₦airaland Forum

BKayy:
What a simple way to agree that you know nothing.

You thought you could play the emotional and sovereign bullshit card but you never knew that you are engaging someone that knows the genesis. Now you are bringing internal conflict.

Ok in that internal conflict, you believe and campaign for Russia to remain neutral when Ethnic Russians are singled out, hunted and killed by Ukraine Government sponsored Azov militia?



My dear you are a genocide ambassador.

Go and learn the meaning of Genocide before spewing trash on social media.

Russia dont have any right to wade into an internal conflict which is not part of Russia.

There is a similar situation in Nigeria where we have separatist in the Southeast fighting to leaving Nigeria.

Why hasnt any country come to support and recognize them as a country as the madman Putin did in Donbass?


I lnow why. .........the difference is nuclear weapons.


If Ukraine had not given up its nuclear weapons, Russia wouldn't be this aggressive and would've only barked but not bite.

sotall:
Answer the goddamn question...Does that make it right for the innocent children in Ukraine to die?

Does that make it right for innocent citizens of Ukraine to die helplessly?

Because America also did bad things?

Yes it makes it right, because if Russia doesn't act on time, the casualties will be theirs in the long run. It is their own innocent children that will be killed.

Infact it very right because the fate of this innocent citizens is in the hands of their very own leaders in Ukraine. If the Leaders in Ukraine care so much about their own citizens the wouldn't have worked so hard for such an AVOIDABLE outcome that is claiming the lives of their people by choosing to align with the enemies whose sole aim is to destroy Russia.

You are placing emotions over rationale.

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sotall:
Go and learn the meaning of Genocide before spewing trash on social media.

Russia dont have any right to wade into an internal conflict which is not part of Russia.

There is a similar situation in Nigeria where we have separatist in the Southeast fighting to leaving Nigeria.

Why hasnt any country come to support and recognize them as a country as the madman Putin did in Donbass?


I lnow why. .........the difference is nuclear weapons.


If Ukraine had not given up its nuclear weapons, Russia wouldn't be this aggressive and would've only barked but not bite.

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Trash.

Europeans treat you like feces yet you adore them. Don't pray for any of them, they HATE you

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Do I have a business with you?

No, of course not. You don't.

Frankly speaking, both Russia and Ukraine are extremely racist countries so I don't stand with any of them. We Africans are supposed to focus on solving our internal problems and fixing our countries that are gradually going up in flames. You spend so much energy talking about Ukraine and Russia when in actuality, Fulani terrorists have killed more Nigerians than the entire people killed in the Russia - Ukraine war so far. Yet, it does not concern you because in your colonized mind, you only care about a group of people in far away europe who are treating our people like shit and won't allow our people evacuate from war torn Ukraine.

Rugaria:
Penguin the bird of reasoning just disappointed a huge fan by forgetting his thinking cap at home today..
It is called foreign policy/relations for a reason. What's going on is nothing but "The game nations play"..
There is actually a book with that title. I will recommend it to you.
Foreign policy is not a place to sprout all sorts of emotional vituperations. It's based on interests. When your interests are being undermined, you need to act. Russia is undermining Americas interest by questioning the relevance of the dollar and America is undermining Russia by using Ukraine.

Putin knows and is taking actions to squash this. If he listens to you, Russia will be as useless and irrelevant in world affairs like your Nigeria in ten years time. The West knows what they are doing. Russia knows what she's doing. You're the one alligning to some quarters based on emotions and not based on interests. Always follow your interests on foreign policies and international relations. You think the Americans and the West were not aware of the Biafran genocide? Yet they supported the Nigerians! Why? Oil and regional control promised by the Nigerian government while Ojukwu was acting tough...
God doesn't fight wars! Humans do.... Interests.. Always..

Now he has gone to war and the world is isolating Russia, you think it’s now Russia would be more relevant in world politics?

Penguin2:
I do not intend to bore you with long epistle. So, this is gonna be concise and straight to the point.

On February 24th, 2022, Russia made good her threat and invaded sovereign Ukraine and has continued to bombard the lowly country since then.

From the build up of the crisis till now that the crisis has started, Russia has clearly been the aggressor with Ukraine’s only crime being her intention to join bodies and allies that can ensure her security and self preservation.

But I’m appalled that some people on Nairaland are standing with Russia.

They conjure all sorts of conjectures to justify their wicked, irrational, narcissistic and sadistic stance.

First, they say US and her Western allies have been invading other countries with no one forming a global police on them; therefore, US and the west have no justification in trying to stop Russia from razing Ukraine to the ground.

They argue how Western media has skewed reportage, over the years, to present Russia in bad light unrepresentative of the true reality of things.

But do these things justify Russia’s attitude?

Why do people choose to side with evil? Or are they by implication telling us they are evil and would behave like Putin if they were in his position?

If anything, let us consider the facts of the cases of US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and even Libya.

Osama Bin Laden hijacked a US bound commercial airplane and crashed it at the New York Twin Towers which led to a lot human and material damage. When he was done, he fled to Afghanistan and was receiving shield from the govt of the day. What did you expect US to do? Fold her arms and watch Afghanistan become terrorist haven where insurgents will call home? If US had left Afghanistan without consequences, other fundamentalist Arab countries would toed same path and start allowing their territories to serve as breeding ground for Islamic Fundamentalists and terrorists.

Same with Iraq and Libya. Saddam Hussein and Mummar Gadaffi were two known Islamic fundamentalists. Sponsoring Islamic insurgents and allowing their territories to be used as training field for these terrorists.

Now, how do these things compare to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?

Is Ukraine harbouring any individual that committed a crime against either the govt of Russia or the Russian people?

What Putin is doing is bullying, it’s wrong, unprovoked and unjustified. Therefore anybody supporting Putin’s actions is evil and should be segregated from people and a psychological check run on such person to determine the level of mental damage.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

The same reason people supported Nigeria invasion of Biafraland
Nigerians has no moral right to condemn Russia.
At least Russia hasn't blocked access to food for little kids.
The same NATO group fighting Putin
Supported genocide against Biafraland
Hypocrites .

Penguin2:
Now he has gone to war and the world is isolating Russia, you think it’s now Russia would be more relevant in world politics?

Isolation is temporal... Once he's done in Ukraine and contacts are made with the West, you will see the sanctions go one after the other.. Meanwhile the objectives have been achieved..

Penguin2:
I do not intend to bore you with long epistle. So, this is gonna be concise and straight to the point.

On February 24th, 2022, Russia made good her threat and invaded sovereign Ukraine and has continued to bombard the lowly country since then.

From the build up of the crisis till now that the crisis has started, Russia has clearly been the aggressor with Ukraine’s only crime being her intention to join bodies and allies that can ensure her security and self preservation.

But I’m appalled that some people on Nairaland are standing with Russia.

They conjure all sorts of conjectures to justify their wicked, irrational, narcissistic and sadistic stance.

First, they say US and her Western allies have been invading other countries with no one forming a global police on them; therefore, US and the west have no justification in trying to stop Russia from razing Ukraine to the ground.

They argue how Western media has skewed reportage, over the years, to present Russia in bad light unrepresentative of the true reality of things.

But do these things justify Russia’s attitude?

Why do people choose to side with evil? Or are they by implication telling us they are evil and would behave like Putin if they were in his position?

If anything, let us consider the facts of the cases of US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and even Libya.

Osama Bin Laden hijacked a US bound commercial airplane and crashed it at the New York Twin Towers which led to a lot human and material damage. When he was done, he fled to Afghanistan and was receiving shield from the govt of the day. What did you expect US to do? Fold her arms and watch Afghanistan become terrorist haven where insurgents will call home? If US had left Afghanistan without consequences, other fundamentalist Arab countries would toed same path and start allowing their territories to serve as breeding ground for Islamic Fundamentalists and terrorists.

Same with Iraq and Libya. Saddam Hussein and Mummar Gadaffi were two known Islamic fundamentalists. Sponsoring Islamic insurgents and allowing their territories to be used as training field for these terrorists.

Now, how do these things compare to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?

Is Ukraine harbouring any individual that committed a crime against either the govt of Russia or the Russian people?

What Putin is doing is bullying, it’s wrong, unprovoked and unjustified. Therefore anybody supporting Putin’s actions is evil and should be segregated from people and a psychological check run on such person to determine the level of mental damage.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

If I was Putin , I would have done the same. Ukraine and Russia had an agreement not to join European union (NATO) Ukrainian president decided to go against that agreement thinking nothing will happen. Putin is now telling him Russia won't allow it enemies close to their borders.

Rugaria:
Isolation is temporal... Once he's done in Ukraine and contacts are made with the West, you will see the sanctions go one after the other.. Meanwhile the objectives have been achieved..

Unfortunately he won’t win.

As things stand today, it seems Putin’s defeat will come from home. Because there’s limit to what Russian citizens are willing to tolerate just because of Putin’s foolishness.

MasterCard and Visa have disconnected services from Russia.

Soon, Russia might be disconnected from SWIFT.

FIFA and UEFA have suspended the Russian national team and Russian clubs from all football activities.

These are things that the people will directly feel its brunt. And you think they will continue to tolerate Putin?

Or Putin has enough troop to quell uprising at home and also send to Ukraine? Not to talk of when NATO forces eventually joins the fight.

Accept it, Rugaria, that Putin miscalculated and will never win.

IamPlato:
. You are a stupid idiot... I just dey see your comments every where, why not take time to learn the real matter, do research before talking like toddler...

If you know the real problem you will hate Ukraine and their president... But being say na idiot toddler brain you get plus you are a dumb Nigerian you decided to jump into matter wey no concern you and matter you are completely ignorant about, just bcause you won show say you Sabi talk.


People like you dey bear false witness again people and people like you get killed for talking about what they don't understand...


Go and research wht ukarine is doing to the minority Russian speakers, your internet and CNN will not tell you that one... go nd learn the whole matter before opening mouth like dog


Better use your brain before you kill yourself because of talk talk...



Sorry for all the insults but na fool you still be

If CNN and internet are not telling these things then how did you know?? Do you have visa to Ukraine or Russia? Are you a resident in these two nations? Or one of them, are you a Ukrainian or Russian? Or you are in their government? Please enlighten me, wish to know what the internet is hiding from us...

Den... tell me what you know about nigeria,the main historical story, the in toto, since you are a Nigerian, u should also know your country more than you know other countries....

Do not underestimate the power of foolish people in a large gathering

dasparrow:
Frankly speaking, both Russia and Ukraine are extremely racist countries so I don't stand with any of them. We Africans are supposed to focus on solving our internal problems and fixing our countries that are gradually going up in flames. You spend so much energy talking about Ukraine and Russia when in actuality, Fulani terrorists have killed more Nigerians than the entire people killed in the Russia - Ukraine war so far. Yet, it does not concern you because in your colonized mind, you only care about a group of people in far away europe who are treating our people like shit and won't allow our people evacuate from war torn Ukraine.

Thank you brother.... see the way they carry other countries on their heads

You insult Buhari when he goes on a peace keeping mission in other countries....

Your house is burning, but you left yours to quench your neighbor's house not even ur neighbor, another state sef... u leave your own street to another state's street to know their way of life... isn't these hypocrisy

Iykmann:
If I was Putin , I would have done the same. Ukraine and Russia had an agreement not to join European union (NATO) Ukrainian president decided to go against that agreement thinking nothing will happen. Putin is now telling him Russia won't allow it enemies close to their borders.

Tell me where and when was the agreement signed

Penguin2:
I do not intend to bore you with long epistle. So, this is gonna be concise and straight to the point.

On February 24th, 2022, Russia made good her threat and invaded sovereign Ukraine and has continued to bombard the lowly country since then.

From the build up of the crisis till now that the crisis has started, Russia has clearly been the aggressor with Ukraine’s only crime being her intention to join bodies and allies that can ensure her security and self preservation.

But I’m appalled that some people on Nairaland are standing with Russia.

They conjure all sorts of conjectures to justify their wicked, irrational, narcissistic and sadistic stance.

First, they say US and her Western allies have been invading other countries with no one forming a global police on them; therefore, US and the west have no justification in trying to stop Russia from razing Ukraine to the ground.

They argue how Western media has skewed reportage, over the years, to present Russia in bad light unrepresentative of the true reality of things.

But do these things justify Russia’s attitude?

Why do people choose to side with evil? Or are they by implication telling us they are evil and would behave like Putin if they were in his position?

If anything, let us consider the facts of the cases of US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and even Libya.

Osama Bin Laden hijacked a US bound commercial airplane and crashed it at the New York Twin Towers which led to a lot human and material damage. When he was done, he fled to Afghanistan and was receiving shield from the govt of the day. What did you expect US to do? Fold her arms and watch Afghanistan become terrorist haven where insurgents will call home? If US had left Afghanistan without consequences, other fundamentalist Arab countries would toed same path and start allowing their territories to serve as breeding ground for Islamic Fundamentalists and terrorists.

Same with Iraq and Libya. Saddam Hussein and Mummar Gadaffi were two known Islamic fundamentalists. Sponsoring Islamic insurgents and allowing their territories to be used as training field for these terrorists.

Now, how do these things compare to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?

Is Ukraine harbouring any individual that committed a crime against either the govt of Russia or the Russian people?

What Putin is doing is bullying, it’s wrong, unprovoked and unjustified. Therefore anybody supporting Putin’s actions is evil and should be segregated from people and a psychological check run on such person to determine the level of mental damage.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

You are very stupid for that statement that you made. Can you substantiate that fact? Even American soldiers who executed the mission of Saddam Hussein assassination has since realise their error and are sorry for the event. The only known crime of Hussein was when he attempted to annex Kuwait.

Gaddafi was a terrorist or that he trained terrorist? This is the first time I'm hearing of this bullshit, but I'm not surprised about such nonsense. Are you really sure you are a Nigerian? Because any Nigerian against Gaddafi is a fool. Can you please mention the name of the terrorist group Gaddafi was known to support? Meanwhile as at when Gaddafi was alive and as at now when was terrorism bolder?

You also foolishly mentioned the fact that Afghanistan would have been a terrorist haven if it wasn't invaded. So please educate us, what is Afghanistan today? I hope you know the entire Taliban cabinet are made up of international wanted terrorist members. Even the US today knows that they erred in invading Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. You trying to justify it is foolishness.

What Russia is doing is not fair but the Ukrainian President is not a man of peace IMO otherwise the war wouldn't have occurred.

IamPlato:
. You are a stupid idiot... I just dey see your comments every where, why not take time to learn the real matter, do research before talking like toddler...

If you know the real problem you will hate Ukraine and their president... But being say na idiot toddler brain you get plus you are a dumb Nigerian you decided to jump into matter wey no concern you and matter you are completely ignorant about, just bcause you won show say you Sabi talk.


People like you dey bear false witness again people and people like you get killed for talking about what they don't understand...


Go and research wht ukarine is doing to the minority Russian speakers, your internet and CNN will not tell you that one... go nd learn the whole matter before opening mouth like dog


Better use your brain before you kill yourself because of talk talk...



Sorry for all the insults but na fool you still be

Na woman u dey quote bros...she wan popular for nairaland.

BKayy:
There is only a little lies and propaganda can get someone. Because of the ignorance in Nigeria and Sub Saharan Africa, many don't know that the results of the space wars shows superiority in Rocket science. The results favour Russia which shows that their weapons is superior, Kalashnikov is a living example of that superiority.

Currently, the country with the most sophisticated Armour in the world in Russia, an armour that can resist soft explosions and virtually all ranges of bullets from Assault Rifles. Although it is not yet widely distributed because of cost of production.

The problem is that the black man is a victim of Hollywood and Western media. The media show their enemies and those they are prejudiced against in a bad light. They used to show China as an ancient place until people especially Africans themselves started visiting China. The same is what they do with Russia, in almost all their movies the main antagonist is always a Russian or communist dictator. The effects is that it has subconsciously programmed the mind of a black man to automatically see anything from Russia and communism as evil. Just look at the dude called FERNANDEZISBACK

We have no history with Russia. Of all the countries that participated in Berlin Conference, Russia was the only one that refused to exploit blacks by colonising them because according to them "they have more than enough resources and man power"

Why the blacks are hating on Russia is what I don't understand.

Your exposure is apt....western puppets hope una dey learn..IDI*Ts....

BKayy:
I can't be part of a nation with Neo-Nazi militant group that kills unarmed Civilians like Azov of Ukraine.
I can never be part of a nation that seeks the anhilation of a related ethnicity for the benefit of USA.

So you see my dear ignoramus. You have no idea of what you are supporting. What is happening to you is the predisposition of you as a former underling of the west to support their campaign without thorough research.

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