ImDStar:
I have asked myself this particular questions more than 1000 times.

No good road
No electricity
No education (ASSU strike yearly festival)
No good health care
No water (no running water)
No security
No petrol.. every year fuel scarcity (and we have crude oil in abundance!!!)
No good working system (no system work in Nigeria, they've been littered with corruption)


So what actually is the country giving back to his people?

So what actually are Nigerians benefiting from Nigeria?

Maybe someone can help with the benefits of been a Nigeria.

jeffizy:
Ruggedness. Ability to survive under the worst kind of condition.

jeffizy:
Ruggedness. Ability to survive under the worst kind of condition.

ImDStar:
I have asked myself this particular questions more than 1000 times.

No good road
No electricity
No education (ASSU strike yearly festival)
No good health care
No water (no running water)
No security
No petrol.. every year fuel scarcity (and we have crude oil in abundance!!!)
No good working system (no system work in Nigeria, they've been littered with corruption)


So what actually is the country giving back to his people?

So what actually are Nigerians benefiting from Nigeria?

Maybe someone can help with the benefits of been a Nigeria.

jeffizy:
Ruggedness. Ability to survive under the worst kind of condition.

ImDStar:
I have asked myself this particular questions more than 1000 times.

No good road

No electricity

No education (ASSU strike yearly festival)

No good health care

No water (no running water)

No security

No petrol.. every year fuel scarcity (and we have crude oil in abundance!!!)

backbencher:


Because
1.We don't pay tolls on the roads like we used to

2.Due to oil prices never being where we want them to be, they are always low, and as a result, revenue for road repairs is also low.

3.Tax to gdp ratio is 8% (Ghana 24%, South Africa 24%)



Because we

1.Sell it at a loss. Cost reflective tarrifs should be above N83 per kwh, but we pay between N41-71 PER KWH, and before it was around N20-30. So, discos and gencos and tcn don't have enough cash to fix things.

2.30-40%of people don't even pay for power adding to the losses

3.Because the sector runs at a loss, it cannot fix the problems it faces, and government bailouts don't even cover the problem (even with government bailouts, the sector needs at least N1 trillon extra to fix things annually).

Run a business at a loss...


Because fees are too too low to pay for improving things.

In Universities, for example, the immediate past VC of a university once said that his overheads are 600million naira a year, yet he gets 120 million from government for the thing.

Fees are too too low. We spend about $3 billion on education, South Africa has nice universites, a budget of $23 billion and fees much higher than our own universities.

Basically, we are not earning enough money to pay for universities, and we are still setting up more. Also see tax in 3 above.




Health is heavily subsidsied...meaning that they don't have money. Government hospitals are forced to charge cheap tarrifs, meaning they run at a loss, plus some patients don't pay.

Plus, we spend less than $3 billion for something that needs $100 billion or more before we see decent health care



Pay low tarrifs, get low quality supply.



We pay one tenth of the amount the city of New York budgets in a year to fund its local police...to police 200 million or more people. New York has 25 million people. And you expect miracles.

(ENDSARS agitated for this by the way...it was one of their points. Better funding and saalries for police)




Yeah, but we are not ready to pay the actual cost of refining that fuel into petrol at standard. That means when we had refineries we sold petrol from them at a loss, and then paid a subsidy that did not cover the losses. When the refinereis broke down, we started importing, and selling the petrol at a cost below the cost of importing it..and paying a subsidy that if we had sold at a profit, would have been used for refineries.

Yes, we spend money that could have been used in part for refineries on subsidy, and we are about to take a loan of 3 trillion naira for subsidy this year due to its rising cost due to rising oil prices.

Sell at a loss, get problems like scarcity...which is used to recoup losses made all year from selling below market price.
No good working system (no system work in Nigeria, they've been littered with corruption)


In conclusion, APC and PDP and all the other parties would make Nigeria better if we face the reality that we are a poor country, and we cannot fund welfare packages from oil revenue.

Better we start by removing oil subsidy and also allowing power sector to charge N100 and above per kwh. In return, we subsidsie education and health and public transport with the money saved from removing subsides on both power and petrol

We can also collect taxes from the 70% of Nigerians that do not pay taxes to the state and FG. Taxable Nigerians, not kids.

And we can also collect tolls on the roads, and parking tickets, to fund road repairs.


(My opinion. If you do not like it, sorry. I am not responsible for you getting angry over words.)

Urbanchampion:



Your conclusion gave you ...talking about paying more for everything, where we the "more" come from? And what tangible thing are the government showing for the "little " we're paying?

backbencher:


Because
1.We don't pay tolls on the roads like we used to

2.Due to oil prices never being where we want them to be, they are always low, and as a result, revenue for road repairs is also low.

3.Tax to gdp ratio is 8% (Ghana 24%, South Africa 24%)



Because we

1.Sell it at a loss. Cost reflective tarrifs should be above N83 per kwh, but we pay between N41-71 PER KWH, and before it was around N20-30. So, discos and gencos and tcn don't have enough cash to fix things.

2.30-40%of people don't even pay for power adding to the losses

3.Because the sector runs at a loss, it cannot fix the problems it faces, and government bailouts don't even cover the problem (even with government bailouts, the sector needs at least N1 trillon extra to fix things annually).

Run a business at a loss...


Because fees are too too low to pay for improving things.

In Universities, for example, the immediate past VC of a university once said that his overheads are 600million naira a year, yet he gets 120 million from government for the thing.

Fees are too too low. We spend about $3 billion on education, South Africa has nice universites, a budget of $23 billion and fees much higher than our own universities.

Basically, we are not earning enough money to pay for universities, and we are still setting up more. Also see tax in 3 above.




Health is heavily subsidsied...meaning that they don't have money. Government hospitals are forced to charge cheap tarrifs, meaning they run at a loss, plus some patients don't pay.

Plus, we spend less than $3 billion for something that needs $100 billion or more before we see decent health care



Pay low tarrifs, get low quality supply.



We pay one tenth of the amount the city of New York budgets in a year to fund its local police...to police 200 million or more people. New York has 25 million people. And you expect miracles.

(ENDSARS agitated for this by the way...it was one of their points. Better funding and saalries for police)




Yeah, but we are not ready to pay the actual cost of refining that fuel into petrol at standard. That means when we had refineries we sold petrol from them at a loss, and then paid a subsidy that did not cover the losses. When the refinereis broke down, we started importing, and selling the petrol at a cost below the cost of importing it..and paying a subsidy that if we had sold at a profit, would have been used for refineries.

Yes, we spend money that could have been used in part for refineries on subsidy, and we are about to take a loan of 3 trillion naira for subsidy this year due to its rising cost due to rising oil prices.

Sell at a loss, get problems like scarcity...which is used to recoup losses made all year from selling below market price.
No good working system (no system work in Nigeria, they've been littered with corruption)


In conclusion, APC and PDP and all the other parties would make Nigeria better if we face the reality that we are a poor country, and we cannot fund welfare packages from oil revenue.

Better we start by removing oil subsidy and also allowing power sector to charge N100 and above per kwh. In return, we subsidsie education and health and public transport with the money saved from removing subsides on both power and petrol

We can also collect taxes from the 70% of Nigerians that do not pay taxes to the state and FG. Taxable Nigerians, not kids.

And we can also collect tolls on the roads, and parking tickets, to fund road repairs.


(My opinion. If you do not like it, sorry. I am not responsible for you getting angry over words.)

ImDStar:
You did made some valid points, but like the person below asked, what has the government done with the little in their disposal?

In order words, how would you entrust someone who'd failed to manage little/small responsibilities with bigger responsibilities?

Dawn91:
[s][/s]
The OP.didnt ask what you benefit from joining the army, think before typing

ImDStar:
May God deliver Nigerians from suffering and smiling, you're suffering and boasting of it.

Why would you term suffering as an act of ruggedness?..Lolz

jeffizy:
Ruggedness. Ability to survive under the worst kind of condition.

ImDStar:
I have asked myself this particular questions more than 1000 times.

No good road
No electricity
No education (ASSU strike yearly festival)
No good health care
No water (no running water)
No security
No petrol.. every year fuel scarcity (and we have crude oil in abundance!!!)
No good working system (no system work in Nigeria, they've been littered with corruption)


So what actually is the country giving back to his people?

So what actually are Nigerians benefiting from Nigeria?

Maybe someone can help with the benefits of been a Nigeria.

ImDStar:
I have asked myself this particular questions more than 1000 times.

No good road
No electricity
No education (ASSU strike yearly festival)
No good health care
No water (no running water)
No security
No petrol.. every year fuel scarcity (and we have crude oil in abundance!!!)
No good working system (no system work in Nigeria, they've been littered with corruption)


So what actually is the country giving back to his people?

So what actually are Nigerians benefiting from Nigeria?

Maybe someone can help with the benefits of been a Nigeria.

Ekpeitit:
If you don't like Nigeria just go to Biafra, stop complaining all the time. Go and smoke some meth.

DCatt:
Nothing but greed won’t let them split the country.

ImDStar:
I guess you're still a baby feeding from your parents, no abuse intended.

This thread called for a deep thought as regard the state of things in Nigeria.

Nigeria is celebrating 61years of independence, yet no 24hrs electricity, no good health care system, etc. And you see nothing wrong with that?

What type of human being should I classify you as?

But why are you guys rejoicing in suffering?

Are Nigerians really born to suffer, why can't you simply put on your thinking cap?

ImDStar:
I have asked myself this particular questions more than 1000 times.

No good road
No electricity
No education (ASSU strike yearly festival)
No good health care
No water (no running water)
No security
No petrol.. every year fuel scarcity (and we have crude oil in abundance!!!)
No good working system (no system work in Nigeria, they've been littered with corruption)


So what actually is the country giving back to his people?

So what actually are Nigerians benefiting from Nigeria?

Maybe someone can help with the benefits of been a Nigeria.

Ekpeitit:
I do not have the time to argue with a Biafran armed robber, like I said before,you can go to Biafra if you're not happy here.
The Americans have a saying, " Love it or leave it",it's your choice Emeka.
Leave or shut up

ImDStar:
It's quite unfortunate that Nigeria have higher population of foolish people, No apologies.

And when you complain, some mentally challenged people will divert the discussion to be religious and ethnicity topic.