade Cuba just because they let the Soviets install missiles and nukes on their own land.
In essence US dictated what Cuba could and couldn't do, right?

so in essence let the big countries continue bullying small countries with reckless abandon.

abeeee:

So you still fail to see where you are ignorant or you just want to keep slaving
.or you don't know the simple propaganda games the NATO and the west played in Libya ?

Unfortunately you're not a Libyan hence you are just spewing rubbish!

Poopypants:
this is not me supporting America or whatever , this is me calling out Russia over the nonsense they are doing , be it America or Russia , America never gave us democracy or independence.

well i say ukraine belongs to russia.

America should worry about her millions of homeless, high school fees, health care. In America, 75% are living in financial bondage. Biden should worry about fixing that and stop distracting people's attention.

After all, about 50% of the population of Ukraine is somehow linked to Russia by blood.

Poopypants:
so in essence let the big countries continue bullying small countries with reckless abandon.

If you are against all big countries doing this, then you have a point. But if you're supporting or even trying to defend the US who have been doing this shit all over history then you have no point. Let me ask you this.

Do you think the US will allow Mexico become allies with Russia and let Russia troops and nukes be stationed in Mexico? Things doesn't just happen in vaccum. Both sides have a reason for acting the way they do. Many people think this conflict will lead to WW3. But no, not even close.

US and her allies know they won't be winning any WW3. As everyone will lose. The Cuba missile crisis was the closest we have ever gotten to a WW3. We only missed it by a small mile. If US were so aggressive against Russia nukes and military being in their back yard. Doesn't it sound to reason Russia will and should react the same way?

But Ukraine self do have a point for joining NATO. As they feel powerless against Russia especially after the annexation of Crimea. Joining NATO will strengthen them and make Russia actually think twice before trying to repeat another Crimea. But Putin nor send anybody papa, he will invade them if they try to join NATO. And if NATO should pass a resolution to attack Russia, welll you watched his press interview with the French president where he essentially said the moment that happens he will nuke every member of NATO. Ensuring no one wins.

bluefilm:
USA wants this war at all cost.
See propaganda.

i dey tell u

hashtagged:
Russia : we won't invade
Ukraine : Russia won't invade

US and NATO : Russia plans to invade this night


The Caucasian pigs are beating for war, they want another iraq

Calm down sir, nobody’s beating for any war. A war with Russia a nuclear armed nation is not a war it’s maximum destruction. That being said, what you see here my friend is counter-propaganda… not all events are solved by sanctions and wars, the US propaganda is working effectively and it’s putting Russia in defensive mode.

You get it now?

calcal:
America should worry about her millions of homeless, high school fees, health care. In America, 75% are living in financial bondage. Biden should worry about fixing that and stop distracting people's attention.

After all, about 50% of the population of Ukraine is somehow linked to Ukraine by blood.

Yen yen yen … na you put the 75% of the population for the bondage ?

Poopypants:
so in essence let the big countries continue bullying small countries with reckless abandon.

In essence life is not fair.

Invitationn:

In essence life is not fair.

so allow US bully their own small country (Russia) in peace.

Poopypants:
Yet some animals on this website from a dying country , choose to believe whatever their imaginations cook up in support of Russia , over videos, news and proof that Russia wants to invade a democratic country (Ukraine), because they want and chose to do what their people unequivocally agreed to. Most Nigerians are a special breed of ignorant chimps.

Bros, Wednesday has come and gone, yet no invasion. 'sup na? Keep drinking the Uncle Sam coolaid, just like the Iraqi WMDs. You think this is Hollywood, ba?

seunny4lif:

USA and UK want the war to happen, so that they can boost their falling rate at the poll.
Biden midterm is coming and he need Russia invasion of Ukraine to make people support him and Same with that Johnson.
Germany, Hungary, Croatia, Bulgaria and France already said they will not be part of this Ukraine war wahala.
France and Belgium are like war zone every weekends due to massive anti government protect going on.

Even Ukraine disagreed with USA and UK reports.
USA and UK said Russia will invade at 12AM on the 16th February.
I waited till now and no Russia troops inside Ukraine.

This Russia def min meeting in Syria few hours ago

Bros, I tire o. Ayam still waiting for Wednesday's invasion.....on Thursday..

Poopypants:
so allow US bully their own small country (Russia) in peace.

Tell me more jokes. You're a comedian