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Jodera:
is fullback not part of defenders again?

Maybe we need lecture on tactics this morning because if you call full back defender when they attack they become attacker too ABI?

50d33q:
Maybe we need lecture on tactics this morning because if you call full back defender when they attack they become attacker too ABI?

So Trent Alexander Arnold is an attacker?

50d33q:
Guy have you seen Salah, saka, mane, auba play midfield
You know ESR is a midfielder and not an attacker,the only players EPL regard as forward are the cfs

I'm not doubting ESR is a Midfielder as per default but I'm talking specifically about this season what he played as. He's an attacker, only on one or 2 occasions he played in midfield this season. So automatically this season he's an attacker and that's one of the reasons he got that goals he had and not because he played midfield as you and Blueray are making us to believe.

If in 2022/2023 season Ben White start playing the striking role will you call him a defender the next season? Firmino for example is a Midfielder by default(before klopp consistently played him as a CF) but even Blueray calls him a non-scoring striker cos of the role he was positioned and I never countered him that he wasn't an attacker (or a striker)

50d33q:
Maybe we need lecture on tactics this morning because if you call full back defender when they attack they become attacker too ABI?

Maybe you need to teach me/us (not just me I'm sure) something new cos this is the first time in my entire football history that I'm hearing a fullback isn't a defender at all.

Maybe you're mistaken Defenders as only CBs.

BlueMann:
So Trent Alexander Arnold is an attacker?

Lol, maybe he knows something we don't.

BlueMann:
So Trent Alexander Arnold is an attacker?

As he played as a full back
Is Victor Moses a defender
Is saka a defender
Is perisic a defender, Douglas Costa, this juve Brazilian guy with afro
Are they all defenders

Jodera:
I'm not doubting ESR is a Midfielder as per default but I'm talking specifically about this season what he played as. He's an attacker, only on one or 2 occasions he played in midfield this season. So automatically this season he's an attacker and that's one of the reasons he got that goals he had and not because he played midfield as you and Blueray are making us to believe.

If in 2022/2023 season Ben White start playing the striking role will you call him a defender the next season? Firmino for example is a Midfielder by default(before klopp consistently played him as a CF) but even Blueray calls him a non-scoring striker cos of the role he was positioned and I never countered him that he wasn't an attacker (or a striker)

Bros majority of ESR matches have been from the midfield, just 3 he played as SS(Cane in against westham), CF(against city thunder fire arteta ) and LW(replaced martinelli our last match)
Do you still want proof

50d33q:
Defense is okay too attack worse

So it's defense and midfield that's helping us na.

50d33q:
Guy have you seen Salah, saka, mane, auba play midfield
You know ESR is a midfielder and not an attacker, the only players EPL regard as forward are the cfs

This is correct.

50d33q:
As he played as a full back
Is Victor Moses a defender
Is saka a defender
Is perisic a defender, Douglas Costa, this juve Brazilian guy with afro
Are they all defenders

Sir whaaat? You gotta be playing right now

So what is he? An attacker? A right winger?

That means Robertson is a left winger?

Just because they are given license to roam forward and they spend a lot of time in the opposition half, doesn't mean they're attackers. It's just an attestation to the dual roles of a modern day fullback, especially one that plays in a dominant system like Liverpool's where fullbacks are a chief source of chance creation.

Jodera:
Maybe you need to teach me/us (not just me I'm sure) something new cos this is the first time in my entire football history that I'm hearing a fullback isn't a defender at all.

Maybe you're mistaken Defenders as only CBs.

Most likely.

@Jodera and 50d33q

The argument you are having is what I have tried to point out long before now.

We must understand that there is a difference between defenders and defending, same as attacker and attacking.

Also we must understand that in today's football tactics, you are either an attacker or a defender. There is no more term as midfielder unless you want to be specific.

In other words, a player is either an attacker or a defender. A midfielder who attacks is an attacker. A midfielder who defends is a defender.

If what you are talking about are forwards then it's the front two/three/four as the case may be. If you are talking about centre forwards or striker, then it's the guy playing top.

In summary,

Attackers include strikers, AM, wingers, etc.

Defenders include CBs, FBs, wingbacks, DMs, CMs etc.

Forwards: Strikers, wingers.

BlueRayDick:
I saw the news, I just hissed say na people wey he fit score be this àbí?

Me I sha like how holding respects himself and enjoys his new role of coming on in the last 10 minutes using his fingers to announce change in formation especially when we are defending a lead

Immediately Holding comes in, opposition should know we Don close shop be that.

Jodera:
Mehn, who saw that unlucky miss Martinelli in had in his last international?
That would have been a very very beautiful goal...

I'm telling you...
That turn...the piece of skill...simply incredible

50d33q:
Bros majority of ESR matches have been from the midfield, just 3 he played as SS(Cane in against westham), CF(against city thunder fire arteta ) and LW(replaced martinelli our last match)
Do you still want proof

this here is from Saka.
Are you saying this season Saka predominantly played midfield for us?

I just need a yes or no answer

mostob:
I'm telling you...
That turn...the piece of skill...simply incredible

I tell you bro. That skill in innovating such a dribble at that tight angle then his quick decision to chip the keeper who quickly closed him down was so sweet. Reminds me of De Lima in such situation. So unfortunate he didn't score.

Even Alves Don join Martinelli camp too

Spy360:
This is correct.

Wrong.
Even Pepe isn't regarded as a midfielder yet he isn't a CF.

Spy360:
@Jodera and 50d33q

The argument you are having is what I have tried to point out long before now.

We must understand that there is a difference between defenders and defending, same as attacker and attacking.

Also we must understand that in today's football tactics, you are either an attacker or a defender. There is no more term as midfielder unless you want to be specific.

In other words, a player is either an attacker or a defender. A midfielder who attacks is an attacker. A midfielder who defends is a defender.

If what you are talking about are forwards then it's the front two/three/four as the case may be. If you are talking about centre forwards or striker, then it's the guy playing top.

In summary,

Attackers include strikers, AM, wingers, etc.

Defenders include CBs, FBs, wingbacks, DMs, CMs etc.

Forwards: Strikers, wingers.

This one na another talk entirely.
You that you're watching our matches, will you say ESR predominantly played midfield for us or attack "this season" ?

BlueMann:
Sir whaaat? You gotta be playing right now

So what is he? An attacker? A right winger?

That means Robertson is a left winger?

Just because they are given license to roam forward and they spend a lot of time in the opposition half, doesn't mean they're attackers. It's just an attestation to the dual roles of a modern day fullback, especially one that plays in a dominant system like Liverpool's where fullbacks are a chief source of chance creation.

You didn't even answer my questions
Is he a fullback
And other questions

50d33q:
You didn't even answer my questions
Is he a fullback
And other questions

Of course Trent Is a fullback. Who doesn't know that?

Even Victor Moses was a defender when Chelsea won their last premier League.

Saka was a defender in his breakout season

Jodera:
this here is from Saka.
Are you saying this season Saka predominantly played midfield for us?

I just need a yes or no answer

So then you will agree attack is worse

Jodera:
Of course Trent Is a fullback. Who doesn't know that?

Even Victor Moses was a defender when Chelsea won their last premier League.

Saka was a defender in his breakout season

So when I mentioned wingback why did he called Trent
How's Moses a defender na because he once played the position
Nawa oo

50d33q:
So then you will agree attack is worse

So you agree that only Lacazette is attack?

If that's the case, why won't it be logical for ESR, Odegaard, Partey, Saka, Martinelli (all midfielders) not to have goals combined than only Lacazette??

Even Man u midfield have goals more than attack
Same as Tottenham
Same as Man city
Same as Chelsea

Same as any team you can think of sef

Then why are you guys making it seem as if it's an awkward stuff

50d33q:
So when I mentioned wingback why did he called Trent
How's Moses a defender na because he once played the position
Nawa oo

Blue.mann was telling you whether it's wingback, fullback, Center Back or any back, they are all regarded as defenders

I was specific
V. Moses was a defender in 2016/17 season
Saka was a defender in 2019/2020 season.

Same way ESR is an attacker 2021/22 season.

Jodera:
So you agree that only Lacazette is attack?

If that's the case, why won't it be logical for ESR, Odegaard, Partey, Saka, Martinelli (all midfielders) not to have goals combined than only Lacazette??

Even Man u midfield have goals more than attack
Same as Tottenham
Same as Man city
Same as Chelsea

Same as any team you can think of sef

Then why are you guys making it seem as if it's an awkward stuff

Why are you turning Amala unnecessarily
How many games did saka,martinell played in midfield
How many games did ESR played in attack
There lies your answer
All these play defense automatically making him defender na tales by moonlight

But I showed you Saka position from same transfermarket that you used for ESR na and it showed Saka played midfield too.

So how am I turning amala again? Abi you no believe your transfermarket this time around?

Cc: 50d33q

Jodera:
But I showed you Saka position from same transfermarket that you used for ESR na and it showed Saka played midfield too.

So how am I turning amala again? Abi you no believe your transfermarket this time around?

Cc: 50d33q

Even on arsenal site saka is a midfielder
How many matches did he play as a midfielder
How many matches did ESR play as a winger

50d33q:
Even on arsenal site saka is a midfielder
How many matches did he play as a midfielder
How many matches did ESR play as a winger

In arsenal site, he's a Midfielder
The transfermarket that we used, he played as midfielder (LM/RM). I showed you Saka positions in all the matches he played this season in transfermarket, and you're still asking me he many matches he played as a midfielder?
Haba na!

So if you agree that Saka and ESR are midfielders, it means we have no Wingers na. It also means we have no attackers except Lacazette.


Deep inside you, you know that Saka isn't a midfielder but let's just disagree with our eyes and what we're watching and agree with transfermarket because transfermarket says so

So koscienly retired last week and no one or that useless guy that handles our social media reported it.
We hardly forgive and forget in the north

Jodera:
Wrong.
Even Pepe isn't regarded as a midfielder yet he isn't a CF.

He said forward not centre forward.

Jodera:
In arsenal site, he's a Midfielder
The transfermarket that we used, he played as midfielder (LM/RM). I showed you Saka positions in all the matches he played this season in transfermarket, and you're still asking me he many matches he played as a midfielder?
Haba na!

So if you agree that Saka and ESR are midfielders, it means we have no Wingers na. It also means we have no attackers except Lacazette.


Deep inside you, you know that Saka isn't a midfielder but let's just disagree with our eyes and what we're watching and agree with transfermarket because transfermarket says so

In all your brilliant knowledge of football I sincerely doubt you understand names of positions.

Spy360:
He said forward not centre forward.

I dan tire bros