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Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by nedzuby: 11:07am On Feb 17, 2022
Redcrafton:
Were you foolish set off people when you received same entitlement in

1999 two entitled Westerners

2015 two entitled Northerners??

What affects most common bl8k people is ethnic sense of amnesia...that's why Africa has been fighting wars...even clearly avoidable ones.
Other regions were busy building alliances with others but the SE think insulting others will give them presidency.

Make una come collect am na. Nonsense
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Walkee: 11:08am On Feb 17, 2022
OfoIgbo:
Haven't you seen the Yoruba god Tinubu, bowing profusely to Buhari?

Didn't you notice your people lick Fulani ass and falling over themselves to vote out the only ever SS president in 2015 in preference for a Fulani dullard and terrorist?

Haven't you noticed that Ilorin, which ought to be a Yoruba territory, is currently led traditionally by a Fulani emir?

Shouldn't the three questions I asked above be a guide as to which ethnic group idolizes the Fulanis in Nigeria?
and in your great foolishness you believed that I'm a Yoruba. I'm from Uromi in Edo state
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Redcrafton: 11:09am On Feb 17, 2022
nedzuby:
Other regions were busy building alliances with others but the SE think insulting others will give them presidency.

Make una come collect am na. Nonsense
Just look at your watery remark.

When they build alliances from 1999 to 2015, what did you give them?

Lame hypocrisy...
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Walkee: 11:14am On Feb 17, 2022
Essence20:
Yeah, they have every right to contest but it's only when they are given the platform that they will have a chance of winning. In the spirit of equity and fairness, it's expected that each of the major geopolitical regions be given a chance to the presidency. Others have had theirs, some even more than once. Last 2105, PDP zoned presidency to the north, reason why their primaries was dominated by northerners only. This zoning is meant to go round and is southeast turn, why are they reluctant to do the needful? Same in APC.
there are six geopolitical zones in Nigeria, where are the presidents from North East and North central?
Nobody is stopping the same Pdp from zoning to the South. Just like you said, Pdp zoned 2015 slot to the North and saraki from North central, Kwankwanso and Tambuwal from North West and Atiku from North East all contested in the primaries and Atiku won.
Should Pdp zone it to the south, South East, South-South and South West will also have to contest for the ticket and whoever wins will be the flagbearer. Nobody is going to back down for anyone. If you don't even have the courage against your own party men why should anyone trust you with power?
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by thinksense: 11:19am On Feb 17, 2022
Biafra, niger delta, oduduwa presidency all the noises but the north rule.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by danot1030: 11:22am On Feb 17, 2022
EmirGold:

“We are waiting for them (political parties), as they will meet their Waterloo this time, if they insist on shortchanging the Southeast people this rare opportunity of producing a credible, patriotic, detribalised and dynamic president of Nigeria in 2023,” he said.




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/02/2023-southeast-must-produce-next-president-igbo-elders-insist/
Which of the political party owes you in the South East? Igbos should quit cowardice for once and issue their threat to their beloved PDP.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by danot1030: 11:22am On Feb 17, 2022
Redcrafton:
Just look at your watery remark.

When they build alliances from 1999 to 2015, what did you give them?

Lame hypocrisy...
Ask PDP
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Disclaimer12: 11:24am On Feb 17, 2022
You see conscience? Did I mention any tribe ?how did u know my message was for u? grin
Essence20:
You jumped OBJ, is he not one of you? Or it's because Igbos voted and supported him?
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Eastlink(m): 11:24am On Feb 17, 2022
Walkee:
I am from South South, I'm from Edo state, how is Jonathan, an Ijaw my son?
Ok. But Jonathan represented the South-South zone. True or false? Peter Odili had to bury his political ambition to appease the Ijaws who clamoured for their man as Vice-President. Edo state might need to stake their claim whenever the slot get's zoned to the South-South in 2042.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Disclaimer12: 11:25am On Feb 17, 2022
Did u see Igbo in my write up? Why conscience dey judge u? grin
Benjax4all:
they hate awolowo ,but akintoye and abiola himself betray awolowo are those pple igbo, I think is d same Igbo that did not allow abiola to become president and kill is wife or have you forget wat d son of abiola said in 2017
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Disclaimer12: 11:26am On Feb 17, 2022
It's easy to throw tantrums on a faceless forum! Bunch of losers grin
doublecross:
ironu yen lo ma pa iya la ya eee
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Benjax4all: 11:29am On Feb 17, 2022
Disclaimer12:
Did u see Igbo in my write up? Why conscience dey judge u? grin
abeg shut up, ur comment is directly talking about igbo, stop faking it even a new born baby willl know that!
Is u that conscience dey judge not me
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Disclaimer12: 11:33am On Feb 17, 2022
Then a new born baby know that you all are bunch of haters ! Funny how you all suddenly need to rule the zoo! U suddenly want ticket from APC, the same party u called terrorists party lol! U all now want the northern vote,the same aboki that are nama, cows, ndifulani lol! Karma is a bitch bro! Guard your utterances and you'll go far in life grin
Benjax4all:
abeg shut up, ur comment is directly talking about igbo, stop faking it even a new born baby willl know that!
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Walkee: 11:35am On Feb 17, 2022
Eastlink:
Ok. But Jonathan represented the South-South zone. True or false? Peter Odili had to bury his political ambition to appease the Ijaws who clamoured for their man as Vice-President. Edo state might need to stake their claim whenever the slot get's zoned to the South-South in 2042.
no, it's not zoned to South south or south East or south West, it's zoned North or south by Pdp. It depends on how influential the candidate is to win the ticket. Primaries mostly based on who has more money to spend. If you are able to get enough delegates you win. Nobody cares if you are from SW, SS or SE

Following your logic, would you say Wike buried his ambition in 2019 for Obi in other to placate IPOBs?
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by aribisala0(m): 11:36am On Feb 17, 2022
Lions rule in a zoo not pussy cats
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Benjax4all: 11:47am On Feb 17, 2022
Disclaimer12:
Then a new born baby know that you all are bunch of haters ! Funny how you all suddenly need to rule the zoo! U suddenly want ticket from APC, the same party u called terrorists party lol! U all now want the northern vote,the same aboki that are nama, cows, ndifulani lol! Karma is a bitch bro! Guard your utterances and you'll go far in life grin
mr man,go to my page and check,their is no place have never say let Apc give d tickets to south east because dey did not contribute any thing in apc. Even let them give a Igbo man president him go still fail,even worse pass buhari because d country is beyond repair and can't change for good, because will all look and take everything tribal, even I no even support Igbo presidency.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by nedzuby: 11:49am On Feb 17, 2022
Redcrafton:
Just look at your watery remark.

When they build alliances from 1999 to 2015, what did you give them?

Lame hypocrisy...
Watery remark?

I am from SE and what my people display is foolishness. I am not a great fan of Tinubu but has done great by forming alliance with the North knowing he need their number to win.

Let’s continue with our foolishness thinking it will give us presidency. Make una Dey for river while soap enter una eyes
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Oladipo1166(m): 11:52am On Feb 17, 2022
Disclaimer12:
Their Grandparents hated Awolowo all through, Their parents hated Abiola and never voted for him in the freest Election in history! Their children has chosen Tinubu as their number one Enemy! Yoruba E ronu o
It will be fine if the Yorubas can provide someone more better, because many Yorubas will never vote for Tinubu, E je ki a wa eniyan gidi.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by bjdon: 11:57am On Feb 17, 2022
Esseite:
I dont think the Igbos lack diplomacy, I think other regions (not everyone in it) lack diplomacy on the Igbos.. one might even say there seems to be be a sense of racism and segregation rapidly growing against the Igbos.

This is a region that has waited and watched on the sidelines while giving support to everyother region, the region has been derided and called names, relegated to the extent of not a single position on the hierarchy of power in the nation, despite biting policies and untold hardship it has not stopped its travels to every nook and cranny in the country while creating a sense of unity and building relationships. How is the emeka and chinedu you get spare part and household items from while being cordial with you different from the one that aspire for leadership in his or her country?
Cry me a river!
Was an Igbo man not VP to Shagari?
Were Igbo men not Senate presidents in Obasanjo's time
The simple truth is the Igbos hitched their tent with PDP. That worked for a while, but eventually when PDP lost, they found themselves outside the power equation. They need to learn from how the SW built an alliance with the NW. All this boasting, shouting, threatening , crying...is not going to get them anywhere.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Disclaimer12: 12:01pm On Feb 17, 2022
Let's be civil here, an Igbo man deserve the presidency, even if he fails, let's still have an Igbo president for 8 years ! But the truth is how are we going to convince people to vote for him,? The unnecessary utterances has made an Igbo nation the most hated one in present day Nigerians! Is it Yoruba that's called saboteur or Fulani slave that'll vote? Or Hausa man that's been called cow that'll queue behind an Igbo man? The earlier the Igbo knows that democracy is a game of number, building of bridges across all tribes, creating of alliances the better it'll be ! For me , I'll vote for an Igbo man if presented, not because he merits it, but for the sake of equity
Benjax4all:
mr man,go to my page and check,their is no place have never say let Apc give d tickets to south east because dey did not contribute any thing in apc. Even let them give a Igbo man president him go still fail,even worse pass buhari because d country is beyond repair and can't change for good, because will all look and take everything tribal, even I no even support Igbo presidency.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Deadlytruth(m):
Eastlink:
Blackmail got the SW the Presidency in 1999 - 2003. Blackmail got north the President with Yardaua taking that slot and Buhari emerging in 2015-2019 despite Boko-Haram and Sharia violence. Blackmail got south-south the Presidency in 2011 and nearly in 2015 with militants and Ijaw boys blowing hot air. If blackmail could get all these afformentioned groups the Presidency then the South-East is on the right track. They didn't do half of what the rest group did and so no one have any right to vilify them.

A Nigerian President of Igbo extraction is the goal. South-East should not bow down. It's their God given right to ascend the Presidency just like others.
The difference is that the blackmails of the SS, SW and NW were all directed at the FG and therefore attracted sympathy and support from the other regions unlike that of the SE which is directed more at other tribes and regions than at the FG hence attracting disgust and resistance from these other regions and tribes.
If you Easterners had focused on the FG alone all this while without bringing in other regions and even twisting history against them, you wouldn't have needed all these talks of fairness and equity to get all other Nigerian tribes queue behind you. But your insults since 2015 on account of the self inflicted loss of Jonathan who is not even from your SE has complicated everything. There is no equity or fairness, either, in twisting history against others and insulting them continually for 8 years running.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Essence20(m): 12:35pm On Feb 17, 2022
Walkee:
there are six geopolitical zones in Nigeria, where are the presidents from North East and North central?
Nobody is stopping the same Pdp from zoning to the South. Just like you said, Pdp zoned 2015 slot to the North and saraki from North central, Kwankwanso and Tambuwal from North West and Atiku from North East all contested in the primaries and Atiku won.
Should Pdp zone it to the south, South East, South-South and South West will also have to contest for the ticket and whoever wins will be the flagbearer. Nobody is going to back down for anyone. If you don't even have the courage against your own party men why should anyone trust you with power?
Yes, there are 6 geopolitical zones and 250ethnic groups. But we have 3 major ethnic groups: Hausa/Fulani, Igbo and Yoruba. There's no way power can rotate across the 250 ethnic groups, but it sure can rotate accross the 3 major ethnic groups as wells as the 6 geopolitical zones. We've to rotate it round the 3 majors before coming to the 6 geopolitical zones. This will go a long way to create that sense of belonging and inclusiveness. That's all the Igbos are asking for.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Walkee: 12:58pm On Feb 17, 2022
Essence20:
Yes, there are 6 geopolitical zones and 250ethnic groups. But we have 3 major ethnic groups: Hausa/Fulani, Igbo and Yoruba. There's no way power can rotate across the 250 ethnic groups, but it sure can rotate accross the 3 major ethnic groups as wells as the 6 geopolitical zones. We've to rotate it round the 3 majors before coming to the 6 geopolitical zones. This will go a long way to create that sense of belonging and inclusiveness. That's all the Igbos are asking for.
no. There's nothing like a sense of belonging there. If you are making demands based on ethnic sentiment then everyone else can make the same demands. You being Igbo doesn't make you better than a Bini, Urhobo idoma etc if you are able to work with the other groups and they elect you good for you. You don't automatically deserve anything just because you are Igbo. If you believe you are so big and "major" as an ethnic group why not create your own party and use your " major " ethnic group to win power?
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Echoban: 1:07pm On Feb 17, 2022
Esseite:
In as much as I cant even think Tinubu even if I am Yoruba, he is still not in anyway related to the article. You dont expect anyone to be considering a man of certain age despite the ordeal Nigerian are going through with the current.
It's not compulsory to accept him but don't insult a man that is loved by an average Yoruba man. Even those who don't to love him in Yoruba get bitter wen u do insult someone like that. Why will u be expecting them to give u favour, things like this doesn't work .

Trust me a Tinubu yes to Igbo support is like final but here u guys are Insulting him on daily bases.

Only u insult Yoruba, Insult Hausa but still want their politcal support. Anyway.
If u don't like me then ignore me, which one be insult again kwa.. u LL hardly see a Yoruba talk bad of Ojukwu, coz he is ur hero but the reverse is the case just to spice the Yoruba region.


E go be bro
Cheers.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by aribisala0(m): 1:15pm On Feb 17, 2022
bjdon:
Cry me a river!
Was an Igbo man not VP to Shagari?
Were Igbo men not Senate presidents in Obasanjo's time
The simple truth is the Igbos hitched their tent with PDP. That worked for a while, but eventually when PDP lost, they found themselves outside the power equation. They need to learn from how the SW built an alliance with the NW. All this boasting, shouting, threatening , crying...is not going to get them anywhere.
You are forgetting something

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by aribisala0(m): 1:18pm On Feb 17, 2022
Sunofgod:
http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/27267-yoruba-elders-meet-jonathan-over-marginalisation
Sunofgod:
GEJ should have just chased them out of the room.

Why even answer their questions.

SMH
aljharem:
this people are funny u know. Just i thought this people want to eat there cake and have it again

they all voted for ACN thus they want regional government ie fedralism

yet they still want the advantages of being in the mainstream politics

abeg make them go sit down angry

when it is time they should go meet tinubu there master
Afam4eva:
Al_harem has spoken the truth. You cannot eat your cake and still want to have. PDP controls the center.So, states that will benefit from the center are PDP states. They should go and meet oga Tinubu if they feel marginalized
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Eastlink(m): 1:48pm On Feb 17, 2022
Walkee:
no, it's not zoned to South south or south East or south West, it's zoned North or south by Pdp. It depends on how influential the candidate is to win the ticket. Primaries mostly based on who has more money to spend. If you are able to get enough delegates you win. Nobody cares if you are from SW, SS or SE

Following your logic, would you say Wike buried his ambition in 2019 for Obi in other to placate IPOBs?
Wike of yesterday. Which political influence did Wike had in 2019? Even Peter Obi got lucky with that ticket as the likes of Ekweremadu and Anyim had to allow GEJ choose VP candidate for the SE. The Presidency is another ball game entirely and Wike and Obi needs a lot of external political machinery to go far, which both lacks.

Wike simply makes noise and is not even influential as Amaechi. For delegates, I can agree with you. But don't forget that getting delegates has changed from how it was in the past to direct primaries. Meaning that a single person cannot sit in his parlour to influence delegates as it was before.

And for zoning, it has been a north and south thing I agree. There's been a secret gentleman agreement by the stakeholders of Nigeria to microzone the Presidency. We saw this after the death of Yar'adua from the NW, when the north clamoured for the Presidency. Instead of going to north central or north east it went back to North West to complete their tenure in Buhari.

The SW and SS cannot request for the Presidency when the SE haven't tasted Presidency nor Vice since the return of democracy. What plea are they coming with in the negotiation table? The SW came with Abiola mandate in 1999 and the stakeholders gifted them the seat for peace and stability, what will they come with this time around?
If the Presidency comes south in 2023, the same stakeholders will make sure it goes SE.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Bonavi: 1:56pm On Feb 17, 2022
EmirGold:
*Reject VP slot
*Vow to sanction any Igbo politician who accepts to be running mate to candidates from other regions
*Threaten to quit Nigeria, if…




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/02/2023-southeast-must-produce-next-president-igbo-elders-insist/
anything outside the presidency for Igbos we are out and nothing can ever change that
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by IPIGSRHYPO: 2:00pm On Feb 17, 2022
Both Igbo elders and the delusional reta@ded brainwashed IPIG terrorist monkey miscreants on NL and in Yebo land always reason and sound like people high on meth and human flesh.
The level of stupidity and shallowness these people exhibit whenever they open their mouths is simply astonishing.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Deltavariant(m): 2:09pm On Feb 17, 2022
Esseite:
But this animosity was not there before.. the alienation escalated it.. you would also confirm that the SW animosity escalated when they felt alienated by the GEJ administration.
It's natural for humans to react when alienated but what we have today from east is something like to cleanse/reorient the country of a certain ethnic identity because natural hatred For example we have a situation whereby the actions of a few crooked individuals is used to generalize a whole ethnic group.
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by citizenY(m): 2:09pm On Feb 17, 2022
omenkaLives:
"South East MUST produce the blablabla".

From the youths to the elders, not a hint of difference. cheesy
Ezeife for president, Omenka as Vp..... How does that soundhuh?
Re: 2023: South East Must Produce Next President, Igbo Elders Insist by Eastlink(m): 2:10pm On Feb 17, 2022
Deadlytruth:
The difference is that the blackmails of the SS, SW and NW were all directed at the FG and therefore attracted sympathy and support from the other regions unlike that of the SE which is directed more at other tribes and regions than at the FG hence attracting disgust and resistance from these other regions and tribes.
If you Easterners had focused on the FG alone all this while without bringing in other regions and even twisting history against them, you wouldn't have needed all these talks of fairness and equity to get all other Nigerian tribes queue behind you. But your insults since 2015 on account of the self inflicted loss of Jonathan who is not even from your SE has complicated everything. There is no equity or fairness, either, in twisting history against others and insulting them continually for 8 years running.
I suppose the innocent civilians killed in the SW by OPC and other sponsored groups during the Oso Abiola and killings of Hausa traders by the Yoruba from 1993-1999 was directed at the federal government? I suppose the burning of innocent non-Yoruba by OPC under the guise of cleansing the SW of criminals was directed at the federal government?

I suppose the Sharia riots in the north from 2001-2006 which culminated to Miss World riots, Reinhard Bonnke riots, Kano riots, Maiduguri riots, Jos riots, Kaduna riots and numerous other killings, was directed at the federal government? I suppose the Abuja bombings, Madala church bombing, Boko Haram slaughter of innocent civilians and terrorism was directed at the government?

I suppose the killing of military and police men by militants was directed at the Federal government? The Warri riots masterminded by Tompolo on the Itshekiri, the kidnap of both foreign and local oil workers for ransom with the unlucky killed for non-payment, the pipeline blow up was directed at the federal government. Even the Eagle Square Abuja bombing by Orkar of MEND that killed scores was directed at the federal government.

So tell me the difference between the activities of these groups and the UGM/IPOB in the SE? Infact IPOB is still a learner compared to the chaos of OPC and northern Sharia. The country is this way because we tend to appraise the crime of one group while vilify others. If the government had apprehended and punished criminals and mass murderers in the past instead of rewarding them do you think you'll have such antecendent rear it's ugly head? What is bad is bad and what is good is good. Let the eagle perch and let the kite perch, whoever say one shouldn't will have his wings broken.
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