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AreaFada2:
Please let's be objective.

Awo said that Nigeria is a mere geographical expression. Meaning he knew that we will never be united as a nation. He wanted secession written in our constitution. Zik, born in Zungeru/Niger State and was with Herbert Macaulay in politics in Lagos saw himself as a true Nigeria and opposed secession. Zik won when the British favoured Ziks argument. Thereafter Awo mainly championed Yoruba interest just like Ahmadu Bello championed Hausa-Fulani interest in the North.

Having tasted Hausa-Fulani wrath/imprisonment following Witie crisis, Awo had to play it cool knowing that the North now held 9ja by the balls and will not let go. His best achievement remained his time as Western Premier, especially in education/infrastructure. Awo was never a nationalist. He was too much of a realist and pragmatist for that. He understood 9ja too much. He knew that North and South were worlds apart. Only good old Zik the dreamer was a true nationalist/pan-Africanist. Bless him.

In all, Awo actually lost out just like Zik. Brilliant people who never got to lead 9ja. Their loss remain our eternal loss as a nation though. At least both lived until the end of their natural life. Bello died violently 20 years before Awo and almost 30 years before Zik. But Bello left behind Dan Fodio political philosophy that still drives Northern hegemony till today.

Awo alone, however good as president or prime minister, could not have changed anything if those who followed behind would not sustain his good deeds. Unless he was in power for around 25 years and remained good. 9ja people too stubborn. We sha nor serious.

What made Awolowo join Gowon for the civil war instead of secession like Biafra

InvertedHammer:
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That same argument would be made if Obasanjo (fresh from prison) wasn't made President in 1999. The same way people felt about Abiola. If anything, the euphoria that followed the election of folks like Rochas as Imo State governor and Buhari as the President of Nigeria should be enough to tell us that we can only fantasize about what could have been. But fantasy and reality run parallel.
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They run parallel if the people are not interested and working their own part of the equation.

Nicequote author=OgunkeelAllMod post=111421859]I gotta say I have respect for chief Awo, the sage,a pure and true pan- africanist , erudite educationist, politician par excellence, no lie .this was a man tiffnubu model his political career after ,even copying and adopting Awo trademark round lens glasses..thereby enabling the criminal to Hoodwinked most part of yorrobanza South Wasted land, riding on Awo legacies to fool those Amala and ewedu guzzling morons to office twice.i Stil remember seeing his (TIFFNUBU)massive billboard around ikeja along , sporting an image of him and Awo side by side with the caption:Great Mind Thinks Alike .. little did they know tiffnubu had no such nobility in him, little did they know he was just a common thief ,an opportunist and betrayal of trust .the like of mko learned in a hard way though.my only issue with is that he should have man up and stayed the fukk outta the Biafran crisis then and at least remained neutral instead of working along with the useless, brainless, violent oligarch north.even he himself regretted his involvement to his dying day .and not that he took poison whatever pls .he realized two major things.his yorrobanza cowards people are born betrayal and not really worth defending.he lost the bid for presidency.third he finally realized that the zoo he's trying to be it leader is really NO COUNTRY but a fraud , skewed to favor a certain region over the rest,hence,his famous quote describing Nigeria as mere geographical expression ,failed Britain experiment,a complete disaster , filled with the most useless, backward, retrogressive animals known anywhere on planet Earth.He knew for a certainty..that the country will NEVER work[/quote]Nice one bro

OgunkeelAllMod:
I gotta say I have respect for chief Awo, the sage,a pure and true pan- africanist , erudite educationist, politician par excellence, no lie .this was a man tiffnubu model his political career after ,even copying and adopting Awo trademark round lens glasses..thereby enabling the criminal to Hoodwinked most part of yorrobanza South Wasted land, riding on Awo legacies to fool those Amala and ewedu guzzling morons to office twice.i Stil remember seeing his (TIFFNUBU)massive billboard around ikeja along , sporting an image of him and Awo side by side with the caption:Great Mind Thinks Alike .. little did they know tiffnubu had no such nobility in him, little did they know he was just a common thief ,an opportunist and betrayal of trust .the like of mko learned in a hard way though.my only issue with is that he should have man up and stayed the fukk outta the Biafran crisis then and at least remained neutral instead of working along with the useless, brainless, violent oligarch north.even he himself regretted his involvement to his dying day .and not that he took poison whatever pls .he realized two major things.his yorrobanza cowards people are born betrayal and not really worth defending.he lost the bid for presidency.third he finally realized that the zoo he's trying to be it leader is really NO COUNTRY but a fraud , skewed to favor a certain region over the rest,hence,his famous quote describing Nigeria as mere geographical expression ,failed Britain experiment,a complete disaster , filled with the most useless, backward, retrogressive animals known anywhere on planet Earth.He knew for a certainty..that the country will NEVER work

Nice one bro

DigitalStepdad:
hmmm remember even moses was a murderer

Jesus and the Apostles were not Murderers

anonimi:
What made Awolowo join Gowon for the civil war instead of secession like Biafra

He did it because of the fulfilled promise of Gowon making him the finance minister and for other political reasons which were in his interest! He was the originator of true large scale corruption in Nigeria. He never had the interest of the Yorubas at heart and was swayed into selling The Yorụ̀bá Nation to the North despite being helped out of prison by Odumegwu Ojukwu where he has been for two years for corrupt practices. Ojukwu had wanted him to declare the Yorụ̀bá nation so that Nigeria would be split into three nations ; Arewa, Yorụ̀bá and Biafra.

After the civil war, being the finance minister, Awolowo never returned the wealth of Igbos that were in the bank, instead he gave a few Igbos £20.00 with the unfulfilled promise of looking into their true financial networth domiciled in the bank. This was why the Igbos lost out during the first industrial indigenization in Nigeria.


Feel free to respectfully correct my recount, make me see from a different perspective, or I will not reply

Christistruth00:
Jesus and the Apostles were not Murderers

you dont know about them beyond what you read .... what happened durings the teenage life of Jesus? And the apostles are not pure eigher ... All have sined remeber

kingjis:
He was a coward for not staying alive and pushing through the problems that he had. He decided to take the easy way out.

We don't seal to be rich,we work hard for our wealth..The record are there for you to see lol

Afonjas and betrayal are like five and six

Their god of cowardice will cry here today again in his grave. lol

Was that why azikwe wanted to premier over west? And you imps would be shouting victimization when it was your forbear that started it.

Precambrian111:
. Visionary indeed greed n cunning man infact give me a Awo name I will proof how the greed and jealousy started in Nigeria shameless people

Yes azikwe wasn't greedy when he was vying to be premier of the western region back then right?

brainycaleb:
He did it because of the fulfilled promise of Gowon making him the finance minister and for other political reasons which were in his interest! He was the originator of true large scale corruption in Nigeria. He never had the interest of the Yorubas at heart and was swayed into selling The Yorụ̀bá Nation to the North despite being helped out of prison by Odumegwu Ojukwu where he has been for two years for corrupt practices.

Can you please provide reference for the bold part above?
Thanks.

DigitalStepdad:
you dont know about them beyond what you read .... what happened durings the teenage life of Jesus? And the apostles are not pure eigher ... All have sined remeber

Study the Scriptures Properly

christistruth01:
Study the Scriptures Properly

you think?

Spandau:
Bye bye dunce

You did the right thing by not replying the slowpoke furthermore. I've seen it from his comment that he doesn't worth it.
Kudos to you.

I would rather say, he saw exactly what Odumegwu saw, that Nigeria is a scam and was only created for the colonial master to continue systematic pilferage of her resources. He wanted a Yoruba nation, likewise Ikemba wanted Biafra, but the Arewastan region with no vision wanted Nigeria and the rest is history.

yemmit90:
Exactly, he was the only visionary leader Nigeria has ever produced. He would've been successful if not for his too much love for south west and regional politics.

This is what differentiates him and Tinubu. Unlike Tinubu flexible/accommodating style, Awo political ideology is too rigid, conservative, and meritocratic for the then corrupt military government to have confidence in.

BSdetective:
Awo the visionary. If I had the means I'd buy this car and keep it in my collection.

the Rat poison companies have bought it already.

anonimi:
What made Awolowo join Gowon for the civil war instead of secession like Biafra

Read the part where I wrote that after tasting the wrath/imprisonment of the North, he knew that the North held 9ja by the balls and will not let go. Awo also saw possible annihilation of Igbo, whose leader Zik was in coalition with Northerners before the coup. Displacing Igbo means more opportunity for Yoruba, an advantage Yoruba people have retained till today as the North continue to mistrust Igbo due to January 1966 coup and Biafra declaration.

Remember Awo was only truly interested in Yoruba issue. It was pragmatism and not being a nationalist. Remember too that while in prison Awo had lost political influence to SLK (who supported Balewa's FG-that imprisoned Awo). SLK had just been killed in the coup.

Even if Awo wanted secession when Biafra declared independence, he could not have convinced Yoruba leaders to join him. Western Region was seriously divided, the reason Awo could be so easily bundled into prison by FG in the first place.

Christistruth00:
Awolowo and Azikiwe requested for independence at least 20 years too early

But they meant well
Ahmadu Bello was more realistic when he admitted that the North was not ready for independence

With hindsight even the South was not ready for independence at the time

Dude, the south was very ready. The problem was that leadership was handed to the NORTH that wasn't ready.

AreaFada2:
Read the part where I wrote that after tasting the wrath/imprisonment of the North, he knew that the North held 9ja by the balls and will not let go. Awo also saw possible annihilation of Igbo, whose leader Zik was in coalition with Northerners before the coup. Displacing Igbo means more opportunity for Yoruba, an advantage Yoruba people have retained till today as the North continue to mistrust Igbo due to January 1966 coup and Biafra declaration.

Remember Awo was only truly interested in Yoruba issue. It was pragmatism and not being a nationalist. Remember too that while in prison Awo had lost political influence to SLK (who supported Balewa's FG-that imprisoned Awo). SLK had just been killed in the coup.

Even if Awo wanted secession when Biafra declared independence, he could not have convinced Yoruba leaders to join him. Western Region was seriously divided, the reason Awo could be so easily bundled into prison by FG in the first place.

A long list of excuses for Awolowo’s failure in this regard.
Just like Azikiwe and the Igbos who thought they would be champions of this Luggardian amalgam fought the civil war of secession and are now doing it again, so also Yorubas who missed the separation train before independence like Pakistanis and Bangladeshis did with India, and missed the Biafra opportunity, are now struggling to get out of this unequal merger of 1914.
All in all, the Fulanis know how to pay the price for our leaders’ loyalty until they are no longer useful to them.

olas24u:
Lies ,igbos hated him so much ,azikiwe was so jealous of his achievement ,he went to patner with northners ,they all made it impossible for him to get to rule Nigeria and replicate the same thing.He was a great man,he built all those things you see today with cocoa money.First tallest building in west Africa cocoa house,first television station,the current Nigeria house in london is cocoa money NTA formely wntv was cocoa money.

Aje..



Thans, love those that talk with sense and not those that say trash...


God bless you

Spandau:
Bye bye dunce

yourba god of cowardice will cry here today again in awolowos grave. lol

Nyanmiridunce:
Was that why azikwe wanted to premier over west? And you imps would be shouting victimization when it was your forbear that started it.

Imps like your parents

yourba god of cowardice will cry here today again in awolowos grave. lol

kingjis:
yourba god of cowardice will cry here today again in awolowos grave. lol

Says the King of Mooks.

kingjis:
Imps like your parents

yourba god of cowardice will cry here today again in awolowos grave. lol

Ojukwu inside his wife short gown who ran to ivory coast was what?

Nyanmiridunce:
Ojukwu inside his wife short gown who ran to ivory coast was what?

awolowo the coward that took he's on life , because of a back stabbing

Lol

Spandau:
Says the King of Mooks.

I see your parents mooks in you
Lol

kingjis:
awolowo the coward that took he's on life , because of a back stabbing

Lol

He backstabbed your father àbi? And na your family sold the poison for him too I guess. The poison effect is manifesting in you sef.

Nyanmiridunce:
He backstabbed your father àbi? And na your family sold the poison for him too I guess. The poison effect is manifesting in you sef.

Ojukwu ran away with your mother abi? And na your family give house where e stay for ivory coast I guess. The lashing wey OJ give your mama dey disturb you

[quote author=Nyanmiridunce post=111451037]Ojukwu inside his wife short gown who ran to ivory coast was what? [/quote


awolowo In side his wife short gown drank rat poison and went to hell lol

[quote author=anonimi post=111447457]A

anonimi:
A long list of excuses for Awolowo’s failure in this regard.
Just like Azikiwe and the Igbos who thought they would be champions of this Luggardian amalgam fought the civil war of secession and are now doing it again, so also Yorubas who missed the separation train before independence like Pakistanis and Bangladeshis did with India, and missed the Biafra opportunity, are now struggling to get out of this unequal merger of 1914.
All in all, the Fulanis know how to pay the price for our leaders’ loyalty until they are no longer useful to them.

Well, Awo is not here to give us his exact reasons, neither is Zik. Fact is our early leaders were pretty naive. Enahoro admitted later in life that back then they did fight for independence but didn't realise the herculean challenge it would be to rule or something along those lines. Simply, they believed that once the British were gone, Africans would be able to work together amicably. They didn't plan to rule. Manifesto for agriculture, education, infrastructure and such were not enough when unity was elusive so early on after independence.

Even today Southern leaders are scrambling for crumbs from Northern table. They are begging the North just to be allowed to be president. Even if a Southerner is president, the North hold all the ace cards. So what have we Southerners learnt from Awo's and Zik's failures even with the benefit of hindsight that they didn't have 60 years ago? Nothing! That puts Awo & Zik way ahead of any Southern leader that came behind them.

At this rate, I can't see Biafra, Oduduwa Republic or ND Republic being particularly successful if they were to split. Not due to lack of resources or talent or whatever. Nigeria has super corrupted people too much. A corrupt politician will not suddenly become different because he is now in a new country. No, he won't. States are mini-countries in today's 9ja. Has it stopped governors from being corrupt? No! Split to satisfy ethno-nationalistic yearnings? Yeah. By all means. A panacea for success? No! South Sudan is a good example.

CanadaOrBust:
There is oil then there is oil. Oil boom in Nigeria occurred well after the British left. And even first measly oil production in 1958 occurred well after the British had already committed and promised to leav

2 years is a long time in politics my guy

e. If it wasn’t for the oil boom Nigeria would have gladly let Eastern Nigeria go or at least have a confederation. East would not have been worth fighting for.

Facts

Same way, if Britain were in charge when oil boom arrived they would NEVER have left, unless they totally detest tons of cash, which we know they don’t!

who is a fool

kingjis:
He was a coward for not staying alive and pushing through the problems that he had. He decided to take the easy way out.

Potato potahto
No easy way when you're held for treason to rubbish your legacy.


Then..... Not now wen nobody send

Afonjas and betrayal are like five and six

Nyamiri betrayed awo and joined npn
Ekweme same
Jonathan same
Even last election 5% only voted for apc
It is you guys that have consistently betrayed the west

Their god of cowardice will cry here today again in his grave. lol

Defeated you in biafra so looks like you are the cowards who all run away to Lagos and other places but never build your homes