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| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by MisfitHPG: 6:17pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
dawnomike:your world |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by paulolee(m): 6:36pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
nickyvil:sorry I meant 2013 dt Bayern won all trophies |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by nickyvil: 7:08pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
paulolee:Go back to my first post, we are saying the same thing, I'm not here to debate but I'm just saying wining trophies doesn't guaranteed a player to win an individual awards. So there is biased. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Happened: 8:44pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
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| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 9:55pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
Maobichek:Let's assume Sneijder was robbed, was he also robbed by UEFA & Seria A for crowning Milito UEFA & Seria A Player of the Year respectively? Milito was Inter Player of the Year, Seria A & UEFA......Sneijder didn't win Best player in any of the competition he participated even in the WC, he wasn't the Best. Sneijder never deserved 2010 Balon D'or. His performance was blown outta proportion by those that feels he won treble. He didn't make top 3 cos his individual stats were not really impressive (4 league & 3 UCL goals in the whole season) maybe if Netherlands had won the world cup, he would have been considered. To me, Iniesta was a far better candidate in 2010 not Sneijder.....he won the WC and shared every other trophy with Messi. The only edge Messi had was individual stats cos Messi was UCL top scorer, European Golden Boot Winner & La liga Player of the Year. He also won La liga, Copa Del Rey, Club World Cup and UEFA Super Cup in 2010. So in a way, Messi deserve it. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 10:01pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
nickyvil:Let's assume Sneijder was robbed, was he also robbed by UEFA & Seria A for crowning Milito UEFA & Seria A Player of the Year respectively? Milito was Inter Player of the Year, Seria A & UEFA......Sneijder didn't win Best player in any of the competition he participated even in the WC, he wasn't the Best. Sneijder never deserved 2010 Balon D'or. His performance was blown outta proportion by those that feels he won treble. He didn't make top 3 cos his individual stats were not really impressive (4 league & 3 UCL goals in the whole season) maybe if Netherlands had won the world cup, he would have been considered. To me, Iniesta was a far better candidate in 2010 not Sneijder.....he won the WC and shared every other trophy with Messi. The only edge Messi had was individual stats cos Messi was UCL top scorer, European Golden Boot Winner & La liga Player of the Year. He also won La liga, Copa Del Rey, Club World Cup and UEFA Super Cup in 2010. So in a way, Messi deserve it. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by nickyvil: 10:17pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
Now go and do a little research, sneijder is uefa best midfielder and there is no person that came close and in the world cup, he was the man more than 3 times, even Jessi didnt come close, he is a midfield and if your looking at goals, then cannavaro and modric won't have won.. OJEEMAH: |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 10:39pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
paulolee:U love telling lies. How did messi score 56 goals? U messi fans are terrible liars 30 league goals 5 champions league goals 1 league Cup goal And ur calculations gave you 56 |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 10:42pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
paulolee:Damnnn . U are a very terrible liar . Sneijder scored 4 goals and u said he did nothing. Messi scored 0 goals on that world cup. Sneijder played in the final . U really need help. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 10:43pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
nickyvil:Like you don’t know the difference between UEFA Player of the Year and UEFA Best Midfielder. Individually, Modric performed far better than Sneijder did in 2010. Do you even know, Modric won UEFA Player of the Year, Best Midfielder in la liga and Golden ball at the World Cup? Sneijder never deserved Balon D’or…… na Ronaldo fans dey mention Sneijder cos Messi won it. I am not saying he should score as much as Messi cos he’s a midfielder but carefully look at his personal stats, you will realize how poor Sneijder was. Now take away, the treble inter won and judge his stats (G + A) with Messi let’s see if he will even make top 20 in Europe. If he can’t match Messi in goals, how about assist?? Messi was practically the best player in ucl that year. The only reason Milito defeated him was because Inter won the trophy.
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| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 10:49pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
Slynation:Counter my post and stop being stupid. Argentina will not make quarter final in the Euros and will even struggle to qualify for Euros. Are u guys outrightly dumb or what? Argentina that could not beat a single European team in the last world cup including Iceland. Mention one European team Argentina have played since the last world cup?? They are busy playing dead South American teams and island teams and u say they are good . |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Slynation(m): 11:07pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Lol...I have moved on from this topic, yet you came back after 5hrs+ to resurrect it...!! Just look at the yardstick you are using to make a baseless point...!! |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by paulolee(m): 11:33pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:lolz...he scored 4 goals BT an older forlan dt scored 5 n ended up in 3rd position won the best player of the tournament ahead of a wesley dt took 2nd n even played in d fina, it teaches u nothing.?? |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by paulolee(m): 11:34pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:the chat is on d f.p...m talking about his total goals n assist for club n country during dt duration....read n comprehend bro |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by iezeiyida(m): 11:38pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 12:22am On Feb 21, 2022 |
paulolee:What the hell u saying, so what of forlan was older?? How do u even think?? Messi that was 22yrs and 4 yrs younger than Sneijder could not even score one goal despite playing Nigeria, South Korea, Greece, Mexico. Sneijder scored Brazil Denmark and Uruguay. The problem with messi fans is that they will never accept the truth . Terrible people |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by nickyvil: 5:09am On Feb 21, 2022 |
Then you don't know anything about soccer, there are biased, sneijder in 2010 is far better than modric whos stats are very poor, Now for your info, sneijder scored 5goals and 1 asst in world cup and decisive match even against Brazil and was the most man of the match, which Modric hardly scored and talk about club, sneijder out perform and stats so perfect. The journal who vote always have Fav which is Messi. Ronaldo performed than modric, had goals and assist than him but modric won. I love the fact that he won but you can't compare its stats with sneijder of 2010. He is the pillar of inter. OJEEMAH:
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| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Maobichek: 7:29am On Feb 21, 2022 |
[quote author=OJEEMAH post=110400224]Let's assume Sneijder was robbed, was he also robbed by UEFA & Seria A for crowning Milito UEFA & Seria A Player of the Year respectively? Milito was Inter Player of the Year, Seria A & UEFA......Sneijder didn't win Best player in any of the competition he participated even in the WC, he wasn't the Best. Sneijder never deserved 2010 Balon D'or. His performance was blown outta proportion by those that feels he won treble. He didn't make top 3 cos his individual stats were not really impressive (4 league & 3 UCL goals in the whole season) maybe if Netherlands had won the world cup, he would have been considered. To me, Iniesta was a far better candidate in 2010 not Sneijder.....he won the WC and shared every other trophy with Messi. The only edge Messi had was individual stats cos Messi was UCL top scorer, European Golden Boot Winner & La liga Player of the Year. He also won La liga, Copa Del Rey, Club World Cup and UEFA Super Cup in 2010. So in a way, Messi deserve it. [/quot Good morning, i brought the issue of sneidjer up because the guy i quoted maintained that Messi won 2021 Balon d'Or because of team achievement and not personal performance and stat; i stressed that Jorginho of Chelsea/Italy was better in team achievement more than Messi last year. Now you have revarted back to personal performance and stat which has always been the basis for deciding who wins Balon d'Or. 2021 season, Lewe won more accolades and was more pronounced than Messi. 2021 is gone and we are looking at 2022, both Messi, Lewe and others are playing so let's watch out. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by KreativSquare: 8:44am On Feb 21, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Lol struggle to qualify against Lithuania, Luxembourg, Andorra, Lativia, Estonia, Faroe island, Armenia The teams Ronaldo statpad against? ![]() Which drugs are you on? |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 8:53am On Feb 21, 2022 |
[quote author=Maobichek post=110406527][/quote]Lewandoski was the clear favourite for 2020 but 2021 is debatable. Personally, Messi had a good season (League Top Scorer) but Barcelona achieved little (3rd in the league & Copa Del Rey). Lewandoski was European Golden Boot winner and also won Bundes liga and CWC. Messi covered the trophy gap by winning Copa America, Player of the Tournament, Top scorer and player with most goal assist. Meanwhile, Lewandoski and Poland had a poor outing. I need you to understand goal is not the sole determinant for the award. And if that was the case here, Messi would not have finished 5th in 2018 If Bayern had won the ucl like they did in 2020, nothing would have stopped him from winning. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 9:38am On Feb 21, 2022*. Modified: 9:53am On Feb 21, 2022 |
nickyvil:Iniesta was far better than Sneijder. Sneijder was not as outstanding as you guys made it look. Like i said before, he wasn't the best player in Inter, he wasn't the best in Seria A and still wasn't the best in UCL....... simply because Netherlands played world cup final, you guys think he deserved Balon D'or. I laugh in spanish...............Pillar of Netherlands that had RVP, Van Bommel & informed Robben?? or Pillar of Inter Milan that had Eto & Milito?? I showed you what Modric achieved in UCL and WC, you still dey compare am with Sneijder. If Sneijder was that good and influential as you claim, how come he couldn't scoop Best Player Award in any of the competition he participated? To think that he was beaten by his teammate is enough proof. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 9:52am On Feb 21, 2022 |
KreativSquare:Just like messi stat pads against Bolivia, Venezuela and Peru. He has never scored Uruguay Brazil or Colombia in the copa despite playing them multiple times, and just scored Chile for the first time in the last copa just cos Chile is now a weak side . The midget is a fraud. Argentina will struggle against serbia ,Poland and Turkey. Will loose to Denmark, Switzerland, Russia and Sweden |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by nickyvil: 9:52am On Feb 21, 2022 |
Why am I even arguing with you self, bring both statistic here and compare. Now I know you don't know anything about soccer, the only player in NL that won individual awards is sneijder, and no one came close to him and in was the highest scorer with 5 goals in the same squad. This will be the last replied you will get from me. Both club and country, He performed than modric, modric with only 1 goal world cup and 1 assist, you want to compare that with him, for your info, sneijder scored important goal winner even against Barcelona and have more goals and assist than modric, it was biased and same happened during cannavaro too cos I don't see what cannavaro did to deserve the world best player where the likes of zidane and all are. So there are always biased and not based on merit most times. Modric was lucky to have won it OJEEMAH: |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by OJEEMAH(m): 10:04am On Feb 21, 2022 |
nickyvil:compare Sneijder with the winner and those that were nominated (Xavi & Iniesta) and stop dragging Modric into this. Different things play out in different year or maybe you should also explain how Messi with the best individual stats backed with 3 trophies finished 5th in 2018 or how Ronaldo won 2013 without a single trophy? or how Ronaldo defeated Neuer that won WC in 2014. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by KreativSquare: 7:59pm On Feb 21, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Lol.. Do you hear yourself atall... ![]() I think you need to go and check the performance of south America teams in the world. Cus it seems you know nothing about football Nine of ten members of the South American Football Confederation have competed in the men's FIFA World Cup finals. And as small as they are they've won 9 world cups. And none of south America countries is rank below 50 in the world ranking. None of those European teams you mentioned has tasted world cup not even quarter final, they are not even ranked among the top 50 countries and you are telling me Argentina will struggle against those ones? Are you on weed or something? ![]() Go and ask your Ronaldo about Uruguay! Ode ![]() |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Beverlyjean(f): 10:29pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
KreativSquare:U are a clown , talking about stats of over half a century ago. Past glory . Very soon you will compare Peugeot to Toyota and Honda because they did will in the 70s . Y dint u mention the Portuguese and Dutch league as champions league super powers as they dominated the 60s and 70s ![]() |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by Maobichek: 1:19am On Mar 10, 2022 |
assholemods:Good morning, last night match between Madrid vs PSG showed what i said; Messi is good but not the best currently, thank you. |
| Re: Ballon D’or: Messi Doesn’t Deserve 2021 Award - Muller by assholemods: 6:09am On Mar 10, 2022 |
Maobichek:Messi will not remain be the best forever, players come and go. Good morning. |
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