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Emusan:
If you have sense, you'd have seen this post of yours "is singularity" perhaps individuals but because no iota of sense up there, you won't see it.

Shame on you, Emusan LIENUS LYING is in your genes .
Acts 15:7-9,14 has exposed you !

Emusan:
If not because you're too dull, did I say God will pay EVERYONE with everlasting life?

Even 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 is still about individuals that is "ANYONE who rejected Christ."

My point is on John 20:31 which says "WHOSOEVER believe" not that you must belong to an organization

I know you lack simple comprehension.



But is John 20:31 about MY SERVANTS or what to do to have everlasting life?



The same servants that are still wicked at 2 chronicles 7:14

You forgot to pick your brain from Hall bah



I've dealt with those verses and the truth is that no one can be compared to John 20:31



It's evident you don't have any meaningful thing to say again.

Dangote isn't about John 20:31 or is it?

At least you can see beyond reasonable doubt that no organization was mentioned in the scripture as John 20:31, 3:16, 1:12 emphasize more on it.

[s]So follower of 8 old men idol worshipper relax your mind [/s]

This guy who calls himself Emusan is just too dull for this conversation.

Janosky:
Shame on you, Emusan LIENUS LYING is in your genes .
Acts 15:7-9,14 has exposed you !

At the meeting, after long discussion, Peter stood and addressed them as follows: “Brothers, you all know that God chose me from among you long ago to preach the Good News to the Gentiles so that they also could believe."

Emusan, Acts 15:7,14 is "Gentiles" singular term?

Is " they" singular?
Verse 9, is "them & " us" singular terms.
Verse 13, is " brothers " a singular term?

13 When they had finished, James took the floor. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Peter has told you about the time God first visited the Gentiles to take from them a people to bring honor to his name."

This guy who calls himself Emusan is just too dull for this conversation.

Emusan:
No wonder your blood is boiling

When your ignorance always put you in big shame.

The point isn't there are not PEOPLE for God but are we having EVERLASTING LIFE through people/organization/group? Or must we belong to an organization/group before we have everlasting life?

So you can see how dull you are!

Was Paul at John 9:4?

Did Paul join the "WE/People" of John 9:4 & Acts 15:14?
Did Cornelius join the People bearing JEHOVAH'S name @ Acts15:14?

Paul and Cornelius get SENSE pass Emusan and all 3 deities Polytheists.
Emusan too dull . Chai

Emusan:
I know this will happen and the reason I keep it low at first

Calling you JaNosense, is a hit point for a reason

Now here is my point of singularity about your post

Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news, Acts15:7-9, IS chosen to bear Jehovah's name,Acts 15:14-17

Only if your dull brain will allow you to understand the @underlined

Like I said, you can keep bringing tons of verses you like but never will they match John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31.

Besides, my main point here, is that we don't need to belong to organization/group to have everlasting life.

According to John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31

Everyone who believes in John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31 joins the Group/People of John 9:4 & Acts 15:14.
Polytheists brains can't comprehend that.

Emusan:
That is why I gave you a hint how watchtower can twist John 3:16 as they usually do to other scripture like this "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only group/organization, that my chosen people will believe in them and shall not perish but have eternal life."

I didn't see WHOSOEVER BELIEVE in a group/organization will have everlasting life here
Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news, Acts15:7-9, IS chosen to bear Jehovah's name,Acts 15:14-17

Emusan:
The thing dey pepper this worshipper of 8 old men in Brooklyn for body

After JaNosense has been shifting from verse to verses about single verse John 20:31he earlier quoted but still couldn't find having everlasting life through organization

Janosky:
Was Paul at John 9:4?

Did Paul join the "WE/People" of John 9:4 & Acts 15:14?
Did Cornelius join the People bearing JEHOVAH'S name @ Acts15:14?

Paul and Cornelius get SENSE pass Emusan and all 3 deities Polytheists.
Emusan too dull . Chai

Everyone who believes in John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31 joins the Group/People of John 9:4 & Acts 15:14.
Polytheists brains can't comprehend that.

Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news joins the Organization , Group/People chosen to bear Jehovah's name.
Examples Paul, Cornelius, Timothy, Moses to etc.

Was Paul at John 9:4?
Was Cornelius at John 9:4?
No!

They joined the "WE/"People of Acts 15:14 chosen to bear Jehovah's name.
Oga, copy their examples.

Emusan & 3 deities Polytheists just pay lip service to the holy scriptures.

They always argue against Jesus Christ & the holy scriptures.
TUEH!!!!

Techguy96:
99 percent of christians in Nigeria don't even know what the council of nicea is or care to know.
They don't know the history of the religion they practice or how the bible was canonized.

They just practice these false religion imposed on them by their colonial masters.

tomakint:
The Mistakes Of Constantine That Birthed The Trinity Doctrine, Paganism With Christianity!


God is Supreme and He Alone Is One but how come some Christians refer to Jesus Christ as the Almighty God (Yahweh) When the Bible never said so. Below is my take with references from the Holy Scriptures why the doctrine of Trinity should not be adopted as a means of referencing the Godhead because of its origin;

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" (Deuteronomy 6:4)

"I Saw In The Night Visions, And, Behold, One Like The Son Of Man (Jesus Christ) Came With The Clouds Of Heaven, And Came To The Ancient Of Days (God Almighty Father, Yahweh), And They Brought Him Near Before Him." (Daniel 7: 13)

"The Revelation Of Jesus Christ, Which God (Yahweh, Jehovah) Gave Unto Him, To Shew Unto His Servants Things Which Must Shortly Come To Pass; And He Sent And Signified It By His Angel Unto His Servant John:" (Revelation 1:1)

"Jesus Said Unto Them, If God Were Your Father, Ye Would Love Me: For I proceeded Forth And Came From God (Yahweh); Neither Came I Of Myself, But He Sent Me." (John 8: 42) 

How Come Trinitarians Are Preaching Three Gods With Equal Powers And Strength When The Bible Never Said So. What Do You Believe? Bible Never Calls Jesus As God Almighty But Calls Him Only Begotten Son Of God Who Is Subservient To God Almighty And Was Sent By God To Redeem All Mankind To God Almighty By The Shedding Of His Precious Blood As Instructed By The Ancient Of Days.

Origin of the Doctrine of Trinity

Did you care to know the origin of trinity and what it stands for? I guess you don't know, let me help you:


"What occurred at the Council of Nicea?"

The Council of Nicea took place in AD 325 by order of the Roman Emperor Caesar Flavius Constantine. Nicea was located in Asia Minor, east of Constantinople. At the Council of Nicea, Emperor Constantine presided over a group of church bishops and other leaders with the purpose of defining the nature of God for all of Christianity and eliminating confusion, controversy, and contention within the church. The Council of Nicea overwhelmingly affirmed the deity and eternality of Jesus Christ and defined the relationship between the Father and the Son as “of one substance.” It also affirmed the Trinity—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were listed as three co-equal and co-eternal Persons.

Constantine, who claimed conversion to Christianity, called for a meeting of bishops to be held in Nicea to resolve some escalating controversies among the church leadership. The issues being debated included the nature of Jesus Christ, the proper date to celebrate Easter, and other matters. The failing Roman Empire, now under Constantine’s rule, could not withstand the division caused by years of hard-fought, “out of hand” arguing over doctrinal differences. The emperor saw the quarrels within the church not only as a threat to Christianity but as a threat to society as well. Therefore, at the Council of Nicea, Constantine encouraged the church leaders to settle their internal disagreements and become Christlike agents who could bring new life to a troubled empire. Constantine felt “called” to use his authority to help bring about unity, peace, and love within the church.

The main theological issue had always been about Christ. Since the end of the apostolic age, Christians had begun debating these questions: Who is the Christ? Is He more divine than human or more human than divine? Was Jesus created or begotten? Being the Son of God, is He co-equal and co-eternal with the Father, or is He lower in status than the Father? Is the Father the one true God, or are the Father, Son, and Spirit the one true God?

A priest named Arius presented his argument that Jesus Christ was not an eternal being, that He was created at a certain point in time by the Father. Bishops such as Alexander and the deacon Athanasius argued the opposite position: that Jesus Christ is eternal, just like the Father is. It was an argument pitting trinitarianism against monarchianism.

Constantine prodded the 300 bishops in the council make a decision by majority vote defining who Jesus Christ is. The statement of doctrine they produced was one that all of Christianity would follow and obey, called the “Nicene Creed.” This creed was upheld by the church and enforced by the Emperor. The bishops at Nicea voted to make the full deity of Christ the accepted position of the church. The Council of Nicea upheld the doctrine of Christ’s true divinity, rejecting Arius’s heresy. The council did not invent this doctrine. Rather, it only recognized what the Bible already taught.

The New Testament teaches that Jesus the Messiah should be worshipped, which is to say He is co-equal with God. The New Testament forbids the worship of angels (Colossians 2:18; Revelation 22:8, 9) but commands worship of Jesus. The apostle Paul tells us that “in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form” (Colossians 2:9; 1:19). Paul declares Jesus as Lord and the One to whom a person must pray for salvation (Romans 10:9-13; cf. Joel 2:32). “Jesus is God overall” (Romans 9:5) and our God and Savior (Titus 2:13). Faith in Jesus’ deity is basic to Paul’s theology.

John’s Gospel declares Jesus to be the divine, eternal Logos, the agent of creation and source of life and light (John 1:1-5,9); "the Way, the Truth, and the Life" (John 14:6); our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1-2); the Sovereign (Revelation 1:5); and the Son of God from the beginning to the end (Revelation 22:13). The author of Hebrews reveals the deity of Jesus through His perfection as the most high priest (Hebrews 1; Hebrews 7:1-3). The divine-human Savior is the Christian’s object of faith, hope, and love.

The Council of Nicea did not invent the doctrine of the deity of Christ. Rather, the Council of Nicea affirmed the apostles’ teaching of who Christ is—the one true God and the Second Person of the Trinity, with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

N.B: It is not known why the term "Trinity" was adopted by these 300 Bishops assembled by Constantine the Great, because throughout the Biblical teachings through the Prophets and other writers until the time of Christ manifestations there was no concrete expository teachings in the Bible equating the power of Christ to God Almighty either in substance or in authority but that these two personalities are different and distinct beings with a clear definition of superiority from God Almighty (Yahweh) to Jesus Christ (God's Almighty Only  Begotten Son), sent from above, which was clearly against their positions at this meeting on Trinity. One unique outcome from this Episcopal meeting at the Council of Nicea is that, Jesus Christ remains a Divine Being that deserves to be worshipped as mandated upon him by His Father in Heaven, God Almighty. 

"Who was Constantine the Great?"

Constantine the Great (AD 280—337) was one of Rome’s most powerful and successful emperors and the first to self-identify as a Christian. He is known for his economic, political, and military achievements, as well as his religious reforms. Medieval writers praised him as the ideal ruler, against whom all kings were measured. Over time, his reign was viewed with waning enthusiasm. Historians also began to debate how committed Constantine was to Christianity or how devoutly he actually followed it. Constantine was influential in Christian history for his personal faith, religious politics, issuing the Edict of Milan, and calling the Council of Nicea.

Constantine was the son of a Roman official and his Christian concubine. This placed him in line to succeed the throne of the Western Roman Empire. At age 31, he prepared to attack his chief rival with an army outnumbered 4-to-1. Before the battle, Constantine claimed to have seen a vision of Jesus, with a specific symbol, telling him, “By this sign, conquer.” Constantine ordered his troops to mark their shields with this symbol, the Chi-Rho, then a symbol commonly representing Christianity. The Chi-Rho combines the first two letters in the Greek word for “Christ” and resembles a capital P with an X drawn through the spine. Constantine’s forces routed the enemy, and he became emperor. The Chi-Rho symbol would be part of Constantine’s personal signature for the rest of his life.

As emperor, Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, which declared Roman citizens free to worship whatever gods they chose. The Edict of Milan ended longstanding persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire. At that time, Constantine did not (yet) claim to be a Christian himself, nor did he advocate for an official state religion. Based on his continued use of certain pagan symbols, scholars believe Constantine’s early religion was generally theistic, rather than specifically Christian. His boldness in using Christian language grew during his reign. After assuming control of the entire Roman Empire, he built lavish churches and came to openly espouse Christianity.

During Constantine’s reign, controversy arose over the teachings of Arius, who denied the full divinity of Jesus. Constantine called a meeting of Christian bishops, the Council of Nicea, to settle the dispute. Contrary to popular myth, this meeting did not discuss the canon of the Bible, nor was Constantine influential in the council’s decisions. Emperors saw themselves as responsible for promoting “correct” forms of worship; Constantine’s interest was not to declare orthodoxy but to let the bishops determine it so that he could enforce it. Further, Constantine was not known for his philosophical ability and found himself lost in deeper discussions of theology. Rather, he acted as the council’s mediator and host, roles at which he excelled.

Constantine’s Christian faith has frequently been critiqued, if not questioned outright. On one hand, he made great strides in securing political and social rights for Christians and initiating general humanitarian reforms. He poured time and money into building churches and publicly supporting Christianity. Particularly toward the end of his reign, Constantine vocally professed faith in Christ and credited his success to God. He was baptized shortly before his death, according to the common practice of his time.

On the other hand, Constantine continued many pagan practices, including veneration of the sun. His interest in Christian orthodoxy was motivated primarily by a desire to maintain social order. There are also reasons to suspect that Constantine was as ruthless toward rivals as prior emperors had been. One of his sons, a brother-in-law, and his second wife were executed for reasons still unknown. He freely blended pagan practices with Christian beliefs, leading scholars to suggest his public adoption of Christianity might have been a savvy political move, linking him to a rising social force in the Roman Empire.

Ultimately, whether Constantine was a committed Christian, a shrewd, Christian-friendly politician, or something in between is an open question. Without doubt, he ended centuries of persecution and greatly enhanced the social standing of Christianity. He committed resources to churches and Christian education, and his leadership helped to clarify important Christian doctrines. However, Constantine’s actions resulted in some negative complications. Free from persecution, the church naturally attracted more false converts. The melding of Christian themes with secular politics set a pattern that contributed to later disasters such as the Inquisition and the Crusades. Constantine’s blending of pagan, building-and-priest-centered worship with Christianity also contributed to the rise of Roman Catholicism.

Constantine’s legacy is complex and not wholly understood, but he stands as one of the dominant figures in Christian history. Without doubt, his influence transformed Christianity from a persecuted minority into the eventual state religion of the Roman Empire and the most widespread faith in history.

Knowing who Emperor Flavius Constantine was and his beliefs according to his history will tell the Church clearly what is the Bible standpoint on some teachings before the outcome of the Council of Nicea as advocated for and supported by the Emperor. 

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