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AntiChristian:
So this proves that the translators of your Bible to Hausa & Arabic are liars and hypocrites for using the name of Allah as their God!

cornelboy:


if you don't know, God is a common noun used for anything that's regarded as diety.

Jehovah is the sacred personal name for the God of Israel. There are other gods na.

So if Allah is the common name of anything considered as God, the translators can use it.

In Hausa language, umbagidi is the word for God. In yoruba language it's ọlọrun.
What the word for God in Arabic language? Is it Allah?

AntiChristian:
Why did Hausa use Ubanjigi for Yahweh/ Jehovah and Allah for God (Elohim). It is a fraud as Christians don't believe in the Allah Hausa people know as their God!

And more Yorubas can use Oluwa in place of Olorun!

12rev:
Was the name Allah in use by arabic christians before muhammed?...the deceit continues.

ANTIlSLAM:
See question oo, you will learn by fire by force

Quran 3:54

Muhammad Ahmed & Samira

And they cheated/deceived and God cheated/deceived, and God (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers

Sahih International: And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners.

Pickthall: And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.

Yusuf Ali: And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.

Shakir: And they planned and Allah (also) planned, and Allah is the best of planners.

Muhammad Sarwar: The unbelievers plotted and God planned, but God is a much better planner;

Mohsin Khan: And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill 'Iesa (Jesus) ], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners.

Arberry: And they devised, and God devised, and God is the best of devisers

cornelboy:
Oluwa is lord.

What's is the word for God in Arabic language?

budaatum:
Have you not just chosen a bad translation to suit your bias just as the op did in assuming the use of a word for God that preceded Islam has been chosen to deceive?

AntiChristian:
I guess this is a plot to deceive the unsuspecting Hausas to accept Christianity just as Grape juice was used to replace wine in the Bible.

AntiChristian:
I wrote the thread based on some Christian's believe that Allah is another God different from their own Yahweh!

And one thread is on at the moment https://www.nairaland.com/7000749/proof-allah-not-god

AntiChristian:
Rabb!

budaatum:
Guessing is like making up crap in one's head and believing it.
It's effect is the cluttering of one's mind with crap.
It can be cured by wudu of the mind.

Was it a plot by Mohammed to make pagans accept his God by naming his God after their God too?

AntiChristian:
Hence Allaah said concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):
“And if you (O Muhammad) ask them: ‘Who has created the heavens and the earth,’ they will certainly say: ‘Allaah’” [Luqmaan 31:25]

This indicates that they acknowledged that Allaah is the Creator. Another aayah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And verily, if you ask them: ‘Who created the heavens and the earth?’ Surely, they will say: ‘Allaah (has created them)’”
[al-Zumar 39:38]

budaatum:
Have you not just chosen a bad translation to suit your bias just as the op did in assuming the use of a word for God that preceded Islam has been chosen to deceive?

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ANTIlSLAM:
Let me give you in Arabic, Quran 3:54

Arabic: ‏وَمَكَرُوا۟ وَمَكَرَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَٱللَّهُ خَيْرُ ٱلْمَكِرِينَ ‎

Makrina is from (مَكْر [makr] ) which means cunning, deceptive, guile. Oya what next?

budaatum:
This is like saying, ask Ogun or Sopona worshippers who created the heavens and earths, and when they say Olorun, you claim their God is the same God as your own and it "indicates that they acknowledged that Allaah is the Creator".

Religious battles are anti-allah, whom it is written created you humans with your diversity so you can learn from one another instead of constantly ignorantly squabbling over who has the better God!

AntiChristian:
The thread was not created to ignorantly squabbling over who has the better God! as you claim. When christians posted that Allah is a moon God on our thread you were blind then. But you only saw the response here and you go haywire.

AntiChristian:
That's why Hausas mostly use Allaah alone for their God.

budaatum:
I feel certain this is not just about words. You probably have direct experience of being deceived by Allah, hence your anger against Allah.

Take responsibility is what I say, instead of blaming imaginations written in a book.

ANTIlSLAM:
So Quran is an imagination book abi?

Who's angry with an object that was caged inside the shrine and black stone of kaaba? Take responsibility and think from your brain pls

budaatum:
The book can't be imaginary since you must have seen one with your own eyes or would have if you'd used them

budaatum:
Take responsibility is what I say, instead of blaming imaginations written in a book.

ANTIlSLAM:
You tagged your own Quran as an imagination book.

ANTIlSLAM:
Is like you need a very hot camel urine this morning, were you sleeping when typing this because I shown you the Quran verse that talks about allah as the best of cheaters and deceivers?

budaatum:
I never saw what Christians posted about Allah and would have ignored it as ignorant squabbling over who has the better God if I had because most Christians are ignorant about their own Bible not to talk of the Quran and I seriously expect Muslims to be smarter.

Be they Muslims or Christians, which would be sufficient evidence there is one God, that Mohammed is a prophet and that Jesus is his son that Mary bore for him.

AntiChristian:
The God our creator is one. Never did i squabble on having a superior God to anyone. I don't know where you are bringing up those thoughts!

budaatum:
This sums up the pointlessness of engaging you. You either can not read or do not understand what you read, and perhaps should go read some simpler books before you engage with complex books.

budaatum:
The Quran is a book and can not be imaginary since it can be picked up and read, and the only one beheading anyone is your very self.

budaatum:
Take responsibility is what I say, instead of blaming imaginations written in a book.

budaatum:
The Quran does not talk. You pick up the Quran and read it yourself and hopefully understand it, which does not seem to be the case with you.

Now, about gods being cunning. Yahweh is written to have helped the Israelites to steal from the Egyptians, and Christ told a [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2016&version=NIV]parable about a cunning steward[/url] who committed fraud.

Are Christ and Yahweh therefore "Makrina is from (مَكْر [makr] ) which means cunning, deceptive, guile", or were they telling their adherents to steal and commit fraud and be Makrina?

ANTIlSLAM:
In your own Arabic school, your alfas gather you, brainwashed you slaves by telling you guys that Jesus commit fraudulent act isn't it?

budaatum:
Who told you Jesus committed fraudulent acts? If that's what you understand from what you read then I suggest you go back to school to learn how to read because you sure don't qualify as a person to listen to when it comes to Jesus, the Bible and the Quran

ANTIlSLAM:
You said Quran is an imagination book ......

budaatum:
Take responsibility is what I say, instead of blaming imaginations written in a book.

budaatum:
No I did not. A physical book you can hold in your hand can not be imaginary, but you just keep showing everyone you can't understand what you read so we all can see how irrelevant you are.

budaatum:
This sums up the pointlessness of engaging you. You either can not read or do not understand what you read, and perhaps should go read some simpler books before you engage with complex books.

ANTIlSLAM:
The state of your disorientation is second to none.. Tell ur English teacher to explain to you what those statements of yours means from God helped the Israelites to steal from the Egyptians (if it is not a fraudulent act) to imagination written in a book (if the book consigned is not an idea)

AntiChristian:
Farawa (Genesis) 1:1-10 Allah appears 11 times in 10 verses
1A sa'ad da Allah ya fara halittar Sama da duniya, 2duniya ba ta da siffa, sarari ce kawai, duhu kuwa yana lulluɓe da fuskar zurfin teku, Ruhun Allah kuma yana shawagi bisa ruwayen. 3 Allah ya ce, “Bari haske ya kasance,” sai kuwa ya kasance. 4 Allah ya ga hasken yana da kyau. Allah ya raba tsakanin hasken da duhu, 5ya ce da hasken, “Yini,” duhu kuwa, “Dare.” Ga maraice, ga safiya, kwana ɗaya ke nan.
6 Allah ya ce, “Bari sarari ya kasance tsakanin ruwaye, don ya raba tsakaninsu.” 7 Allah kuwa ya yi sarari, ya kuma raba tsakanin ruwayen da suke ƙarƙashin sararin da ruwayen da suke birbishin sararin. Haka nan kuwa ya kasance. 8 Allah ya ce da sarari, “Sararin sama.” Ga maraice, ga safiya, kwana na biyu ke nan.
9 Allah kuwa ya ce, “Bari ruwayen da suke ƙarƙashin sararin su tattaru wuri ɗaya, bari kuma sandararriyar ƙasa ta bayyana.” Haka nan kuwa ya kasance. 10 Allah ya ce da sandararriyar ƙasar, “Duniya,” tattaruwan ruwayen da aka tara kuwa, ya ce da su, “Tekuna.” Allah ya ga yana da kyau.

It doesn't matter if you don't understand Hausa Bible of Genesis 1:1-10.
Christians would agree they don't worship Allah but why would these Christian translators use Allah so much in the Hausa Bible?

I guess this is a plot to deceive the unsuspecting Hausas to accept Christianity just as Grape juice was used to replace wine in the Bible.

TenQ:
The Name of the God of the Christians and Jews is Jehovah/Yahweh

The derived forms Iehouah and Jehovah first appeared in the 16th century.

Jehovah was first introduced by William Tyndale in his translation of Exodus 6:3, and appears in some other early English translations including the Geneva Bible and the King James Version.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah

budaatum:
At least it is, as named by Tyndale.