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Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Invitationn: 8:53pm On Mar 01, 2022
BritishNaija:


Please Why don't you want to learn? Do you expect US or any Country to fly into Ukraine Airspace if not warjets? Kiev Airspace is contested and any flight that is not Ukrainian fighterjets or Russian fighterjet is exposing itself to crossfire of being shutdown, Now I hope you can comprehend that.
We know your type. The Alagidis grin
The article clearly stated that the Kyiv air corridors are closed by Russia anti-aircraft weapons, but reading is hard for you, we always have to spell it out.
Your problem is not even comprehension; it's READING undecided
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 8:54pm On Mar 01, 2022
Mig 29 and Su 27 you say

Hmmm

Good for them

So with all the great aircraft France has and with all their western re-orientation and with all the joint Nato drills and with all the boasting of joining Nato neither Nato nor Ukraine saw it fit to had trained pilots to fly western planes and replace their outdated Soviet Era fighter jets
Since 2014 to now
That's 8 years

Does Nato really have Ukraine best interest at heart undecided

olugabbie:


The Ukrainian pilot will not be able to fly the Western fighter jets. They can only fly soviet era fighter jets like Mig-29 & SU-27.

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Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 8:55pm On Mar 01, 2022
To stop this crisis is in the hands of Zelensky

sandra50:
Then pull your Putin out of Ukraine so that they can stop the supplies or you mean they should fold their hands and watch while being killed?
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 8:57pm On Mar 01, 2022
China and North Korea do not pose any security threat to Russia

Nato does

EU should look at de escalating by negotiating, and that's what Macron is trying to do but those European war mongers want to see Russia gobble up Ukraine

GreatrAnalyst:


Not saying that EU is doing the best or not, but what do you think that EU should have done better? Continue to look as a superior nation squeezes to death a neighboring country?

Two wrongs don't make a right, however Russia started in the wrong first for invading a sovereign state to squash her because she feels she's superior in every sense. I'm sure Russia won't try that with China or even North Korea.

What should concerned countries have done including EU, because supports have been coming not only from EU?
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:01pm On Mar 01, 2022
Is not only Rubicorn
It's Hannibal at the gates

After crossing the Rubicon let them cross the alps but they should cross into Ukraine and let's see

ivolt:

Your crying just begin.
The EU has almost crossed the rubicon, when it does.
There would be no dragging of feet.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Nobody: 9:01pm On Mar 01, 2022
Guyman02:

Ukraine jets are not flying, Russia controls the airfield in Kiev

Please stop arguing and Russia have not taken controls of Kiev airfield, UkrainianJet fighters blown up russian convoy today.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:03pm On Mar 01, 2022
They are all warmongers and they will be put to shame

Great0ne1:

Is quite unbelievable. They are slowly tiptoeing into a potential nuclear war. We have idiots leading European countries. Is it really worth it, going to a nuclear war with a country like Russia, just because Ukraine refused to pledge neutrality ? Most university undergraduates would have managed this crises better than those power drunk fools, particularly US and UK
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:05pm On Mar 01, 2022
Tell those Nato countries to cross into Ukraine if they have balls

Shouldn't be so hard btw Latvia is very close and closer still is Poland they could cross the border with excuse of trying to bring about peace in their borders

Let's see what happens then.

I know Russia have its eyes on Latvia and Estonia

KingOKON:
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Tell that lunatic called Putin to bomb any NATO country if he gots balls
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:07pm On Mar 01, 2022
If Ukraine was so sure of its air dominance they would be sorties and taking out a massively compacted 40mile long column of Russian military hardware advancing on Ukraine

pacespot:


So you know more than USA intelligence which says just now that Ukraine still controls its airspace. If it is true how you painted the war, then what is stopping Russia from taking over the whole country? Because he who controls the air also controls the land combat in a modern warfare.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:08pm On Mar 01, 2022
I have no reply for you

CoronaVirusPro:


And Ukraine used Fulcrum to down (2) SU-35

Easy pick indeed



Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Nobody: 9:08pm On Mar 01, 2022
Invitationn:

We know your type. The Aundecided

You can take you propaganda else where, I'm very well updated.

If russian succeeded in taking over Kiev airspace, surely I will let you know

Now you read https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/ukraines-skies-remain-contested-says-us-defense-official-2022-2%3famp
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:09pm On Mar 01, 2022
Sorry but I see it as obsolete

France has better airplanes if they are interested in helping Ukraine
And capable pilots too grin

Preator:



MIG-29 is not obsolete. I doubt it will amount to much though other than a few days of nuisance. I wonder how the IFF on those will work since they are Russian made and will face Russian missiles.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by InoGetJoy: 9:10pm On Mar 01, 2022
BritishNaija:

Before you comment, make sure you know what the arguement is all about.
Did anyone tell you that there is commercial flight in ukraine? Or do you think flightradar24 keeps track of milatery jets in wars?

Always make sure you know how flight24 work before before you use it As reference.
I used the image to show that there's a no-fly zone over Ukraine, not about military flights. There are other flight trackign websites that allow tracking aircraft based on type such as military transport planes like the Hercules.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:12pm On Mar 01, 2022
I said 300+ tanks and other vehicles

It may be Armored reconnaissance vehicles, Armored personnel carriers, light tanks and many more...everything that ranged from tactical to transport to armor

Kelvin3476:
Lier... Ukraine doesn't have up to 300+ tanks
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:13pm On Mar 01, 2022
True they don't want this war to happen

Not just because of good trade with Russia but also they've always played major roles in ushering peace into Europe since post world War 2

justli:


I love Hungary. They have no business with western imperialism.

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Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:15pm On Mar 01, 2022
You know more so you could tell us

Am always open to learning

Thomist:


So were you expecting them to call you for the pick up? So you are now wiser and strategic than EU? Why talking what you don't even know anything of?
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by idahme(m): 9:15pm On Mar 01, 2022
Svlla:
Those anti tanks should have been used today on that massive 40mile long column of Russian hardware advancing towards Kiev

If truly they received those Javelins from Estonia and Latvia

I saw in a Russian website on Sunday that the shipment was intercepted by Russian military


No better time than this period for those javelin to be on practice. Unfortunately, Ukrainian state should have been armed during the intelligence briefing of potential invasion.

Due to complications in logistics , it will take a great deal of work before field commanders could receive supplies from donnors.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:18pm On Mar 01, 2022
Pls tell me which country supplied the javelin grin grin

BritishNaija:

I can not comprehend What you are trying to explain above, but I want to comment on the bold, Brother if you do not know the countries that supplied Ukraine JAVALIN, that means yoy have been left behind about the happenings.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Nobody: 9:19pm On Mar 01, 2022
Svlla:
Pls tell me which country supplied the javelin grin grin


JAVALIN US, NLAW UK. grin
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by CoronaVirusPro: 9:21pm On Mar 01, 2022
Svlla:
I have no reply for you


You won’t have.

I was sure!
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:21pm On Mar 01, 2022
Manufacturers Yes

Who packaged and send them to Ukraine grin grin


BritishNaija:


JAVALIN US, NLAW UK. grin
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by GreatrAnalyst: 9:39pm On Mar 01, 2022
Svlla:
China and North Korea do not pose any security threat to Russia

Nato does

EU should look at de escalating by negotiating, and that's what Macron is trying to do but those European war mongers want to see Russia gobble up Ukraine


Well, perspectives are meant to differ.
But mark it, even if China or any country with mad leader like Kim of North Korea, with nukes in their arsenal pose a threat to Russia, Putin will think twice before invading them. Whatever he is doing to Ukraine now, it stems out of the fact that Ukraine is never a match in everything for Russia, yet, days later, they can't still totally subdue them.

Ukraine has never been part of EU, until now that her application to be part of EU is being filed, why would EU negotiate on the part of Ukraine. All the supports with ammunition has been by individual's countries and it is more like an indirect message to Putin that he goofed with his moves. Look at FIFA and co sanctions, I am sure FIFA is non-native of just Europe, they are passing a message to Putin.
More or less like saying NATO should help the two negotiate.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Truvelisback(m): 9:40pm On Mar 01, 2022
Etinosa1234:


Ojukwu knew that they had lost a lot of men and territory so he had to escape..

Plus he didn't have the backing of most countries

Can u say such for Ukraine?
Lol, he ran away and left his men because he could with stand the war any longer and his Surrendered. Them use hunger weapon them take humble Biafra.
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 9:45pm On Mar 01, 2022
All these organizations are western bankrolled

Fifa, Eufa and the likes

And Europe do not yet have consensus on arming Ukraine
Hungary is washing its hands off
France leadership is not united with Macron posturing you would know he doesn't want this war
Even Poland with their antagonistic stance toward Russia is backing down

Georgia and Turkey will not want to have anything to do with despite Tbilisi history with Russia

Yes perspective differs but also China and NK does pose any immediate security threat to Russia at least not on the scale Nato does

GreatrAnalyst:


Well, perspectives are meant to differ.
But mark it, even if China or any country with mad leader like Kim of North Korea, with nukes in their arsenal pose a threat to Russia, Putin will think twice before invading them. Whatever he is doing to Ukraine now, it stems out of the fact that Ukraine is never a match in everything for Russia, yet, days later, they can't still totally subdue them.

Ukraine has never been part of EU, until now that her application to be part of EU is being filed, why would EU negotiate on the part of Ukraine. All the supports with ammunition has been by individual's countries and it is more like an indirect message to Putin that he goofed with his moves. Look at FIFA and co sanctions, I am sure FIFA is non-native of just Europe, they are passing a message to Putin.
More or less like saying NATO should help the two negotiate.

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Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Nobody: 9:56pm On Mar 01, 2022
Svlla:
Manufacturers Yes

Who packaged and send them to Ukraine grin grin



US Sent shipments of JAVALIN and missiles this year, Same with Uk before the war, and more units arrived yesterday and today.

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Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Truvelisback(m): 9:58pm On Mar 01, 2022
Dgodfada:



Russia's leniency? E be like say na Iranian weed you dey smoke.
Na Russian weed u smoke. U read when the war never reach this stage?
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Etinosa1234: 10:02pm On Mar 01, 2022
Truvelisback:
Lol, he ran away and left his men because he could with stand the war any longer and his Surrendered. Them use hunger weapon them take humble Biafra.

Yeah that's right and it is completely different from the Ukrainian situation

Here, the Ukrainians actually have a lot of backing, strong will and weapons to fight...

Biafra never had the backing
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Blackdisciple(m): 10:09pm On Mar 01, 2022
Blackdisciple:


And also sell arms to Ukrainians to fight Russia

Selling arms issa business just like selling bread in stores....

I sell a loaf of bread to you I don't care what you do with it, if you like give it to the dogs or throw it away I don't know... I sell arms to you I didn't say go and kill your bro with it...

You see..! Very simple...
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Svlla: 10:21pm On Mar 01, 2022
BritishNaija:


[/b]US Sent shipments of JAVALIN and missiles this year Same with Uk before the war, and more units arrived yesterday and today.

That's the 300 that arrived last month before the invasion. Am talking about the ones sent from Estonia 3 days ago


Also the ones sent by the US has been seized by Russia on friday

They should stop sending arms if it is only going to end in Russia hands

Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Truvelisback(m): 10:21pm On Mar 01, 2022
Etinosa1234:


Yeah that's right and it is completely different from the Ukrainian situation

Here, the Ukrainians actually have a lot of backing, strong will and weapons to fight...

Biafra never had the backing
Do u think it's easy to fight the govt and win?
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by TrueNigerian300: 10:30pm On Mar 01, 2022
Emmyxclusive:
This war is not about Ukraine joining NATO, it's about putin's dream of reconquering lost empires. Another reason for this war is because Russia does not want a flourishing democracy around her, u know why? That may turn its people against her because if Ukraine's economy is booming, Russians may want to have that kind of life they by hating thier govt. Do u know Russia has taken down most independent radio and TV stations in her own country? That's cus the don't want the war reported. And u talked about surrendering to ten armed men with AK47, well some people will surrender but others would rather die. A col. Was killed in a state in the middle belt years ago wen he refused to surrender. He said he can't bow for lil kids of 18 years because they are with guns. To some its foolishness but to him it honor.

Keep repeating what you hear from western media. Putin approval rating in Russia is above 60% that is even from the so called western media ooooo. That is higher than any American president in recent time including Obama, Biden is currently between 30 and 40% yet western media tell you that he is unpopular.He has repeatedly said it himself that: "...I have already said that Russian accepted the new geopolitical reality after the dissolution of the USSR...". Truly, you can see that he is pained with the dissolution of USSR but he agreed that there is nothing that can be done to be bring it back but Russia just have to be strong. Define flourish democrazy? Oh once a country is against western style it is not a democracy really? Is Russia not a democrazy herself? Is Putin not elected with approval rating far better than any american president in recent time?? Ukraine has been at war for more than 8 years and you think if Russia want to conquer them in the last 8 years they wouldnt have??Who has told you that a country has to practice the kind of democracy in the UK to flourish?? Is China not a manucfacturing hub today despite the western condemnation of her style of leadership Can any country in the EU talk when China talk today economically??
RT has been blocked by Youtube, western countries are taking down Russian media and you expect them to look like idiot and not reciprocate, are you for real?

The NATO/west have not denied the caused of the problem they are just not ready to accept it. So because a colonel with a single life choose not to surrender, a foolish president must ruin over a thousand years of civilization with over 40 millions people?? smh.

Please Ukraine is currently taking volunteers across the globe can someone of you warmongers go join them and let's see how brave you are. He is giving guns to 17 years old to go fight one of the best trained army in the world and you call that bravery.

Someone of you should probably listen to the guy himself because the foolish western media keep painting him as the evil.You can watch that yourself to hear what he said and his concerns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qS6J-WbTD8
Re: Ukrainian Pilots Arrive In Poland To Pick Up Donated Fighter Jets by Smashspesh(m): 10:44pm On Mar 01, 2022
Great0ne1:

You might as well ask me to give you the history of old soviet union.
You admitted right here that the main cause of the war, is the recognition of donetsk and lugansk as republics respectively by Russia, just like America and nato did with kosovo. What does this have to do with Yanukovych government and the protests ? The question is, do they have the right to have there own country or not. Can they ask Russia for assistance against external aggression like zelensky and his western friends ? We have seen nato and america do this so many times, so they have no right to complain.

For the records, am not a pro Russian and do not always agree with everything they do. But i share there security concerns, given there history of sudden invasion by nazi Germany, which was facilitated by having a common border and i also understand the need to assist there Russian speaking people in donbass.

You did state that donbass was grabbed from ukraine. I am not aware of this and would like to know when and how this happened from you

Well, knowing the root of any cause is the only way to make a sound statement. I expected you to know this rather than swaying to the beat of the bandwagon.

Here's why I want you to apply logic:

The people of Luhansk and Donetsk never complained of being isolated or discrimated upon. Eastern-Ukrainian and the rest lived in harmony before Putin emerged the leader of Russia in 2012. And that's people that had existed for centuries. No war. No argument.

Check anywhere, there was never rioting nor discriminatory incitations between these people until 2012 and beyond.

Ukraine has been stomaching Russia's evils under Dmitry Medvedev and her predecessors but Vladimir Putin was more devilish.

The former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych was his pet boy. Putin tricked him into committing so much blunders against his people. For example, the changing of the Ukrainian article 111 of the constitution to enable him rule unopposed.

Awarding of Crimea (One of the richest part of the country) to Russia in exchange of 30% gas deduction.

Which led to the Euromadan crisis where the people revolted angrily and later led to removal of the president from the presidential palace. Then he ran into hiding Russia .

Putin used the crisis to annex the Donbass region while still using the Eastern-Ukraine who he termed Pro-Russia to riot against the removal of Viktor Yanukovych from office. For another man country ooo.

Since the take-over of Donbass, Putin has been causing several atrocities which even United States and other European Union have tried to settle but to no avail.

First, the Minsk 1 agreement championed by France and Germany representing the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) failed in 2014, and Minsk 2 agreement also held in Belarus failed again in 2015.

Why do these agreements failed?

Ukraine wants ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weaponry and full Ukrainian government control throughout the conflict zone of the region (Donbass).

Russia wants autonomy of Donbass. Russia wants this region to govern itself and to its own affairs because Russia is confident that here, the people are Russian speaking and they are pro Russians. So it'll be easy for Russia to exercise military and political influence.

On the other hand, Ukraine is aware of this. That is why it is against the autonomy of Donbass. Also, Donbass region is one of the prosperous industrialized regions of Ukraine before the conflict.

Similarly, even the Crimea peninsula is one of the prosperous industrialized regions of Ukraine and the inputs from these regions towards Ukraine's industrial production was very high.

That being said, there have been so much killings in that region since Putin came in 2012 and recognized the area as part of Russia and must be run against the will of Ukrainian government.

Putin sponsored rebels have been taking planes down in airports located in Luhansk and Donetsk. Talk about the Malaysia Flight 17, the Ilyushin 76 transport aircraft of the 25th transport aviation brigade of the Ukrainian air force, steady shelling and bombing of Ukrainian soldiers and so much more atrocities.

So if you're being logical and not allowing emotions take the lead, you'll know that Putin is only being GREEDY! While using Pro-Russians to save face.

I repeat, Ukraine has been coexisting without any complains for centuries. Why must it be since he came into office? There are so many whys. That's why all the European nations are throwing in sanctions.

Yeah, America and NATO might see the area as of militarily advantage but Ukraine has been applying to join the EU for over 9-years and it's been unsuccessful. And by the way, some of her neighbors bordering Russia have joined NATO without resistance from Putin. Why Ukraine in 2022?

Putin is only angry cos the youngman, Zelensky wants to change the status-quo. Then he's trying to save face using Pro-Russia sh*t.

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