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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 11:51am On Feb 27, 2022
MT:
Sheer assumption. War is not won by who has superior military hardware sometimes. Go back to history, and you will find out that the former formidable USSR ran away from the rag tag afghans.

It's the Ukrainians terrain, even if Russians overwhelm them, guerilla warfare would be birthed. They can't hold that country!
You either didn't read where this conversation begun or were in the middle of thinking other stuff while reading comments and you jumped in...

The conversation was about Russia using old equipments Tanks, IFVs in Ukrain so far, when we know they have upgraded and more advanced versions and in large quantities. So why aren't they using the new equipment which provide better protection, offensive capabilities?

if you enter street car race and you notice your opponent using their old car to race you when you are aware that they have a new more powerful modern car, it's logical to assume that they think they can defeat you using their old car and they are saving up the new car for a stronger opponent or the finals..
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 4:00pm On Feb 27, 2022
MT:
Sheer assumption. War is not won by who has superior military hardware sometimes. Go back to history, and you will find out that the former formidable USSR ran away from the rag tag afghans.

It's the Ukrainians terrain, even if Russians overwhelm them, guerilla warfare would be birthed. They can't hold that country!
Who says Putin wanna hold Ukraine??
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GeneralFarouq: 5:54pm On Feb 27, 2022
MT:
Sheer assumption. War is not won by who has superior military hardware sometimes. Go back to history, and you will find out that the former formidable USSR ran away from the rag tag afghans.

It's the Ukrainians terrain, even if Russians overwhelm them, guerilla warfare would be birthed. They can't hold that country!
RU ain't holding the country, they know better.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GeneralFarouq: 5:56pm On Feb 27, 2022
Bleep
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 7:21pm On Feb 27, 2022
Who know if this news is confirmed huh


The Antonov An-225 Mriya, the world’s largest aircraft might have become a casualty of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 8:00pm On Feb 27, 2022
jteku:
Who know if this news is confirmed huh


The Antonov An-225 Mriya, the world’s largest aircraft might have become a casualty of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Really sad, Mriya was the only existing An-255... she is gone now according to Ukraine state media on Twitter.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 8:11pm On Feb 27, 2022
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 9:22pm On Feb 27, 2022
SuperSixSeven:
Really sad, Mriya was the only existing An-255... she is gone now according to Ukraine state media on Twitter.
The second one is in storage and has not been fully built for years now
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 9:51pm On Feb 27, 2022
BOOM

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nemesis4you: 10:07pm On Feb 27, 2022
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by sczeska: 10:09pm On Feb 27, 2022
SuperSixSeven:
BOOM
I don laugh tire. grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by upko: 8:56am On Feb 28, 2022
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:42am On Feb 28, 2022
Ignore this at your peril.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:18am On Feb 28, 2022
The dangers of believing your own bullshit!

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1497498201527521281.html
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:41am On Feb 28, 2022
I have been relying on Israeli reports and analysis of the Russian war on Ukraine for 2 reasons:
1) the Isarelis know all about quick and dirty invasions; and
2) they have excellent relations with both countries and have studiously avoided taking sides.


https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/.premium-putin-believed-his-propaganda-too-much-and-the-russian-army-is-stuttering-in-ukraine-1.10638472
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 11:35am On Feb 28, 2022
Africans being abused by Ukrainian officials

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 3:04pm On Feb 28, 2022
These guys did an excellent job covering the Azeri-Armenia conflict.
I trust their info.

What both sides have lost so far:

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 4:48pm On Feb 28, 2022

402 SF hitting iswap hard
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 6:40pm On Feb 28, 2022
SuperSixSeven:
Why is this "anti-woke" indian motherfucker that literally wrote that BLM protesting racism is the same as being racist still here?
BLM and Antifa were actually George Soros fronts to economically sabotage the unprecedented progress made by Black America.
Black America made gains NEVER seen before
under Trump. The evidence is OVERWHELMING!

The Trump Boom Lifted Black Americans
Before the pandemic, the economy grew in ways that mostly benefited low-income and middle-class households.
[url][/https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-trump-boom-lifted-black-americans-unemployment-rate-education-real-wages-upward-mobility-economic-growth-biden-equity-11643389476rl]

If their final decision comes down to which candidate will continue the economic progress that lifted median Black household incomes to their highest levels on record and pushed Black unemployment rates and poverty rates down to their lowest levels, then there is really just one choice: President Trump.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/01/donald-trump-african-american-black-economic-progress-vote-column/6081310002/

The poverty rate for black Americans also reached record lows, while a total of 1 million lifted themselves out of poverty between 2016 and 2019. [b]Over the same period, real median household income for black families rose over $4,000 after actually falling over the previous 14 years (2002–2016). [/b]With incomes rising so fast, it should not be surprising that black homeownership skyrocketed to 47 percent, another mark not reached since the 2008 recession.
[url][https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/07/african-americans-and-the-economy-under-trump//url]

Imo, the Real Rulers of America were panicked at the rising of the darker permanent under class which was accomplished with financial assets far less than Whites. If you or any reliable acquaintance has been to the Black areas of the US the lack of banks and high number of shylocks and usurious pay day loan outfits is striking.
Political illiteracy, BLM/Antifa violence, emotional voting patterns and MASSIVE rigging put a handbrake on BA rising prosperity.
Pls kill that ignorant noise!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by EVarn(m): 9:07pm On Feb 28, 2022
Fidha254:
You either didn't read where this conversation begun or were in the middle of thinking other stuff while reading comments and you jumped in...

The conversation was about Russia using old equipments Tanks, IFVs in Ukrain so far, when we know they have upgraded and more advanced versions and in large quantities. So why aren't they using the new equipment which provide better protection, offensive capabilities?

if you enter street car race and you notice your opponent using their old car to race you when you are aware that they have a new more powerful modern car, it's logical to assume that they think they can defeat you using their old car and they are saving up the new car for a stronger opponent or the finals..
Putin’s current objective is to capture major Ukrainian strongholds, effect regime change and use a quick decisive victory to change European geopolitics and further extract security guarantees from NATO; his aim is to do all these with minimal civilian casualties and without alienating the Ukrainian populace, he wants them to see him not as a despot but as a liberator and unifying symbol. This may be what has informed Russia’s relative soft-pedaling in Ukraine.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 9:22pm On Feb 28, 2022
kikuyu1:
BLM and Antifa were actually George Soros fronts to economically sabotage the unprecedented progress made by Black America.
Black America made gains NEVER seen before
under Trump. The evidence is OVERWHELMING!


[url][/https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-trump-boom-lifted-black-americans-unemployment-rate-education-real-wages-upward-mobility-economic-growth-biden-equity-11643389476rl]


https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/01/donald-trump-african-american-black-economic-progress-vote-column/6081310002/


[url][https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/07/african-americans-and-the-economy-under-trump//url]

Imo, the Real Rulers of America were panicked at the rising of the darker permanent under class which was accomplished with financial assets far less than Whites. If you or any reliable acquaintance has been to the Black areas of the US the lack of banks and high number of shylocks and usurious pay day loan outfits is striking.
Political illiteracy, BLM/Antifa violence, emotional voting patterns and MASSIVE rigging put a handbrake on BA rising prosperity.
Pls kill that ignorant noise!
Your immense fantasy is always entertaining. Keep it coming!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 10:35pm On Feb 28, 2022
SuperSixSeven:
Your immense fantasy is always entertaining. Keep it coming!
I speak facts using English. My sources proving Trump era economic benefits for blacks are all valid. It's difficult if NOT impossible to get the Powers That Be confess why they're so determined to keep blacks poor.
Tell me Genius, who instituted the systemic financial hurdles Black Americans face? Heard of redlining the practice in which customers from certain areas are delayed loans?

For decades, many banks in the U.S. denied mortgages to people, mostly people of color in urban areas, preventing them from buying a home in certain neighborhoods or getting a loan to renovate their house. The practice — once backed by the U.S. government — started in the 1930s and took place across the country. That includes in many of the nation's largest cities, such as Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, Tampa and others with large minority populations.
[url][https://www.cbsnews.com/news/redlining-what-is-history-mike-bloomberg-comments//url/url]

I mentioned the popularity of payday loans and their usurious interest. Look at that! That graph shows how Blacks are per capita the most unbanked.
That's no coincidence.
And yet they made REAL progress!

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 2:38am On Mar 01, 2022
Someone said Russia can beat Sweden, I say even the SANDF can tear apart current Russia's formation... No offense, which military in the world literary drives a 5km convoy on the main road to invade a town? I'd light them up with artillery and carpet bombing.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 8:28am On Mar 01, 2022
GreenandGold:
Someone said Russia can beat Sweden, I say even the SANDF can tear apart current Russia's formation... No offense, which military in the world literary drives a 5km convoy on the main road to invade a town? I'd light them up with artillery and carpet bombing.
That's exactly what the Angolans used to do:
---Every year or two, the Angolan general staff would draw up a fresh offensive against UNITA, as per the Soviet doctrine they'd learned;
---The Soviet advisors would enthusiastically welcome it, as it confirmed their Angolan hosts had absorbed the lessons;
---The Cubans routinely opposed these plans, arguing grand offensives were no way to defeat UNITA, and only served to invite incursion by the SADF to rescue UNITA. And they were always ignored.

Brigades would be stood up and marched in massive lumbering columns towards Jamba (UNITA HQ). SA SF and UNITA guerillas would harass the rear; SADF artillery and air force would plaster the poor Angolans and the Cubans would have to come cover the withdrawal to prevent complete annihilation.
Rinse and repeat every few years.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:00am On Mar 01, 2022
Armchair generals
The most useless of all
grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 9:21am On Mar 01, 2022
Lurker4Long:
That's exactly what the Angolans used to do:
---Every year or two, the Angolan general staff would draw up a fresh offensive against UNITA, as per the Soviet doctrine they'd learned;
---The Soviet advisors would enthusiastically welcome it, as it confirmed their Angolan hosts had absorbed the lessons;
---The Cubans routinely opposed these plans, arguing grand offensives were no way to defeat UNITA, and only served to invite incursion by the SADF to rescue UNITA. And they were always ignored.

Brigades would be stood up and marched in massive lumbering columns towards Jamba (UNITA HQ). SA SF and UNITA guerillas would harass the rear; SADF artillery and air force would plaster the poor Angolans and the Cubans would have to come cover the withdrawal to prevent complete annihilation.
Rinse and repeat every few years.
Exactly, Soviet war doctrine is not well thought off.

Honestly, the only reason why the Russians are still alive is because they're fighting poor Ukraine, if they had engaged any formal military with this strategy, they'd be inhalated by now.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long:
GreenandGold:
Exactly, Soviet war doctrine is not well thought off.

Honestly, the only reason why the Russians are still alive is because they're fighting poor Ukraine, if they had engaged any formal military with this strategy, they'd be inhalated by now.
It's also testament to how Ukraine's air force and artillery are not a factor that this lumbering column has not been obliterated.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 12:33pm On Mar 01, 2022
Lurker4Long:
It's also testament to how Ukraine's air force is not a factor that this lumbering column has not been obliterated.
I must admit, this is a war blunder. These Russian generals lining up their troops like they are going to a field exercise needs to be rounded up and face a military court martial.
Even in the era without drones, this convoy can be easily ambushed. Reminds me of the Nigerian civil war. When the Biafran army ambushed over 100 Nigerian army vehicles at Abagana. Reports claim nearly 5,000 Nigerian soldiers under (then) Colonel Murtala Mohammed of the Second Division, Nigerian Army lost their lives.
The vehicles were said to be lined up this way. British reporters before the convoy took of said, "Africa most powerful weapons approaching the heart of Biafra and they Biafrans have no way to stop it". A single short from the rebels explosive hit a fuel tanker and burnt the entire convoy.
My point is, I hope the Russians stop this cowardice. This is a sitting duck for even mortar bombardments! I don't know why they Russians can't make the entire Ukrainian internet blank and disconnected. They are letting troop movement to be exposed. You don't let troop movements to be known to the enemy, that's a recipe for failure.
This war, the way Russians are being captured, makes the Russians look mediocre compared to the Americans. I hope the Russians are only deliberately being soft.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 1:07pm On Mar 01, 2022
Some reports say Russians soldiers were told they were going to liberate Ukraine from Nazis and they were also told they would be welcomed as liberators in Ukraine.

If this is true, then I'm sure they're totally surprised when they get fired at by Ukrainian forces
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by topgun98: 1:19pm On Mar 01, 2022
GreenandGold:
Exactly, Soviet war doctrine is not well thought off.

Honestly, the only reason why the Russians are still alive is because they're fighting poor Ukraine, if they had engaged any formal military with this strategy, they'd be inhalated by now.
I am no military expert here but I believe their approach would be different if they were fighting a NATO country.

The initial plan relied too heavily on a Ukrainian military that would be recalcitrant to fight and mostly flee before the “mighty” Russian army, hence the reason for using lightly armoured units, sometimes even reconnaissance units to attempt to occupy large cities, heck a riot police squad ‘omon’ of about 80 troops attempted to march on Kiev.
They only deployed about 30 to 35 percent of their initial troop build up on the border in the initial 3 days of the war and also mostly 70’s and 80’s era equipment used by the backwater eastern military districts

The vast majority of their capabilities have not been brought to bear, but that being said the greatest operational failure of the Russians was their failure to achieve air superiority within the first 72 hours of the war, the fact that TB-2 drones were still operational until about yesterday is unacceptable.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 1:46pm On Mar 01, 2022
GreenandGold:
Someone said Russia can beat Sweden, I say even the SANDF can tear apart current Russia's formation... No offense, which military in the world literary drives a 5km convoy on the main road to invade a town? I'd light them up with artillery and carpet bombing.
this will be controversial but IMO as in MY Opinion South African tactics have always been superior than that of the Soviet Union, as was seen during the border war..... Even today the SANDFs problems thankfully aren't due doctrine(Suadi Arabia springs to mind) but simply due to funding and salary vs capital expenditure ratio....our tactics have always revolved around high mobility with minimum logistic and Air cover... Hence why even without air cover our boys have done outstanding in the DRC, CAR and now in Moz
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 1:51pm On Mar 01, 2022
ishit4bodyy:
Armchair generals
The most useless of all
grin
this thread although it says strictly photos and videos has always been a place for discussion wrt to military matters.... People are allowed to air their opinion and others can respond to that...i I'm pretty certain that you sit on your high horse acting like you know better than the rest when in fact you know nothing cool
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