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| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by 5thcolm(m): 11:20pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
Russia economy apologists should know that the richest companies in the world are those that produces everyday life commodities and services. E.g Apple Google/alphabet Microsoft Amazon Tesla Nvidia Visa Samsung Etc. None of this companies are Russian company. Also, the top richest people are not into oil, they are into everyday commodities/services that people use around the world. Countries that produces everyday commodities/services are the richest in the world. Back to my question. What do you use in your everyday life that is Russia made? What percentage of your money goes to Russia made commodities? |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by GerogeI(m): 11:24pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
5thcolm:Your question is just a fallacy of argument, hiding behind demand for precise data. I just told you that half of all the bread you eat in Nigeria are from Rusiia, you start arguing that the other half comes from US. How is that relevant to Russian Production? I will give you the numbers you want if you can supply same numbers for your own consumptions from US. How much of your income do you spend on goods from US and not China, for you to be here arguing about how texas economy is bigger than Russia? The bitter truth is that the US has so depressed your currency that you can hardly afford anything produced with their local labour, but you wakeup here shouting about the size of their economy. Next time, specify if its the real economy or the virtual currency valued economy. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by Johnrake69: 11:25pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
Gertyman:Will the Europeans and Americans get the rubble for free? They will be parting with their Dollars or Euro to buy the Rubble. And who will have the dollars they part with? Same Russia so your logic doesn't add up. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by 5thcolm(m): 11:31pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
okorogbo:Bros. Yes Russia export those things but this other big countries like US, China, Japan Germany also have big market share into industry e.g Russia export 37million tonnes of wheat per year, but the US and Canada each exports 26 million tonnes per year. Other countries are not far behind. Weapon? US, China, France, UK have just as big export. Every Commodities Russia exports, other big countries have big market share too. Problem is there are lots of industries that Russia have have almost to none market share. Social companies Textile Automobile Telecommunications Airplane-- boeing/airbus And many more that Russia has zero or almost zero market share |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by donmik: 11:31pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
We know who will or has won a war in the aftermath of the war. For now, am just watching and praying all wars end for we here too to have peace. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by GerogeI(m): 11:35pm On Mar 23, 2022*. Modified: 4:49pm On Mar 24, 2022 |
5thcolm:You sound retrogressive in your thought. 1. Your list is full of tech companies that are US owned, but not necessarily producing their services in the US. 2. How many of those companies you listed do you use their products, and they are relevant to Nigeria for you to be calling them everyday products. Apple- you mean second hand iPhone Nigerians buys from computer village or how many Nigerians spend close to N1million to buy overpriced Ipad tablets that are actually made in China? Microsoft- we all use free Russian pirated Microsoft softwares from Windows to MS word. Ever heard of the Lavteam? Tesla- you must be kidding right. Everyday items that make US economy big. Visa- I hope you know its the branding and server network our banks pay for, and those servers are not likely in US. All the chips and cards are made in China. Samsung- A US company? Really. If they were, you won't be using them so much as you won't be able to afford them. It's a South Korean company and most of their products are made in China. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by 5thcolm(m): 11:37pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
GerogeI:You are wrong. Russia only export 17% of total world wheat export. US has 14% Canada has 14% France has 10% Ukraine has 8% Etc. Anything Russia does highest, many other countries like US are close. You know what we have things Russia has zero market share Phones - Russia 0% Textile - 0% Cars -0% Airplane- almost 0% Telecommunications- almost zero Techs like Google, Social media companies, etc - Russia almost 0% |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by 5thcolm(m): 11:39pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
GerogeI:I am talking about industries Russia has almost zero market share. Any industry Russia has big share, others have nearly as big. Reality will always win. If you like, lie to urself that the sky is purple. Your eyes will always tell you the truth. Every industry Russia export to Nigeria for example. The West is export just as much. But there are other things the west exports that Russia don't even export at all |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by GerogeI(m): 11:39pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
5thcolm:Bros, are you okay in the head. How does the fact that Venezuela also produces oil make Nigeria any less of a major oil producer? |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by 5thcolm(m): 11:46pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
GerogeI:But if Venezuela are major exporters of other things that Nigeria don't. Venezuela will have bigger economy than Nigeria. It's just common sense, not rocket science Venezuela economy will even be bigger if Nigeria exports only 17% total world oil and Venezuela exports 14%. 3% difference is small in the scheme of things |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by seunny4lif(m): 11:48pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
gambojimeta:Getting involve directly with troops or airstrikes is different from sending weapons, is what I mean. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by 3idiots: 11:53pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
nomenclature:You took it personal Boss, calm down no vex. All you said is true by the way. Forgive the guy, for he doesn't know what he is doing. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by Slimblood: 12:01am On Mar 24, 2022 |
naijapower:... y'all shouldn't be so blinded with the fact that y'all have been programmed from young to think US is supreme and are the good guys...una go just mumu dey follow CNN news dey come out come spit shit...the petrodollar system is the reason for Mu'ammar Gaddafi being slain..look what it brought upon libya...disaster! |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by okorogbo: 12:07am On Mar 24, 2022 |
5thcolm:You keep making one mistake that those western countries are an island and i won't blame you for that,that is what they have ingrained into peoples head. For evey thing the West export Russia has equivalent of that. Were you told that Americans import Russian gold and Diamond in commercial quantity? You talk of Communication,who laid the foundation of communication? is it not Russia through their Satellite called Sputnik 1? The largest Cargo plane uptil date was a Soviet union effort. I am not trying to tell you who is the best,but my point is that Trade is beneficial to all parties,the west shouldn't make it look as if Russia will cease to exist if they don't patronize them. For your information,India just ordered 3million barrel of oil from Russia 4 days ago and payment will be in roubles. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by OyeofIkoTuN(m): 12:07am On Mar 24, 2022 |
after your speech..it's either you froze to death or pay in ruble..Otherwise shut your trap and explain why you cannot afford 24hours electricity Hezzyluv: |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by plaindealer: 12:15am On Mar 24, 2022 |
[s] GerogeI:[/s] I'm not interested in your opinion and pointless essay, prove to us that Germany did not secure long term energy contracts with Qatar or that Germany did not dump Russian gas in favor of gas from Qatar. Keep your opinion to yourself.
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| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by grandstar(m): 12:23am On Mar 24, 2022 |
mployer:But they supply almost half the gas that the EU consume, most importantly, Germany. Germany is heavily dependent on natural gas from Russia for power after it was forced to shut down its nuclear power plants due to opposition to them from its citizens, after the Japanese earthquake in 2011. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by 5thcolm(m): 12:28am On Mar 24, 2022 |
okorogbo:What is Russia equivalent of the automobiles that the west exports? Russia created the biggest cargo plane but there not even close to boeing and airbus who exports and sells the most passenger airplane and cargo plane and have 83% of all planes used in the world today. You said Russia laid foundation for communication/satellite. Is Russia making money for laying foundation?lol. Russia is only third in amount of their Satellite in space 169, compare to China's 499 and the US 2900 satellites. Again, they are not even close. 3 millions barrel of oil ordered by India is small in the scheme of things of world economy. Don't forget India got heavy discount on the oil, it's a sign of desperation when you start selling your own goods on discount. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by 5thcolm(m): 12:33am On Mar 24, 2022 |
grandstar:Is like you don't know western europe don't have many people there to use much oil. For example Germany only uses 2.4 million barrel a day. Compared to the US using 19 million barrel a day. Whichever way, Russia is only selling oil on discount now. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by kushme: 1:00am On Mar 24, 2022*. Modified: 1:15am On Mar 24, 2022 |
AroleOduduwa2:You sabi book sir. Do people even know that, the sole mission of the BRICS countries is to reduce using dollars when they trade among themselves... |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by GerogeI(m): 1:09am On Mar 24, 2022 |
plaindealer:Too Dumb! Not sure this one is on planet earth. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by timay1: 1:15am On Mar 24, 2022 |
simplesearch:Once Russia rubble becomes acceptable on Int'l oil trade market, it t will also become acceptable for buying other commodities too because , they can easily sell it back to Russia via buying of petroleum products. So |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by Pacesetter123(m): 1:21am On Mar 24, 2022 |
Dpharisee: ![]() I tot US asked them (EU) to stop all transactions on energy sector with Russia? And that EU have stopped Nord stream 2 project with Russia? So they are still buying petroleum products from Russia till now? |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by Pacesetter123(m): 1:29am On Mar 24, 2022 |
27Pushing30:Leave this people,dem think say this nah theoretical economy weh dem dey teach dem for 9ja Unis be dis. Go to Spain n see protest about increase in petroleum products as the results of this sanctions on Russia by the West. Person dey dey here for 9ja dey ask weda na only dem dey supply gas. Even this 9ja man,Bankindo weh be SEC GEN for OPEC don talk say this Russia and West matter don disrupt world energy market. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by plaindealer: 1:41am On Mar 24, 2022 |
GerogeI:Only dumb people substitute facts with their ignorant and unintelligent personal opinion. Did Germany dump Russian gas with long-term energy contracts from Qatar, yes or no? WAEC F-9 result is too generous for you and your kind. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by sunboy(m): 2:03am On Mar 24, 2022 |
gambojimeta:It’s very hard for EU nations to cut off Russian energy. They have the cheapest gas, and they are the closest to them with pipelines existing for years. Buying and Shipping from Qatar will make it more expensive for the EU countries, and will in turn increase other costs. I’m sure they all will resolve their differences once the war is over and US will make it so that dollar remains the currency of choice. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by GerogeI(m): 2:10am On Mar 24, 2022 |
plaindealer:In which planet did you get your facts from? Mars? Google is your friend. |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by fortune1894(m): 4:46am On Mar 24, 2022 |
Hezzyluv:actually he get sense now Russian currency will pick up in value n those countries will be stockpiling it |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by ariesbull: 4:57am On Mar 24, 2022 |
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| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by seleroms2(m): 5:15am On Mar 24, 2022 |
Hezzyluv:E no get sense but see the effect https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10644173/Putin-declares-Russia-accept-roubles-payment-gas-unfriendly-countries.html?ito=whatsapp_share_article-bottom |
| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by plaindealer: 5:19am On Mar 24, 2022 |
GerogeI:The planet where intelligent people discuss with facts and credible news articles instead of silly, ignorant and pointless words of mouth and meaningless opinion. Google is your friend is what people say when they lack sensible things and facts to work with.
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| Re: Putin Wants Rubles For Russian Gas by OAUTemitayo: 6:02am On Mar 24, 2022 |
plaindealer:I know you are very intelligent. But you are very wrong here. European countries and China are locked in a trade war with price as a major issue. Qatar can only supply less than 10% of what Europe gets from Russia and it will be x3 of the price of Russia's gas. European manufacturers are already complaining bitterly, inflation is killing already. Rubble from 125/$ to 95/$ within two hours of Russia announcing it will be selling her gas in rubbles. If you are surprised at such a rocket gain, wait till next week when European countries start seeking for rubbles to pay for gas. The west has overplayed it's hand with the weaponisation of their currency. |
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