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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by BKayy: 12:58pm On Mar 01, 2022
sotall:
Yes

I am really shocked!

But then i remember reading an online publication last year about Russia recruiting online image promoters to promote the image of Russia in Africa cyberspace
Did you read any of the comments above?

Please tell me why you defend the interest of the West that shared your land and resources like Okrika in Berlin conference over the one that refused to take any despite being invited to take a share in that conference?

The worst kind of slavery is mental slavery

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by StaffofOrayan(m): 1:02pm On Mar 01, 2022
USA, NATO, China and God knows how many more countries have military bases in Africa,
We are Western puppets, we need to SHUT UP AND BE HUMBLE
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by sotall(m): 1:03pm On Mar 01, 2022
BKayy:

Did you read any of the comments above?

Please tell me why you defend the interest of the West that shared your land and resources like Okrika in Berlin conference over the one that refused to take any despite being invited to take a share in that conference?

The worst kind of slavery is mental slavery

If you have any hatred for the West for the crimes they committed in the past, does that mean you should support Russia for the killing of innocent citizens of Ukraine?

And why do Pro-Russian debaters always think those of us against this Russian invasion support what the west did in the past?
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by BKayy: 1:07pm On Mar 01, 2022
sotall:


If you have any hatred for the West for the crimes they committed in the past, does that mean you should support Russia for the killing of innocent citizens of Ukraine?

And why do Pro-Russian debaters always think those of us against this Russian invasion support what the west did in the past?
This shows your lack of understanding in the conflict.
Russia is fighting today so that their children will not fight a handicapped war against the West tomorrow.

If the West have maintained their dominance over Africa without intruding into the Baltics, this would not have happened but their greed to drag the entire world into their domination is the cause.

BTW, Russia is not in Ukraine for the citizens but the West usurpers of democratically elected former Ukraine president and their Ethnic cleansing militia called Azov (a militia that targets ethnic Russians in Ukraine). The campaign looks easy because alot of Ukrainians that still have their senses are sympathetic to Russia

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by sotall(m): 1:13pm On Mar 01, 2022
BKayy:

This shows your lack of understanding in the conflict.
Russia is fighting today so that their children will not fight a handicapped war against the West tomorrow.

If the West have maintained their dominance over Africa without intruding into the Baltics, this would not have happened but their greed to drag the entire world into their domination is the cause.

BTW, Russia is not in Ukraine for the citizens but the West usurpers of democratically elected former Ukraine president and their Ethnic cleansing militia called Azov (a militia that targets ethnic Russians in Ukraine). The campaign looks easy because alot of Ukrainians that still have their senses are sympathetic to Russia

So according to you, Russia is killing innocent Ukrainians today because they want to preserve their future children.

See your reasoning na. Does this make sense?
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by MissBKsouI(f): 2:07pm On Mar 01, 2022
IamPlato:
. You are a stupid idiot... I just dey see your comments every where, why not take time to learn the real matter, do research before talking like toddler...

If you know the real problem you will hate Ukraine and their president... But being say na idiot toddler brain you get plus you are a dumb Nigerian you decided to jump into matter wey no concern you and matter you are completely ignorant about, just bcause you won show say you Sabi talk.


People like you dey bear false witness again people and people like you get killed for talking about what they don't understand...


Go and research wht ukarine is doing to the minority Russian speakers, your internet and CNN will not tell you that one... go nd learn the whole matter before opening mouth like dog


Better use your brain before you kill yourself because of talk talk...



Sorry for all the insults but na fool you still be smiley
na attention seeker bro
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by Penguin2: 2:45pm On Mar 01, 2022
IamPlato:
. You should have done research right so you won't be here posting rubbish... Now you want me to post the truth for you...

Nigga if this was in reality you and stupid bitch probably would have lost your life for speaking about what you know nothing about... Be wise this new month

Aren’t you pathetic like this?
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by Nobody: 2:48pm On Mar 01, 2022
Penguin2:
I do not intend to bore you with long epistle. So, this is gonna be concise and straight to the point.

On February 24th, 2022, Russia made good her threat and invaded sovereign Ukraine and has continued to bombard the lowly country since then.

From the build up of the crisis till now that the crisis has started, Russia has clearly been the aggressor with Ukraine’s only crime being her intention to join bodies and allies that can ensure her security and self preservation.

But I’m appalled that some people on Nairaland are standing with Russia.

They conjure all sorts of conjectures to justify their wicked, irrational, narcissistic and sadistic stance.

First, they say US and her Western allies have been invading other countries with no one forming a global police on them; therefore, US and the west have no justification in trying to stop Russia from razing Ukraine to the ground.

They argue how Western media has skewed reportage, over the years, to present Russia in bad light unrepresentative of the true reality of things.

But do these things justify Russia’s attitude?

Why do people choose to side with evil? Or are they by implication telling us they are evil and would behave like Putin if they were in his position?

If anything, let us consider the facts of the cases of US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and even Libya.

Osama Bin Laden hijacked a US bound commercial airplane and crashed it at the New York Twin Towers which led to a lot human and material damage. When he was done, he fled to Afghanistan and was receiving shield from the govt of the day. What did you expect US to do? Fold her arms and watch Afghanistan become terrorist haven where insurgents will call home? If US had left Afghanistan without consequences, other fundamentalist Arab countries would toed same path and start allowing their territories to serve as breeding ground for Islamic Fundamentalists and terrorists.

Same with Iraq and Libya. Saddam Hussein and Mummar Gadaffi were two known Islamic fundamentalists. Sponsoring Islamic insurgents and allowing their territories to be used as training field for these terrorists.

Now, how do these things compare to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?

Is Ukraine harbouring any individual that committed a crime against either the govt of Russia or the Russian people?

What Putin is doing is bullying, it’s wrong, unprovoked and unjustified. Therefore anybody supporting Putin’s actions is evil and should be segregated from people and a psychological check run on such person to determine the level of mental damage.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

You know Osama was an agent and 911 was a false flag operation?
You also know Osama was from Saudi Arabia and most of the bombers held Saudi passports.

How then did Iraq get in the equation? We all now know the WMD story was a lie.
Afghanistan is today in the arms of the taliban.
Do you know what happened when Russia setup a base in Cuba?
War is evil. All that needs to be done is just a conference call between Biden, Zelenskiy and Putin, but vested interests will not allow that

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by Nobody: 2:48pm On Mar 01, 2022
I condemned the US invasions the same way i am condemning Russians invasion of Ukraine. There is no whataboutism. Evil is evil and should not be enabled.
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:50pm On Mar 01, 2022
BKayy:

That's why I say it the way it is. Black Africans are slaves to West no doubt.

Can any of them that are Pro-West explain to me why they support the West that pillaged and is still pillaging their resources over Russia that was in the same Berlin Conference where Africa was shared like Mangala Fish or Okirika but refused to take any because they consider themselves (Russia) self sufficient?

If it is not the theory of a slave defending her master subconsciously, what else could explain it.

Do we have any history with Russia? NO
Did they partake in exploiting the Resources of Africa? No
Why are we defending the people that are guilty of the two?
Why?

Now you can see the western media and their children are saying that Russia paid us to say this things which actually is the truth.
They are saying they pay us to
propel Russia image in Africa lol

There is nothing this clowns won't say online just to damage those who think beyond the box.

No amount of money can any body give me to say lies that what the western media and their African children won't understand.

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by doffman: 2:51pm On Mar 01, 2022
IamPlato:
. You are a stupid idiot... I just dey see your comments every where, why not take time to learn the real matter, do research before talking like toddler...

If you know the real problem you will hate Ukraine and their president... But being say na idiot toddler brain you get plus you are a dumb Nigerian you decided to jump into matter wey no concern you and matter you are completely ignorant about, just bcause you won show say you Sabi talk.


People like you dey bear false witness again people and people like you get killed for talking about what they don't understand...


Go and research wht ukarine is doing to the minority Russian speakers, your internet and CNN will not tell you that one... go nd learn the whole matter before opening mouth like dog


Better use your brain before you kill yourself because of talk talk...



Sorry for all the insults but na fool you still be smiley

Just don't waste your in replying that guy.

It is glaring , he did not know the real reason behind Russia invading Ukraine .

With time , people will realize how evil are western people .

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by AoifeNightfall: 2:52pm On Mar 01, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
Thanks for explaining to those Putin puppets.. It's so tiring repeating the same thing over and over again.. but they never agree..
What you do is leave them to wallow in their ignorance..
Gadaffi they keep supporting is a bloody terrorist..

Lol but I've never seen you provide a concise explanation like this one.
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by doffman: 2:52pm On Mar 01, 2022
IamPlato:
. You don't need to reply me na abi you no get sense?


Read what I said and reason your life, know the right thing before opening mouth to shame your family...


Don't reply me abeg... Just think and learn first abeg.

Free the guy pls
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:53pm On Mar 01, 2022
doffman:


Just don't waste your in replying that guy.

It is glaring , he did not know the real reason behind Russia invading Ukraine .

With time , people will realize how evil are western people .

The truth is that they will probably be dead before they realize it.
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by doffman: 2:54pm On Mar 01, 2022
Investigative:
Western puppet on loose
Russia and Ukraine should solve their problems

The real evil here is that Ukrainian president . He fail to understand that Russia is his brother nation . He makes western countries his friend instead of his real brother Putin

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by Rugaria: 2:55pm On Mar 01, 2022
Penguin2:
I do not intend to bore you with long epistle. So, this is gonna be concise and straight to the point.

On February 24th, 2022, Russia made good her threat and invaded sovereign Ukraine and has continued to bombard the lowly country since then.

From the build up of the crisis till now that the crisis has started, Russia has clearly been the aggressor with Ukraine’s only crime being her intention to join bodies and allies that can ensure her security and self preservation.

But I’m appalled that some people on Nairaland are standing with Russia.

They conjure all sorts of conjectures to justify their wicked, irrational, narcissistic and sadistic stance.

First, they say US and her Western allies have been invading other countries with no one forming a global police on them; therefore, US and the west have no justification in trying to stop Russia from razing Ukraine to the ground.

They argue how Western media has skewed reportage, over the years, to present Russia in bad light unrepresentative of the true reality of things.

But do these things justify Russia’s attitude?

Why do people choose to side with evil? Or are they by implication telling us they are evil and would behave like Putin if they were in his position?

If anything, let us consider the facts of the cases of US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and even Libya.

Osama Bin Laden hijacked a US bound commercial airplane and crashed it at the New York Twin Towers which led to a lot human and material damage. When he was done, he fled to Afghanistan and was receiving shield from the govt of the day. What did you expect US to do? Fold her arms and watch Afghanistan become terrorist haven where insurgents will call home? If US had left Afghanistan without consequences, other fundamentalist Arab countries would toed same path and start allowing their territories to serve as breeding ground for Islamic Fundamentalists and terrorists.

Same with Iraq and Libya. Saddam Hussein and Mummar Gadaffi were two known Islamic fundamentalists. Sponsoring Islamic insurgents and allowing their territories to be used as training field for these terrorists.

Now, how do these things compare to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?

Is Ukraine harbouring any individual that committed a crime against either the govt of Russia or the Russian people?

What Putin is doing is bullying, it’s wrong, unprovoked and unjustified. Therefore anybody supporting Putin’s actions is evil and should be segregated from people and a psychological check run on such person to determine the level of mental damage.

Penguin is a bird of reason!


Penguin the bird of reasoning just disappointed a huge fan by forgetting his thinking cap at home today..
It is called foreign policy/relations for a reason. What's going on is nothing but "The game nations play"..
There is actually a book with that title. I will recommend it to you.
Foreign policy is not a place to sprout all sorts of emotional vituperations. It's based on interests. When your interests are being undermined, you need to act. Russia is undermining Americas interest by questioning the relevance of the dollar and America is undermining Russia by using Ukraine.

Putin knows and is taking actions to squash this. If he listens to you, Russia will be as useless and irrelevant in world affairs like your Nigeria in ten years time. The West knows what they are doing. Russia knows what she's doing. You're the one alligning to some quarters based on emotions and not based on interests. Always follow your interests on foreign policies and international relations. You think the Americans and the West were not aware of the Biafran genocide? Yet they supported the Nigerians! Why? Oil and regional control promised by the Nigerian government while Ojukwu was acting tough...
God doesn't fight wars! Humans do.... Interests.. Always..

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by AoifeNightfall: 3:09pm On Mar 01, 2022
sotall:


If you have any hatred for the West for the crimes they committed in the past, does that mean you should support Russia for the killing of innocent citizens of Ukraine?

And why do Pro-Russian debaters always think those of us against this Russian invasion support what the west did in the past?

In the past indeed. Remember we are still suffering the effects decades after.

If we "forgive" the west that will not be considered forgiveness. That is stupidity and ignorance. Besides that's not how the world works they don't care about you or your "forgiveness". If it did, the west would not have exploited Africa in the first place.

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 3:11pm On Mar 01, 2022
AoifeNightfall:


[s]Lol but I've never seen you provide a concise explanation like this one[/s].
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by sotall(m): 3:16pm On Mar 01, 2022
AoifeNightfall:


In the past indeed. Remember we are still suffering the effects decades after.

If we "forgive" the west that will not be considered forgiveness. That is stupidity and ignorance. Besides that's not how the world works they don't care about you or your "forgiveness". If it did, the west would not have exploited Africa in the first place.

Answer the goddamn question...Does that make it right for the innocent children in Ukraine to die?

Does that make it right for innocent citizens of Ukraine to die helplessly?

Because America also did bad things?
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by AoifeNightfall: 3:17pm On Mar 01, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:


grin

For people to really see your point, you need to elaborate.

Instead of repeating one thing everywhere, else you'll start sounding like a broken record or a troll when you're not trolling.


Mokop?

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by olisaEze(m): 3:20pm On Mar 01, 2022
Not at all, everyone is entitled to their opinions no matter how irrational it might sound to you.
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by AoifeNightfall: 3:20pm On Mar 01, 2022
sotall:


Answer the goddamn question...Does that make it right for the innocent children in Ukraine to die?

Does that make it right for innocent citizens of Ukraine to die helplessly?

Because America also did bad things?


"All is fair in love and war"

used to describe a situation in which people do not follow the usual rules of behavior and do things that are normally considered unfair.



It's not fair but it's war.

There's nothing anyone can do to change Putin's mind. I'm sorry.
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by BKayy: 3:23pm On Mar 01, 2022
sotall:


So according to you, Russia is killing innocent Ukrainians today because they want to preserve their future children.

See your reasoning na. Does this make sense?
If Russia was killing Ukrainians you won't need CNN to tell you.
The only group with militia targeting a particular ethnic group is Ukraine.

As for the simple thing you failed to understand, Russia invasion of Ukraine is halt to NATO expansion into their backyard. An expansion that in few years will make them to be at the mercy of NATO/USA missiles. So they are fighting today so that their children won't be at the mercy of USA tomorrow

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by sotall(m): 3:26pm On Mar 01, 2022
BKayy:

If Russia was killing Ukrainians you won't need CNN to tell you.
The only group with militia targeting a particular ethnic group is Ukraine.

As for the simple thing you failed to understand, Russia invasion of Ukraine is halt NATO expansion into their backyard. An expansion that in few years will make them to be at the mercy of NATO/USA missiles. So they are fighting today so that their children won't be at the mercy of USA tomorrow

If you were Ukrainian and another country invaded your country firing rockets and killed your friends and family members, will you say they did the right thing?

Somehow it seems Pro-Russia voices on nairaland have a section of their brain not working.
Thats just the way it seem
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 3:27pm On Mar 01, 2022
AoifeNightfall:


grin

For people to really see your point, you need to elaborate.

Instead of repeating one thing everywhere, else you'll start sounding like a broken record or a troll when you're not trolling.


Mokop?


Do I have a business with you? undecided
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by sotall(m): 3:30pm On Mar 01, 2022
AoifeNightfall:


"All is fair in love and war"





It's not fair but it's war.

There's nothing anyone can do to change Putin's mind. I'm sorry.

Which war?

A war of bullying and agression where the bully is invading the oppressed and the only thing the oppressed can do is defend and run and beg for help?


As for your last quote, Putin can continue to massage his ego and pride but at the end, its gonna end really bad for him.

He will be held accountable for all the aggression, deaths and destruction he has caused.
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by YellowMayor(m): 3:41pm On Mar 01, 2022
Kabongo1:


You know Osama was an agent and 911 was a false flag operation?
You also know Osama was from Saudi Arabia and most of the bombers held Saudi passports.

How then did Iraq get in the equation? We all now know the WMD story was a lie.
Afghanistan is today in the arms of the taliban.

Do you know what happened when Russia setup a base in Cuba?

War is evil. All that needs to be done is just a conference call between Biden, Zelenskiy and Putin, but vested interests will not allow that



I'd appreciate it if you can tell us what happened. For nothing but educational purposes only
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by BKayy: 3:45pm On Mar 01, 2022
sotall:


If you were Ukrainian and another country invaded your country firing rockets and killed your friends and family members, will you say they did the right thing?

Somehow it seems Pro-Russia voices on nairaland have a section of their not working.
Thats just the way it seem
I can't be part of a nation with Neo-Nazi militant group that kills unarmed Civilians like Azov of Ukraine.
I can never be part of a nation that seeks the anhilation of a related ethnicity for the benefit of USA.

So you see my dear ignoramus. You have no idea of what you are supporting. What is happening to you is the predisposition of you as a former underling of the west to support their campaign without thorough research.

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by sotall(m): 3:49pm On Mar 01, 2022
BKayy:

I can't be part of a nation with Neo-Nazi militant group that kills unarmed Civilians like Azov of Ukraine.
I can never be part of a nation that seeks the anhilation of a related ethnicity for the benefit of USA.

So you see my dear ignoramus. You have no idea of what you are supporting. What is happening to you is the predisposition of you as a former underling of the west to support their campaign without thorough research.

You are the ignoramus who thinks it is right for Putin to wade into an internal conflict in Ukraine just because he thinks they are pro-Russian.

I blame Ukraine for agreeing to and giving up their nuclear weapons. Now i wouldn't be here trying to educate your dull brain that it is wrong to invade a sovereign country just because of your insecurity.
Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by BKayy: 3:55pm On Mar 01, 2022
sotall:


You are the ignoramus who thinks it is right for Putin to wade into an internal conflict in Ukraine just because he thinks they are pro-Russian.

I blame Ukraine for agreeing to and giving up their nuclear weapons. Now i wouldn't be here trying to educate your dull brain that it is wrong to invade a sovereign country just because of your insecurity.
What a simple way to agree that you know nothing.

You thought you could play the emotional and sovereign bullshit card but you never knew that you are engaging someone that knows a little about the conflict. Now you are bringing internal conflict.

Ok in that internal conflict, you believe and campaign for Russia to remain neutral when Ethnic Russians are singled out, hunted and killed by Ukraine Government sponsored Azov militia?

My dear you are a genocide ambassador.

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Re: Are You Not Appalled That Some People Are ‘Standing With Russia’? by Ofodirinwa: 3:57pm On Mar 01, 2022
Penguin2:
I do not intend to bore you with long epistle. So, this is gonna be concise and straight to the point.

On February 24th, 2022, Russia made good her threat and invaded sovereign Ukraine and has continued to bombard the lowly country since then.

From the build up of the crisis till now that the crisis has started, Russia has clearly been the aggressor with Ukraine’s only crime being her intention to join bodies and allies that can ensure her security and self preservation.

But I’m appalled that some people on Nairaland are standing with Russia.

They conjure all sorts of conjectures to justify their wicked, irrational, narcissistic and sadistic stance.

First, they say US and her Western allies have been invading other countries with no one forming a global police on them; therefore, US and the west have no justification in trying to stop Russia from razing Ukraine to the ground.

They argue how Western media has skewed reportage, over the years, to present Russia in bad light unrepresentative of the true reality of things.

But do these things justify Russia’s attitude?

Why do people choose to side with evil? Or are they by implication telling us they are evil and would behave like Putin if they were in his position?

If anything, let us consider the facts of the cases of US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and even Libya.

Osama Bin Laden hijacked a US bound commercial airplane and crashed it at the New York Twin Towers which led to a lot human and material damage. When he was done, he fled to Afghanistan and was receiving shield from the govt of the day. What did you expect US to do? Fold her arms and watch Afghanistan become terrorist haven where insurgents will call home? If US had left Afghanistan without consequences, other fundamentalist Arab countries would toed same path and start allowing their territories to serve as breeding ground for Islamic Fundamentalists and terrorists.

Same with Iraq and Libya. Saddam Hussein and Mummar Gadaffi were two known Islamic fundamentalists. Sponsoring Islamic insurgents and allowing their territories to be used as training field for these terrorists.

Now, how do these things compare to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?

Is Ukraine harbouring any individual that committed a crime against either the govt of Russia or the Russian people?

What Putin is doing is bullying, it’s wrong, unprovoked and unjustified. Therefore anybody supporting Putin’s actions is evil and should be segregated from people and a psychological check run on such person to determine the level of mental damage.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

nna turn off CNN and go live your life.

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