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mhmsadyq:
Oga, just stop lying you were a member of any of the sects in Islam. Simple!

If nobody ever told you you are lying, i don tell you today.

THE MAN HAS A POOR KNOWLEDGE OF ISLAM AND WON'T STOP CLAIMING OTHERWISE.

motayoayinde:
I'VE HAD A DEBATE WITH YOU IN THE PAST AND IT GAVE YOU AWAY AS ONE WHO KNOWS VERY LITTLE ABOUT ISLAM.

WORST STILL IS THAT YOU'RE TOO ARROGANT TO ACCEPT SO AND TO LEARN WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.

I CONCLUDED (and told you so) THAT NOTHING BUT YOUR POOR KNOWLEDGE OF ISLAM ((if you were ever a Muslim) TURNED YOU AN APOSTATE.

Continue deceiving yourself!

motayoayinde:
THE MAN HAS A POOR KNOWLEDGE OF ISLAM AND WON'T STOP CLAIMING OTHERWISE.

The funny thing about this your religion is that Iraq and Iran are both Muslim countries yet they're perpetual enemies killing one another for ages. Yet this your god failed to work out the SALAM you guys always greet yourselves and you're here saying someone has a poor knowledge of that same religion practiced by both Iraqis and Iranians!
If you ask me i will tell you that apart from Jehovah's Witnesses all those claiming Christians are FAKE so that you can know the group practicing Christianity in the real sense.
But i know you guys will like to mix everything together arguing that anyone claiming Christian is a Christian. Now that i said i was formerly a Muslim there's nothing you can point out that's unique that i don't know or just a group practicing this Islam in a way that's strange to me.
Please why do you love deceiving themselves like this upon a religion imported from another country?
I won't kill myself for such a religion that's not explainable just simply because my parents practiced it.
The truth is all about what is unique that's not common!

https://l.kphx.net/s?d=3060362644026470244

cornelboy:
We have the sunni, Shia, ahmaddiyya and bauallah....

JW a christian sect is the only true sect in Christianity.

motayoayinde:
THE MAN HAS A POOR KNOWLEDGE OF ISLAM AND WON'T STOP CLAIMING OTHERWISE.

True.

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing about this your religion is that Iraq and Iran are both Muslim countries yet they're perpetual enemies killing one another for ages. Yet this your god failed to work out the SALAM you guys always greet yourselves and you're here saying someone has a poor knowledge of that same religion practiced by both Iraqis and Iranians!
If you ask me i will tell you that apart from Jehovah's Witnesses all those claiming Christians are FAKE so that you can know the group practicing Christianity in the real sense.
But i know you guys will like to mix everything together arguing that anyone claiming Christian is a Christian. Now that i said i was formerly a Muslim there's nothing you can point out that's unique that i don't know or just a group practicing this Islam in a way that's strange to me.
Please why do you love deceiving themselves like this upon a religion imported from another country?
I won't kill myself for such a religion that's not explainable just simply because my parents practiced it.
The truth is all about what is unique that's not common!

https://l.kphx.net/s?d=3060362644026470244

If you ask me i will tell you that apart from Jehovah's Witnesses all those claiming Christians are FAKE...JW Maximus.

No other Christian can say this about his/her sect.

But jokes apart.
So nobody could answer the simple question op asked.

For all those saying xyz means imannuel ..and so he fulfilled the sentences of God with us...lol

People are just gullible...

Inference 1.
Immanuel is a name and not a sentence..
Inference 2
Meaning is god with us

So when a statement is made.. "you shall be called immanuel", it is that Noun and not the meaning or whatever it represents.

Inference 3
God with us
Inference 4
Immanuel

When a statement is made .. you shall be called "god with us", it is a clause that can justify whatever biblical Jesus represents even if he was called immanuel afterwards.

So the near perfect prophecy to align with whatever new testament represents was inference 3, which wasn't the case

mhmsadyq:
JW a christian sect is the only true sect in Christianity.

YES!
So if you want to know what Christians should be doing just observe the JWs.
Now can you present any group that's practicing Islam in the real sense?
I won't argue with you over it just present so we can know how true Muslims should conduct themselves in the society!

mhmsadyq:
If you ask me i will tell you that apart from Jehovah's Witnesses all those claiming Christians are FAKE...JW Maximus.
No other Christian can say this about his/her sect.

Because they're in the darkness!
Whoever is in the light knows the colour of his dress but as for those in the dark they believe everyone is wearing the same colour!

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing about this your religion is that Iraq and Iran are both Muslim countries yet they're perpetual enemies killing one another for ages. Yet this your god failed to work out the SALAM you guys always greet yourselves and you're here saying someone has a poor knowledge of that same religion practiced by both Iraqis and Iranians!
If you ask me i will tell you that apart from Jehovah's Witnesses all those claiming Christians are FAKE so that you can know the group practicing Christianity in the real sense.
But i know you guys will like to mix everything together arguing that anyone claiming Christian is a Christian. Now that i said i was formerly a Muslim there's nothing you can point out that's unique that i don't know or just a group practicing this Islam in a way that's strange to me.
Please why do you love deceiving themselves like this upon a religion imported from another country?
I won't kill myself for such a religion that's not explainable just simply because my parents practiced it.
The truth is all about what is unique that's not common!

https://l.kphx.net/s?d=3060362644026470244

"IRAQ AND IRAN ARE PERPETUAL ENEMIES"

THIS IS THE TYPE OF SHAMEFUL IGNORANCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THE IRAN/IRAQ WAR ENDED MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO.
THE TWO COUNTRIES TODAY ARE ALLIES AS THEY ARE BOTH SHIA MAJORITY COUNTRIES HEADED BY SHIAS SINCE THE FALL OF SADDAM.

OGA, YOU CAN'T GIVE WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

motayoayinde:
"IRAQ AND IRAN ARE PERPETUAL ENEMIES"

THIS IS THE TYPE OF SHAMEFUL IGNORANCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THE IRAN/IRAQ WAR ENDED MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO.
THE TWO COUNTRIES TODAY ARE ALLIES AS THEY ARE BOTH SHIA MAJORITY COUNTRIES HEADED BY SHIAS SINCE THE FALL OF SADDAM.

OGA, YOU CAN'T GIVE WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

What exactly led to their killing one another if Allah is capable of creating PEACE (SALAM) among it's worshipers?
Guy the fight is still ongoing if you don't know, Iraqis and Iranians don't travel to one another's country. So it's their leaders that are against the Western Union apart from that a common Iraqi remains a perpetual enemy of an Iranian.
Tell anyone that a former agent of the intelligence told you that!

MaxInDHouse:
What exactly led to their killing one another if Allah is capable of creating PEACE (SALAM) among it's worshipers?
Guy the fight is still ongoing if you don't know, Iraqis and Iranians don't travel to one another's country. So it's their leaders that are against the Western Union apart from that a common Iraqi remains a perpetual enemy of an Iranian.
Tell anyone that a former agent of the intelligence told you that!

SOUNDS MORE LIKE AN AGENT OF IGNORANCE REALLY.

motayoayinde:
SOUNDS MORE LIKE AN AGENT OF IGNORANCE REALLY.

Muhammad brought your Islam over 1400 years ago and these two countries has been into the system long enough for your Allah to prevent Muslims from killing Muslims.
As for settling their disputes it's not about Iraqis settling with Iranians rather it's all about my enemy's enemy is automatically my friend.
Both leaders in those two countries agreed to form allies against the west not that the rift between them is over yet.
Ever since Babylon (Iraq) was brought down by Persia (Iran) the two nations has been nursing the enmity till today and there's no Allah that can resolve that.

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
So if you want to know what Christians should be doing just observe the JWs.
Now can you present any group that's practicing Islam in the real sense?
I won't argue with you over it just present so we can know how true Muslims should conduct themselves in the society!

Its clear you are about your sect.
Well i don't believe there is any true Christian sect, including JW.

I am proudly a Muslim like millions of other Muslims and a true Muslim like Millions of other true Muslims.

mhmsadyq:
Its clear you are about your sect.
Well i don't believe there is any true Christian sect, including JW.
I am proudly a Muslim like millions of other Muslims and a true Muslim like Millions of other true Muslims.

So there's no criteria for identification of a true Muslim. Please what makes you think i wasn't a Muslim then?

mhmsadyq:
Please stop this barefaced lie.
Nothing has ever suggests you know any jack about Islam.

You don't know anything to distinguish between true and fake Muslims yet you typed the above. Do you now see that you don't know what your religion teaches?
Of course anyone who claims to be Muslim is a Muslim so stop deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse:
So there's no criteria for identification of a true Muslim. Please what makes you think i wasn't a Muslim then?



You don't know anything to distinguish between true and fake Muslims yet you typed the above. Do you now see that you don't know what your religion teaches?
Of course anyone who claims to be Muslim is a Muslim so stop deceiving yourself!

Your knowledge of Islam does not suggest you were ever a Muslim.

In summary the critaria:

[61:10] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"یٰۤاَیُّہَا الَّذِیۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا ہَلۡ اَدُلُّکُمۡ عَلٰی تِجَارَۃٍ تُنۡجِیۡکُمۡ مِّنۡ عَذَابٍ اَلِیۡمٍ ﴿۱۰﴾

O believers! Shall I advise you a trade which will save you from a painful torment?
[61:11] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"تُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ بِاللّٰہِ وَ رَسُوۡلِہٖ وَ تُجَاہِدُوۡنَ فِیۡ سَبِیۡلِ اللّٰہِ بِاَمۡوَالِکُمۡ وَ اَنۡفُسِکُمۡ ؕ ذٰلِکُمۡ خَیۡرٌ لَّکُمۡ اِنۡ کُنۡتُمۡ تَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ﴿ۙ۱۱﴾

(It is that) you have (perfect) belief in Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) and strive hard for the cause of Allah with your human and material resources. That is better for you if you know.


Was there a concensus among the sect of Christianity that JW is the only true sect?

mhmsadyq:
Your knowledge of Islam does not suggest you were ever a Muslim.

In summary the critaria:
[61:10] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"یٰۤاَیُّہَا الَّذِیۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا ہَلۡ اَدُلُّکُمۡ عَلٰی تِجَارَۃٍ تُنۡجِیۡکُمۡ مِّنۡ عَذَابٍ اَلِیۡمٍ ﴿۱۰﴾
O believers! Shall I advise you a trade which will save you from a painful torment?
[61:11] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"تُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ بِاللّٰہِ وَ رَسُوۡلِہٖ وَ تُجَاہِدُوۡنَ فِیۡ سَبِیۡلِ اللّٰہِ بِاَمۡوَالِکُمۡ وَ اَنۡفُسِکُمۡ ؕ ذٰلِکُمۡ خَیۡرٌ لَّکُمۡ اِنۡ کُنۡتُمۡ تَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ﴿ۙ۱۱﴾
(It is that) you have (perfect) belief in Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) and strive hard for the cause of Allah with your human and material resources. That is better for you if you know.

Killer groups claiming Muslims also hold onto the above so your religion approves killing your neighbour indiscriminately, shey?

mhmsadyq:
Was there a concensus among the sect of Christianity that JW is the only true sect?

Is there a concesus among all sects claiming Muslims yet Boko Haram is killing your fellow Muslims who aren't joining their killer group!

Bàbá use your senses.
There is nothing like a concesus when you fail to achieve peace because the major reason for a concesus is peaceful coexistence not some worthless ideology that's of no practical benefits.
You and i agreed that God exists yet i don't believe in killing those who disbelieve my God but your religion taught you to kill others.
What humaneness is in that?

MaxInDHouse:
Killer groups claiming Muslims also hold onto the above so your religion approves killing your neighbour indiscriminately, shey?

I have given the criteria of good Muslims according to Allah.
Killer groups claiming Islam should speak for themselves.
Moreso, we have had this discussion before. You posited that the killings were political than religious. So...

MaxInDHouse:
Is there a concesus among all sects claiming Muslims yet Boko Haram is killing your fellow Muslims who aren't joining their killer group!

Ejo lo fe ro...
Was there a concensus among the sect of Christianity that JW is the only true sect?

MaxInDHouse:
Bàbá use your senses.
There is nothing like a concesus when you fail to achieve peace because the major reason for a concesus is peaceful coexistence not some worthless ideology that's of no practical benefits.

Toh!

MaxInDHouse:
You and i agreed that God exists yet i don't believe in killing those who disbelieve my God but your religion taught you to kill others.
What humaneness is in that?

You're just been insincere to prove Islam wrong.

Have you been killed because you disbelieve in Allah?
Haven't you ever spoken to a Muslim about your sect, JW?
Were you killed?

mhmsadyq:
I have given the criteria of good Muslims according to Allah.
Killer groups claiming Islam should speak for themselves.
Moreso, we have had this discussion before. You posited that the killings were political than religious. So...

Ejo lo fe ro...
Was there a concensus among the sect of Christianity that JW is the only true sect?

Toh!


You're just been insincere to prove Islam wrong.

Have you been killed because you disbelieve in Allah?
Haven't you ever spoken to a Muslim about your sect, JW?
Were you killed?

Once you're not able to speak about practical benefits of your religion other than what the Arabs taught you then you can't disprove the killer groups as none Muslims because that's what they claim and you don't have anything in your tenets to prove them wrong!

MaxInDHouse:
Once you're not able to speak about practical benefits of your religion other than what the Arabs taught you then you can't disprove the killer groups as none Muslims because that's what they claim and you don't have anything in your tenets to prove them wrong!

But it's not like your own group is any better..

Your own group was founded by, and is been led by Freemasons.

So what makes yours better when the foundation of your religion/group is shaky?

And before you start screaming blue murder, there is now pure proof that your religion is led by confirmed Freemasons..

Check this thread and debunk if you can ==> https://www.nairaland.com/7000070/jehovahs-witnesses-tied-freemasons

MaxInDHouse:
Once you're not able to speak about practical benefits of your religion other than what the Arabs taught you then you can't disprove the killer groups as none Muslims because that's what they claim and you don't have anything in your tenets to prove them wrong!

Reminder:

MaxInDHouse:
He's just arrogant that's all!

You don't have to start cursing people simply because they don't share your sentiment.
You can imagine how many times he has been cursing me for not agreeing with him that Islam is a bad religion. I was a Muslim and i know that i wasn't a monster even while i was practicing Islam but one thing i noticed is that when politicians comes around most of our brothers are easily manipulated to do things that their conscience won't permit them if not for the motivational speeches from the Politicians. So i came to the conclusion that it's not the people that's bad or any religion for that matter but POLITICS in itself because it's when Politics is involved that people do the worstest things you can ever imagine.


Before the colonial era the Hausas are the most accommodating tribe in Nigeria, they can share anything with you once you're able to speak their language but when the politicians came to the scene they created a big barrier dividing people using racism and politics!

I haven't called any Muslim otherwise. At worse i can say "a bad Muslim"


You're just been insincere to prove Islam wrong.

Have you been killed because you disbelieve in Allah?
Haven't you ever spoken to a Muslim about your sect, JW?
Were you killed?

oteneaaron:
But it's not like your own group is any better..
Your own group was founded by, and is been led by Freemasons.
So what makes yours better when the foundation of your religion/group is shaky?
And before you start screaming blue murder, there is now pure proof that your religion is led by confirmed Freemasons..
Check this thread and debunk if you can ==> https://www.nairaland.com/7000070/jehovahs-witnesses-tied-freemasons

According to our tenet no JW must raise a weapon against anyone in support of war.
If all Russians are like that then only Vladimir Putin will go and fight Ukrainians!

mhmsadyq:
Reminder:
I haven't called any Muslim otherwise. At worse i can say "a bad Muslim"
You're just been insincere to prove Islam wrong.
Have you been killed because you disbelieve in Allah?
Haven't you ever spoken to a Muslim about your sect, JW?
Were you killed?

I have met many Muslims who confessed that according to Muhammad people preaching any other religion apart from Islam should be beheaded but due to the law they can't do that. That's why you people hide under politics to perpetrate your evil!
No JW will support politics or racism because we believe mankind is one family!

MaxInDHouse:
[b]I have met many Muslims who confessed that according to Muhammad people preaching any other religion apart from Islam should be beheaded but due to the law they can't do that. [/b]That's why you people hide under politics to perpetrate your evil!
No JW will support politics or racism because we believe mankind is one family!

Another reason why you were never a Muslim.

Anyways,You aren't answering my questions, Oga.

mhmsadyq:
Another reason why you were never a Muslim.
Anyways,You aren't answering my questions, Oga.

Don't worry i know Muslims to you are people who stick to your religion no matter how stupid it is.
No wahala!

MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry i know Muslims to you are people who stick to your religion no matter how stupid it is.
No wahala!

You've lost it.
Is this how your sect, JW talk peace?

Ok.

mhmsadyq:
You've lost it.
Is this how your sect, JW talk peace?
Ok.

Peace comes when you condemn and disown killers not when you claim they're bad worshipers of your god!