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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Phaantom22: 11:52am On Mar 06, 2022
Nothing ever flavours this government, even when crude oil price increase is favourable to every oil producing countries ours is always a "curse" because of the cursed leaders we have.
embarassed
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Realist12: 12:07pm On Mar 06, 2022
This oil subsidy of a thing is getting out of hand . It's time Nigeria took the Gaddafi approach. How can we have oil and suffer for having oil. But I guess our leaders are scared and can't take the bold step . Same oil that blessed a lot of countries is our own curse here .
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by nedu666: 12:13pm On Mar 06, 2022
ugonology:
This is what you get when you try to run a country like a poultry farm, Where government provides subsidies on everything from petrol, education, agriculture to power generation and distribution to health care.

Subsidy is the reason why ASUU will always go on strike (students can't be paying 80$ per section and you expect government to handle the rest) socialist government structures like subsidies will always spell doom for any growing economy, look at Syria and Venezuela. 90% of Nigeria's problem is tied to the senseless spendings on 'hypocritical' subsidies that eventually get looted by the high and mighty.
Until we tell ourselves the truth, we will continue to suffer needlessly.

Subsidy is not Nigeria's problem. Corruption is the problem. They tell u Nigeria does not have money but politicians, contractors, friends, etc have been steadily stealing money since 1970. Imagine wat all the billions of dollars stolen can do in Nigeria

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Yankee101: 12:48pm On Mar 06, 2022
Oil has not jumped by 100%
But elections are 100% near
We need to recover our monet from otedola to dangote to tinubuand all the politicians
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Nobody: 1:10pm On Mar 06, 2022
Correction:
Stealing will jump to 100%!

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ayenale1(m): 1:58pm On Mar 06, 2022
Let them jus remove this subsidy once and for all...
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Fiscus105(m): 2:03pm On Mar 06, 2022
Nukilia:



The sad part of this construct is that the APC supporters at the grassroot are all suffering from the hardship their party has brought on the nation.

The elites of the party sponsor criminal minds to type comments online and sway public opinion. The hotest part of hell is waiting for the APC miscreants.


As if yahoo yahoo and ritual generation will do better.
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Fiscus105(m): 2:05pm On Mar 06, 2022
seunmsg:


I’m on the queue about to buy fuel for N164.9 at Mobil filing station, Jikwoyi Abuja. So, stop lying. Nobody is buying fuel at 1k per liter in Abuja. Not even black market.


I think ur frustration on the queen has completely beclouded ur reasoning of judgment and that made u not to know where to direct or redirect ur lamentation to
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by brandsoncharlie: 2:38pm On Mar 06, 2022
ugonology:
This is what you get when you try to run a country like a poultry farm, Where government provides subsidies on everything from petrol, education, agriculture to power generation and distribution to health care.

Subsidy is the reason why ASUU will always go on strike (students can't be paying 80$ per section and you expect government to handle the rest) socialist government structures like subsidies will always spell doom for any growing economy, look at Syria and Venezuela. 90% of Nigeria's problem is tied to the senseless spendings on 'hypocritical' subsidies that eventually get looted by the high and mighty.
Until we tell ourselves the truth, we will continue to suffer needlessly.
Jonathan paid subsidy too. What happened then? The minister of petroleum in the person of Diezani madueke looted 90 billion dollars plus other assets in her possession despite the $100 dollar price in crude oil.
Subsidy has nothing to do with this, these mumu African leaders are born criminals.

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by seunmsg(m): 2:39pm On Mar 06, 2022
Fiscus105:



I think ur frustration on the queen has completely beclouded ur reasoning of judgment and that made u not to know where to direct or redirect ur lamentation to

But you’re the one lamenting here now. I was barely in the queue for 30 minutes and I’m not complaining.
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by brandsoncharlie: 2:41pm On Mar 06, 2022
SarkinYarki:
Which subsidy ..shebi Zombies said Jonathan was performing because of 100 dollar oil
.at 100 dollar per barrel Jonathan was serving us petrol at 87 naira per litre and kept the subsidy bill below a quarter of what Buhari claims to spend annually ..Low oil price Buhari complained now high oil price he is still complaining
These things they're saying are propaganda to the masses.
As at that time of Jonathan paying subsidy deizani looted 90 billion dollars plus other loot in asset, where did she get such huge funds from??

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by brandsoncharlie: 2:45pm On Mar 06, 2022
backbencher:
Exactly

As the crude oil price rises so does the subsidy cost, and drain on our revenue

Which was what GEJ was trying to tell nigerians 10 years ago. Too bad we didn't listen..( some of us did though, including some of his opponents. But we are in the minority)

Subsidy is a monster that eats and eats money..even when well managed
Answer this question : where did diezani get 90 billion dollars and other assets of loots despite complaining of paying subsidy?

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Nobody: 2:52pm On Mar 06, 2022
brandsoncharlie:

Answer this question : where did diezani get 90 billion dollars and other assets of loots despite complaining of paying subsidy?

That's why we should fight corruption, plus it is completely off

If you want to blast your politicians, go and blast them, don't come and be asking me, especially since I didn't vote for GEJ or Buhari, or their parties.

Now run along.
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ugonology(m): 2:55pm On Mar 06, 2022
proclinician:


If you fix power, fuel consumption will drop by 40%. Why didn't you capture it in ur nonsense analysis abi ur mind no reach.

And what do you think is the problem of the power sector in Nigeria?
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by PARADIZEPRIEST: 3:02pm On Mar 06, 2022
NIGERIA IS MAKING MORE DOLLARS NOW FROM OIL PRICE RISE FROM $62 TO OVER$100 PER BARREL. HOPE THIS BILLIONS OF SUPPLUS WILL NOT BE DIVERTED BY CROOKS .
GOVT OF THE DAY USE THIS SURPLUS TO FIX ELECTRICITYangryNAIJA PPL ARE SITTING MOROONS LOOKING WITHOUT DOIN THE THIS ARITHEMETIC, because OF HIGH LEVEL OF ILLITERACY AND IGNORANCE. undecided EVEN WHEN YOUr LEADERS HAve MISMANAGED ECOMY AND LEFT OFFICE YOU PPL STILL DEY WORSHIP THEM INSTEAD OF SHAMING THEM OR HUMILIATING THEM in public.

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by brandsoncharlie: 3:03pm On Mar 06, 2022
backbencher:


That's why we should fight corruption, plus it is completely off

If you want to blast your politicians, go and blast them, don't come and be asking me, especially since I didn't vote for GEJ or Buhari, or their parties.

Now run along.
Subsidy has nothing to do with anything be reasonable. Nigerian government just like any other government around the world gives some forms of incentive or the other to citizens that doesn't deter them from functioning.
You're giving lame excuses, am pointing out the irrelevant excuses because that's not making sense.
The earlier you people hold your Nigerian leaders accountable the better for Nigeria as a country.
Na una dey suffer am Sha, where I dey over 2yrs going no light off nothing like petrol no dey.

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Nobody: 3:07pm On Mar 06, 2022
brandsoncharlie:

Subsidy has nothing to do with anything be reasonable. Nigerian government just like any other government around the world gives some forms of incentive or the other to citizens that doesn't deter them from functioning.

Well, if you want a subsidy, you fund it from the income tax revenue...which means raising Nigeria's tax to gdp ratio from the current 8% to 46% and also making sure the 70% of Nigerians who don't pay taxes pay them. Not from crude oil revenue.

Hard work for your leaders

You're giving lame excuses, am pointing out the irrelevant excuses because that's not making sense.
The earlier you people hold your Nigerian leaders accountable the better for Nigeria as a country.

And after I told you I don't vote for PDP and APC?

Ah well, good afternoon. Go and run for office if you want change. Maybe I'll vote for you too.,

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ugonology(m): 3:21pm On Mar 06, 2022
nedu666:


Subsidy is not Nigeria's problem. Corruption is the problem. They tell u Nigeria does not have money but politicians, contractors, friends, etc have been steadily stealing money since 1970. Imagine wat all the billions of dollars stolen can do in Nigeria

Yes, corruption is our problem but subsidies are a convenient cover and a legitimate system that helps cooperate thieves to strive and blossom. without this subsidy system, nobody will be able to effortlessly steal trillions from our treasury.

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ugonology(m): 3:23pm On Mar 06, 2022
brandsoncharlie:

Jonathan paid subsidy too. What happened then? The minister of petroleum in the person of Diezani madueke looted 90 billion dollars plus other assets in her possession despite the $100 dollar price in crude oil.
Subsidy has nothing to do with this, these mumu African leaders are born criminals.

Am not in support of subsidy payments, am for a complete end to petrol subsidies in Nigeria

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ugonology(m): 3:45pm On Mar 06, 2022
sammhi:

Did you go to school at all ? You think capitalism is only way to run a country ? If you don't subsidize then you actually handing your citizens to corporation for milking . A growing economy need industries and subsidies if not you run your country to become an imperial state ...very rich few and very poor many
Subsidy is not the issue ...
What should govt do ?
1. Priotise projects
2.cut down coat of governance
3. Make use of available resources to build industries
4. Encourage export by providing conducive environment for business
5. Encourage FDI by lower tax
We can go on and on ....
What we do currently is revenue draining And is the cause of revenue loss..where Government sell crude and import refined fuels .it's absolute madness .it is a recipe for disaster in any angle
I was hoping Buhari by 2015 wil prioritise building mid size refineries to solve and abolish our dependence on importation of refined crude . This will also create wealth , earn government foreign exchange and reduce pressure on the Naira . Now we are waiting for Dangote which in a sense is wrong as you are ultimately placing your citizens welfare in hands of one man. we should have as many refineries as possible . That way there is competition that can lower prices
Instead of borrowing money to bud rails , it should have been used to build refineries...
Rail is not an immediate need

Your roof is leaking...but what troubles you the most is building a factory for the manufacturing of aluminium roofing sheets? Why not stop the leakage first! Before being ambitious of building nuclear reactors and modular refineries. Nigeria is losing trillions annually to this subsidy scam!! These guys are not even subsidising anything! they subsidise a few million barrels, doctor and inflate the figures to hundreds of millions of barrels and get paid with taxpayers money.

Today a litre of petrol is 250, even 300 in some sections of the country... what was the proposed price of a litre of petrol if subsidy were to be removed?? Was it not 300? yet you are not seeing the broad day light robbery of your treasury. You are already buying at the 300 you are resisting and they are still paying the subsidy! pack of schooled idiots...a legion of educated fools�

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by Nobody: 3:47pm On Mar 06, 2022
ugonology:


Your roof is leaking...but what troubles you the most is building a factory for the manufacturing of aluminium roofing sheets? Why not stop the leakage first! Before being ambitious of building nuclear reactors and modular refineries. Nigeria is losing trillions annually to this subsidy scam!! These guys are not even subsidising anything! they subsidise a few million barrels, doctor and inflate the figures to hundreds of millions of barrels and get paid with taxpayers money.

Today a litre of petrol is 250, even 300 in some sections of the country... what was the proposed price of a litre of petrol if subsidy were to be removed?? Was it not 300? yet you are not seeing the broad day light robbery of your treasury. pack of schooled idiots...a legion of educated fools�

It is a difficult thing arguing for subsidy removal here on this site.

Most Nairalanders support it unreservedly. Even when they get what you say...the fact is, cheap fuel is what they want.

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ugonology(m): 4:02pm On Mar 06, 2022
backbencher:


It is a difficult thing arguing for subsidy removal here on this site.

Most Nairalanders support it unreservedly. Even when they get what you say...the fact is, cheap fuel is what they want.

Sometimes I wonder how we Nigerians reason... we are already on queues fighting and quarreling to buy petrol at 300, yet we resist to allow it officially!

Well I trust Nigerian politicians, they will soon tell us that our petrol cargo shipments were attacked by russian forces, and the ensuring scarcity will force the price to 500/litre. It's a game of perching birds and aiming hunters!

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ugonology(m): 4:12pm On Mar 06, 2022
ugonology:

But this cheapness is it in price or in value?
Sometimes I wonder how we Nigerians reason... we are already on queues fighting and quarreling to buy petrol at 300, yet we resist to allow it officially!

Well I trust Nigerian politicians, they will soon tell us that our petrol cargo shipments were attacked by russian forces, and the ensuring scarcity will force the price to 500/litre. It's a game a perching birds and aiming hunters!
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by mmsen: 6:10pm On Mar 06, 2022
ugonology:
This is what you get when you try to run a country like a poultry farm, Where government provides subsidies on everything from petrol, education, agriculture to power generation and distribution to health care.

Subsidy is the reason why ASUU will always go on strike (students can't be paying 80$ per section and you expect government to handle the rest) socialist government structures like subsidies will always spell doom for any growing economy, look at Syria and Venezuela. 90% of Nigeria's problem is tied to the senseless spendings on 'hypocritical' subsidies that eventually get looted by the high and mighty.
Until we tell ourselves the truth, we will continue to suffer needlessly.

America and the EU subsidize their farmers/farm products. This is why it's so easy for them both to dump their agricultural produce on the rest of the world.

China subsidizes damn near its entire economy. Hence why it's so easy for them to crush businesses elsewhere.

The entire 'capitalist' system is built on 'subsidies'.
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by 1forall: 6:26pm On Mar 06, 2022
If so, then offset the cost increase with the revenue increase from sales, or how is that difficult? From $62 to $110 is $48/barrel excess, so what are they complaining about?

These guys are high level crooks just setting the stage for their continued looting of excess crude funds.
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ugonology(m): 6:29pm On Mar 06, 2022
mmsen:


America and the EU subsidize their farmers/farm products. This is why it's so easy for them both to dump their agricultural produce on the rest of the world.

China subsidizes damn near its entire economy. Hence why it's so easy for them to crush businesses elsewhere.

The entire 'capitalist' system is built on 'subsidies'.

No sir, infact subsidies are meant for developed nations, not third world poverty stricken countries with overburden debt profiles, countries that spend more than half their revenue servicing debt! Haba, where do we get the money from? Nigeria that is still struggling to construct bridges. These countries you mentioned have enough to spare, their systems are efficient, tax recovery is near 100%, how many people pay tax in Nigeria?

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Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by mmsen: 6:41pm On Mar 06, 2022
ugonology:


No sir, infact subsidies are meant for developed nations, not third world poverty stricken countries with overburden debt profiles, countries that spend more than half their revenue servicing debt! Haba, where do we get the money from? Nigeria that is still struggling to construct bridges. These countries you mentioned have enough to spare, their systems are efficient, tax recovery is near 100%, how many people pay tax in Nigeria?

China is not a 'developed' nation.

Education is subsidized in most countries, especially those with 100% literacy rates.

All that cheap rice that Thailand exports, you think it isn't subsidized?

Malaysia doesn't subsidize its agricultural output?

You think Vietnam does not provide subsidies for its manufacturing?

You are naive if you fail to understand that subsidies/public funds are used to build economies. Nigeria's debt profile isn't anywhere near as high as the above nations.

As to where Nigerians will get the money? Well, you people subsidize religion hence why at least 3 of the top ten wealthiest pentacostal pastors are Nigeria. As well as sponsoring religious travel.

Maybe if the Nigerian government prioritized things that matter then you might get better results but then the government is only a reflection of the populace and Nigerians are stupendously superstitious. You cannot expect the Nigerian government at any level to be rational when the people are so horrendously irrational. Fix that most basic issue first and then you might see some results.
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by ugonology(m): 7:15pm On Mar 06, 2022
mmsen:


China is not a 'developed' nation.

Education is subsidized in most countries, especially those with 100% literacy rates.

All that cheap rice that Thailand exports, you think it isn't subsidized?

Malaysia doesn't subsidize its agricultural output?


You think Vietnam does not provide subsidies for its manufacturing?

You are naive if you fail to understand that subsidies/public funds are used to build economies. Nigeria's debt profile isn't anywhere near as high as the above nations.

As to where Nigerians will get the money? Well, you people subsidize religion hence why at least 3 of the top ten wealthiest pentacostal pastors are Nigeria. As well as sponsoring religious travel.

Maybe if the Nigerian government prioritized things that matter then you might get better results but then the government is only a reflection of the populace and Nigerians are stupendously superstitious. You cannot expect the Nigerian government at any level to be rational when the people are so horrendously irrational. Fix that most basic issue first and then you might see some results.

China is not only 'a developing country' she is also the world's second largest economy. You keep mentioning Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, China...how many of them subsidies fuel importation? Oga, if subsidies are meant for economic growth and expansion like in all the countries you listed, then it is given to producers and manufacturers not importers whose activities have no positive impact on the economy like in our case of petroleum imports. If government gives subsidies to dangote refineries, it's completely different from when NNPC spend trillions importing refined petrol!!
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by mmsen: 7:18pm On Mar 06, 2022
ugonology:


China is not only 'a developing country' she is also the world's second largest economy. You keep mentioning Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, China...how many of them subsidies fuel importation? Oga, if subsidies are meant for economic growth and expansion like in all the countries you listed, then it is given to producers and manufacturers not importers whose activities have no positive impact on the economy like in our case of petroleum imports. If government gives subsidies to dangote refineries, it's completely different from when NNPC spend trillions importing refined petrol!!

My last paragraph covers that point. Nigerian government policy is foolish because Nigerians themselves are illogical.
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by jadyclem(m): 8:06pm On Mar 06, 2022
It seems nothing is designed in Nigeria to favour the masses. When oil price was low, everyone in government was lamenting about the low price and how there's no money that they had to increase the oil price of the local market and introduced multiple means of taxing us. We no complain because we understood the situation then.
Now oil price is very high and the same people have started lamenting again and complaining about subsidy. What's going on in this country? Why is it that the masses suffer in scarcity and also in plenty? Will there ever be a time where something good is going to happen in this country that majority of the masses will benefit from it?...
Re: Subsidy May Jump By 100% As FG’s Benchmark Oil Price Doubles by babajero(m): 3:08am On Mar 07, 2022
Bihar is the most dangerous thief in Nigeria.

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