MERCHANDISER:


This issue is beyond your Comprehensive.
This war is simply Russia vs USA not Ukraine

Still doesn't give Russia any power to invade Ukraine..

Keegan:


Go and sit down Mr Man!

You should ..next time don't engage in a conversation you know nothing about..
Do you even take time to study some certain things?

Help yourself out..

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Slide off if you can't prove me wrong..
Is the Fulani in your country a sovereign state?
Why compare an independent country with a tribe huh?
Nonsense...

Like I said if you were bright you'd understand a metaphor. And I even made the effort to post a screenshot of the meaning of a metaphor but here you are. I guess FERNANDEZISNOTBACK

FERNANDEZISBACK:

You should ..next time don't engage in a conversation you know nothing about..
Do you even take time to study some certain things?

Help yourself out..

So you meant I didn't read all the garbage you have been typing all night long? For your information this is a public forum and there's nothing like "don't engage in a conversation you know nothing about". If you don't want interventions just keep your opinion to yourself. Period.

Keegan:


So you meant I didn't read all the garbage you have been typing all night long? For your information this is a public forum and there's nothing like "don't engage in a conversation you know nothing about". If you don't want interventions just keep your opinion to yourself. Period.

My bad I was mistaking you for the other guy..sorry about that..

Zaggadhat:



Like I said if you were bright you'd understand a metaphor. And I even made the effort to post a screenshot of the meaning of a metaphor but here you are. I guess FERNANDEZISNOTBACK

Still pointless..

princeeze1:

You that know so much, go and read what led to the Cuban missile crisis. When Cuba willingly decided to host Soviet missiles. This same hipocritical US imposed a naval blockade on Cuba and threatened nuclear war unless the missiles were removed.

Some similarities, but lots of differences that are obvious but you are ignoring.

The US did not roll armored tanks into Cuba and start raining hellfire missiles on poor Cubans killing thousands and annexing part of Cuban land to America.

The US simply implemented a Naval blockade cutting off the Russians and they were very effective, Russia tucked it’s tail behind it’s back and ran.

In this case, because Russia is suffering from inferiority complex, they want to run over poor Ukraine simply because Ukraine rejected them and instead want to be friends with NATO.

If Russia is that powerful, they should have implemented a Navel blockade and take it directly to NATO since that is where their gross is, and the poor country of Ukraine out of it.

FERNANDEZISBACK:


You want to compare that with unwarranted invasion.. Ukraine willingly wants to join..so you see the difference now boy?

This here is your blatant hipocracy. Ukrainian willingly, did Cuba grudgingly decide to host Soviet missiles? Fidel Castros a communist president agreed to host those missiles. If the Americans see soviet missiles in Cuba as a National threat, tell me why the Russians should not see NATO opening another front on its border a threat. You are simply asking the Russians to compromise their National security to accommodate Ukrainian ambitions. Why didn’t the US accommodate Cuban ambitions? National security is non negotiable, if Putin fails to fight, he has compromised National security and thus also unfit to be president of the Russian federation. Lastly when making comments on a public forum, be courteous, it’s a public discussion not a fight, I am not a boy. I am a family man.

linearity:


Some similarities, but lots of differences that are obvious but you are ignoring.

The US did not roll armored tanks into Cuba and start raining hellfire missiles on poor Cubans killing thousands and annexing part of Cuban land to America.

The US simply implemented a Naval blockade cutting off the Russians and they were very effective, Russia tucked it’s tail behind it’s back and ran.

In this case, because Russia is suffering from inferiority complex, they want to run over poor Ukraine simply because Ukraine rejected them and instead want to be friends with NATO.

If Russia is that powerful, they should have implemented a Navel blockade and take it directly to NATO since that is where their gross is, and the poor country of Ukraine out of it.

Lol, your last statement, why did the US encircle Cuba and not also take the fight to the Soviets lol? Tell me the difference between rolling in tanks and using your navy to surround a sovereign nation and threaten a nuclear war on them if those missiles were not removed? That case was even worse, for the second time, the world was on the brink of another nuclear war simply because the US does not want Soviet missiles in their backyard. Go back and read about the events again, the naval blockade was implemented not just to cut off the Soviets, but to enforce a count down for the missiles to be removed else they would invade Cuba and use nuclear missiles if need be. Such was the resolve of Kennedy’s government.

princeeze1:

This here is your blatant hipocracy. Ukrainian willingly, did Cuba grudgingly decide to host Soviet missiles? Fidel Castros a communist president agreed to host those missiles. If the Americans see soviet missiles in Cuba as a National threat, tell me why the Russians should not see NATO opening another front on its border a threat. You are simply asking the Russians to compromise their National security to accommodate Ukrainian ambitions. Why didn’t the US accommodate Cuban ambitions? National security is non negotiable, if Putin fails to fight, he has compromised National security and thus also unfit to be president of the Russian federation. Lastly when making comments on a public forum, be courteous, it’s a public discussion not a fight, I am not a boy. I am a family man.

The Soviets in 1962 had a great many more medium- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles that could reach targets in Western Europe from Soviet launch sites in Eastern Europe, but none of those could reach the USA, unless placed in Cuba..they had a negative motive against USA..
Did USA plan to launch a missile in Russia presently?no...
That was a nuclear war preparation directly against USA and the threat was very clear..
The placement of the missiles in Cuba was seen as threatening by the US cos of the length of time it would take a missile launched from Cuba to the USA..

Longer range missiles require a long ballistic trajectory to hit their target...the USA would be able to detect those missiles and launch a retaliatory attack that would destroy the attacker. Short and medium ranged missiles from Cuba would have been able to annihilate USA defenses before they had time to react...that was a clear case of attack..
Do you understand now?

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Some of you folks are so thoughtless, that it beggars belief! Tufiakwa! Is Ukraine a NATO member? Nope. In fact, the probability of Ukraine ever becoming a NATO member is quite slim. Why is Russia not attacking her other neighbors (Poland, Latvia and etc.) that are NATO members? It is pure insanity that some Nigerians, who experienced Abacha's dictatorship and draconian regime would be applauding egomaniac Putin in his bid to turn Europe into a battlefield.

mike8804:
I see Ukrainians as traitors.... how can my neighbor decided to invite my enemy and still think he can still be my neighbor.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

The Soviets in 1962 had a great many more medium- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles that could reach targets in Western Europe from Soviet launch sites in Eastern Europe, but none of those could reach the USA, unless placed in Cuba..they had a negative motive against USA..
Did USA plan to launch a missile in Russia presently?no...
That was a nuclear war preparation directly against USA and the threat was very clear..
The placement of the missiles in Cuba was seen as threatening by the US cos of the length of time it would take a missile launched from Cuba to the USA..

Longer range missiles require a long ballistic trajectory to hit their target...the USA would be able to detect those missiles and launch a retaliatory attack that would destroy the attacker. Short and medium ranged missiles from Cuba would have been able to annihilate USA defenses before they had time to react...that was a clear case of attack..
Do you understand now?

I understand perfectly, still trying to tell you that this same fear the US had of the Soviets is same Russia currently has of NATO. NATO is seen by Russia as a military alliance against it in posturing. NATO missiles using Ukraine as a forward base requires less than 5mins to hit Moscow, giving air defenses little or no response time. If you are the leader of Russia, what would you do?

princeeze1:

I understand perfectly, still trying to tell you that this same fear the US had of the Soviets is same Russia currently has of NATO. NATO is seen by Russia as a military alliance against it in posturing. NATO missiles using Ukraine as a forward base requires less than 5mins to hit Moscow, giving air defenses little or no response time. If you are the leader of Russia, what would you do?

Why fear when you have a good mind?
It's the USA here not NK.. NATO is not a bully organization..
They won't attack if you don't hurt theirs..
If I was Putin I would let Ukraine be..they are in their own now and what's the big deal with that?
If Putin doesn't have any Evil motive why so bothered and concerned about Ukraine..why the constant bully from him?
Ask yourself this questions..

mumumugu:
This is not Ukraine vs Russia. This is Ukraine vs Ukraine sessionist which Russia support.


It is like Nigeria vs Biafra but England supporting Biafra.

Let us not hype this into third World War Z

princeeze1:

I understand perfectly, still trying to tell you that this same fear the US had of the Soviets is same Russia currently has of NATO. NATO is seen by Russia as a military alliance against it in posturing. NATO missiles using Ukraine as a forward base requires less than 5mins to hit Moscow, giving air defenses little or no response time. If you are the leader of Russia, what would you do?

He just wants to argue...

Zelensky is a terrible president. He refused diplomacy and is now begging for a ceasefire and willingly to accept Ukrainian neutrality status. Why refuse to implement the Minsk accords, a treaty mediated and signed by four nations( Ukraine, Russia, Germany and France)? Why refuse to accept neutrality before the war? Now the very neutrality you refused is what you are begging for, but it will come at a price. He has lost a great chunk of his country because even the rebels only held one third of the donbass before the war. He will pay for war reparations as the losing side, he will be forced to accept truce on unfavorable terms or go into exile. Ukraine has ended up never going to become a nato member, infrastructures destroyed, army demilitarized, all for what? You wanted to play by the books of Biden’s CIA.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Why fear when you have a good mind?
It's the USA here not NK.. NATO is not a bully organization..
They won't attack if you don't hurt theirs..
If I was Putin I would let Ukraine be..they are in their own now and what's the big deal with that?
If Putin doesn't have any Evil motive why so bothered and concerned about Ukraine..why the constant bully from him?
Ask yourself this questions..

You just want to deviate from clear reason and same comparisons. I won’t try to argue with you anymore. Well Libyans would not agree with your assessment of nato not attacking you when you did not attack a member state. Till date, Libyans still regret falling for CIA antics. They have not recovered from the aftermath years on. Because if you interchange the scenarios, they all just same.

princeeze1:

You just want to deviate from clear reason and same comparisons. I won’t try to argue with you anymore. Well Libyans would not agree with your assessment of nato not attacking you when you did not attack a member state. Till date, Libyans still regret falling for CIA antics. They have not recovered from the aftermath years on. Because if you interchange the scenarios, they all just same.

Wow so from shifting from Cuba now to Libya.. history is fun isn't it?
I sure can tell a whole book about that if you want..

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Why fear when you have a good mind?
It's the USA here not NK.. NATO is not a bully organization..
They won't attack if you don't hurt theirs..
If I was Putin I would let Ukraine be..they are in their own now and what's the big deal with that?
If Putin doesn't have any Evil motive why so bothered and concerned about Ukraine..why the constant bully from him?
Ask yourself this questions..

Is only a fool that will trust the better judgement of his enemies. You sir are clearly not strategic in how you think. Is only an idiot that will allow his enemies place weapons and military next to his country doing nothing believing that they are good people. Sometimes eh the nonsense you guys write on this nairaland. You ask yourself questions.

jikins:


Is only a fool that will trust the better judgement of his enemies. You sir are clearly not strategic in how you think. Is only an idiot that will allow his enemies place weapons and military next to his country doing nothing believing that they are good people. Sometimes eh the nonsense you guys write on this nairaland. You ask yourself questions.

Ok

Where are those that are calling for war in Nigeria?

Rollsnjaguar:
That guy behind those ladies should be arrested and given an AK47 to defend Ukraine. Where is he running to

u don start smoking ur weed abi? U no fit help Dem shebi u get juju

Zaggadhat:


Understand issues before giving a response.

This issues is as simple as the Fulani herdsmen crisis. When the government wanted to give them land in every states. And what was people's response No way!! It's the same as Russia and Ukraine. If Russia attempts to have a forward base in Canada or Mexico the US would do worse to them!!!

Your analogy is fallacious. Nigerian state governments told the federal governments not to give Fulanis lands in their state. Ukraine does not belong to Russia. By the way, would Ukraine be the only Russia neighbour that's a NATO member? Is Russia's constant bullying not why Ukraine decided to join NATO in the first place? They should have just stayed back and endured?

Russia demands that Ukraine is not admitted into NATO, however, they gave "peace keeping mission" as the reason for the invasion. Why give phony reasons? Russia is more or less surrounded by NATO already. Virtually all Russian neighbours are NATO members. They all joined to stay protected from the over-ambitious bully. The same reason Ukraine wants to join. Why is Ukraine the only one forbidden from joining NATO? What's your solution? That Ukraine takes whatever Russia sends thier way without seeking some form of solidarity? Canada wouldn't do anything that will affect the US negatively cause the US doesn't treat them like Russia treats Ukraine. The United Nations voted massively against the US when made an even less daring move 1898. So why shouldn't we criticise Putin at this moment?

This is Putin trying to redraw the map. His Spy Chief made it clear. So he would have done this anyway. The only reason he didn't want Ukraine to join NATO is so that Ukraine would be helpless when he strikes. And that's why he moved fast before Ukraine is able to join the body. Now, NATO had no obligation to send soldiers to Ukraine. Let's call a spade a spade, Putin is a bully. The only reason people are supporting him is cause of their hatred for the US.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

You know nothing..
Who's the enemy?so Ukraine insisting to Join NATO willingly is what makes them an enemy to Russia?

Who is Putin to tell Ukraine a sovereign state what to do with their country?

your US will do more if mexico does such,US always want double standard and that's wat i hate bout them

yusuf0876:
your US will do more if mexico does such,US always want double standard and that's wat i hate bout them

Ok

Luchitec:
Some of you folks are so thoughtless, that it beggars belief! Tufiakwa! Is Ukraine a NATO member? Nope. In fact, the probability of Ukraine ever becoming a NATO member is quite slim. Why is Russia not attacking her other neighbors (Poland, Latvia and etc.) that are NATO members? It is pure insanity that some Nigerians, who experienced Abacha's dictatorship and draconian regime would be applauding egomaniac Putin in his bid to turn Europe into a battlefield.

Excellent.
You dey mind minors with keyboard?