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Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 10:36am On Feb 20, 2022
AntiChristian:
Jesus was meant to be called Immanuel.
Who did you say called him by that name again?
Muhammad was meant to be called Ahmad? Who called him that name?

Was he named Ahmad or Muhammad by his grandfather?
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by AntiChristian(op): 10:39am On Feb 20, 2022
advocatejare:
Muhammad was meant to be called Ahmad? Who called him that name?

Was he named Ahmad or Muhammad by his grandfather?
This is a thread for where Jesus was called Immanuel. I won't teach you Arabic here.
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 10:41am On Feb 20, 2022
AntiChristian:
This is a thread for where Jesus was called Immanuel. I won't teach you Arabic here.
I’m not asking you to teach me Arabic I’m only asking you to show me where muhammad was ever called Ahmad by people of his days!
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by GreatAxeMan: 10:47am On Feb 20, 2022
Because you cannot answer! MÛDSLÎMÉS have no answer to any serious question that is asked about their stupid religion!


OBALOLA55:
IGNORED!
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:53am On Feb 20, 2022
advocatejare:
I’m not asking you to teach me Arabic I’m only asking you to show me where muhammad was ever called Ahmad by people of his days!
AntiChristian is this question hard for allah to answer through you?
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 10:55am On Feb 20, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
AntiChristian is this question hard for allah to answer through you?
Don’t mind Antichristian, he thinks that he can use style to evade the question!
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by AntiChristian(op): 10:56am On Feb 20, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
AntiChristian is this question hard for allah to answer through you?
Where was Jesus called Immanuel?
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by AntiChristian(op): 10:58am On Feb 20, 2022
advocatejare:
I’m not asking you to teach me Arabic I’m only asking you to show me where muhammad was ever called Ahmad by people of his days!
Where was Jesus called Immanuel as Prophecised in Isaiah?
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 11:00am On Feb 20, 2022
AntiChristian:
Where was Jesus called Immanuel as Prophecised in Isaiah?
Where was muhammad called Ahmad as revealed in Surah 61:6?
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by AntiChristian(op): 11:06am On Feb 20, 2022
advocatejare:
Where was muhammad called Ahmad as revealed in Surah 61:6?
Seems you are bent on derailing this thread from the OP.

Na to just report you to the mods remain!

Where was Jesus called Immanuel is the topic here!
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by efficiencie(m): 11:18am On Feb 20, 2022
AntiChristian:
Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

Jesus spent 33 years on Earth but not one person ever called him Immanuel.

There must have been another virgin birth Prophet Isaiah was talking about!
Every time anyone acknowledges Jesus to be LORD or Son of GOD (which implies calling Jesus GOD) they are actually declaring that GOD is with them (Immanuel). In Matthew 8: 2 a leper referred to Jesus as LORD. In Matthew 8: 6 Jarius referred to Jesus as LORD. In Matthew 8: 8 the roman centurion referred to Jesus as LORD. In Matthew 12: 8 Jesus declares himself the LORD of the Sabbath thereby equating Himself with GOD. Jesus declares that disciples are right when they refer to Him as LORD and Master (John 13: 13). Jesus told His disciples to keep His commandments (John 14: 21). Who else can give law if not the lawgiver? Matthew 16: 16 Peter referred to Jesus as the Christ, the Son of the living GOD. To declare Jesus is the Son of GOD is to declare that Jesus is GOD (John 10: 30) and they Jews recognized this and it was for this purpose they wanted to kill Him (John 10: 33).
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 11:24am On Feb 20, 2022
AntiChristian:
Seems you are bent on derailing this thread from the OP.

Na to just report you to the mods remain!

Where was Jesus called Immanuel is the topic here!
Report me?

You ask a question and I’ve answered you, now I’ve asked you a similar question and you’re crying

I ask again, who called Muhammad Ahmad among the people of his time when he was alive?
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by cornelboy(f): 11:40am On Feb 20, 2022
Jesus was never called so! That prophecy is a failed one if you can't show us who called him Immanuel
I'll take this as your personal opinion based on your hatred for the bible.

If Jesus was called Immanuel and it wasn't recorded in your Bible then your Bible is incomplete.
The bible never claim to be complete. It's the Koran that claimed to be a miraculous book send by Allah and fully detailed and explained, and so on smiley and you know yourself that it's a false claim.
The Koran is filled with unintelligible words that cannot be translated or their meaning is too ambiguous. Translators had to put their guess work.
You can't understand the Koran without the help of Hadiths
How can the fulfilment of a prophecy not be recorded?
How many fufilled prophecies were recorded in the Koran?
AntiChristian:
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Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by bobestman(m):
The Christians are in strong delusion. Islam and Judaism are not left out too. You people keep fighting yourselves but can't see that you all are in great Ignorance or Blindness. The root meaning of what they gave you all as Sin is Blindness - Inability to see or know what the Truth was
I had told you all that everyone is in gross darkness and all await that light before they can see clearly or know the Truth - Isaiah 60:1-3. Without that Light coming to save His people from blindness or darkness or Ignorance or Sin NON of you can know the truth. That's why it's written in the book of the Revelations that the Devil will decieve the World. The Elects are not left out....who are you? Do you even know who are the Elects?

The English Word you all use and teach many things they twisted into Scripture for you all is not up to 1200yrs old while your indigenous African languages are by far greater than it. You all speak English today but don't know what really hàppened.

You all are lifting your shoulders high, teaching rubbish and quarrelling among yourselves when you all know not the root of all you claim to teach. The book that was plagiarized to get your Bible, Koran, mordern day Torah, non of you know. That book, the people of that book and their God has nothing to do with any of your Religions. Anyone who will do what is right by following that true Way or forgotten Ancient path when it's Revealed by that great light many of you call different names in your Religions, is counted in. What's pleases that Ancient people's God is for all to work Rightly. No Religionis attached.
All your Religions only know the Truth in bits. It's that Truth that will be Revealed with those He chooses to tell you all what you don't know and expose your Religions cos He gave you all non but a Way all had forgotten today

Whether Emmanuel or Immanuel all speak of a great LIGHT who will be revealed in the time of a great darkness or Ignorance among his people to set them free and restore them. He is the chosen Messiah. The chosen Son of Ele.
English is a snake tongues and they stole from your indigenous African languages to get whatever they gave you

The root words in Emmanuel is
Manu and Ele
Manu/Manu/Mmadu/ means Man in the ancient people's tongue
Ele is the forgoten name of God Almighty . EzekiEL and other names ending with EL tells you of Ele/El/ Eledumare the great God of the Ancient or first people of the earth.
ManuEle is man from above. God man. Half man, half God. A great one. A great Light. The chosen Messiah. The chosen Son. The Restorer of the Kingdom. The Light of the World that will destroy Ignorance/blindness/sin

And now like the attached pic, many of your Biblical stories happened that way but was twisted and given to other people and locations. That's how the Pink men decieved you all when they Colonized you (African). They turned all you stories and put you in a great Amnesia/mental darkness which is also one of the curses of disobedience in Deuteronomy 28.
You see now that you all can't see without that Light coming to tell you how they decieved you. You all are in a Modern day Slavery but your brains is what was Colonized

Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by AntiChristian(op): 12:35pm On Feb 20, 2022
cornelboy:
I'll take this as your personal opinion based on your hatred for the bible.


The bible never claim to be complete. It's the Koran that claimed to be a miraculous book send by Allah and fully detailed and explained, and so on smiley and you know yourself that it's a false claim.
The Koran is filled with unintelligible words that cannot be translated or their meaning is too ambiguous. Translators had to put their guess work.
You can't understand the Koran without the help of Hadiths


How many fufilled prophecies were recorded in the Koran?
No be Qu'ran we dey talk about here. I go dey report you as derailing threads from now.

I don't know why you Christians are like this.
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by MrCodeSolo:
MaxInDHouse:
Immanuel simply means "God is with us" that's why Apostle John started his gospel with this opening words:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. John 1:1
So just has God proved to be with his people through His representative Moses who was God, He also proved to be with them through Jesus who was God! smiley
small tin dem go say we muslims no understand bible. Is your believe in holy trinity confused? Eh! I'm asking u? From ur john1:1 reading u juxtapose the jehovah witness bible i.e new world translation of the holy spirit bible with old king james bible. And u even got a like self ontop your irregularity statement. "Is it and the word was God?" abi u actually mean to say; "and the word was a god?", just exactly as it is written in the jehovah witness bible. Apastor paul of tarsus really confused una finish given his 14yrs educational background in judaism bible. Now see mormorism, jehovah witness xtians today
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by OBALOLA55(m): 2:52pm On Feb 20, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Max told answered you that "Immanuel" means God with us.

So the next reasonable question therefore is "was God with us?"

Mathew 8:8 and Luke 5:8 Answers you, son of Satan.

O Lord Come and let Satan and all his children like these be destroyed forever!
WHAT IS THE HEBREW OR ARAMAIC NAME OF GOD WITH US
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by OBALOLA55(m): 2:56pm On Feb 20, 2022
advocatejare:
Jesus himself said it that once you see him, you have seen the father “God with us”

John 14:9
Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Now it is time to answer my question:
According to your Quran Surah 61:6 Jesus was said to have named someone called Ahmad as his successor and that the name Ahmad is in the Torah:

Show us where in the Torah the name Ahmad was mentioned

Show us where Muhammad was called Ahmad while he was alive: show us from the authentic Hadith
NO VISION CAN CAPTURE THE IMAGE OF GOD


READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK VERY WELL
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by cornelboy(f): 2:57pm On Feb 20, 2022
Matthew 7:1-6
[1]“Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.
[2]For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged.
[3]“And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own?
[4]How can you think of saying to your friend, ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye?
[5]Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.
[6]“Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you.

cheesy cheesy you can do anything you want to do. I don't have anything against the Muslims. But when you go about degrading the bible and christian faith, be sure to get corresponding response.

The Koran contains thousands of contradictions and abrogations. Deal with it first before judging the HOLY BIBLE

AntiChristian:
No be Qu'ran we dey talk about here. I go dey report you as derailing threads from now.

I don't know why you Christians are like this.
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by OBALOLA55(m): 3:00pm On Feb 20, 2022
advocatejare:
Muhammad was meant to be called Ahmad? Who called him that name?

Was he named Ahmad or Muhammad by his grandfather?
SHORT FORM OF MUHAMMAD IS AHMAD AND THAT WAS WHAT ALL THE PROPHETS THAT PROPHESIED ABOUT HIS COMING CALLED HIM, EVEN CHRIST CALLED HIM AHMAD IN THE ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 3:31pm On Feb 20, 2022
OBALOLA55:
SHORT FORM OF MUHAMMAD IS AHMAD
So which one did his grandfather name him?

How come Allah never called him Ahmad?


How come nobody ever called him Ahmad?

AND THAT WAS WHAT ALL THE PROPHETS THAT PROPHESIED ABOUT HIS COMING CALLED HIM,
Mention the names of those prophets and in the books where we can find those prophecies

EVEN CHRIST CALLED HIM AHMAD IN THE ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT
Where did you see the original manuscript?

How come only u Muslims make such erroneous claims?


Show us the manuscript!
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 3:34pm On Feb 20, 2022
OBALOLA55:
NO VISION CAN CAPTURE THE IMAGE OF GOD


READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK VERY WELL
In your Quran Allah spoke directly to Moses and handed him the tablets of the testaments

Surah 7:145
“ And We wrote for him on the tablets of all things - instruction and explanation for all things, "Take them with determination and order your people to take the best of it. I will show you the home of the defiantly disobedient."
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by OBALOLA55(m): 3:47pm On Feb 20, 2022
advocatejare:
In your Quran Allah spoke directly to Moses and handed him the tablets of the testaments

Surah 7:145
“ And We wrote for him on the tablets of all things - instruction and explanation for all things, "Take them with determination and order your people to take the best of it. I will show you the home of the defiantly disobedient."
SO MOSES SAW GOD shocked
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by Dtruthspeaker: 3:51pm On Feb 20, 2022
OBALOLA55:
WHAT IS THE HEBREW OR ARAMAIC NAME OF [b]GOD WITH US[/b]L
Just like if anyone asks me "what is the Anang name of God with us", I would say "I don't care to know"
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by OBALOLA55(m): 3:55pm On Feb 20, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Just like if anyone asks me "what is the Anang name of God with us", I would say "I don't care to know"
ARE YOU SAYING THAT JEWS OF HIS TIME DID NOT CALL HIM EMMANUEL IN THEIR NATIVE TONGUE shocked

SHOULD IT NOT HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED shocked
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:56pm On Feb 20, 2022
MrCodeSolo:
small tin dem go say we muslims no understand bible. Is your believe in holy trinity confused? Eh! I'm asking u? From ur john1:1 reading u juxtapose the jehovah witness bible i.e new world translation of the holy spirit bible with old king james bible. And u even got a like self ontop your irregularity statement. "Is it and the word was God?" abi u actually mean to say; "and the word was a god?", just exactly as it is written in the jehovah witness bible. Apastor paul of tarsus really confused una finish given his 14yrs educational background in judaism bible. Now see mormorism, jehovah witness xtians today
Guy, i was a Muslim just like you before i got converted to Christianity so if you want to ask me any question just calm down and let's discuss it here. I know how bitter Muslims feel when it comes to anyone talking about God in a way your religion doesn't approve but this time around try to use that word "understand" to follow up. Please we don't need to quote anything that's inapplicable because we know God wants us to understand Him before we can think of worshiping Him! smiley
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 3:59pm On Feb 20, 2022
OBALOLA55:
SO MOSES SAW GOD shocked
I’ve just shown you from your Quran
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by OBALOLA55(m): 4:03pm On Feb 20, 2022
advocatejare:
I’ve just shown you from your Quran
SO YOU DON’T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ‘TALK’ AND ‘SEE’


I THINK SAY UNA DEY WATCH BIG BROTHER REALITY SHOW grin
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by Janosky: 4:05pm On Feb 20, 2022
MrCodeSolo:
small tin dem go say we muslims no understand bible. Is your believe in holy trinity confused? Eh! I'm asking u? From ur john1:1 reading u juxtapose the jehovah witness bible i.e new world translation of the holy spirit bible with old king james bible. And u even got a like self ontop your irregularity statement. "Is it and the word was God?" abi u actually mean to say; "and the word was a god?", just exactly as it is written in the jehovah witness bible. Apastor paul of tarsus really confused una finish given his 14yrs educational background in judaism bible. Now see mormorism, jehovah witness xtians today


No, your claim not true.
" the word was a god?" Emphatic Diaglott and 14 other Bible translations.
Your Bible at Acts 28:6 agreed that "was a god", Greek 1510 2316, NWT is accurate and acceptable.

Greek 1510 (was) 2316 (Theos) a god.
Greek 1510 2316 was a god,Acts28:6/John 1:1.

Greek John 1:1,4:24, 14:1, Greek 3588 2316 the God ho Theos is NOT, NEVER Jesus Christ!
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 4:16pm On Feb 20, 2022
OBALOLA55:
SO YOU DON’T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ‘TALK’ AND ‘SEE’


I THINK SAY UNA DEY WATCH BIG BROTHER REALITY SHOW grin
How did Allah hand over the tablets to Moses?

Allah said he wrote on the tablets and handed it over to Moses
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by advocatejare(m): 4:23pm On Feb 20, 2022
OBALOLA55:
SO YOU DON’T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ‘TALK’ AND ‘SEE’


I THINK SAY UNA DEY WATCH BIG BROTHER REALITY SHOW grin
Allah said that Ibrahim was his intimate friend, don’t you see your intimate friend?

Surah 4:125
“ And who is better in religion than one who submits himself to Allāh while being a doer of good and follows the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth? And Allāh took Abraham as an intimate friend.”
Re: Who Was Called Immanuel In The New Testament? Jesus Prophecy Busted! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:24pm On Feb 20, 2022
Janosky:


No, your claim not true.
" the word was a god?" Emphatic Diaglott and 14 other Bible translations.
Your Bible at Acts 28:6 agreed that "was a god", Greek 1510 2316, NWT is accurate and acceptable.

Greek 1510 (was) 2316 (Theos) a god.
Greek 1510 2316 was a god,Acts28:6/John 1:1.

Greek John 1:1,4:24, 14:1, Greek 3588 2316 the God ho Theos is NOT, NEVER Jesus Christ!
What any sincere Muslim need is calmness and sincerity.
Most of my people in Islam aren't calm and those having titles aren't sincere, they just want to keep their titles so even when they see things clearly they will say "i like you JWs" instead of humbly accepting the truth they will just acknowledge you have what it takes to convince them but they want to keep Islam despite the fact that both Islam and Christianity isn't our ancestral form of worship! smiley
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