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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by ocelot2006(m): 4:25pm On Feb 26, 2022
NigeriaNawa:


Turkey already shot down a Russian jet a few years ago, during the Syrian conflict. What did Russia do ? Nothing, zero, zilch. Putin is all mouth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyhGOvsM4F0

You probably need to read up on that incident again, and the Russian response that followed, particularly the massive carpet bombing of Turkmen area/holdouts in Syria, plus the establishment of S400 batteries and Su-35 Combat Air Patrols/Escorts. I won't call those "zilch, nada, nothing".

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Komolafe89: 4:25pm On Feb 26, 2022
They don start
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Dalot0: 4:26pm On Feb 26, 2022
Hmm
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by tutudesz: 4:27pm On Feb 26, 2022
SamuelAnyawu:
shocked
We no dey see you for Mess again O!
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by slowice(m): 4:28pm On Feb 26, 2022
helinues:


There is no sense in blocking the black sea now.

Do you know how many ships that pass across the sea yearly? How about the economic impact on Turkey

Did they say they are closing it to all ships.... They specifically mentioned Russian war ship you carry economy enter the matter

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by bestpunterever: 4:29pm On Feb 26, 2022
I'm tired of all this Russia Ukrain fight
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Trentee4eva: 4:29pm On Feb 26, 2022
I don’t support the Russian war. At the same time, I’m surprised by western hypocrisy

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by seunny4lif(m): 4:30pm On Feb 26, 2022
NigeriaNawa:


Turkey already shot down a Russian jet a few years ago, during the Syrian conflict. What did Russia do ? Nothing, zero, zilch. Putin is all mouth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyhGOvsM4F0
Then paid when Su24 bomber killed over 35 Turkish troops

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by slowice(m): 4:32pm On Feb 26, 2022
They will definitely close the black sea to Russian war ships.... Because they all know that Russia made a big mistake invading Ukraine in first place.
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by uunwanaobong3: 4:33pm On Feb 26, 2022
BEFORE YOU START TO BLAME RUSSIA AND CALL NATO SUPER HEROES, Please read through this to understand why Putin did what he is currently doing in Ukraine. And be fair in your judgement;
Please note I am not in support of invasion or occupation of an independent sovereign state by another, I condemn in totality the lost of innocent lives........... I am only trying to be neutral and Not following the popular opinion of the western world.. but looking at it from both Russia and the western world perspective.



Let begin;

In a televised speech, Putin reiterated his concerns about a possible NATO expansion into Ukraine, describing it as a “direct threat” to Russia’s national security, and made provocative interpretations of Ukrainian history. Among other things, the Russian president asserted that “Ukraine never had a tradition of genuine statehood,” and that the nation now known as Ukraine was carved out of Russia by Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin.
In it, he accused modern Ukraine of an “anti-Russian project” in which longstanding ties with Russia are cast aside, Nazi collaborators are glorified and the Russian language, spoken by around a third of Ukraine’s population, is shunned from public life.

To find out how accurate these statements are, as well as the roots of the current crisis, a closer look at the two countries’ shared history is needed.






Analysis:

Russia and Ukraine, as well as Belarus, share a common ancestry in Kievan Rus’, a loose federation of medieval city-states with its capital in Kyiv.

But in the 13th century, the area which became Russia was conquered by the Mongol Golden Horde, while western portions later fell to the Polish-Lithuanian Empire.

From there, three separate languages, and national identities, evolved.

It was not until the 17th century that Ukrainian Cossacks, led by Bohdan Khmelnytsky, rebelled, throwing off Polish rule and willingly reuniting with Russia.

But by the 19th century, the tsars had quite enough of the Ukrainian national spirit, which they saw as undermining their rule, and banned the Ukrainian language from many walks of public life.

The westernmost parts of Ukraine, meanwhile, were never ruled by imperial Russia and came under Polish or Austrian dominion instead, where the Ukrainian language was still allowed and as a result, nationalist sentiments are still strongest in western Ukrainian cities such as Lviv.

This identity split lies behind many of the troubles today.

“People living in these lands developed different geopolitical orientations, have different interpretations of their historical memory, different pantheons of heroes,” Russian political scientist Gulnaz Sharafutdinova told Al Jazeera.

As the empire plunged into civil war after the Russian Revolution of 1917, Ukraine was one of several nations, along with Finland, Poland and the Baltics, which attempted to break free of Russian rule.

Although Ukrainians and Russians are related through their Slavic roots and linguistic proximity, these are different nations, undoubtedly.

NOTE;
As the Cold War reached its final moments in 1990, Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, himself of Ukrainian descent, was assured by his Western counterparts that NATO, an alliance established explicitly to contain the Soviet Union, would expand “not one inch” to the east.

A year later, the USSR collapsed and Ukraine, as one of its constituent republics, declared independence. But the divisions within Ukraine itself were far from settled.

In the 2004 Orange Revolution, mass protests were held against what was seen as a rigged election in favour of Viktor Yanukovych of Donbas, who leaned towards Russia.

His opponent, Viktor Yushchenko, became president, and later bestowed the honour of “Hero of Ukraine” upon Bandera, sparking protests in east Ukraine which burned effigies of the leader.

“Yushchenko started the policies of nation-building that marginalised the national identity of the pro-Russian south and east, and privileged the nationalist interpretations, memories and heroes of western Ukraine,” Sharafutdinova said.

“In Russia, the Orange Revolution was viewed as a political change guided and even organised from the United States. It sparked fear and paranoia in the Kremlin.” English told Al Jazeera.

In 2014, after Yanukovych signed a trade deal with Russia, rather than with the EU as most Ukrainians had hoped, he was toppled in the Euromaidan revolution and fled to Russia.

When Zelensky was elected president, he promised to end the conflict with Russia, but at the same time, supported joining NATO alliance. His unwillingness to give up that support may arguably lie at the heart of the crisis.

“Preventing NATO expansion into Ukraine is Putin’s overwhelming motivation. Ukraine is positioned at Russia’s strategic heartland, and it is so big – so the potential for NATO bases and weapons all over the country is huge,” English, the historian, explained.

“Remember, while in the West people often think of NATO as a defensive force, in Russia, they were long indoctrinated against it, and then NATO bombed Serbia and Libya with no UN mandate and a little to no fallout from international community despite violating international law.”

Romania, Bulgaria, Poland and the Baltics (former Soviet regions) have all joined NATO.

Although Russia, as the successor to the Soviet Union, was offered guarantees the alliance would not expand “one inch”, the Kremlin nevertheless views a potentially hostile alliance creeping towards its doorstep as a threat, not unlike the US during the Cuban Missile Crisis who took similar measures.

“As Ukraine has slipped out of Russia’s control and found a greater engagement from the West and the United States (such as the currently investigated dealings between the current president family and Ukrainian government) - for the Russian political elites, it created a threat of NATO troops in places that are dear to the Russian heart and soul,” he said.

“Given Russia’s attitude towards Ukraine as a little brother, the Kremlin has a hard time imagining such potential scenarios that Ukraine might be able, one day, to join the Western alliance … even a faraway possibility for such a scenario causes them to see red.

This is report is from Al Jazeera.



My brother if na you be Russia president, what will you have done in such a situation as this?

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Ibime(m): 4:35pm On Feb 26, 2022
Lucas10:
If Turkey show him sef go collect.

Turkey is no pushover. They are low-key rumoured to be a nuclear country. Ottoman empire and Russia have long history of wars going back two centuries. Russia know their strength that's why they didn't go gung-ho after Turkey shot down a Russian plane some years back. Turkey is also a NATO member. The world knows what Turkey is capable of, that's why they only do peacekeeping mission in Northern Cyprus. When a country is militarily weak, UN and co do full invasion of disputed territories to take it and give it to the country disputing it, but when the country is strong, they only do peacekeeping mission.
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by idahme(m): 4:36pm On Feb 26, 2022
Lucas10:
If Turkey show him sef go collect.

Turkey is NATO and NATO is turkey, you get that.
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Nobody: 4:36pm On Feb 26, 2022
NigeriaNawa:


Turkey already shot down a Russian jet a few years ago, during the Syrian conflict. What did Russia do ? Nothing, zero, zilch. Putin is all mouth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyhGOvsM4F0

Make it louder
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by tegrianonigltd(m): 4:38pm On Feb 26, 2022
hoilet:
putin will go down

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Invaded Ukriane 2014, won and took back crimean back, so what are you saying, google Putin, fought as a soldier, intelligence, fought as a president. Don’t be sentimental be logical, man is fighting a just cause, America and nato, the west Dey find Putin trouble, Ukraine with an actor /comedian turn president with no political experience was used by the western world. He fall.

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by tegrianonigltd(m): 4:39pm On Feb 26, 2022
hoilet:
putin will go down

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Invaded Ukriane 2014, won and took back crimean back, so what are you saying, google Putin, fought as a soldier, intelligence, fought as a president. Don’t be sentimental be logical, man is fighting a just cause, America and nato, the west Dey find Putin trouble, Ukraine with an actor /comedian turn president with no political experience was used by the western world. He fall. Don’t come near my territory, I no go come yours, we agree, you wan come dey form

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by jcross19: 4:40pm On Feb 26, 2022
omoredia:
The lying western media lied about Iraq, they lied about covid and they are lying again about Ukraine and Russia
they are lying machine... The only weapon the western has " lies".

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by AngelicBeing: 4:41pm On Feb 26, 2022
MrBrownJay1:
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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Techguy96(m): 4:41pm On Feb 26, 2022
tongue
ocelot2006:


You probably need to read up on that incident again, and the Russian response that followed, particularly the massive carpet bombing of Turkmen area/holdouts in Syria, plus the establishment of S400 batteries and Su-35 Combat Air Patrols/Escorts. I won't call those "zilch, nada, nothing".
Still Russia will think twice before invading turkey like they did Ukraine.
I don't think Russia wants a war with NATO.
Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by obedience4(m): 4:41pm On Feb 26, 2022
Lucas10:
If Turkey show him sef go collect.

Turkey is NATO bro..

Just also to let you know Turkey is one of the few country that host us nuclear weapons.. Be careful what you wish for...
Turkey shot a Russia jet before what did Putin do..

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Techguy96(m): 4:42pm On Feb 26, 2022
tegrianonigltd:


Invaded Ukriane 2014, won and took back crimean back, so what are you saying, google Putin, fought as a soldier, intelligence, fought as a president. Don’t be sentimental be logical, man is fighting a just cause, America and nato, the west Dey find Putin trouble, Ukraine with an actor /comedian turn president with no political experience was used by the western world. He fall. Don’t come near my territory, I no go come yours, we agree, you wan come dey form
Is Ukraine Russia territory.
Besides why didn't they invade Poland?

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by CHOPUP411(m): 4:44pm On Feb 26, 2022
NigeriaNawa:


Turkey already shot down a Russian jet a few years ago, during the Syrian conflict. What did Russia do ? Nothing, zero, zilch. Putin is all mouth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyhGOvsM4F0

You need more knowledge about world politics

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by CoronaVirusPro: 4:45pm On Feb 26, 2022
NigeriaNawa:
It may still happen, through the Turkish president is discussing and make make a decision later today.



False information!

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Calibrator: 4:49pm On Feb 26, 2022
Does your opinion matter in the grand scheme of things?


Continue lashing cheesy
walkbrazil4k:
But Russia didn't follow international law when they decided to attack a sovereign nation, we know the Turkish dictator is a master at playing both sides, so don't count on Turkey at all, same way I condemn the USA for invading Iraq is the same way I can lashing russia

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by phenase(m): 4:52pm On Feb 26, 2022
OP TO PINCH YOU HARD DEY HUNGRY ME cool

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Lovenorth: 4:55pm On Feb 26, 2022
Turkey would not make that costly mistake

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by shine12: 4:56pm On Feb 26, 2022
AOB1:
To all those idiots supporting Putin don't worry just wait till bandit or any form of terrorist invade your village then you will know that war is not good, to all those guys supporting Putin because you hate USA and the west I pray you and all your family witness what is called war and I pray you never survive it because poor children and defenseless old ones are dying right now cry. Please don't cry foul when Nigeria Army or Police invade your home and kill your love ones just like what Putin is doing to the Ukrainians right now. I can't understand why you will decided to kill innocent children and old ones just because you hate their president and your selfish interest even if it's Boko Haram little children I can't even dare to hurt them because they were innocent but Putin thinking is different his soul and his supporters belongs to the devil.

We know war is not good and we never pray for such but the fact is containing Russia with NATO expansion to Ukraine and majority of the balck Sea isolates Russia and the US would do exactly the same if Canada, Mexico and Cuba form an alliance that allows a foreign Nation to station missile defence shield and cruise missiles close to their border. In fact, the USA will see it as an act of war.

Also, the west are hypocrites. All the people killed and destabilised in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Palestine,are they not human beings? How come there was no huge global outcry.
Do you know what Israel is doing daily to Palestine and we don't even hear it in the news. The west has the leverage of using their media as THE source of real information and people tend to fall for it.

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by mary42k2(f): 5:01pm On Feb 26, 2022
Make Ukraine give us free visa and a guarantee of being a citizens after we win. Me I ready to go and defend my father land in Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by InoGetJoy: 5:02pm On Feb 26, 2022
AOB1:
To all those idiots supporting Putin don't worry just wait till bandit or any form of terrorist invade your village then you will know that war is not good, to all those guys supporting Putin because you hate USA and the west I pray you and all your family witness what is called war and I pray you never survive it because poor children and defenseless old ones are dying right now cry. Please don't cry foul when Nigeria Army or Police invade your home and kill your love ones just like what Putin is doing to the Ukrainians right now. I can't understand why you will decided to kill innocent children and old ones just because you hate their president and your selfish interest even if it's Boko Haram little children I can't even dare to hurt them because they were innocent but Putin thinking is different his soul and his supporters belongs to the devil.
No dey talk rubbish. Will you allow your enemy who has sworn to destroy you to live next to you?
Abeg no dey cap careless

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by seunny4lif(m): 5:07pm On Feb 26, 2022
Turkey have only won 2 war against Russia 14 in their history.
Even pro Turkish are saying they will not be dragged into war with a nuke armed country.
Turk can’t even use Syria airspace until Russia open it for Turks during invasion of against both Kurds and ISIS
Ibime:


Turkey is no pushover. They are low-key rumoured to be a nuclear country. Ottoman empire and Russia have long history of wars going back two centuries. Russia know their strength that's why they didn't go gung-ho after Turkey shot down a Russian plane some years back. Turkey is also a NATO member. The world knows what Turkey is capable of, that's why they only do peacekeeping mission in Northern Cyprus. When a country is militarily weak, UN and co do full invasion of disputed territories to take it and give it to the country disputing it, but when the country is strong, they only do peacekeeping mission.

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Krismas(m): 5:08pm On Feb 26, 2022
seunny4lif:

Nothing new
Turkey can’t close it unless their is a war between Russia and Turkey.
Closing is a declaration of war
Turkey will not start a war for NATO

Well, Russia troops have taken over Ghanima in Kiev.
The Russian Chechen troops.
Those guys are not nice shocked
grin Turkey control the straits and can close them legally against Russian ships since there is a NATO sanction against Russia

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Re: Ukraine War: Turkey Denies Closing Black Sea To Russian Warships by Alamkir: 5:10pm On Feb 26, 2022
NigeriaNawa:


Turkey already shot down a Russian jet a few years ago, during the Syrian conflict. What did Russia do ? Nothing, zero, zilch. Putin is all mouth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyhGOvsM4F0

Someone has entered Kiev the capital of ukrain, u are still saying putin is all mouth.... Continue.......continue deceiving urself

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