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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 11:56am On Mar 02, 2022
Valto:
[s] epever 48v 5000w hybrid inverter
fairly used daly 150A 8S smart lifepo4 bms
3A super Capacitor 8S balancerall sold out.
Brand new SUOER 12V Pure Sine Wave 1500VA inverter 82k [/s] [b] SOLD OUT!

BRAND NEW 50A /60A lithium battery fast charger (adjustable from 2.6v to 15v) 52K and 57k
epever 30A mppt CC Tracer A Series 12v/24v 53k
FST group 56 inches DC/AC ceiling fan 21k
QASA 18" DC standing fan with remote control 19500

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by EPOMA(m): 12:05pm On Mar 02, 2022
oliverwrites:
I am willing to remove the AC and also willing to spend 1m max on this. And I will still be on the national grid.

Good now you are talking
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by smallsmall: 4:34pm On Mar 02, 2022
MontyNG:


Well, Hyundai Kona (Full Electric, 250mile range) is currently being assembled in Nigeria. Why not just go all the way tongue tongue grin grin

That's my wish list for next year... This year, it's to add another 30kwh lifepo4 batteries to take me completely offgrid

I prefer a Hybrid Car (Fuel and Electric) than a full Electric.
Charging a Full Electric in this Nigeria where Power is epileptic and there are no charging points in most places, could mean one gets stuck on an Express Road without a charging Point in sight.
Na to dey push Moto from Abuja to Kano. grin grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 5:47pm On Mar 02, 2022
smallsmall:


I prefer a Hybrid Car (Fuel and Electric) than a full Electric.
Charging a Full Electric in this Nigeria where Power is epileptic and there are no charging points in most places, could mean one gets stuck on an Express Road without a charging Point in sight.
Na to dey push Moto from Abuja to Kano. grin grin

Not really, Electric cars are efficient in traffic, they only consume significant power when moving, Also you can see how long it can drive and estimate according.. it like your phone/laptop you know how long it can take you..

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by samir101ng(m): 6:04pm On Mar 02, 2022
I hail fellow house members in the Solar Ministry grin

As a new convert to the LifeP04 battery geng, i have been doing a lot of research on the different brands and capacities available. Of course, using LifeP04 also means you have to learn about the BMS (Battery Management System) and how it is included in your entire inverter system. Now one of the initial drawbacks of the move to LifeP04 was its high cost and availability. Buying from big name brands will seriously dent your wallet and a lot of people preferred the DIY approach by busing cells directly from China and attaching a BMS to the installation. This greatly reduced costs but now added complexity of installation and needed some technical knowledge. While most users will have preferred the first option many were driven to the latter due to costs and therefore led to a surge in demand for battery cells and installers. There are some new products out now that appears to have a middle ground option.

Server Rack LifeP04 batteries

SOK Battery | 100Ah 48v | Server Rack Battery
https://www.currentconnected.com/product/sk48v100/

EG4 48V 100AH LiFePower4 Battery
https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/48v-100ah-lifepower4-battery-by-eg4

Now, most LifeP04 cells bought from China from Manufacturers like EVE, CATL, LISHEN are 3.2V. So, if you need to build a 12V, 24V or 48V battery bank, you will need to buy multiples of these cells to build a bank. You will also need to buy a BMS and other necessary accessories to build the battery bank. This entails a lot of research and technical expertise for which many may not have the time nor energy for. With these pre-built LifeP04 Server Racks, its just plug and play. Though right now they are limited to 48V 100ah capacities, i think for the ease of mind and integration they offer at their price points its a good deal. What do you all think ?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 6:12pm On Mar 02, 2022
samir101ng:
What do you all think ?


I think you should buy lifepo4 cells and BMS and run it yourself. It's not that hard. You'd get a better bang for your buck that way. DIY all the way grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 6:36pm On Mar 02, 2022
samir101ng:
I hail fellow house members in the Solar Ministry grin

As a new convert to the LifeP04 battery geng, i have been doing a lot of research on the different brands and capacities available. Of course, using LifeP04 also means you have to learn about the BMS (Battery Management System) and how it is included in your entire inverter system. Now one of the initial drawbacks of the move to LifeP04 was its high cost and availability. Buying from big name brands will seriously dent your wallet and a lot of people preferred the DIY approach by busing cells directly from China and attaching a BMS to the installation. This greatly reduced costs but now added complexity of installation and needed some technical knowledge. While most users will have preferred the first option many were driven to the latter due to costs and therefore led to a surge in demand for battery cells and installers. There are some new products out now that appears to have a middle ground option.

Server Rack LifeP04 batteries

SOK Battery | 100Ah 48v | Server Rack Battery
https://www.currentconnected.com/product/sk48v100/

EG4 48V 100AH LiFePower4 Battery
https://shop.signaturesolar.us/products/48v-100ah-lifepower4-battery-by-eg4

Now, most LifeP04 cells bought from China from Manufacturers like EVE, CATL, LISHEN are 3.2V. So, if you need to build a 12V, 24V or 48V battery bank, you will need to buy multiples of these cells to build a bank. You will also need to buy a BMS and other necessary accessories to build the battery bank. This entails a lot of research and technical expertise for which many may not have the time nor energy for. With these pre-built LifeP04 Server Racks, its just plug and play. Though right now they are limited to 48V 100ah capacities, i think for the ease of mind and integration they offer at their price points its a good deal. What do you all think ?


we live in quite interesting times indeed. this is what some of us predicted some time ago with lithium technology.
finally it's beginning to go mainstream. soon, we will have more oems coming out with these sort of plug and play
models that require nothing but rudimentary knowledge of positive and negative battery connections and by
then lithium would be a household name.
i think it's the way to go provided price point is reasonable and quality of cells can be guaranteed.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dishtech(m): 7:03pm On Mar 02, 2022
MontyNG:


The battery model number is UU 24-200 and yes, it's in an 8s configuration

Other info I've found:

Rated Voltage: 25.6v (what's this?)
Charging voltage: 29.2 - 30v
Cut off: 2.5v per cell ( Does that mean the BMS cutoff is 20v? Can I then set my inverter to cut off at 21v
25.6v means 3.2v per cell (normal voltage) 3.65v maximum voltage.
2.5v is the bms cutoff voltage.
Charging voltage should be 29.2volt
If you set your inverter cutoff at 21v it mean it mean you Have 89% DOD. i.e 11% remaining to be empty.
If you're inverter has editable DOD I will advise you leave 20% or 30%. i.e 21.84v or 22.76v.
If your inverter is not editable then it needs some circuit for that. or check your inverter cutoff voltage. Some 24v inverter cutoff at 21volt while some cutoff at 22v.
Cutoff mine at 24v.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 7:53pm On Mar 02, 2022
Good evening @ GeorgeD1 & Bigrovar

I couldn't quote the lengthy message

Many of the arguments made earlier are true, I have had so many discussion with my roofers friends and people with homes or looking to build their homes that having a flat roof is best in case you plan solar to be used in the future but their response has always been in line of "send down the rain" roof types will always keep the inside of a house cool in hot days.

While their is always a win-lose situation to life ... Going with gives more win is a win-win in my book especially when ot comes to flat roofs.

Like a an esteem member here planned for such a scenario like this and his enjoying his setup.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Timekeeper452: 12:12am On Mar 03, 2022
Hello all, I found this page through google search, I have a question.

I have a 1kva inverter system and 4 pieces of 150ah ritar batteries.

It’s serving me well, loads I use on it are, my tv, two ceiling fans, laptop, bulbs, dstv, and sound system. It last me up to 18hrs of continuous usage if I don’t charge. My question is, due to the epileptic nature of power in my area, I would love to go full solar and not depend on PHCN to charge again. I was informed by a friend to get 4 solar panels (200w), I have no idea on anything about solar, what would I need and what budget am I looking at for the solar setup? Thanks everyone.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by MontyNG(m): 4:18am On Mar 03, 2022
smallsmall:


I prefer a Hybrid Car (Fuel and Electric) than a full Electric.
Charging a Full Electric in this Nigeria where Power is epileptic and there are no charging points in most places, could mean one gets stuck on an Express Road without a charging Point in sight.
Na to dey push Moto from Abuja to Kano. grin grin

Extremely bad planning for you to run out of juice with a car with 250+ mile range at Full charge. If making Abuja to Kano trip for example, you'll need to look for a good place enroute that you can charge on your overnight stay.

A behaviour and mindset change is def required if you intentionally own an electric car

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by MontyNG(m): 4:30am On Mar 03, 2022
Dishtech:

25.6v means 3.2v per cell (normal voltage) 3.65v maximum voltage.
2.5v is the bms cutoff voltage.
Charging voltage should be 29.2volt
If you set your inverter cutoff at 21v it mean it mean you Have 89% DOD. i.e 11% remaining to be empty.
If you're inverter has editable DOD I will advise you leave 20% or 30%. i.e 21.84v or 22.76v.
If your inverter is not editable then it needs some circuit for that. or check your inverter cutoff voltage. Some 24v inverter cutoff at 21volt while some cutoff at 22v.
Cutoff mine at 24v.

Thanks. I can set my LVD on my inverter and I've now set it at 24v. Which I now believe to be about 25% remaining. I try to run the battery between 90% and 20%. But the inverter starts beeping at 26v which is a bit annoying.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by alstacs(m): 6:40am On Mar 03, 2022
Dishtech:

25.6v means 3.2v per cell (normal voltage) 3.65v maximum voltage.
2.5v is the bms cutoff voltage.
Charging voltage should be 29.2volt
If you set your inverter cutoff at 21v it mean it mean you Have 89% DOD. i.e 11% remaining to be empty.
If you're inverter has editable DOD I will advise you leave 20% or 30%. i.e 21.84v or 22.76v.
If your inverter is not editable then it needs some circuit for that. or check your inverter cutoff voltage. Some 24v inverter cutoff at 21volt while some cutoff at 22v.
Cutoff mine at 24v.

I've been asking how these parameters apply to tubular batteries. Or better put, what are the parameters for tubular batteries?
Thank you
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 7:22am On Mar 03, 2022
MontyNG:


Thanks. I can set my LVD on my inverter and I've now set it at 24v. Which I now believe to be about 25% remaining. I try to run the battery between 90% and 20%. But the inverter starts beeping at 26v which is a bit annoying.

At 24V, Lifepo4 is already below 10%, if you can adjust low voltage warning, if not then you just have to live with it..
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 7:41am On Mar 03, 2022
alstacs:


I've been asking how these parameters apply to tubular batteries. Or better put, what are the parameters for tubular batteries?
Thank you
Most tubular batteries recommend a charge voltage of between 14.8v and 15.0v, 29.6v and 30.0v for 24v systems and 16.0v to 17.0v[32v - 34v] equalization voltage once in 2 or 3 months depending on usage

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 8:42am On Mar 03, 2022
Hello House

340w qcells solar panel available (toks)

Price 69k

400w sunpower available

Price - 90k

Jasolar 370w solar panel halfcut (toks)

Price -75k

Call/chat - 08117398294

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ahamlee: 8:52am On Mar 03, 2022
Penuelseun:
Most tubular batteries recommend a charge voltage of between 14.8v and 15.0v, 29.6v and 30.0v for 24v systems and 16.0v to 17.0v[32v - 34v] equalization voltage once in 2 or 3 months depending on usage
What are the DOD of a tubular batteries please?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Timekeeper452: 10:28am On Mar 03, 2022
Timekeeper452:
Hello all, I found this page through google search, I have a question.

I have a 1kva inverter system and 4 pieces of 150ah ritar batteries.

It’s serving me well, loads I use on it are, my tv, two ceiling fans, laptop, bulbs, dstv, and sound system. It last me up to 18hrs of continuous usage if I don’t charge. My question is, due to the epileptic nature of power in my area, I would love to go full solar and not depend on PHCN to charge again. I was informed by a friend to get 4 solar panels (200w), I have no idea on anything about solar, what would I need and what budget am I looking at for the solar setup? Thanks everyone.
please can someone explain and guide me further on this?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Eazeee(m): 10:32am On Mar 03, 2022
zeestone99:
Hello House

340w qcells solar panel available (toks)

Price 69k

400w sunpower available

Price - 90k

Jasolar 370w solar panel halfcut (toks)

Price -75k

Call/chat - 08117398294
Do u have 200 watts
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 11:05am On Mar 03, 2022
ahamlee:

What are the DOD of a tubular batteries please?
12v[24v] for 50% dod
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 11:08am On Mar 03, 2022
Timekeeper452:
please can someone explain and guide me further on this?
is your setup 12v or 24v? You need about 300w × 4 panels with an mppt controller for a start, more panels if you plan on using the batteries while charging. Also depends on if you will be charging it simultaneously with mains power during the day.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Timekeeper452: 11:18am On Mar 03, 2022
Penuelseun:
is your setup 12v or 24v? You need about 300w × 4 panels with an mppt controller for a start, more panels if you plan on using the batteries while charging. Also depends on if you will be charging it simultaneously with mains power during the day.
it’s 24v, I plan on using it while also charging, if power comes, I plan to charge with power too, if it doesn’t come I don’t mind too. I just want something that will make me be completely independent from national grid for days they decide to become fully stupid and take power for up to a week straight.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by samir101ng(m): 12:04pm On Mar 03, 2022
mctfopt:


I think you should buy lifepo4 cells and BMS and run it yourself. It's not that hard. You'd get a better bang for your buck that way. DIY all the way grin

And risk a kazeem solar installer or the time and energy needed to put together and monitor such a system abi ? grin

Bro, it's too much work & time for "me". And there are plenty mainstream consumers like me in the market that prefer an alternative to DIY.

Cost & setup was a major barrier for new entrants tempted to switch over from AGM & Tubular Lead Acid batteries to LifeP04. LifeP0 need a BMS, compression (depends on user), different charging profile, etc. Generally, it needed more attention than the regular AGM or Tubular. With a server rack battery, you have an all in one unit ready to go. It comes with a BMS in built, capacitors and wiring harness for the batteries, bus bars, etc. To put things into context, check out this video for the installation of a 16s LifeP0 280ah EVE battery install https://youtu.be/iUuRRhLegrY. Fam, all this na work nah. Why do all that if i can get the SOK Server Rack Battery and install it good to go. Another context to look at is the price too. The SOK 48v 100ah Server Rack Battery is currently on pre-order for $1,739.99. A battle born 48v battery equivalent will cost you $3,196 at $799 per 12v 100ah a piece. That's a huge cost savings and makes it more attractive to buyers. The SOK also comes with a 10year warranty and its serviceable by the user which means you can replace any faulty cell yourself.

GeorgeD1:


we live in quite interesting times indeed. this is what some of us predicted some time ago with lithium technology.
finally it's beginning to go mainstream. soon, we will have more oems coming out with these sort of plug and play
models that require nothing but rudimentary knowledge of positive and negative battery connections and by
then lithium would be a household name.
i think it's the way to go provided price point is reasonable and quality of cells can be guaranteed.

I agree. With mainstream availability comes mass adoption and the market share it commands. DIY while an enthusiastic community has limited market share compared to the main stream. As correctly pointed, as the technology matures, prices comes down and more oem's release products for the market we will see a healthy increase in adoption. Already there is a noticeable drop in demand for battery cells according to Youtuber Will Prowse https://youtu.be/ICPDTq-ePP4 since more companies are releasing complete systems. These server rack batteries can also communicate to your inverters like Victron, Growatt, MPPSolar etc so making it fit into your existing setup. It's a good development for the solar community overall.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by obinna37(m): 12:12pm On Mar 03, 2022
obinna37:
Oga valto na me dey chat you for WhatsApp, pertaining the inverter ,abeg sell for me ooo
Oga valto thank you for the deal,I received it this morning

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by samir101ng(m): 12:28pm On Mar 03, 2022
obinna37:
Oga valto thank you for the deal,I received it this morning

Oya, we are waiting for your review and unboxing pics grin

Thank you.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 1:10pm On Mar 03, 2022
samir101ng:


And risk a kazeem solar installer or the time and energy needed to put together and monitor such a system abi ? grin

Bro, it's too much work & time for "me". And there are plenty mainstream consumers like me in the market that prefer an alternative to DIY.


Ok, cool it appears you've already made up your mind. Good luck then.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 1:42pm On Mar 03, 2022
Timekeeper452:
it’s 24v, I plan on using it while also charging, if power comes, I plan to charge with power too, if it doesn’t come I don’t mind too. I just want something that will make me be completely independent from national grid for days they decide to become fully stupid and take power for up to a week straight.
ok, you can go for 6 350w panels[or go for higher wattage if you have the funds] connected in a 3s2p configuration, with a 50a mppt charge controller
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Timekeeper452: 1:51pm On Mar 03, 2022
Penuelseun:
ok, you can go for 6 350w panels[or go for higher wattage if you have the funds] connected in a 3s2p configuration, with a 50a mppt charge controller
thank you so much for the detailed reply, please forgive my noob questions , I have no idea what 3s2p means , like how much budget am I looking at here?
How much is the 50a mppt charge controller , and can I go with any solar panel at all as long as it’s 350w?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 2:30pm On Mar 03, 2022
samir101ng:


And risk a kazeem solar installer or the time and energy needed to put together and monitor such a system abi ? grin

Bro, it's too much work & time for "me". And there are plenty mainstream consumers like me in the market that prefer an alternative to DIY.

Cost & setup was a major barrier for new entrants tempted to switch over from AGM & Tubular Lead Acid batteries to LifeP04. LifeP0 need a BMS, compression (depends on user), different charging profile, etc. Generally, it needed more attention than the regular AGM or Tubular. With a server rack battery, you have an all in one unit ready to go. It comes with a BMS in built, capacitors and wiring harness for the batteries, bus bars, etc. To put things into context, check out this video for the installation of a 16s LifeP0 280ah EVE battery install https://youtu.be/iUuRRhLegrY. Fam, all this na work nah. Why do all that if i can get the SOK Server Rack Battery and install it good to go. Another context to look at is the price too. The SOK 48v 100ah Server Rack Battery is currently on pre-order for $1,739.99. A battle born 48v battery equivalent will cost you $3,196 at $799 per 12v 100ah a piece. That's a huge cost savings and makes it more attractive to buyers. The SOK also comes with a 10year warranty and its serviceable by the user which means you can replace any faulty cell yourself. .
looks good cheesy, but hope it is free shipping to Nigeria undecided To ship lithium from US to Nigeria might cost u double. u are still better off buying gradeA cells from China and coupling it here in Nigeria.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 2:35pm On Mar 03, 2022
Timekeeper452:
please can someone explain and guide me further on this?
get a 24V hybrid inverter with atleast 80A inbuilt mppt.
connect your battery in series of 2 each.
buy 4pcs of 450w panels, then u are good to go.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 4:03pm On Mar 03, 2022
Timekeeper452:
thank you so much for the detailed reply, please forgive my noob questions , I have no idea what 3s2p means , like how much budget am I looking at here?
How much is the 50a mppt charge controller , and can I go with any solar panel at all as long as it’s 350w?
3s2p means you connect 3 of the panels in series, then connect the 2 string in parallel, the marketers here can give you prices of the panels and charge controller, but budget 600k
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by saint2ace(m): 4:08pm On Mar 03, 2022
Good afternoon all, please who has dealt with solar depot before, are they really a biz or individuals with an "I don't care attitude to customers"?

How can I make an order and not get a notification from the seller, not even an email; I called over the weekend and no one took calls nor bothered to return calls on resumption of duty, I still continued to call only to be told item is out of stock and they will issue a refund.
3days later their chat to ask for location that's already in the order form and when asked for update, a supposed "customer service representative" replies that am I asking questions cos she buzzed to ask for location? shocked shocked All these cos I brought biz to an entity?

Please is this their modus operandi or this is just a freak occurrence from the blues.

I await responses........

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