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Svlla:
That's the 300 that arrived last month before the invasion. Am talking about the ones sent from Estonia 3 days ago


Also the ones sent by the US has been seized by Russia on friday

They should stop sending arms if it is only going to end in Russia hands

Of all places you want to get news, Its Sputnik the one of the main Russia Media spreading propaganda and was banned by the EU and Youtube, Bro run away from that site if you want to be neutral.

They did not seize Any JAVALIN or NLAW but propaganda.

Ukraine needs to shut up about some things
Why tweet about who is donating what
At this times

Collect the weapons and use it against the aggressor

Smashspesh:
Well, knowing the root of any cause is the only way to make a sound statement. I expected you to know this rather than swaying to the beat of the bandwagon.

Here's why I want you to apply logic:

The people of Luhansk and Donetsk never complained of being isolated or discrimated upon. Eastern-Ukrainian and the rest lived in harmony before Putin emerged the leader of Russia in 2012. And that's people that had existed for centuries. No war. No argument.

Check anywhere, there was never rioting nor discriminatory incitations between these people until 2012 and beyond.

Ukraine has been stomaching Russia's evils under Dmitry Medvedev and her predecessors but Vladimir Putin was more devilish.

The former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych was his pet boy. Putin tricked him into committing so much blunders against his people. For example, the changing of the Ukrainian article 111 of the constitution to enable him rule unopposed.

Awarding of Crimea (One of the richest part of the country) to Russia in exchange of 30% gas deduction.

Which led to the Euromadan crisis where the people revolted angrily and later led to removal of the president from the presidential palace. Then he ran into hiding Russia .

Putin used the crisis to annex the Donbass region while still using the Eastern-Ukraine who he termed Pro-Russia to riot against the removal of Viktor Yanukovych from office. For another man country ooo.

Since the take-over of Donbass, Putin has been causing several atrocities which even United States and other European Union have tried to settle but to no avail.

First, the Minsk 1 agreement championed by France and Germany representing the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) failed in 2014, and Minsk 2 agreement also held in Belarus failed again in 2015.

Why do these agreements failed?

Ukraine wants ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weaponry and full Ukrainian government control throughout the conflict zone of the region (Donbass).

Russia wants autonomy of Donbass. Russia wants this region to govern itself and to its own affairs because Russia is confident that here, the people are Russian speaking and they are pro Russians. So it'll be easy for Russia to exercise military and political influence.

On the other hand, Ukraine is aware of this. That is why it is against the autonomy of Donbass. Also, Donbass region is one of the prosperous industrialized regions of Ukraine before the conflict.

Similarly, even the Crimea peninsula is one of the prosperous industrialized regions of Ukraine and the inputs from these regions towards Ukraine's industrial production was very high.

That being said, there have been so much killings in that region since Putin came in 2012 and recognized the area as part of Russia and must be run against the will of Ukrainian government.

Putin sponsored rebels have been taking planes down in airports located in Luhansk and Donetsk. Talk about the Malaysia Flight 17, the Ilyushin 76 transport aircraft of the 25th transport aviation brigade of the Ukrainian air force, steady shelling and bombing of Ukrainian soldiers and so much more atrocities.

So if you're being logical and not allowing emotions take the lead, you'll know that Putin is only being GREEDY! While using Pro-Russians to save face.

I repeat, Ukraine has been coexisting without any complains for centuries. Why must it be since he came into office? There are so many whys. That's why all the European nations are throwing in sanctions.

Yeah, America and NATO might see the area as of militarily advantage but Ukraine has been applying to join the EU for over 9-years and it's been unsuccessful. And by the way, some of her neighbors bordering Russia have joined NATO without resistance from Putin. Why Ukraine in 2022?

Putin is only angry cos the youngman, Zelensky wants to change the status-quo. Then he's trying to save face using Pro-Russia sh*t.

Some of those countries you named join NATO when Russia was weak there was no way Russia would have won against NATO when Estonia joined in 2004. Russia was broke and yet to regain the confidence of USSR and Putin was just new as president. The person who handed over power to him saw the potential in him that he can make Russia powerful again. And you know what the person was right, Russia is powerful again today. He is a reasonable person and knows that it will be stupid to tell Estonia to leave NATO but he wanted to be sure that such mistake because of Russia weakness wont happen again.So the answer to your question is that Estonia wont join if Russia was to be as strong as today. The best they can do to their neighbors who have joined is to find a way to curtail them but never allow new ones like Ukraine or Belarus to join. The people who love the truth are with you President Putin!!!! You guys can not come and turn the world into a unipolar world. We need diverse views of how the world should be not some idiots telling everyone what to do.

My friend Russia is nobody, don't be deceived by Putin propaganda,the only power Russia have is Nuclear weapon, put Nuclear weapon aside and Russia will be destroyed, what they are using is 20th century weapon, a scrap metals

Truvelisback:
These Ukrainians should becareful, they shouldn't take Russia's leniency for weakness. They better look for another means to resolve this issue.

Truvelisback:
Do u think it's easy to fight the govt and win?

Aren't Ukraine and Russia governments?

Maybe you're right

But 300 javelin no be beans

Plus additional 1000 then why allow such a huge column of military formation advance towards Kiev

BTW I get my news from all source
Router, CNN fox AL Jazeera sputnik Tass Ria novosti globalsecurity orbit.info BBC msnbc and from many other sources

I then decide what to believe or not

BritishNaija:
Of all places you want to get news, Its Sputnik the one of the main Russia Media spreading propaganda and was banned by the EU and Youtube, Bro run away from that site if you want to be neutral.

They did not seize Any JAVALIN or NLAW but propaganda.

Etinosa1234:
Aren't Ukraine and Russia governments?

They are but u already the cause of their war. Let me shock u. The war has been Spiritually programmed. Russia is only fulfiling the Scripture.

Fake news

BritishNaija:
Commercial NO. Ukrainian Airforce still operates from kiev.

He is telling you fact and you are arguing blindly, Russia control Ukraine airspace anything that fly will shot down, that is why largest cargo plane in the world An-225 that belongs to Ukraine was down

Lovenorth:
Time for Putin to use maximum force to clear the remaining areas

He doesn't want civilian casualties to be much

Will Ukraine have space to stock weapons. I prefer peace, dialogue to conflicts

ladkud:
He is telling you fact and you are arguing blindly, Russia control Ukraine airspace anything that fly will shot down, that is why largest cargo plane in the world An-225 that belongs to Ukraine was down

All these novice on my mention, Since you refused to learn But actuallly argue blindly.
First of all, An 225 was not downed, it was parked in the airport and was not able to fly off to another Location due to one of it engines was removed for maintenance.

We are talking about kieve Airspace and not Ukraine in general.
The airport that the An 225 is located is outside kieve.

Next time before you want to join argument, makw sure you are Well informed.

Svlla:
Maybe you're right

But 300 javelin no be beans

Plus additional 1000 then why allow such a huge column of military formation advance towards Kiev

BTW I get my news from all source
Router, CNN fox AL Jazeera sputnik Tass Ria novosti globalsecurity orbit.info BBC msnbc and from many other sources

I then decide what to believe or not

The bold, because Putin do not care about casualties, But to achieve His goals of capturing kiev.

Avoid Following Sputnik As It's a Pro Goverment Media and are largely resposible for misinformation and Russia propaganda, that was why they Being blacklisted. MSNBC Ok, But I follow raw videos and eyewitness video fresh as it comes, twitter is the be source.

Svlla:
If Ukraine was so sure of its air dominance they would be sorties and taking out a massively compacted 40mile long column of Russian military hardware advancing on Ukraine

That's because there's none. Russia bombed all the strategic Military Bases and airforce base all over Ukraine before starting the invasion. So they are depleted in that area. That's why they kept begging NATO to help secure their airspace since 2 days now , but we all know that those ones can't do shit for now

Yes twitter is a good source but things on Twitter can easily be doctored to suit a particular narrative so I don't fully depend on any source.

Did you see that 'go Bleep yourself' video on Twitter
Or the 'ghost of Kiev'
What about the one about the colonel of tank brigade who was captured and his passport ceased

Do you believe those videos from twitter?

BritishNaija:
The bold, because Putin do not care about casualties, But to achieve His goals of capturing kiev.

Avoid Following Sputnik As It's a Pro Goverment Media and are largely resposible for misinformation and Russia propaganda, that was why they Being blacklisted. MSNBC Ok, But I follow raw videos and eyewitness video fresh as it comes, twitter is the be source.

True

timay1:
That's because there's none. Russia bombed all the strategic Military Bases and airforce base all over Ukraine before starting the invasion. So they are depleted in that area. That's why they kept begging NATO to help secure their airspace since 2 days now , but we all know that those ones can't do shit for now

Svlla:
Yes twitter is a good source but things on Twitter can easily be doctored to suit a particular narrative so I don't fully depend on any source.

Did you see that 'go Bleep yourself' video on Twitter
Or the 'ghost of Kiev'
What about the one about the colonel of tank brigade who was captured and his passport ceased

Do you believe those videos from twitter?

The bleep yourself was real, But the killing narrative was false.

Ghost of kieve obviously was posted by a gamer, and people who does not know thr origin of the video started saying it was real, But false it is.

When I say video, I mean live onces that could be verified, I do not subscribe to fake videos

BritishNaija:
You can take you propaganda else where, I'm very well updated.

If russian succeeded in taking over Kiev airspace, surely I will let you know

Now you read https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/ukraines-skies-remain-contested-says-us-defense-official-2022-2%3famp

Your problem is not even comprehension; it's reading.
Have a good day mate.

BritishNaija:
Please there is No Russia Air defence in Ukraine rather Russian war jets going To and Fro, Ukrainian military still controls significant parts of Kiev from which their fighter planes operates

Don't mind them with their beer parlour here say...please educate them.

But this are the things we see on Twitter

BTW do you know that Kherson regional centre has been effectively occupied by Russian troops

Thereby creating a link from Berdyansk, Enerhodar, to kherson attempts to cut Ukraine from the Azov sea and if they link with the troops from Donesk Mariupol will fall. Right now Mariupol is surrounded

You don't get this kind of update on Twitter bro

BritishNaija:
The bleep yourself was real, But the killing narrative was false.

Ghost of kieve obviously was posted by a gamer, and people who does not know thr origin of the video started saying it was real, But false it is.

When I say video, I mean live onces that could be verified, I do not subscribe to fake videos

Svlla:
But this are the things we see on Twitter

BTW do you know that Kherson regional centre has been effectively occupied by Russian troops

Thereby creating a link from Berdyansk, Enerhodar, to kherson attempts to cut Ukraine from the Azov sea and if they link with the troops from Donesk Mariupol will fall. Right now Mariupol is surrounded

You don't get this kind of update on Twitter bro

Since you just actually want me to leak my major sources. I have Ukrainians fighters in the battl, former work mates :Cyber Security!

I have my Mentor in the warzone too, live and direct.

Apart from that, best place to get your Update is twitter, posted by individual on ground there, do not follow videos on major news, As it video that individual might hace sent, abd major News studios will edit some parts.

Invitationn:
Your problem is not even comprehension; it's reading.
Have a good day mate.

Putin propaganda machine wannabe, i can School you from morning till night, But i can't force the factSInto your brain, you have to accept it.

We know you love russian soldiers, but Java Baby below love them most lolz.

Karemarealty288:
Don't mind them with their beer parlour here say...please educate them.

I have been schooling them, But majority of them have a blocked brain.

BritishNaija:
I have been schooling them, But majority of them have a blocked brain.

Please join us at Clubhouse.com to get the latest updates, thats where bright minds from all over the world meet to discuss and plan the way forward on this issue.
Just download the App.

Karemarealty288:
Please join us at Clubhouse.com to get the latest updates, that where bright minds from all over the world meet to discuss and plan the way forward.
Just download the App.

Ok, I will do later from work.

BritishNaija:
Putin propaganda machine wannabe, i can School you from morning till night, But i can't force the factSInto your brain, you have to accept it.

We know you love russian soldiers, but Java Baby below love them most lolz.

NATO e-dog, we know you love America. We also know you've fed fat on Western propaganda.
I saw how busy you were, telling people to avoid the Sputnik whilst swallowing BS from the Western media Geez!
I was right after all, your problem is reading.
Smh.

Is your mentor fighting?? I can only imagine how difficult it must be in those war torn areas

How is he able to send you updates in warzone

Well after the dust of this conflict is settled the real truth will come out

Peace bro

BritishNaija:
Since you just actually want me to leak my major sources. I have Ukrainians fighters in the battl, former work mates :Cyber Security!

I have my Mentor in the warzone too, live and direct.

Apart from that, best place to get your Update is twitter, posted by individual on ground there, do not follow videos on major news, As it video that individual might hace sent, abd major News studios will edit some parts.

Svlla:
Is your mentor fighting?? I can only imagine how difficult it must be in those war torn areas

How is he able to send you updates in warzone

Well after the dust of this conflict is settled the real truth will come out

Peace bro

There are live updates continously from people fighting in war zones, that is not rocket science.

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leesamyoung:
when he place security guarantee to NATO and US last year, don't they tell no

he did not place, or ask. He demanded as a bully and not a smart man as he is.

You can demand from your subordinate but not your equal.
You can't stand up in a lecture hall and demand everyone keeps quiet except you have some sort of control over them which if we want to correlate would be the US that can do that and even then they hardly do.

You guys need to know history and culture of people. NATO is made up of countries that were once empires and deep down like Russia still have tha proud trait.

You don't demand you negotiate which is what France, Germany and even Britain went all the way to Russia which itself is a sign of respect to ask him to choose diplomacy.
So him choosing brute force is spitting on that respect and that's why he's getting these harsh responses

Smashspesh:
Well, knowing the root of any cause is the only way to make a sound statement. I expected you to know this rather than swaying to the beat of the bandwagon.

Here's why I want you to apply logic:

The people of Luhansk and Donetsk never complained of being isolated or discrimated upon. Eastern-Ukrainian and the rest lived in harmony before Putin emerged the leader of Russia in 2012. And that's people that had existed for centuries. No war. No argument.

Check anywhere, there was never rioting nor discriminatory incitations between these people until 2012 and beyond.

Ukraine has been stomaching Russia's evils under Dmitry Medvedev and her predecessors but Vladimir Putin was more devilish.

The former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych was his pet boy. Putin tricked him into committing so much blunders against his people. For example, the changing of the Ukrainian article 111 of the constitution to enable him rule unopposed.

Awarding of Crimea (One of the richest part of the country) to Russia in exchange of 30% gas deduction.

Which led to the Euromadan crisis where the people revolted angrily and later led to removal of the president from the presidential palace. Then he ran into hiding Russia .

Putin used the crisis to annex the Donbass region while still using the Eastern-Ukraine who he termed Pro-Russia to riot against the removal of Viktor Yanukovych from office. For another man country ooo.

Since the take-over of Donbass, Putin has been causing several atrocities which even United States and other European Union have tried to settle but to no avail.

First, the Minsk 1 agreement championed by France and Germany representing the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) failed in 2014, and Minsk 2 agreement also held in Belarus failed again in 2015.

Why do these agreements failed?

Ukraine wants ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weaponry and full Ukrainian government control throughout the conflict zone of the region (Donbass).

Russia wants autonomy of Donbass. Russia wants this region to govern itself and to its own affairs because Russia is confident that here, the people are Russian speaking and they are pro Russians. So it'll be easy for Russia to exercise military and political influence.

On the other hand, Ukraine is aware of this. That is why it is against the autonomy of Donbass. Also, Donbass region is one of the prosperous industrialized regions of Ukraine before the conflict.

Similarly, even the Crimea peninsula is one of the prosperous industrialized regions of Ukraine and the inputs from these regions towards Ukraine's industrial production was very high.

That being said, there have been so much killings in that region since Putin came in 2012 and recognized the area as part of Russia and must be run against the will of Ukrainian government.

Putin sponsored rebels have been taking planes down in airports located in Luhansk and Donetsk. Talk about the Malaysia Flight 17, the Ilyushin 76 transport aircraft of the 25th transport aviation brigade of the Ukrainian air force, steady shelling and bombing of Ukrainian soldiers and so much more atrocities.

So if you're being logical and not allowing emotions take the lead, you'll know that Putin is only being GREEDY! While using Pro-Russians to save face.

I repeat, Ukraine has been coexisting without any complains for centuries. Why must it be since he came into office? There are so many whys. That's why all the European nations are throwing in sanctions.

Yeah, America and NATO might see the area as of militarily advantage but Ukraine has been applying to join the EU for over 9-years and it's been unsuccessful. And by the way, some of her neighbors bordering Russia have joined NATO without resistance from Putin. Why Ukraine in 2022?

Putin is only angry cos the youngman, Zelensky wants to change the status-quo. Then he's trying to save face using Pro-Russia sh*t.

So this is your story of how donetsk and lugansk was grabbed from ukraine ?
Firstly, putin came into power in 2000 and was replaced in 2008. Get your facts right Ok. The problem started when Ukraine president rejected Ukrainian-European Association Agreement, and America decided to interfere on an internal matter of sovereign nation.
Senator John mccain was in Kiev in december 2013 trying to incite the people against an elected government, simply because he rejected the Ukrainian-European Association Agreement, and you have the guts to accuse putin of making Yanukovych his puppet ? Can you provide a strong evidence to that, other than your usual baseless blabbing.
The people of the donbass region are rightfully agitated because of the manner Yanukovych was ousted out of power, by America sponsored protest and would rather be on there own. Now you don't like them. They don't like you. They want to be on there own and really have the right to be on there own. Why is this so difficult for you to accept ? You claim to be the model of democracy, why can't you accept the fact that they have conducted referendum and have choosen to remain an independent nation ?

Igbofam2:
https://sports.yahoo.com/ukrainian-pilots-arrive-poland-pick-231621686.html

I want to see the pilots face please, or send it to junk

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-promise-to-supply-fighter-jets-to-ukraine-gets-grounded/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwit3qSynKf2AhWBx4UKHSNeDx4QFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw1qTxDsmsLYRQxeDSFWNE9G

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