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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RadleyLC(m): 6:51am On Mar 01, 2022
BrickDevo:

Sure, the people can get better, but the country's situation will certainly affect us all
It sure does.

At the end of it all, it's how I choose to live that matters!

Do enjoy your day.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 6:52am On Mar 01, 2022
RadleyLC:

It sure does.

At the end of it all, it's how I choose to live that matters!

Do enjoy your day.
Thanks, enjoy yours too
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 6:58am On Mar 01, 2022
hamtabfawaz:



Good Evening Sir.

Cleaning is definitely not part of the scope of work for Pop workers. That's meant for the cleaners.

However, you can respectfully request them to clean up for you, before or after you've given the job.

Diverting poor Labour's balance after they've completed your job, just because they didn't clean up the site for you, is really not a kind thing to do sir.✓


This is just a call to attention✓.
God bless you Sir.

You get it wrong brother, we are talking about pop waste product while they are working on site, it’s there full duty to clear all those rubbish on floor before they leave the site ,
Even my glass and doors if your messed up with it you will clean it for me bcs you met it in good condition.
Nobody asked them to do normal general cleaning of the house

If happed they didn’t pack it who’s responsibly to pack all that mess they did, is it bricklayer, electrician or tiller that will pack it ? It’s question to you,
If happed that others artisan left the site in such mode before there arrivals will be have good environment to work.

See all my worker either staff or I engage you it’s a deal btw us that you must clear your portion after you delivered your job.

General cleaning of the house is diff to this

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:00am On Mar 01, 2022
rotecch77:


You get it wrong brother, we are talking about pop waste product while they are working on site, it’s there full duty to clear all those rubbish on floor before they leave the site ,
If happed they didn’t pack it who’s responsibly to pack all that mess they did, bricklayer, electrician or tiller ? It’s question to you,
If happed that others artisan left the site in such mode before there arrivals will be have good environment to work.

See all my worker either staff or I engage you it’s a deal btw us that you must clear your portion after you delivered your job.

General cleaning of the house is diff to this

My guys know the rule.... Clean after you finish your work... That's the standard. Some times we even buy brooms just to make sure evewhere is well tidy up..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 7:02am On Mar 01, 2022
I ran some searches on the issue of cleaning up and who should or should do it and what the law says.

Sharing so we all - clients and vendors can follow best practice

My thoughts, if you met the place clean and leave it a mess, you have issues

Why not include post-work cleanup as a a line item in your proposal

Why not use this as a differentiator? Which car repair man would you rather do business? the one who puts all sorts of oil/soot stains on your clean car requiring you to go the car wash post repair or the one that uses those car covers to ensure that your car leaves his workshop the way it came?

Clients, make this a requirement for awarding the contract and things will change!

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:09am On Mar 01, 2022
twinskenny:


My guys know the rule.... Clean after you finish your work... That's the standard. Some times we even buy brooms just to make sure evewhere is well tidy up..

Yes o bro, how can someone messed up the whole site and leave it that way all bcs you handle pop work for me.
That pop waste can annoying heeennn

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 7:14am On Mar 01, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


Ans To your ??: NO
Morning sir.
You missed the Point.
Personally i don't like dirts. From my first day on a project, I make available a trash bag for my workers to use in order not litter the environment.

Talking About POP stains, which are unavoidable but can definitely be minimised with some measures, I'd reiterate again "it's not the job of pop workers to clean up the stains for you, but you can respectfully request them to help".
Dirts or stains: it's advisable to spell out the terms & objectives of a contract/job/work before you give it, so as to avoid arguments.

The common Nigerian behaviour: you will see someone eating snacks in his car & he will wind down just to throw the nylon or trash whatever on the road!!! So many examples of such disgusting habits.

But I believe you can bring people up to your standard & make them learn certain things or give terms on how they can work with you perfectly.

Ps: My post is not an attack on anyone.
it's just a call to attention.


We all make mistakes.

Well said Chief
It's advisable to spell out terms of work from start truly but I will give n recommend the artisan that does that over the one that doesn't even if his/her bill is quite high.
Cheers

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Meklex(m): 7:22am On Mar 01, 2022
What's a good(average) price to pay for workmanship to do an L shape fence on a land?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by badbreathcure101: 7:25am On Mar 01, 2022
rotecch77:


You get it wrong brother, we are talking about pop waste product while they are working on site, it’s there full duty to clear all those rubbish on floor before they leave the site ,
Even my glass and doors if your messed up with it you will clean it for me bcs you met it in good condition.
Nobody asked them to do normal general cleaning of the house

If happed they didn’t pack it who’s responsibly to pack all that mess they did, is it bricklayer, electrician or tiller that will pack it ? It’s question to you,
If happed that others artisan left the site in such mode before there arrivals will be have good environment to work.

See all my worker either staff or I engage you it’s a deal btw us that you must clear your portion after you delivered your job.

General cleaning of the house is diff to this
I done talk am, some people here are mad already!! You think because they pop guys means they are peasants, have you seen how pop guys live, in short eh this thread should be closed because the self entitlement here is becoming something else like seriously.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:36am On Mar 01, 2022
I have made my point here on this matter (pop waste ) its the duty of my pop installer to clear and clean Any messed up component to certain level. Then if you like go to Eko hotel messed up there floor and leave it for them to pack its non of my biz

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by austino2018: 7:37am On Mar 01, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 8:22am On Mar 01, 2022
Welcome to the third month of the year. It is the month of grace. Grace shall speak for you, see your through, remove you from condemnation and judgement into mercy and favour. It shall restore Hope to all previous lost. It shall bring you healing and supply your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus.Enjoy unmeasurable grace this month in Jesus mighty name amen. Happy New Month of March.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:25am On Mar 01, 2022
rotecch77:


You get it wrong brother, we are talking about pop waste product while they are working on site, it’s there full duty to clear all those rubbish on floor before they leave the site ,
Even my glass and doors if your messed up with it you will clean it for me bcs you met it in good condition.
Nobody asked them to do normal general cleaning of the house

If happed they didn’t pack it who’s responsibly to pack all that mess they did, is it bricklayer, electrician or tiller that will pack it ? It’s question to you,
If happed that others artisan left the site in such mode before there arrivals will be have good environment to work.

See all my worker either staff or I engage you it’s a deal btw us that you must clear your portion after you delivered your job.

General cleaning of the house is diff to this

I’m with you Sir.

The NairaLanders that have worked at my site can attest to cleanliness and cleanup being part of the negotiation.

It’s doubly important to me because I already live onsite and have two Dobermans.

It’s not about cheating but adhering to the agreed upon scope of work.

People treat you and your property the way you allow them to treat you and it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:26am On Mar 01, 2022
twinskenny:


My guys know the rule.... Clean after you finish your work... That's the standard. Some times we even buy brooms just to make sure evewhere is well tidy up..

I’m proud of you Bro. It’s the way it should be.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 8:53am On Mar 01, 2022
Nigerians are Nigeria's problem.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 9:08am On Mar 01, 2022
rotecch77:


You get it wrong brother, we are talking about pop waste product while they are working on site, it’s there full duty to clear all those rubbish on floor before they leave the site ,
Even my glass and doors if your messed up with it you will clean it for me bcs you met it in good condition.
Nobody asked them to do normal general cleaning of the house

If happed they didn’t pack it who’s responsibly to pack all that mess they did, is it bricklayer, electrician or tiller that will pack it ? It’s question to you,
If happed that others artisan left the site in such mode before there arrivals will be have good environment to work.

See all my worker either staff or I engage you it’s a deal btw us that you must clear your portion after you delivered your job.

General cleaning of the house is diff to this

The Bolded is well said✓
Since you both agreed, before you engage them, Anyone who breaches the agreement, can face the consequences.

what am against is: Nothing is said at the start of the job, after the completion of the job then one disrespectfully request them to clean it up, just because you think it's their job & when they don't, you just divert their funds. This is not a kind thing to do. ×

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 9:09am On Mar 01, 2022
hamtabfawaz:



Good Evening Sir.

Cleaning is definitely not part of the scope of work for Pop workers. That's meant for the cleaners.

However, you can respectfully request them to clean up for you, before or after you've given the job.

Diverting poor Labour's balance after they've completed your job, just because they didn't clean up the site for you, is really not a kind thing to do sir.✓


This is just a call to attention✓.
God bless you Sir.
If you mess up my house and you didn't clean it after your service... My brother, there's nothing like respectfully requesting for you to clean it up...
I must scold you for messing with my house...
Imagine leaving your car for a mechanic and he messed up your seat with oil...
Or giving a cobbler your shoe and leaves hardened gum allover your shoe...
And you tell me to start negotiating cleaning....
What is worth doing is worth doing well...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:16am On Mar 01, 2022
bobkezel:

If you mess up my house and you didn't clean it after your service... My brother, there's nothing like respectfully requesting for you to clean it up...
I must scold you for messing with my house...
Imagine leaving your car for a mechanic and he messed up your seat with oil...
Or giving a cobbler your shoe and leaves hardened gum allover your shoe...
And you tell me to start negotiating cleaning....
What is worth doing is worth doing well...

I wonder ooo.
So I will negotiate with my.
Bricklayer to clear all cement mixture and broken block when he closed for a day job

I will negotiate with my tiler to clean cement paste on tiles with packing of broken tiles after a day work.

I will renegotiate with my plumber to clean all cement paste and silicon sealant on bathroom appliance after a day work

I will negotiate with my Caperter to pack the sawdust after a day work

Nigerian haaa

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 9:24am On Mar 01, 2022
One of the rules my father taught me was leave a place as good as or better than you found it and not worse.

Anyone artisan who does not practice this does not deserve your money!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 9:35am On Mar 01, 2022
bobkezel:

If you mess up my house and you didn't clean it after your service... My brother, there's nothing like respectfully requesting for you to clean it up...
I must scold you for messing with my house...
Imagine leaving your car for a mechanic and he messed up your seat with oil...
Or giving a cobbler your shoe and leaves hardened gum allover your shoe...
And you tell me to start negotiating cleaning....
What is worth doing is worth doing well...

Lol . grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 9:36am On Mar 01, 2022
rotecch77:


I wonder ooo.
So I will negotiate with my.
Bricklayer to clear all cement mixture and broken block when he closed for a day job

I will negotiate with my tiler to clean cement paste on tiles with packing of broken tiles after a day work.

I will renegotiate with my plumber to clean all cement paste and silicon sealant on bathroom appliance after a day work

I will negotiate with my Caperter to pack the sawdust after a day work

Nigerian haaa
E be things...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 9:42am On Mar 01, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


I’m with you Sir.

The NairaLanders that have worked at my site can attest to cleanliness and cleanup being part of the negotiation.

It’s doubly important to me because I already live onsite and have two Dobermans.

It’s not about cheating but adhering to the agreed upon scope of work.

People treat you and your property the way you allow them to treat you and it.



The point is clear✓ .

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 9:46am On Mar 01, 2022
Horlardorjah:


Well said Chief
It's advisable to spell out terms of work from start truly but I will give n recommend the artisan that does that over the one that doesn't even if his/her bill is quite high.
Cheers

You're on point.✓
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:00am On Mar 01, 2022
Beframia:
Nigerians are Nigeria's problem.

Why can't he sell direct from strategically located warehouses? Or even factory direct?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 10:05am On Mar 01, 2022
diordaves:


Polystyrene ke? Superior to POP? Polystyrene is a fire risk highly inflammable. It is a very dangerous ceiling solution. DO NOT GO THERE.

Na true o.
Didnt know its highly flammable. Just did a google search.

If only they can make it safer.. polystrene is nice

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Olatunji67POP(m): 10:34am On Mar 01, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:44am On Mar 01, 2022
I paid ₦15,000 to clean my site after just roofing work

What happened?

The ex contractor left the site with waste and all that, then the roofer/carpenter came to add theirs.

Being that I was not always around, I decided to ask for a video of the environment. Discovered everythwhere was messed up.

I'm grateful the plumber, ACguy and electrician didn't add theirs.

Imagine paying ₦15k to clean when we haven't even plastered.

Lets learn to stand out in our various professions by adding that extra touch to our expertise.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 10:57am On Mar 01, 2022
diordaves:


There is no POP craze here. Just clean smooth finish. No organic or symmetric designs. Just clean flat finish with plasterboard as we call it.

Thanks for sharing I appreciate
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 10:58am On Mar 01, 2022
earthrealm:


Have you considered polystrene?.
I consider it superior to pop, no stains and waterproof as well

Thanks for your comments, I gather from other responses that it is a fire hazard so I will stop at plain gypsum boards.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 11:09am On Mar 01, 2022
Larwin:

But you can tell him to use martya pump, it's not expensive and regulate power consumption automatically. All these lorenzi Interdab will burn if Yr power supply is nt dat good.

Saved for future reference

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 11:12am On Mar 01, 2022
somehow:
I paid ₦15,000 to clean my site after just roofing work

What happened?

The ex contractor left the site with waste and all that, then the roofer/carpenter came to add theirs.

Being that I was not always around, I decided to ask for a video of the environment. Discovered everythwhere was messed up.

I'm grateful the plumber, ACguy and electrician didn't add theirs.

Imagine paying ₦15k to clean when we haven't even plastered.

Lets learn to stand out in our various professions by adding that extra touch to our expertise.

Please, If you don't mind me asking, How is your refund issue with Next going?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 12:35pm On Mar 01, 2022
KolaShangOne:


Please, If you don't mind me asking, How is your refund issue with Next going?

Still the same song : "I'm sorry I have not sent you anything yet. This is because I don't have any dime yet".

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