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Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by MisfitHPG: 6:17pm On Feb 20, 2022
dawnomike:
The world knows that already... That's the past
your world
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by paulolee(m): 6:36pm On Feb 20, 2022
nickyvil:
Messi won 2015 ballon dior so I don't know how you came up with C.ronaldo
sorry I meant 2013 dt Bayern won all trophies
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by nickyvil: 7:08pm On Feb 20, 2022
paulolee:
sorry I meant 2013 dt Bayern won all trophies
Go back to my first post, we are saying the same thing, I'm not here to debate but I'm just saying wining trophies doesn't guaranteed a player to win an individual awards. So there is biased.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Happened: 8:44pm On Feb 20, 2022
paulolee:
Both were same on goals n assist on last year stats, both won domestic titles n none won d ucl..
messi had the edge by winning d copa bt lewa did nothing in Euros... [color=#d7e0c9]RCCG Night Prayers[/color]
lewa is having another superb season n muller should advise his guy to try n pass d world cup play off next month bcoz no matter his individual stats this year, ballon d or cnt b given to a player dt cnt even make it to d world cup in a world cup year..
its better muller explain it to lewa now dts its early before lewa n his comrades would start singing day light robbery wen another player with less doinz individually but a nice world cup performance would win the balloon ahead of him dis year...
Modric won d ballon in a year dt messi had d best individual stat BT finished 5th n the journalist dt voted weren't attacked....hypocrites..
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 9:55pm On Feb 20, 2022
Maobichek:
Let's look at it being a world cup year, Wesley after eliminating Barca and winning UCL, came to world cup and played till final against Spain and lost 1-0 while German thrash Argentina 4-0 at knockout stage which Messi, Millito, Tevez, Otamendi, Macherano etc played.

If you watched UCL final; Inter against Bayern where Bayern was the favourite before the match, you would remember the first goal of Diego Milito was from Wesley assistance and at the world cup, he was visible playing till the final against Spain.

If Modic got the Balon d'Or because he won UCL and played world cup finals and lost against France, why would Messi that was eliminated by Inter at the UCL, lost 4-0 to Germany at the knockout stage at world cup emerged as the Balon d'Or winner in 2010?

Ppl saying that Lewe was robbed didn't even know that Wesley was robbed more than Lewe.

Messi have won 2021 Balon d'Or but he definitely is not proud of the award and if he is called again for this season, his conscience will not even allow him to accept it because this has been his worst season ever, thank you.
Let's assume Sneijder was robbed, was he also robbed by UEFA & Seria A for crowning Milito UEFA & Seria A Player of the Year respectively?

Milito was Inter Player of the Year, Seria A & UEFA......Sneijder didn't win Best player in any of the competition he participated even in the WC, he wasn't the Best.

Sneijder never deserved 2010 Balon D'or. His performance was blown outta proportion by those that feels he won treble.

He didn't make top 3 cos his individual stats were not really impressive (4 league & 3 UCL goals in the whole season) maybe if Netherlands had won the world cup, he would have been considered.

To me, Iniesta was a far better candidate in 2010 not Sneijder.....he won the WC and shared every other trophy with Messi.

The only edge Messi had was individual stats cos Messi was UCL top scorer, European Golden Boot Winner & La liga Player of the Year.

He also won La liga, Copa Del Rey, Club World Cup and UEFA Super Cup in 2010.

So in a way, Messi deserve it.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 10:01pm On Feb 20, 2022
nickyvil:
In essence, there is biased, rules are changed just to favored Messi. Wesley S performed than Messi and Iniesta and they were unfortunate not to have won world cup but won all major trophy and came second to Spain still rules where bend to favor Messi.
Let's assume Sneijder was robbed, was he also robbed by UEFA & Seria A for crowning Milito UEFA & Seria A Player of the Year respectively?

Milito was Inter Player of the Year, Seria A & UEFA......Sneijder didn't win Best player in any of the competition he participated even in the WC, he wasn't the Best.

Sneijder never deserved 2010 Balon D'or. His performance was blown outta proportion by those that feels he won treble.

He didn't make top 3 cos his individual stats were not really impressive (4 league & 3 UCL goals in the whole season) maybe if Netherlands had won the world cup, he would have been considered.

To me, Iniesta was a far better candidate in 2010 not Sneijder.....he won the WC and shared every other trophy with Messi.

The only edge Messi had was individual stats cos Messi was UCL top scorer, European Golden Boot Winner & La liga Player of the Year.

He also won La liga, Copa Del Rey, Club World Cup and UEFA Super Cup in 2010.

So in a way, Messi deserve it.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by nickyvil: 10:17pm On Feb 20, 2022
Now go and do a little research, sneijder is uefa best midfielder and there is no person that came close and in the world cup, he was the man more than 3 times, even Jessi didnt come close, he is a midfield and if your looking at goals, then cannavaro and modric won't have won..

OJEEMAH:
Let's assume Sneijder was robbed, was he also robbed by UEFA & Seria A for crowning Milito UEFA & Seria A Player of the Year respectively?

Milito was Inter Player of the Year, Seria A & UEFA......Sneijder didn't win Best player in any of the competition he participated even in the WC, he wasn't the Best.

Sneijder never deserved 2010 Balon D'or. His performance was blown outta proportion by those that feels he won treble.

He didn't make top 3 cos his individual stats were not really impressive (4 league & 3 UCL goals in the whole season) maybe if Netherlands had won the world cup, he would have been considered.

To me, Iniesta was a far better candidate in 2010 not Sneijder.....he won the WC and shared every other trophy with Messi.

The only edge Messi had was individual stats cos Messi was UCL top scorer, European Golden Boot Winner & La liga Player of the Year.

He also won La liga, Copa Del Rey, Club World Cup and UEFA Super Cup in 2010.

So in a way, Messi deserve it.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 10:39pm On Feb 20, 2022
paulolee:
club performance wasnt fantastic bt he had almost same goals n assit with lewa n none won d ucl..
messi had 56 n lewa had 62 with jus 8 difference bt u guys are making It sound asif leo did nothing in barca..
U love telling lies. How did messi score 56 goals?
U messi fans are terrible liars

30 league goals
5 champions league goals
1 league Cup goal
And ur calculations gave you 56
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 10:42pm On Feb 20, 2022
paulolee:
i think in 2010, messi won ahead wesley simply bcoz its a world cup year n club stats dnt count.
Wesley did nothing with holand even if dey reached d finals n dts why forlan won d best player of dt worldcup unlike modric dt was more influential, lost d final n won ballon d or
iniesta av a case of winning dt 2010 than wesley bt FIFA gave messo d same way dey gave cr7 in 2015 wen ribery deserved it more..
lastly, messi ballon d or win was for his performance in barca n nothing concerns his bad PSG form, mind u, if d same messi perform more than d ballon d or favorites in this worldcup, he may still win it and critics would keep making noise bcox its a world cup year n club stats dnt count dt much except wen d hot shots all flopped in w.c
Damnnn . U are a very terrible liar . Sneijder scored 4 goals and u said he did nothing. Messi scored 0 goals on that world cup. Sneijder played in the final . U really need help.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 10:43pm On Feb 20, 2022
nickyvil:
Now go and do a little research, sneijder is uefa best midfielder and there is no person that came close and in the world cup, he was the man more than 3 times, even Jessi didnt come close, he is a midfield and if your looking at goals, then cannavaro and modric won't have won..
Like you don’t know the difference between UEFA Player of the Year and UEFA Best Midfielder.

Individually, Modric performed far better than Sneijder did in 2010.

Do you even know, Modric won UEFA Player of the Year, Best Midfielder in la liga and Golden ball at the World Cup?

Sneijder never deserved Balon D’or…… na Ronaldo fans dey mention Sneijder cos Messi won it.

I am not saying he should score as much as Messi cos he’s a midfielder but carefully look at his personal stats, you will realize how poor Sneijder was.

Now take away, the treble inter won and judge his stats (G + A) with Messi let’s see if he will even make top 20 in Europe.

If he can’t match Messi in goals, how about assist??

Messi was practically the best player in ucl that year. The only reason Milito defeated him was because Inter won the trophy.

Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 10:49pm On Feb 20, 2022
Slynation:
Trash....!! The aforementioned names you called, where they the best in their respective leagues?? There is a very wide gap between best player in (Arsenal, Mancity, Liverpool) and best player in EPL which you have woefully failed to understand...!! And you calling Copa America below standard shows how sentimental and ignorant you are in the world of football, Argentina won't reach semi's in Euros shows you lack rational and logical thinking, The EPL is highly competitive yenyenyen but Spainish and German teams have dominated/Personalized the champions League...!!

Infact the whole of your post is ridiculed with trash...!!
Counter my post and stop being stupid. Argentina will not make quarter final in the Euros and will even struggle to qualify for Euros. Are u guys outrightly dumb or what? Argentina that could not beat a single European team in the last world cup including Iceland. Mention one European team Argentina have played since the last world cup?? They are busy playing dead South American teams and island teams and u say they are good .
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Slynation(m): 11:07pm On Feb 20, 2022
Beverlyjean:
Counter my post and stop being stupid. Argentina will not make quarter final in the Euros and will even struggle to qualify for Euros. Are u guys outrightly dumb or what? Argentina that could not beat a single European team in the last world cup including Iceland. Mention one European team Argentina have played since the last world cup?? They are busy playing dead South American teams and island teams and u say they are good .
Lol...I have moved on from this topic, yet you came back after 5hrs+ to resurrect it...!! Just look at the yardstick you are using to make a baseless point...!!
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by paulolee(m): 11:33pm On Feb 20, 2022
Beverlyjean:
Damnnn . U are a very terrible liar . Sneijder scored 4 goals and u said he did nothing. Messi scored 0 goals on that world cup. Sneijder played in the final . U really need help.
lolz...he scored 4 goals BT an older forlan dt scored 5 n ended up in 3rd position won the best player of the tournament ahead of a wesley dt took 2nd n even played in d fina, it teaches u nothing.??
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by paulolee(m): 11:34pm On Feb 20, 2022
Beverlyjean:
U love telling lies. How did messi score 56 goals?
U messi fans are terrible liars

30 league goals
5 champions league goals
1 league Cup goal
And ur calculations gave you 56
the chat is on d f.p...m talking about his total goals n assist for club n country during dt duration....read n comprehend bro
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by iezeiyida(m): 11:38pm On Feb 20, 2022
cktheluckyman:
It was Gerd Muller who held the record and not Thomas Muller
Yeah that's true

Thanks
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 12:22am On Feb 21, 2022
paulolee:
lolz...he scored 4 goals BT an older forlan dt scored 5 n ended up in 3rd position won the best player of the tournament ahead of a wesley dt took 2nd n even played in d fina, it teaches u nothing.??
What the hell u saying, so what of forlan was older?? How do u even think?? Messi that was 22yrs and 4 yrs younger than Sneijder could not even score one goal despite playing Nigeria, South Korea, Greece, Mexico. Sneijder scored Brazil Denmark and Uruguay. The problem with messi fans is that they will never accept the truth . Terrible people
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by nickyvil: 5:09am On Feb 21, 2022
Then you don't know anything about soccer, there are biased, sneijder in 2010 is far better than modric whos stats are very poor, Now for your info, sneijder scored 5goals and 1 asst in world cup and decisive match even against Brazil and was the most man of the match, which Modric hardly scored and talk about club, sneijder out perform and stats so perfect. The journal who vote always have Fav which is Messi. Ronaldo performed than modric, had goals and assist than him but modric won. I love the fact that he won but you can't compare its stats with sneijder of 2010. He is the pillar of inter.

OJEEMAH:
Like you don’t know the difference between UEFA Player of the Year and UEFA Best Midfielder.

Individually, Modric performed far better than Sneijder did in 2010.

Do you even know, Modric won UEFA Player of the Year, Best Midfielder in la liga and Golden ball at the World Cup?

Sneijder never deserved Balon D’or…… na Ronaldo fans dey mention Sneijder cos Messi won it.

I am not saying he should score as much as Messi cos he’s a midfielder but carefully look at his personal stats, you will realize how poor Sneijder was.

Now take away, the treble inter won and judge his stats (G + A) with Messi let’s see if he will even make top 20 in Europe.

If he can’t match Messi in goals, how about assist??

Messi was practically the best player in ucl that year. The only reason Milito defeated him was because Inter won the trophy.

Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Maobichek: 7:29am On Feb 21, 2022
[quote author=OJEEMAH post=110400224]Let's assume Sneijder was robbed, was he also robbed by UEFA & Seria A for crowning Milito UEFA & Seria A Player of the Year respectively?

Milito was Inter Player of the Year, Seria A & UEFA......Sneijder didn't win Best player in any of the competition he participated even in the WC, he wasn't the Best.

Sneijder never deserved 2010 Balon D'or. His performance was blown outta proportion by those that feels he won treble.

He didn't make top 3 cos his individual stats were not really impressive (4 league & 3 UCL goals in the whole season) maybe if Netherlands had won the world cup, he would have been considered.

To me, Iniesta was a far better candidate in 2010 not Sneijder.....he won the WC and shared every other trophy with Messi.

The only edge Messi had was individual stats cos Messi was UCL top scorer, European Golden Boot Winner & La liga Player of the Year.

He also won La liga, Copa Del Rey, Club World Cup and UEFA Super Cup in 2010.

So in a way, Messi deserve it.

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Good morning, i brought the issue of sneidjer up because the guy i quoted maintained that Messi won 2021 Balon d'Or because of team achievement and not personal performance and stat; i stressed that Jorginho of Chelsea/Italy was better in team achievement more than Messi last year.

Now you have revarted back to personal performance and stat which has always been the basis for deciding who wins Balon d'Or. 2021 season, Lewe won more accolades and was more pronounced than Messi. 2021 is gone and we are looking at 2022, both Messi, Lewe and others are playing so let's watch out.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by KreativSquare: 8:44am On Feb 21, 2022
Beverlyjean:
Counter my post and stop being stupid. Argentina will not make quarter final in the Euros and will even struggle to qualify for Euros. Are u guys outrightly dumb or what? Argentina that could not beat a single European team in the last world cup including Iceland. Mention one European team Argentina have played since the last world cup?? They are busy playing dead South American teams and island teams and u say they are good .
Lol struggle to qualify against Lithuania, Luxembourg, Andorra, Lativia, Estonia, Faroe island, Armeniahuh The teams Ronaldo statpad against? grin grin grin

Which drugs are you on?
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 8:53am On Feb 21, 2022
[quote author=Maobichek post=110406527][/quote]Lewandoski was the clear favourite for 2020 but 2021 is debatable.

Personally, Messi had a good season (League Top Scorer) but Barcelona achieved little (3rd in the league & Copa Del Rey).

Lewandoski was European Golden Boot winner and also won Bundes liga and CWC.

Messi covered the trophy gap by winning Copa America, Player of the Tournament, Top scorer and player with most goal assist.

Meanwhile, Lewandoski and Poland had a poor outing.

I need you to understand goal is not the sole determinant for the award.

And if that was the case here, Messi would not have finished 5th in 2018

If Bayern had won the ucl like they did in 2020, nothing would have stopped him from winning.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m):
nickyvil:
Then you don't know anything about soccer, there are biased, sneijder in 2010 is far better than modric whos stats are very poor, Now for your info, sneijder scored 5goals and 1 asst in world cup and decisive match even against Brazil and was the most man of the match, which Modric hardly scored and talk about club, sneijder out perform and stats so perfect. The journal who vote always have Fav which is Messi. Ronaldo performed than modric, had goals and assist than him but modric won. I love the fact that he won but you can't compare its stats with sneijder of 2010. He is the pillar of inter.
Iniesta was far better than Sneijder. Sneijder was not as outstanding as you guys made it look. Like i said before, he wasn't the best player in Inter, he wasn't the best in Seria A and still wasn't the best in UCL....... simply because Netherlands played world cup final, you guys think he deserved Balon D'or.

I laugh in spanish...............Pillar of Netherlands that had RVP, Van Bommel & informed Robben??
or Pillar of Inter Milan that had Eto & Milito??

I showed you what Modric achieved in UCL and WC, you still dey compare am with Sneijder.

If Sneijder was that good and influential as you claim, how come he couldn't scoop Best Player Award in any of the competition he participated?
To think that he was beaten by his teammate is enough proof.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 9:52am On Feb 21, 2022
KreativSquare:
Lol struggle to qualify against Lithuania, Luxembourg, Andorra, Lativia, Estonia, Faroe island, Armeniahuh The teams Ronaldo statpad against? grin grin grin

Which drugs are you on?
Just like messi stat pads against Bolivia, Venezuela and Peru. He has never scored Uruguay Brazil or Colombia in the copa despite playing them multiple times, and just scored Chile for the first time in the last copa just cos Chile is now a weak side . The midget is a fraud. Argentina will struggle against serbia ,Poland and Turkey. Will loose to Denmark, Switzerland, Russia and Sweden
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by nickyvil: 9:52am On Feb 21, 2022
Why am I even arguing with you self, bring both statistic here and compare. Now I know you don't know anything about soccer, the only player in NL that won individual awards is sneijder, and no one came close to him and in was the highest scorer with 5 goals in the same squad. This will be the last replied you will get from me. Both club and country, He performed than modric, modric with only 1 goal world cup and 1 assist, you want to compare that with him, for your info, sneijder scored important goal winner even against Barcelona and have more goals and assist than modric, it was biased and same happened during cannavaro too cos I don't see what cannavaro did to deserve the world best player where the likes of zidane and all are. So there are always biased and not based on merit most times. Modric was lucky to have won it

OJEEMAH:
Iniesta was far better than Sneijder. Sneijder was not as outstanding as you guys made it look. Like i said before, he wasn't the best player in Inter, he wasn't the best in Seria A and still wasn't the best in UCL....... simply because Netherlands played world cup final, you guys think he deserved Balon D'or.

I laugh in spanish...............Pillar of Netherlands that had RVP, Van Bommel & informed Robben??
or Pillar of Inter Milan that had Eto & Milito??

I showed you what Modric achieved in UCL and WC, you still dey compare am with Sneijder.

If Sneijder was that good and influential as you claim, how come he could scoop Best Player Award in any of the competition he participated?
To think that he was beaten by his teammate is enough proof.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 10:04am On Feb 21, 2022
nickyvil:
Why am I even arguing with you self, bring both statistic here and compare. Now I know you don't know anything about soccer, the only player in NL that won individual awards is sneijder, and no one came close to him and in was the highest scorer with 5 goals in the same squad. This will be the last replied you will get from me. Both club and country, He performed than modric, modric with only 1 goal world cup and 1 assist, you want to compare that with him, for your info, sneijder scored important goal winner even against Barcelona and have more goals and assist than modric, it was biased and same happened during cannavaro too cos I don't see what cannavaro did to deserve the world best player where the likes of zidane and all are. So there are always biased and not based on merit most times. Modric was lucky to have won it
compare Sneijder with the winner and those that were nominated (Xavi & Iniesta) and stop dragging Modric into this.

Different things play out in different year

or maybe you should also explain how Messi with the best individual stats backed with 3 trophies finished 5th in 2018

or how Ronaldo won 2013 without a single trophy?

or how Ronaldo defeated Neuer that won WC in 2014.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by KreativSquare: 7:59pm On Feb 21, 2022
Beverlyjean:
Just like messi stat pads against Bolivia, Venezuela and Peru. He has never scored Uruguay Brazil or Colombia in the copa despite playing them multiple times, and just scored Chile for the first time in the last copa just cos Chile is now a weak side . The midget is a fraud. Argentina will struggle against serbia ,Poland and Turkey. Will loose to Denmark, Switzerland, Russia and Sweden
Lol.. Do you hear yourself atall... grin

I think you need to go and check the performance of south America teams in the world. Cus it seems you know nothing about football

Nine of ten members of the South American Football Confederation have competed in the men's FIFA World Cup finals.

And as small as they are they've won 9 world cups.

And none of south America countries is rank below 50 in the world ranking.

None of those European teams you mentioned has tasted world cup not even quarter final, they are not even ranked among the top 50 countries and you are telling me Argentina will struggle against those ones?

Are you on weed or something? grin grin grin grin

Go and ask your Ronaldo about Uruguay! Ode grin grin grin
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 10:29pm On Feb 22, 2022
KreativSquare:
Lol.. Do you hear yourself atall... grin

I think you need to go and check the performance of south America teams in the world. Cus it seems you know nothing about football

Nine of ten members of the South American Football Confederation have competed in the men's FIFA World Cup finals.

And as small as they are they've won 9 world cups.

And none of south America countries is rank below 50 in the world ranking.

None of those European teams you mentioned has tasted world cup not even quarter final, they are not even ranked among the top 50 countries and you are telling me Argentina will struggle against those ones?

Are you on weed or something? grin grin grin grin

Go and ask your Ronaldo about Uruguay! Ode grin grin grin
U are a clown , talking about stats of over half a century ago. Past glory grin grin. Very soon you will compare Peugeot to Toyota and Honda because they did will in the 70s . Y dint u mention the Portuguese and Dutch league as champions league super powers as they dominated the 60s and 70s grin grin
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Maobichek: 1:19am On Mar 10, 2022
assholemods:
What is this one saying?
Good morning, last night match between Madrid vs PSG showed what i said; Messi is good but not the best currently, thank you.
Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by assholemods: 6:09am On Mar 10, 2022
Maobichek:
Good morning, last night match between Madrid vs PSG showed what i said; Messi is good but not the best currently, thank you.
Messi will not remain be the best forever, players come and go. Good morning.
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