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anonymous1759:
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It’s cool when your Rambo nation invade weaker nations All in the name of peace . But when others do it’s a threat to democracy. Rubbish.

are you not enjoying the peace?

how many years has Nigeria been fighting insurgency? it going over a decade now and still there's no end to it.

It took the supposedly bad guy Rambo less than that to end both Al Qaeda and ISIS operations worldwide but like it is with you lots instead of being grateful, it is to hate that you choose which begs the question, were you looking forward to joining those insurgents and the US and her allies spoilt your plans??

Minjim:
Conquering whole of Europe

So does Putin want to conquer the whole of Europe?

miketyler:
So the outright bullying of a sovereign nation is okay by you? Most times I wonder if you guys read the news at all or just argue based on what you must have read from other guys here who’s conscience must have been clouded; did you listen to what Putin said yesterday on the news? He said it was a mistake to allow the former Soviet states break away from the union. But Russia wasn’t treating them well and they went to a more sane nato who could treat them right and protect them now Putin said he wants all of the Soviet previous states back. it’s not just Ukraine but Estonia, Lithuania etc is that not madness? Can’t a sovereign state decides where it wonna be in? I just dey laugh Putin with him many war propaganda once e set the world who see the overhyped non-existence weapons the Russia have and how they have been lying to the world since. Make we just dey watch; Usa is only looking for a valid reason to start the war Putin should keep playing into their hands.

If you think that those hypersonic missiles Putin claims to have ain’t propaganda you could visit Quora and here from Russian citizens themselves . It’s not by having plenty warhead which isn’t confirmed to be true how many of them are functional? Is it with their dilapidated equipment make the war start make them expose Russia small. The only threat to the USA is China and they know about this

You are also biased toward America, fact is, they ain't as sophisticated as they portray to d world. They literally ran out of Afghanistan dashing hundreds of thousands of M16s, machine guns & thousands of APCs and Humvees to the Taliban...Thier enemies just use the usual AK47 & IEDs lol

DrGoodman:
I think US, and UK are being biased. Why can't they impose stiffer sanctions on the criminal government at Aso Rock for killing innocent Biafrans and tagging the killings ESN or ugm killings?

You think the whites are happy with blacks

They wish they are the ones in Africa since we don't know how to make use of our resources, they know we have it underground as it is today they wish we can just fight and kill ourselves all.... Who cares...

nedekid:
"To my knowledge there isn't really any precedent since 1945 for a great power annexing another country to both gain land and intimidate another superpower...
Right now there's a spectrum for what what could happen.."

Who annex who?
Certainly not Russia.
Russia recognized the 2 breakaway parts as independent countries. Just as the US, nato recognized Kosovo as an independent country and moved in to start the bombing of the Serbs to the protesting Russia. The US and Nato thus opened the Pandora box by playing "ojoro".
Now the 2 independent states recognized by russia has a right under international law to invite their ally to protect them.
Ukraine really made a big mistake electing a comedian as president. Instead of rejecting nato and making peace with Russia he decided to be used by the westerners. Now he has lost territory.
The Ukraine industry, from aviation, high tech, minerals, pipelines all had Russia as its market, heck the gas transit pipeline generates over $3b for the for Ukraine yearly, why then be a foe to who feeds you just to kiss ass of a country thousands of miles away.
Does not make sense.
Well the president na comedian, just as our own be heardsman.

The irony about this issue is that, the Americans don't even give a shyt about Ukraine, when Russia comes knocking America would quote a useless law that doesn't allow them to intervene directly

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Putin always stated haha..
No one is disputing the fact that the have dangerous weapons aiit..
Russian propaganda emphasizes the size and power of Russian military to people like you...

But experts understand that while Russia spends and unusually large amount of their GDP as compared to US , their GDP is a small fraction of US and smaller than the major EU countries (Germany, France and UK. These experts agree that Russia’s military is certainly #2 in the world, but in a conflict with any Western country most of who are members of NATO, they would be up again forces far larger than they could ever muster, so these conflicts are unlikely to occur..

Against any other country in their home region they are greatly superior..

You clearly don't understand what nuclear weapons are. The ones used in Japan have little yield compared to the nuclear weapons in the world today. Only 2000 nuclear missiles with turn the entire Earth to dust and ashes. Both Russia and the US have more than that.

Trentee4eva:
You clearly don't understand what nuclear weapons are. The ones used in Japan have little yield compared to the nuclear weapons in the world today. Only 2000 nuclear missiles with turn the entire Earth to dust and ashes. Both Russia and the US have more than that.

Did you not read where I said ain't disputing their power and capability.. but Put*n won't dare make a mistake if waging war against NATO...
If he does then sorry is his case..

GreyLaw:
No need arguing this mate. More sanctions are waiting; weightier ones for that matter. Sanctions don't finish. And there is no new world order. If ever there was something like that it will be China. Russia is a poor country. Till date Russia cannot even match Portugal's GDP per capita and they have been trying for ages. Apart from Moscow and St. Petersburg most other Russian cities are messed up.

New world order? Lol... China would be laughing at your statement. Even China no want war. Many people for the sake of hatred or pure boredom want a change of the guard, but no, the US is centuries ahead of every other country when it comes to military abilities and intelligence. For me: US, UK, Israel, then others

Even China cannot afford a full blown confrontation with India. India is in space, medicine, nuclear warfare, everything and they don't make noise. Let Putin go and sit down. This one he will lose it a million times over. The West actually want him to make a move so they will cordon him off and he knows hence the merry go round.

Which Portugal are you talking about? They are still owning Germany since 2015. Don't compare Russia to Portugal please.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
This might have an effect on Russia to be sincere..
To my knowledge there isn't really any precedent since 1945 for a great power annexing another country to both gain land and intimidate another superpower...
Right now there's a spectrum for what what could happen..

On the one end Russia could invade and something could go horrifically wrong and we end up in a Europe wide NATO - Russia war. That would be disastrous to say the least.

In the middle of the spectrum is full sanctions and Russia becomes and economic pariah state. This however looks unlikely as only Britain and the US seem to see eye to eye in arguing for this outcome..
France and Germany seem a little bit less enthusiastic about this approach..
Let's see how it goes..

Let's pray this will not happen, because it will definitely set a timeline for the end. Concerning France , Germany and others, the US knows how to armstring recalcitrant NATO members to fall into line. But let's just pray every manoeuvre would lead to a warless and peaceful end.

neuf:
are you not enjoying the peace?

how many years has Nigeria been fighting insurgency? it going over a decade now and still there's no end to it.

It took the supposedly bad guy Rambo less than that to end both Al Qaeda and ISIS operations worldwide but like it is with you lots instead of being grateful, it is to hate that you choose which begs the question, were you looking forward to joining those insurgents and the US and her allies spoilt your plans??

Western Media is bad gan . If not Russia For Venezuela and Syria will be like Afghanistan and Libya . Your so called Rambo that take sides with terrorist . They Can dictate between good and bad terrorist yeye Dey smell .

BJanta:
Let's pray this will not happen, because it will definitely set a timeline for the end. Concerning France , Germany and others, the US knows how to armstring recalcitrant NATO members to fall into line. But let's just pray every manoeuvre would lead to a warless and peaceful end.

Exactly..ww3 comes to mind..

BloomingDale:
Are you an American or European? I can’t believe there are non citizens still supporting America and EU.

So tell me why i should support Russia?

DrGoodman:
I think US, and UK are being biased. Why can't they impose stiffer sanctions on the criminal government at Aso Rock for killing innocent Biafrans and tagging the killings ESN or ugm killings?

Rubbish.

Jackanda1:
If Russia wasn't such a bully would her neighbors seek to join NATO?

When you harass and trample on your brother, would you be shocked when he decides to join forces with an outsider?

Really it's beyond the surface. Their wahala is like the case of chicken and egg, and it is tiring. To really understand this you need to go back to the days before the cold War, to the cold War itself, to the disintegration of the USSR and the roles of various players, and then the current manoeuvres.

brainycaleb:
Some of you guys are mistaking Russia for Nigeria. I mean not even your Great America can handle Russia when it comes to war and I'm telling the truth. If you have been following the news, American spendings on weapons of mass destruction have not been yeilding much results but you see Russia that is a story for another day...

The only country I believe that can handle Russia will be China so if America would want to handle Russia, they will need the help of the Chinese and everybody else around the world. That is how bad the situation gets, don't let Hollywood tell you otherwise.

have you been to Russia/ USA arsenal before? You can’t just make conclusion based on what the media put out there.,

As far back as early 90s when technology was still crawling , America had atomic bomb , now imagine what she has now .. this is common sense ..

Elsueno:
You are also biased toward America, fact is, they ain't as sophisticated as they portray to d world. They literally ran out of Afghanistan dashing hundreds of thousands of M16s, machine guns & thousands of APCs and Humvees to the Taliban...Thier enemies just use the usual AK47 & IEDs lol

were the American soldiers fighting confrontational war with talibans? You people will just open mouth waaa to attack the US. Talibans are mixed with the Afghans so it’s not as easy as it seems to fight unidentified enemies..

kponkedenge:
Did you listen to Putin's speech? Putin wants to do more than just securing it's border.

He complained heavily about how the old Soviet States were allowed to be independent, he blamed Bolsheviks for separating Russia from Ukraine. He's trying to recreate the old Soviet Union.

Unfortunately, most of those countries don't want to be under him anymore. Countries like Latvia and Estonia have joined NATO for protection from Putin.

Putin really shouldn't be doing all these cos he already has power and is fearerd by all these smaller nations, but the guy is just being greedy.

Their case is not so ordinary. The fate of most European superpowers is in the hands of Russia and they have been struggling to weaken it and take control of it as in the middle Eastern countries. You need to go back to the days before the cold War, the cold War, the disintegration of USSR and the roles of all parties. Not only the role of USSR.

The West quickly recognised the separatists to weaken Russia. And now Russia is also quickly recognising the new separatists to empower itself.

Their case is like that of the chicken and egg and to assume one side is not at fault is to turn the truth on its head.

Don't forget that all our news and analyses about the crises come from western media. How often do we hear the sidebof Russia in so much detail. There is always two sides to every story.

FuckSilly:
You people just think with your anus...
Do you think Russia is like Nigeria or Ghana?
Who needs USA and Europe when China is there?

and you think China is a reliable ally?

DrGoodman:
I think US, and UK are being biased. Why can't they impose stiffer sanctions on the criminal government at Aso Rock for killing innocent Biafrans and tagging the killings ESN or ugm killings?

You are so dull to the extent that you can't comprehend what the write up is all about.

Ignorance at it's peak!

anonymous1759:
Western Media is bad gan . If not Russia For Venezuela and Syria will be like Afghanistan and Libya . Your so called Rambo that take sides with terrorist . They Can dictate between good and bad terrorist yeye Dey smell .

so what was Russia looking for in Afghanistan that they got their ass handed to them? Guess you didn't know that. Why is the Taliban proscribed in Russia?

America were in Syria to fight the ISIS and they won, dismantling the Islamic state. Russia are in Syria to keep Assad in government even when the people don't want that. The main people fighting to get Assad off are Turkey.

Go read and stop displaying your ignorance on a public forum

MoIbrahim:
Really it's beyond the surface. Their wahala is like the case of chicken and egg, and it is tiring. To really understand this you need to go back to the days before the cold War, to the cold War itself, to the disintegration of the USSR and the roles of various players, and then the current manoeuvres.

which Chicken and egg?

Days before the cold War was WW2. while the western allies were liberating former States, the USSR was annexing former German conquered territory to join the Soviet Union.
If you have ever had an extensive interaction with an Eastern European, they share one common trait with Asian, their sense of pride in their state. Like the Polish are proud to be Polish and so on and so forth.
When the USSR started annexing these countries, there was only going to be one outcome in the end, the disintegration of such Union and that's what happened.
the Cold in a nutshell was just democracy against communism.

Someone is wrong here and is trying so hard to look like the good guy so no it's not chicken and egg analogy

seanwilliam:
were the American soldiers fighting confrontational war with talibans? You people will just open mouth waaa to attack the US. Talibans are mixed with the Afghans so it’s not as easy as it seems to fight unidentified enemies..

Bros, war is war, nothing like mixed....Iswap / boko Haram was inflicting serious damage on Nigeria....but our military adapted & now constantly eliminating these nuances.... U.S despite being the so called "greatest military" in the world ran away from Afghanistan, all thier drones, stealth planes, sophisticated C.I.A couldn't figure out d Talibans for years.....U might have d weapons, but they are useless if u don't have dedicated & loyal manpower to use them

The US and UK most esp should just accept RUSSIA as a world power

Putin isn't shitting around on this one. He claimed he withdrew troops, then Ukraine separatist group invade eastern Ukraine and claim independence, RUSSIA recognises them and recalls his troops back into the new independence just in same Ukraine backyards.


War is smart thinking, it's not all about kaboom kaboom! , you have to give it to putin and his defence minister on this one.

RUSSIA 1: West 0

FuckSilly:
I find some of you so foolish and sentimental to even engage with.
USA can invade Iraq, Syria, Afghanista, Cuba, Venezuela etc but Russia can not invade Ukraine?

Ass lickers

The US abides by rules of engagement. If they wanted to go all out WAR with Syria etc they will reduce them to 'baby' powder - and you know it.

neuf:
so what was Russia looking for in Afghanistan that they got their ass handed to them? Guess you didn't know that. Why is the Taliban proscribed in Russia?

America were in Syria to fight the ISIS and they won, dismantling the Islamic state. Russia are in Syria to keep Assad in government even when the people don't want that. The main people fighting to get Assad off are Turkey.

Go read and stop displaying your ignorance on a public forum

You’re a lost cause to western Media. Anyone that America And her allies don’t like automatically the whole country don’t like them . You’re choked with western Media.
After the fall of Sadam and Ghadaffi the world has been in chaos .

Use your head to analyze things yourself.
Syria was a lost cause to terrorist before Russia stepped in. Venezuela would’ve suffer the same fate if not for Russia.

Don’t come here to say thrash that , Syrians don’t want Assad . The west will sponsor protest and Feed you with Rubbish. Libya should be a case study for of you all the brainwashed mofos.

When Trump Won there was protests in America , same thing with BIDEN Will you now say the American People don’t want BIDEN?

These are the scenarios you see in countries after elections but the west will twist it to make you believe the whole country is one sided.
If Afghanistan can fall In less than 2 months after 20 years of rule . It simply points to one direction that majority of Afghans like their Islamic way of life .
Same thing applies to democracy majority carries the vote. but you’ll be fed with lies that
The Afghans are not diplomatic.

FuckSilly:
You people just think with your anus...
Do you think Russia is like Nigeria or Ghana?
Who needs USA and Europe when China is there?

And you think through your dick . You think China will risk its economy for Russia ?

MoIbrahim:
Their case is not so ordinary. The fate of most European superpowers is in the hands of Russia and they have been struggling to weaken it and take control of it as in the middle Eastern countries. You need to go back to the days before the cold War, the cold War, the disintegration of USSR and the roles of all parties. Not only the role of USSR.

The West quickly recognised the separatists to weaken Russia. And now Russia is also quickly recognising the new separatists to empower itself.

Their case is like that of the chicken and egg and to assume one side is not at fault is to turn the truth on its head.

Don't forget that all our news and analyses about the crises come from western media. How often do we hear the sidebof Russia in so much detail. There is always two sides to every story.

I get you, but try and read about how Ukraine came into existence, Russia willingly gave them up to be an independent state. Read about the creation of Ukraine.

Same thing happened to the dissolution of the USSR. Russia allowed it to happen, when smaller tribes in the USSR were not comfortable with the one party system, which constituted of only the Communist party. Also smaller tribes complained of nepotism and corruption. In fact the problems were just too much.

Take time and go through this article.... It took time to highlight the root cause and how the collapse occurred.

https://www.clearias.com/disintegration-of-the-ussr/

Trentee4eva:
You should pray it doesn't become a nuclear war because the UK, where you reside will be obliterated. UK will be dust and ashes with a single strike of the Russian sarmat nuclear missile (Satan-2 is the NATO codename). In a nuclear war between Russia and NATO, China will become the undisputed economic and military superpower if they don't get involved.

Russia will be turned into ashes as well, the UK has enough Nuclear weapons to turn Russia into planet Mars. And you think Nigeria will be spared from a Nuclear war ?

Africa will suffer nuclear rain, destruction of the atmosphere, exponential increase in cancers, total fail of agriculture etc.

Putin is not stupid - he knows that attacking NATO means the end of at least 2/3rds of humanity including 100% of Russia.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
but Put*n won't dare make a mistake if waging war against NATO...
If he does then sorry is his case..

That is true both ways so nothing said.
Putin's issues with the West are

1. Get out of Ukraine
2. roll back NATO from our bothers

To a neutral observer who is old enough to remember the Cold War and who studied the history of the World Wars

Those are not unreasonable demands

To be clear Russia's position on those two things is if it will lead to nuclear war so be it

The West now have to decide how important it is for NATO to be in Latvia, Lithuania and other neighbours of Russia
This is not very different from the Cuban Missile crisis. America was prepared to go to war about that

aribisala0:
That is true both ways so nothing said.
Putin's issues with the West are

1. Get out of Ukraine
2. roll back NATO from our bothers

To a neutral observer who is old enough to remember the Cold War and who studied the history of the World Wars

Those are not unreasonable demands

To be clear Russia's position on those two things is if it will lead to nuclear war so be it

The West now have to decide how important it is for NATO to be in Latvia, Lithuania and other neighbours of Russia
This is not very different from the Cuban Missile crisis. America was prepared to go to war about that

Great point...p*tin must have some bad @**ss plans tho.. which I hope won't eat him up..

IhateYouMan:
The US abides by rules of engagement..

You know this how?CNN or the BBC or you have actually been on a battlefield?

Just Google USA War crimes
We in Nigeria need to learn to be neutral

There is no difference between the West or Russia

They act in their own interest
Do not allow your mind to be colonized

Let us leave story.

All that yarn about sovereign nation is bullcrap

Will the USA permt Russian military bases or airports in Mexico?