Minemrys:

No follow this one oh. It's part of the marketing. Fant4stic used same strategy. Amazing Spiderman used same. Talking about a sequel during promotion. My point is, nothing is certain for now.

Like I’ve said before, this movie is getting a sequel irrespective of its BO returns.

Because, it’s BATMAN.

Minemrys:

No follow this one oh. It's part of the marketing. Fant4stic used same strategy. Amazing Spiderman used same. Talking about a sequel during promotion. My point is, nothing is certain for now.

Oga, you're just reaching mate.

TSS was fantastically poor box office wise but still got a sequel series. WW84 was a disaster critically and box office wise but it still got a sequel incoming. Shazam had less than $400mn in BO and still has a sequel and u think a Batman movie with that gross won't be renewed.
If you know the WB of last year you'd know BO isn't necessarily the main target these days.

This joke is getting stale.

abduleez1:


Oga, you're just reaching mate.

TSS was fantastically poor box office wise but still got a sequel series. WW84 was a disaster critically and box office wise but it still got a sequel incoming. Shazam had less than $400mn in BO and still has a sequel and u think a Batman movie with that gross won't be renewed.
If you know the WB of last year you'd know BO isn't necessarily the main target these days.

This joke is getting stale.

Am not reaching. Am just saying nothing is ever certain. Talks of a sequel prior to a film being released is part of the promotion.
Don't get too excited yet. They will never say for a block buster pop icon film about to be released that they don't have plans for sequel. It sends bad publicity. Bryan singer also said same after Superman returns. David Ayer was scheduled for other DC films during the height of SS promotion. Green lantern had a sequel announced.
I am not saying the movie will do bad, but don't believe anything the movie crew say during promotion, cause things quickly change.

Minemrys:

Am not reaching. Am just saying nothing is ever certain. Talks of a sequel prior to a film being released is part of the promotion.
Don't get too excited yet. They will never say for a block buster pop icon film about to be released that they don't have plans for sequel. It sends bad publicity. Bryan singer also said same after Superman returns. David Ayer was scheduled for other DC films during the height of SS promotion. Green lantern had a sequel announced.
I am not saying the movie will do bad, but don't believe anything the movie crew say during promotion, cause things quickly change.

Okay.

Even Scott Mendelson the MCU fan sees something big....

Zoey Kravitz at THE BATMAN Premiere

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abduleez1:
Where the people wey dey say part 2 depends on the performance of this one?
Saying $650mn is not enough for a sequel.

I said 650M might not get a sequel greenlit as that would be disappointing but since it's Batman, they just might...
Moreover, WB are confident the movie will do well, they placed review embargoes till like 4 days before movie premier Which means they like what they saw ....
Everything's going for Batman, good actors, good director, uber popular character, no competition, humongous marketing and availability of relevant markets....
It does 1.2 - 1.5 billion ...

MTV lifted their embargo too soon, here are some reviews for The Batman


#Xavier
#DCian

"Big studios make big decisions around such things as the presence of cigarettes in films. I fought valiantly for a cigar. At one stage I said, 'I can have it unlit! Just let me have it unlit.' They were like, 'No.' [As if] a bunch of 12-year-olds are going to start smoking Cuban cigars because of it. I have no idea where it goes but, pardon the pun, it's the tip of the iceberg."


Colin Farrell on WB refusal to let Penguin smoke.......

AnfieldFan:
"Big studios make big decisions around such things as the presence of cigarettes in films. I fought valiantly for a cigar. At one stage I said, 'I can have it unlit! Just let me have it unlit.' They were like, 'No.' [As if] a bunch of 12-year-olds are going to start smoking Cuban cigars because of it. I have no idea where it goes but, pardon the pun, it's the tip of the iceberg."


Colin Farrell on WB refusal to let Penguin smoke.......

WB and interference, don’t they ever learn

Nickshrapnel:
WB and interference, don’t they ever learn

Big studios cut out smoking from their movies if they are PG...
This isn't a WB thing....

AnfieldFan:


Big studios cut out smoking from their movies if they are PG...
This isn't a WB thing....

All studios are crazy then like highschoolers don’t know what smoking is?

***Draws ear*** This is just a rumour ohhhhhhh


#Xavier

Xavier5:
***Draws ear*** This is just a rumour ohhhhhhh


#Xavier

I love the new excitement Peacemaker has brought to the DCEU and the anticipation for a returning shared universe.

It has raised audience optimism for DC. Just hope WB don't FVVK IT UP.

abduleez1:


I love the new excitement Peacemaker has brought to the DCEU and the anticipation for a returning shared universe.

It has raised audience optimism for DC. Just hope WB don't FVVK IT UP.

And why will they, you guys talk as if WB is a novice when it comes to handling Franchises especially the shared universe ones. It's just like saying because Disney messed up with Star Wars: The Rise Of The Skywalker, they can't handle Star Wars or Avatar IP.

I don't see WB ruining it. They seem to know what they're doing.


#Xavier
#DCian

Xavier5:


And why will they, you guys talk as if WB is a novice when it comes to handling Franchises especially the shared universe ones. It's just like saying because Disney messed up with Star Wars: The Rise Of The Skywalker, they can't handle Star Wars or Avatar IP.

I don't see WB ruining it. They seem to know what they're doing.


#Xavier
#DCian

Wby has a history of messing things up in DC. I'm not talking about other franchises.
Same way Disney continues to mess up SW but MCU, Pixar is a success critically and financially.

Although this time they seemed more determined on their masterplan.
It's until December we fully appraise the litmus test.

Xavier5:


And why will they, you guys talk as if WB is a novice when it comes to handling Franchises especially the shared universe ones. It's just like saying because Disney messed up with Star Wars: The Rise Of The Skywalker, they can't handle Star Wars or Avatar IP.

I don't see WB ruining it. They seem to know what they're doing.


#Xavier
#DCian

People at WB bros are really crazy man

I can never trust them to do the right thing. An example of their craziness is in this picture

abduleez1:


Wby has a history of messing things up in DC. I'm not talking about other franchises.
Same way Disney continues to mess up SW but MCU, Pixar is a success critically and financially.

Although this time they seemed more determined on their masterplan.
It's until December we fully appraise the litmus test.

Which still begs the question, if they can handle other franchises why can't they handle the DCEU? These are the same people that handled the DCAMU, Timmverse, even Arrowverse and titanverse, despite the last two being controversial but the facts remains that they handled and are handling this universe successfully. So if they can successfully manage this universe, what's stop them from doing same with the DCEU? Nothing, except they don't want to.

So please we should stop all this unnecessary whining of WB this, WB that and let the studio do their thing.

Show me a studio that hasn't made a mistake, and I will show you a studio that doesn't exist. Even Disney and universal pictures has made mistakes but what matter is rectifying it and that's what WB is doing.

From all indication WB is trying to rectify the mistake they made, so I don't see why they will mess it up again. Don't forget they have their reputation to protect.

As for the issue of them messing up the DC properties, they have their good moments and also have their bad moments that's for sure but the thing is, their good moments surpassed their bad moments. So rather focusing on the bad moments that you can't change, why don't you choose to focus on the good moments which is more by the way.

Besides, I believe in WB until proven otherwise by them. Come on, this is a studio that's good at what they do, they're veterans in the field. They didn't get to be among the top 3 largest film studios in the world by messing up their franchises but instead by making it work.

I have hope in them rectifying the DCEU until proven otherwise by them.


#Xavier
#DCian

Nickshrapnel:
People at WB bros are really crazy man

I can never trust them to do the right thing. An example of their craziness is in this picture

Why don't you also show me a screenshot of them making intelligent decisions also. These people are not perfect they're humans that makes mistake but what matters is rectifying that mistake.

They've made both stupid and intelligent decisions just like studios like Disney and Universal Pictures. But one thing is sure, for every bad decisions they made, they're other multiple intelligent ones they made also.

If they're all dumb as you're trying to portray the, I wonder how they're among the top 3 largest studio globally. I never knew stupidity could pay so well.


#Xavier
#DCian

Xavier5:


Why don't you also show me a screenshot of them making intelligent decisions also. These people are not perfect they're humans that makes mistake but what matters is rectifying that mistake.

They've made both stupid and intelligent decisions just like studios like Disney and Universal Pictures. But one thing is sure, for every bad decisions they made, they're other multiple intelligent ones they made also.

If they're all dumb as you're trying to portray the, I wonder how they're among the top 3 largest studio globally. I never knew stupidity could pay so well.


#Xavier
#DCian

Look man, I didn’t say they were dumb, I said I will never trust them to do the right thing. If they eventually do, I’d give them a thumb up, like always do. But if they disappoint, I’d say that was expected

All in all, I share Abduleez’s sentiment about them not ruining the universe.

Nickshrapnel:
Look man, I didn’t say they were dumb, I said I will never trust them to do the right thing. If they eventually do, I’d give them a thumb up, like always do. But if they disappoint, I’d say that was expected

All in all, I share Abduleez’s sentiment about them not ruining the universe.

To WB and DC

Xavier5:


Which still begs the question, if they can handle other franchises why can't they handle the DCEU? These are the same people that handled the DCAMU, Timmverse, even Arrowverse and titanverse, despite the last two being controversial but the facts remains that they handled and are handling this universe successfully. So if they can successfully manage this universe, what's stop them from doing same with the DCEU? Nothing, except they don't want to.

So please we should stop all this unnecessary whining of WB this, WB that and let the studio do their thing.

Show me a studio that hasn't made a mistake, and I will show you a studio that doesn't exist. Even Disney and universal pictures has made mistakes but what matter is rectifying it and that's what WB is doing.

From all indication WB is trying to rectify the mistake they made, so I don't see why they will mess it up again. Don't forget they have their reputation to protect.

As for the issue of them messing up the DC properties, they have their good moments and also have their bad moments that's for sure but the thing is, their good moments surpassed their bad moments. So rather focusing on the bad moments that you can't change, why don't you choose to focus on the good moments which is more by the way.

Besides, I believe in WB until proven otherwise by them. Come on, this is a studio that's good at what they do, they're veterans in the field. They didn't get to be among the top 3 largest film studios in the world by messing up their franchises but instead by making it work.

I have hope in them rectifying the DCEU until proven otherwise by them.


#Xavier
#DCian

WB's DCEU problem is caused by trying to copy the MCU instead of doing their own thing.

webhead:
WB's DCEU problem is caused by trying to copy the MCU instead of doing their own thing.

This is one of the thing that get me confused, which one is WB were trying to copy MCU? Bro when it comes to operating a shared universe, they're two ways that's done,

A.) The spin off model, which is where one film series is created and then a spin off is made e.g Wizarding world, tolken universe, game of thrones universe, fast and furious universe

B.) Multi- film model, where multiple films that takes place in the same universe with connections (either heavy or light) to each other are made.

Those are the standard ways of running a shared universe franchise. Every studio that chooses to do that must make use of one the above model.

That's what Marvel and WB did with the MCU and DCEU respectively, they both made use of the B model, although Marvel started it first in the cinematic sphere.

So if you're telling me that WB copied Marvel because of their choice to go the B model simply because Marvel started doing it first cinematic wise, well, i will like to ask you, what about the Timmverse that existed before the MCU and that made use of the B model? What about the DC Comics universe that existed before both the Marvel Comics universe and the MCU that made use of the B model? I will like to know, both in the film industry and the media as a whole? Who first used the B model? DC. So who copied who? Marvel.
So how exactly did WB copied Marvel if they were the one that started the B model both in the Film industry and the general media (especially comics)

Now if you're claim that WB copied Marvel is because of the tone, well, I'll like to ask, when it comes to CBM, is Marvel the only studio that has ever made light toned films? Has WB not also made light toned CBMs in the past? If yes, then how is light toned CBM a Marvel thing?

Yes, WB went with a dark tone for the DCEU but along the line they found out that that model wasn't working as regarding critical reception that's why they had to also introduce light tone into the universe to establish diversity.
And no, the DCEU didn't have it's problems because of the light tone introduction, WW had a light tone and it did very well. The DCEU had it's problem because of Zack's tonal choice in MoS and BvS, Zack's storytelling in BvS and WB needless interference in SS and JL. Those were the cause of the problem not the tone

Now back to the issue of WB copying Marvel, I think the problem here is, people were exposed to the scenario of Marvel using the B model for shared universe and light toned in their films which made it looked as it they were the first to ever use it, even though that isn't the case, so when WB decided to use the B model and light tone, it then looked as if they were copying.

WB never tried to copy any Marvel Formula because the so called Marvel Formula which is

* The B model, is one WB has been using in their comics even before Marvel came on board. It's also one, WB has been using in the Timmverse before the MCU

* Light tone, which WB has been using in some of their CBMs. The light tone is one of the standard tone in the movie industry as a whole, it's not just Marvel or WB thing, it's a motion picture industry thing.

But if you tell me that they were the first to use that formula in the cinematic sphere, I will like to ask how they were the first to use the light tone? As for the B model, cinematic or small screen, it doesn't change the fact that WB used it first even though they used it in small screens and not cinematic sphere.
But considering the circumstances, we are safe to say Marvel copied the B model from WB from the small screen onto the cinematic sphere while WB copied the B model from Marvel in the cinematic sphere. How about that and hello, Hollywood and movie industry as a whole has always been about copying which is not a problem but the problem is copying well.

So sweetheart, WB never copied Marvel in terms of CBMs, they have never, they aren't and they will never.


#Xavier
#DCian

Xavier5:
***Draws ear*** This is just a rumour ohhhhhhh


#Xavier

I said it prior to the leaks that Harry Lennix was in The Flash movie.

Minemrys:

I said it prior to the leaks that Harry Lennix was in The Flash movie.

Bro, to be candid, this is the first time I'm praying that a rumour is true


#Xavier
#DCian