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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Nobody: 6:29pm On Feb 16, 2022
A long as Messiah is coming to take over Aso Villa, I don't care.

"Only dumbs would challenge the victory of the declared winner of 2023 presidential election".
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by emmnprince(m): 6:32pm On Feb 16, 2022
hashtagged:
Russia : we won't invade
Ukraine : Russia won't invade

US and NATO : Russia plans to invade this night


The Caucasian pigs are beating for war, they want another iraq

If Russia won't invade why the encirclement of her military around Ukraine or is the something I'm not getting?
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Nobody: 6:41pm On Feb 16, 2022
BritishNaija:


This not propaganda, sitelite monitors all the moments
Brain washed western bot. Why didn't Russia invade Ukraine today as your intelligence agencies have said?. Nonsense and ingredients.

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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by abeeee(m): 6:46pm On Feb 16, 2022
abbey621:


Come on that's revisionist history! You're being deliberately mischievious here! Vietnam was a full blown war with causation as the people of South Vietnam did not want communism imposed on them, it's like the Biafran people officially declaring separation from Nigeria and the outside world accepted only for Nigeria to bomb them and attempt to wipe them out, essentially provoking the international community. Furthermore, Libya was well justified as their own people overthrew Gaddafi nothing else and Afghanistan harbored an immediate threat not only Bin LAden but Al Queada as a whole, in the aftermath of 911, it would be crazy for the U.S to sit back and let them continue to scheme another attack. The only solid point here is Iraq and which the USA is still paying dearly for even after two decades, Iraq was Bush's personal vendetta and majority of Americans knew he was full of sh*t!
Did you just say the rubish you said concerning Liby? Oh my God we still have mental slaves this deep in slavery sucking the imperialist balls

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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Nobody: 6:46pm On Feb 16, 2022
emmnprince:


If Russia won't invade why the encirclement of her military around Ukraine or is the something I'm not getting?

Russia military action is in Russian territory 15 kilometres away from Ukrainian border's. Russian federation territory. If there is any invading nation it's the USA that has invaded Ukraine by sending over 500 of their soldiers into Ukraine with the pretext of training Ukrainian soldiers... the west have invaded Ukraine, they left their countries and entered Ukraine, now trying to poke Russia to attack Ukraine. But Russia know better that Ukraine is not a threat, but NATO in Ukraine is the threat.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Ochys87: 6:51pm On Feb 16, 2022
Poopypants:
ever occurred to you that Russia probably backed out cos not a single country or organization supported them. They fear sanctions and probably want to re strategize. Yet @seunny4lif a nobody, while in his father’s sitting room analyzes and imagines everyone is lying against Russia.
Russia had suffered numerous sanctions from d west yet they continue to grow...the latest sanctions the US plan to use is banning exportation of iPhone and stop Russia from using swift..lol Russia have always found their way around d those sanctions, for example the latest gas deal with china was done in euros not dollars grin grin

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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Falseprophet01(m): 6:51pm On Feb 16, 2022
Keep calm!

An all out boot on the ground war is unlikely in 2022 or even in at least one more decade.

What you will see happen are all events that would rearrange the current status quo of events.

Let me put it more clearly: New alliances will be forged amongst nations( A key one to observe is Russia and China, Israel and Saudi Arabia.)
As the days go bye, mind how you spend. A financial crisis that will further force the hands of nations is underway.

Dont say you were not told.
It's all happening before your very eyes. Brace up folks.

All these, I have seen.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Nobody: 6:53pm On Feb 16, 2022
InoGetJoy:

Russia never had any plans of invading Ukraine UNLESS Ukraine joins NATO.

US keeps saying Russia wants to invade, and they keep giving dates but those dates come and nothing happens and they choose another date.

There has always been soldiers at the Russian/Ukrainian border, which is normal for every country.

Russia fears no sanctions. The west has been slapping Russia with sanctions for eons but Russia has been surviving. Right now, any further sanctions against Russia is a waste of time; Russia already had trade partnership with many European countries all the way to Germany for their gas, and China for military alliance.

Ukraine and Russia are genetically same people. They have same language, same customs. This dichotomy you people are seeing between Russia and Ukraine, the people in these countries don't actually see it.

I hope you know about the Cuban missile crisis? The exact same thing the US has been bitching about is what led to that crisis, except that in this case Ukraine is right on Russian border while Cuba is a distance from the US mainland.


Lastly, I would advise you get your news and info from neutral news agencies. My eyes opened when I stopped getting news from CNN, BBC, fox news etc. Funny enough, these 3 news agencies are owned by the same company.

Have you ever wondered why the Russians are always portrayed as the enemy in Hollywood movies? I'll leave you to do that research for yourself.
Shalom

Clean analysis. Thumbs up

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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by InoGetJoy: 6:58pm On Feb 16, 2022
abbey621:


Your opening sentence says it all, a soverign nation unable to join any association it pleases. So is Ukraine a soverign country or not? Because it seems like you're saying Russia has the right to invade any country close to them that joins Nato....lol.
US has invaded Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan etc. Those are all sovereign countries. Does US have a right to invade them under whatever useless pretences?

Russia doesn't have any issue with Ukraine joining NATO, Russia has issues with the effect of that alliance which is the US stationing a military base probably with nuclear missiles in Russia's backyard.
When Russia and Cuba had a military alliance, US invaded Cuba and that's what caused the Cuban Missile Crisis but the funny thing is that Cuba is at a great distance from the US mainland whereas Ukraine shares borders work Russia.

Also, Ukraine is a former Russian territory. Most Ukrainians are Russian, they found themselves in another country (Ukraine) when the USSR fell. They voted that if Ukraine joins NATO, they'll break awake from Ukraine and rejoin Russia.


There are many twists and turns, but the fact is that the US and other countries have been shouting themselves hoarse with their propaganda, and I'm happy Russia allowed them to disgrace themselves

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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Nobody: 6:59pm On Feb 16, 2022
abbey621:


Your opening sentence says it all, a soverign nation unable to join any association it pleases. So is Ukraine a soverign country or not? Because it seems like you're saying Russia has the right to invade any country close to them that joins Nato....lol.
If you are enlightened about military politics, you should not have made this statement. Why do the Cuban missile crisis happened?. If you can get this right, then you will understand Russia stand point.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by oribi(m): 7:01pm On Feb 16, 2022
Theunderman:

Russia won't attack, the US are trying to prevent the war

War is not rewarding at all
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Nitah1: 7:06pm On Feb 16, 2022
crismark:
Idiotic US looking for a way to start war so as to sell weapons to ukraine.
Idiots.

US have strategically destroyed iraq, Afghanistan, libya and yemen now they want to start destroying european countries strategically.
Was it the US that sponsored Russia annexation of cremea,luhansk,and other parts in the Eastern Ukraine?

Was it the US sponsored Russia invasion and distraction of Chechnya ?


What is Russia doing amassing some 130,000 soldiers at Ukraine borders?


Don't drag America into everything pls.



The entire world knows that is only in America you can go, settled,and claim and enjoy as citizen...is not china or Russia.

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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by olugabbie(m): 7:09pm On Feb 16, 2022
CoronaVirusPro:
They still chest beating

They will return to Russia when cold sinks into their veins

Chest beating that will lead to nowhere.


Lols Where do you think the troops are stationed? Ukraine?

The troops are inside Russia. They are home.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by uunwanaobong3: 7:12pm On Feb 16, 2022
If there is one reason Russia will invade Ukraine, it is because of America and the media.

Russia knew that Ukrainians are their brothers, and all what the want from Ukraine is to stop Ukraine from joining NATO so that Russia will be safe from Western influence...... I think so far I have heard rumors of Ukraine giving-up their ambition of joining NATO and the Russians are beginning to withdrew their troops.


But the western nation and American media are still stoking flame of war on Ukraine despite the fact that if Russia want to truly invade Ukraine, NATO and their western counterpart can't help Ukraine to fight Russia.


I think Ukrainian should speak up and asked America and their western counterparts to keep quiet so that they can negotiate with Russia naturedly, because if fight breakout, it is Ukrainian that will suffer the consequences of what America did.

And Ukraine should know that they are closer to Russia than America.... So they should act wisely because Russians are their brothers.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Invitationn: 7:17pm On Feb 16, 2022
abbey621:


Come on that's revisionist history! You're being deliberately mischievious here! Vietnam was a full blown war with causation as the people of South Vietnam did not want communism imposed on them, it's like the Biafran people officially declaring separation from Nigeria and the outside world accepted only for Nigeria to bomb them and attempt to wipe them out, essentially provoking the international community. Furthermore, Libya was well justified as their own people overthrew Gaddafi nothing else and Afghanistan harbored an immediate threat not only Bin LAden but Al Queada as a whole, in the aftermath of 911, it would be crazy for the U.S to sit back and let them continue to scheme another attack. The only solid point here is Iraq and which the USA is still paying dearly for even after two decades, Iraq was Bush's personal vendetta and majority of Americans knew he was full of sh*t!
Lol.
How predictable! Better than the Americans, you found reasons to justify the invasions of all the sovereign nations I listed above except for Iraq grin
Are the Russians trying to invade Ukraine for no reason?
Just like your Biafra and South Vietnam people, there are Russians in Ukraine who desperately want out.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by okezuoemmanue(m): 7:18pm On Feb 16, 2022
USA and NETO played on Russia.
They just made that propaganda for two reasons.
1. If Russia eventually invades Ukraine, they will claim their propaganda was right.
2. If Russia deescalates, USA Will take it to be as how they have warned Russia to do so
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by uunwanaobong3: 7:25pm On Feb 16, 2022
Cptflint:


Clean analysis. Thumbs up
I think fox news is not part of the wider LIBERAL network.
But it is still a USA network.... They are better than CNN BBC MSNBC ABC NBC etc

It is hard to get a news from a neutral source because the entire internet and history has been polluted, controlled and censored by liberals leftist rich tech Giants

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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Nobody: 7:29pm On Feb 16, 2022
Cptflint:

Brain washed western bot. Why didn't Russia invade Ukraine today as your intelligence agencies have said?. Nonsense and ingredients.

Must you show your stupidity by insulting someone? You should have asked nicely and get informed of updates, it seems nairaland is your residence.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by abbey621(m): 7:29pm On Feb 16, 2022
Invitationn:

Lol.
How predictable! Better than the Americans, you found reasons to justify the invasions of all the sovereign nations I listed above except for Iraq grin
Are the Russians trying to invade Ukraine for no reason?
Just like your Biafra and South Vietnam people, there are Russians in Ukraine who desperately want out.

Then let those people rise up against the Ukranian government. Once they revolt, justification becomes easy but if you are talking about less than 10% of the poupulation then that hardly counts as insurrection....lol.

Koko be say, unless those people revolt and cause a revolution, Russia has no ground on invasion and will be met by the full force of NATO, this ain't the USSR my nigga, that crap ended over 70 years ago grin
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by omat20(m): 7:34pm On Feb 16, 2022
Lol that Russian ambassador is very funny. So Ukraine should wait for 4weeks for Russia pull out from the border
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by abbey621(m): 7:39pm On Feb 16, 2022
Cptflint:

If you are enlightened about military politics, you should not have made this statement. Why do the Cuban missile crisis happened?. If you can get this right, then you will understand Russia stand point.

You are comparing a nation that openly embraces communism to one that opposes it. Cuban crisis occurred because they represented a growing threat to democracy and even then the USA never invaded Cuba so what's the comparison here?
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by abbey621(m): 7:41pm On Feb 16, 2022
abeeee:

Did you just say the rubish you said concerning Liby? Oh my God we still have mental slaves this deep in slavery sucking the imperialist balls

You mean citizens inside Libya did not openly revolt against their government? Those with intellect can refute points without insults but those with nothing to offer just bark!
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by powerblaze(m): 7:42pm On Feb 16, 2022
WibusJaga:


See propaganda & counter-propaganda. We no know which one be true.
That was how Iraq kept on dishing out propaganda that it would soon crush the Allied Forces until the latter entered Baghdad & overran them. cheesy

Or how the latter lied continuously that Saddam had nuclear weapons
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Quiny32323: 7:44pm On Feb 16, 2022
USA now have buhari updated version as president. He failed woefully, just looking for a way to distract us citizens from the high interest rate that is bedeviling them coupled with his lapses and the stupid media is selling this crap, yesterday they said russia will invade by 1am still nothing happened.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by abbey621(m): 7:48pm On Feb 16, 2022
InoGetJoy:

US has invaded Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan etc. Those are all sovereign countries.[s] Does US have a right to invade them under whatever useless pretences?[/s]

[s]Russia doesn't have any issue with Ukraine joining NATO, Russia has issues with the effect of that alliance which is the US stationing a military base probably with nuclear missiles in Russia's backyard.[/s]
When Russia and Cuba had a military alliance, US invaded Cuba and that's what caused the Cuban Missile Crisis but the funny thing is that Cuba is at a great distance from the US mainland whereas Ukraine shares borders work Russia.

Also, Ukraine is a former Russian territory. Most Ukrainians are Russian, they found themselves in another country (Ukraine) when the USSR fell. They voted that if Ukraine joins NATO, they'll break awake from Ukraine and rejoin Russia.


There are many twists and turns, but the fact is that the US and other countries have been shouting themselves hoarse with their propaganda, and I'm happy Russia allowed them to disgrace themselves

You're not making sense, U.S never invaded Libya, that's pure B.S. and WTF do you mean by pretense? You mean someone came into your home killed your family and you won't track them down to the ends of the Earth? Guy come off it!

Your analysis that Ukraine is Russia's backyard hence that gives Putin the right to invade them doesn't make any sense, if that's the proper justification then Israel needs to wipe out all the Islamic neighbors because they represent a threat to them......See how silly that sounds?
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by YellowMayor(m): 7:52pm On Feb 16, 2022
Say No to war
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by sirp9898(m): 8:00pm On Feb 16, 2022
Russia maybe right
They are not friends
How can your enemy become your neighbour
It look insucure to them
Common sense reasoning
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by 27Pushing30: 8:01pm On Feb 16, 2022
AbuAeesha:
when pple enjoy too much peace some heartless diplomatic leaders they tend to create chaos to let the mass know how peace and anarchy is like.
if not why is the russian president doing this?

Its because you atre in Nigeria where we see ourselves as inconsequential.

Go and read about the cuban missile crisis so you can update your knowledge.

The USA placed ballistic missiles in Italy and Turkey which was very within range to USSR , USSR said those missiles threaten our security , remove them, USA said NO so Russia moved ballistic missiles to CUBA - after the USA had failed in their covert mission to invade CUBA - USA panicked there was a standoff and eventually USA agreed to remove the missiles in Turkey and Italy and USSR removed the one in Cuba,

Today, USA via NATO has been activating new missile sites in europe which are capable of striking targets within Russia. Russia has been warning them to stop or they will also begin positioning missiles capable of hitting european cities.

Now here is the problem...NATO wants Ukraine to join them ---which means in the future they could even have missile sites in Ukraine... Ukraine is next door to russia ---so Ukraine is Russia's CUBA - so if you were Russia would you allow that?

So russia is saying if they admit Ukraine then let the war that will start in 20 years time let it start today--- simple lol

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Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by Invitationn: 8:03pm On Feb 16, 2022
abbey621:


Then let those people rise up against the Ukranian government. Once they revolt, justification becomes easy but if you are talking about less than 10% of the poupulation then that hardly counts as insurrection....lol.

Koko be say, unless those people revolt and cause a revolution, Russia has no ground on invasion and will be met by the full force of NATO, this ain't the USSR my nigga, that crap ended over 70 years ago grin
This "less than 10%" has been engaging the Ukrainian government since God knows.
The manner in which you put the "less than 10%" reminds me of Buhari's "less than 5%" remark.
For the record, there's no international law that says you must have certain percentage to seek for self determination. Why is Ukraine not letting them go?

And Stop flattering NATO. Since the Russian military build up, what's been NATO actions asides chest beating on the media.
No deployment, no drills no nothing!
They went MIA when Russia annexed Crimea.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by abbey621(m): 8:22pm On Feb 16, 2022
Invitationn:

This "less than 10%" has been engaging the Ukrainian government since God knows.
The manner in which you put the "less than 10%" reminds me of Buhari's "less than 5%" remark.
For the record, there's no international law that says you must have certain percentage to seek for self determination. Why is Ukraine not letting them go?

And Stop flattering NATO. Since the Russian military build up, what's been NATO actions asides chest beating on the media.
No deployment, no drills no nothing!
They went MIA when Russia annexed Crimea.

You don't get it do you? You're trying to justify a full blown invasion of a country and I told you the citizens have to revolt. I don't care about the percentage, if the revolt is not comprehensive enough then it will be squashed. Crimea citizens exercised their rights and were annexed, nothing is stopping other regions within Ukraine from doing the same but you are talking about something different, you're talking about an invasion, physical violence and that ain't it chief!
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by alizma: 8:26pm On Feb 16, 2022
Baawaa:
US is up to something, Ukraine should fear them
US has plan for Russia.
Re: Russia Is Not Withdrawing From Ukraine But Building Up Troops - US, NATO by sukkot: 8:39pm On Feb 16, 2022
Poopypants:
Yet some animals on this website from a dying country , choose to believe whatever their imaginations cook up in support of Russia , over videos, news and proof that Russia wants to invade a democratic country (Ukraine), because they want and chose to do what their people unequivocally agreed to. Most Nigerians are a special breed of ignorant chimps.
nigga yo ass is a special kinda stupito. dont you know that ukraine was part of russia ? russia is coming to collect what belongs to it. especially since the USA is supporting what once belonged to it. here is an analogy. you give birth to a son and your son breaks away from you and moves out of home and he is now being looked after by your enemy. what do you do ?

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