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Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by tnerro1(m): 5:34pm On Mar 14, 2022
Incompetence everywhere
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by mummyz(m):
But no steady light before, have been on generator for the past three days and when ever I look at my kids at night I do tell them sorry because I gave birth to them in this country called Nigeria because nothing is working right.
etokhana:
https://guardian.ng/news/nigerias-epileptic-grid-collapses-plunges-country-into-darkness-again/
Mynd44
Lalasticlala
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by DrMuzungu(m): 5:36pm On Mar 14, 2022
Didn't Bullhari promise 24/7 electricity, if elected, back in 2015?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by martinmiller: 5:37pm On Mar 14, 2022
cheesy cheesy Nigerian's should brace up for divers problem that will keep running the country to the floor, all this sudden rise at all departments of the country are all campaign manifestos and promises come 2023. It can only become more worse.

After all there is nothing new, since 1999. I said it many times no country as ever prospered either without a great leader or a popular revolt. This current structure won't help the Nigerian environment and your leadership know this but they won't do jack about it because they all benefits from the dilapidated structures. It pays them and so it is not problems if the Nigerian citizens keep wallowing in abject poverty.

The problems of Nigeria's are Nigerian's.
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Nobody: 5:44pm On Mar 14, 2022
Brendaniel:
Run at loss how, I am paying 42k per month and I don't see up to 6hrs light, based on your calculation, how much should I pay to get 24hrs light, since you feel that I am not paying enough?
Right now I need 24hrs light, how do I get it?
I hate to say this, but you are not reperesentative of the whole country.

Plus we who pay suffer because of those who don't and because of the fact that the sector is not allowed to run at a profit.

Good evening. I end it here.
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Bimpe29(m): 5:46pm On Mar 14, 2022
Laggafin:
I want to sell my Nigerian passport for free.. sadplease whoever is interested should contact me
Is there market for it? Better Japa without much Ado
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Nobody: 5:46pm On Mar 14, 2022
Theunbothered:
Okay how much should we pay for power?

Please give us a figure so we can organise and stop wasting time with generators.
We pay what the power sector wants us to pay...which makes them earn enough of a profit to fix things.(We did that for the GSM sector, paid all they wanted us to pay, and they used the profit to build enough infrastructure to help us have things like home internet, and phones even in the villages.)

Would you love it if government set your prices to help the poor?
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by LZAA: 5:47pm On Mar 14, 2022
Backbencher2:
When you pay N20 to N60 for something that costs N53 to N80 to make, this is what you get.

No profits, bad service.

If you want power 24 seven, let the sector set its price so that money dey for more generation and better transmission.

You cannot pay 400 naira for a car.
Oga please shove your theories where the sun doesn't shine
Who forced government to introduce subsidy in the first place
Who instigated the masses to protest against subsidy removal in the past
Other countries dey run from IMF yet una dey follow dem headstrong
Smh
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Nobody: 5:50pm On Mar 14, 2022
LZAA:
Oga please shove your theories where the sun doesn't shine
Who forced government to introduce subsidy in the first place
Who instigated the masses to protest against subsidy removal in the past
Other countries dey run from IMF yet una dey follow dem headstrong
Smh
Okay, I hope you are enjoying selling coke in your shop at N20 so that poor people can 'enjoy coke' instead of the N200 recommended retail price.


Come to think of it, we are in the IMF 's trap because we insist on running deficit budgets to pay for subsides.

And the subsides are there because people like you and me want cheap power and cheap power.
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Brendaniel: 5:50pm On Mar 14, 2022
Backbencher2:
I hate to say this, but you are not reperesentative of the whole country.

Plus we who pay suffer because of those who don't and because of the fact that the sector is not allowed to run at a profit.

Good evening. I end it here.
Oga you have nothing to say, what is my fault for not having 24hrs light, I did every thing they told me to do, and I believe I am not the only one, since you say the solution is by increasing the tariff, what is my fault in all these, I didn't argue with them, but the light is still not 24hrs, what do you want me to do to have 24hrs light in Nigeria?
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Teaser4(m): 5:50pm On Mar 14, 2022
Laggafin:
It's obvious your virtual brain is no longer functioning
you’re a lowlife and a nobody… e pain am… you don chop today so

Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Innomach(m): 5:51pm On Mar 14, 2022
Backbencher2:
When you pay N20 to N60 for something that costs N53 to N80 to make, this is what you get.

No profits, bad service.

If you want power 24 seven, let the sector set its price so that money dey for more generation and better transmission.

You cannot pay 400 naira for a car.
The foundation is faulty. The way that organization and every other organizations in the country is structured and run, give them all the money in the world, they will embezzle it and everything will remain the same.
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by LZAA: 5:53pm On Mar 14, 2022
Backbencher2:
Okay, I hope you are enjoying selling coke in your shop at N20 so that poor people can 'enjoy coke' instead of the N200 recommended retail price.


Come to think of it, we are in the IMF 's trap because we insist on running deficit budgets to pay for subsides.
We are saying the same thing but you are yet to grasp that fact
No successful nation runs on a dutch economy
The bone of contention here is that even after all the subsidy removals the prices will stagnate or increase rather than go down
I saw u comparing GSM Companies and power stations and you said they made profits
Well they made profits because they sold lines and airtime at inflated rates
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Nobody: 5:53pm On Mar 14, 2022
Innomach:
The foundation is faulty. The way that organization and every other organizations in the country is structured and run, give them all the money in the world, they will embezzle it and everything will remain the same.
We have a working GSM sector because government does not set prices for them.

We don't have a working power sector because government does set prices for them, at a point where they cannot make a profit.

That's why no money to improve things.

Think man, if you were buying yam for N1000 and selling it at N1500 per tuber, and then government comes in and tells you to sell that yam you bought at N1000 at N300....tell me how would you make enough profit to pay your supplier, transporter and the farmer?
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Sonn(m): 5:56pm On Mar 14, 2022
Our current minister of power once told us that any serious government must fix power problems within six months,
Mr minister how many months gone under your watch as Nigerians continue to dwell in darkness since time immemorial?
How many times has our national grid collapsed under your watch?
Yeye people with Yeye ruling.
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Rawhumper(m): 5:59pm On Mar 14, 2022
Is Buhari reading our comments.....can
someone tell him posterity will remember him as a total failure

Its better we put rat in Aso rock than have such as our president.

Too bad the National Assembly is folding arms. angry




quote author=etokhana post=111031446]
https://guardian.ng/news/nigerias-epileptic-grid-collapses-plunges-country-into-darkness-again/
Mynd44
Lalasticlala[/quote]
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Nobody: 5:59pm On Mar 14, 2022
LZAA:
We are saying the same thing but you are yet to grasp that fact
No successful nation runs on a dutch economy
The bone of contention here is that even after all the subsidy removals the prices will stagnate or increase rather than go down
I saw u comparing GSM Companies and power stations and you said they made profits
Well they made profits because they sold lines and airtime at inflated rates
No, they sold lines ,made a stinking profit, and used it to plant antennas, and throw lines all over the place. To the point that we have internet at home, instead of it being non existent outside cafes in 2002.

The power sector has a problem because since 2013, government has been setting its prices, meaning it runs at a loss.

SIMPLE.

It's a painful truth, but the truth.

The following is from the PWC report Solving the liquidity crunch. Can be downloaded here

Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by samwheel(m): 6:02pm On Mar 14, 2022
Backbencher2:
Well when even with the increase , it is still below the cost of production, plus 30 to 40 percent of customers dont pay even with meters installed, what do you expect?

If you were a businessman and goverment set your prices in such a way.that you run at a loss and 40% customers don't pay, how would you run your business?
Baba, u keep talking as if no b dis same Nigeria again.
Even if 200% of d people start paying and we pay way above production cost, I can bet dat there will still b epileptic power supply.
What of all d oda sector dat isn't being subsided, are dey functional?
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Philistine(m): 6:04pm On Mar 14, 2022
Sonn:
Our current minister of power once told us that any serious government must fix power problems within six months,
Mr minister how many months gone under your watch as Nigerians continue to dwell in darkness since time immemorial?
How many times has our national grid collapsed under your watch?
Yeye people with Yeye ruling.
Are you living under the rock? Is fashola the minister of power?
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Nobody: 6:04pm On Mar 14, 2022
samwheel:
Baba, u keep talking as if no b dis same Nigeria again.
Even if 200% of d people start paying and we pay way above production cost, I can bet dat there will still b epileptic power supply.
Well, I can write this from home, instead of an internet cafe, because 100% of GSM subscrbers pay for their service...which is run at a profit, meaning the companies can pay for improvements.


What of all d oda sector dat isn't being subsided, are dey functional?
GSM gets no subsides, as does pay tv, and they work.
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by shara123(m): 6:04pm On Mar 14, 2022
Useless leaders! Ordinary electricity they cannot provide amidst all resources available
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by yemi1504: 6:10pm On Mar 14, 2022
TWoods:
They used to say education was the best legacy to your children. For Nigerians I think we should modify it, a foreign passport is a far better legacy.
You can say that again bro!
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by ebufa: 6:10pm On Mar 14, 2022
buckeyemedia:
No electricity here since 6am Thursday morning, so what is new?

Ironically the so called criminals you mentioned, is me & you.
ok feel free to vote another misfit, you people never learn!
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by openmine(m): 6:13pm On Mar 14, 2022
Brendaniel:
Let them make it 24 hours first, then tell people to pay, they have been increasing it without any improvement, so your theory does not hold waters at all, the new place I'm staying I was paying 4k when I moved in 2019 now I am paying N42,000 and the light got worse as they kept on increasing it and I kept on paying, so please the government here is at fault, so don't come and say rubbish about increment...

YOUR THEORY DOES NOT HOLD WATERS, CALL A SPADE A SPADE, BUHARI HAS FAILED...
Right from time his theory was flawed,insensitive & preposterous!
How can one pay for services not rendered?
Just imagine paying 42k and yet no power but someone will tell me I need to pay more to get the same service that has not been rendered...no be juju be that?
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by openmine(m): 6:14pm On Mar 14, 2022
Backbencher2:
When you pay N20 to N60 for something that costs N53 to N80 to make, this is what you get.

No profits, bad service.

If you want power 24 seven, let the sector set its price so that money dey for more generation and better transmission.

You cannot pay 400 naira for a car.

MODIFIED

Before anyone quotes me again, I advise them to read this....

SOLVING THE LIQUIDTY CRUNCH IN THE NIGERIAN POWER SECTOR

Google for it, and download it. And read it.

SUMMARY BELOW
Smh
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by samwheel(m): 6:14pm On Mar 14, 2022
Backbencher2:
Well, I can write this from home, instead of an internet cafe, because 100% of GSM subscrbers pay for their service...which is run at a profit, meaning the companies can pay for improvements.




GSM gets no subsides, as does pay tv, and they work.
Bro, I don't know aw Nigeria power sector works.
But one thing I can tell u is, wen company in a monopolistic context is given a contract that dat provides service to the nation, d government steps in to regulate dem, to make sure dey don't overcharge and oda stuffs.
D Gsm example you gave, there's no monopoly, anyone can easily switch to whatever service provider dey desire, d competition is high, thus, dey have to improve their services, likewise d TV service u mentioned.
But, with power, u can't pick who and who to supply u power.
One of d richest men I think in Brazil, had a monopoly for GSM service and their service was a mess till oda competitors stepped in
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by ebufa: 6:15pm On Mar 14, 2022
inoki247:
And dat stupid Fashola dey diz Govt we no hear anything from him...


What a clueless somebody dey always see Nigeria Problem from far...


Electricity is not a rocket science undecided undecided
What Buhari was trying to prove by overburdening Fashola with 3 critically key ministries Power, housing, and works? The failure of the Buhari administration is self induced....i wonder who he was trying to mock by that singular action!
Re: National Grid Collapses, Plunges Country Into Darkness Again by Nobody: 6:16pm On Mar 14, 2022
samwheel:
Bro, I don't know aw Nigeria power sector works.
But one thing I can tell u is, wen company in a monopolistic context is given a contract that dat provides service to the nation, d government steps in to regulate dem, to make sure dey don't overcharge and oda stuffs.
D Gsm example you gave, there's no monopoly, anyone can easily switch to whatever service provider dey desire, d competition is high, thus, dey have to improve their services, likewise d TV service u mentioned.
But, with power, u can't pick who and who to supply u power.
One of d richest men I think in Brazil, had a monopoly for GSM service and their service was a mess till oda competitors stepped in
Problem is not monopoly, but they operating at a loss because government said so.

Plus, other companies won't step in for the same reason. Why should I come in and do business, and government tells me how I must set my price? So that I won't have cash to improve and expand?

Reason why Glo and 9 mobile came in after MTN and Airtel is simple. Government was not setting prices in the GSM sector.
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