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| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 5:04pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
achorladey:Achorladey tell "AgirlsNightMare" moniker that his biblical proof of Governing Body in Acts 16:4 & Acts 15:2-4 NIV screenshot doesn't exist. What a deceptive man Achorladey is! achorladey:Achorladey tell your friend "AgirlsNightMare" na holy sit down take decisions at Acts 15:2-30 & send Paul with Barnabas as Envoys @ Acts 16:4 ? Is Paul a member of the Governing Body in Jerusalem @Acts 15:2-30 & participant in passing out the decisions of the GB @ Acts 16:4? YES! 1 Corinthians 5:1-13, was Paul talking to holy spirit to remove that unrepentant lawless believer sleeping with his Father's wife? Is Paul a member of the Governing Body & qualified to pass instructions tothe Corinthians & Hebrew believers? YES! @ Hebrews 13:7,17 the leading starts from the Governing Body, their leaders. Acts 2:42 & Acts 16:4," the teaching of the apostles" is the same teaching of the Governing Body/Council in Jerusalem. Oga, go & rest. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by 1MILLIONLiGHTS(m): 5:17pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
All I know is that HEAVEN and PARADISE is not the same. Also LAKE OF FIRE and HELL is not the same thing. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by OLAADEGBU(op): 6:34pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:You are the one deceiving yourselves pretending not to join the army when you actually engaged in spiritual warfare of disarming and harming people of the bible truth with your Watchtower beliefs. You are in opposition to the army of God when you wage war against the gospel truth. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:49pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:Spiritual wars can't bring ridicule upon God's name but when you carry weapons against a fellow deeperlifer from another country due to the politics going on in the world {Matthew 26:52} then in what way are you a follower of Jesus who never engaged in physical battle with anyone? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 7:05pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
Janosky:Now he knows where the Post is coming from and my lies are now your truth. Show me the verse of the Bible where Paul was governing body member show where apostle Paul call those taking the lead governing body ![]() No response so far. Acts 2:42 & Acts 16:4," the teaching of the apostles" is the same teaching of the Governing Body/Council in Jerusalem.Show where it was written as teaching of the governing council or body ![]() Oga, go & restFuel don finish. Screenshot Acts headline chapter 1: 1 Governing Body . Which kind book of the Bible be that one? |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 10:49am On Apr 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:I don't like to use curse word's but I can say that you're deluded. I've been doing critical and exegetical study for the past 10years, Maximus go and sit down you can stand me in a debate, several of your JW doctrine has no basis in the scriptures but just a product of mental gymnastics and eisegesis You saw a male moniker and called it female, it seems you're a womaniser, idiooot!!! |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 10:54am On Apr 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:You dey mad, na your papa edit him profile |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:03am On Apr 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: AgirlsNightmAre:I won't free you from what you jumped into yourself by changing the subject matter, i'm smarter than that! ![]() AgirlsNightmAre:So do you still DOUBT what you formerly believe or you're now making a second U-turn? I'll like to start from there with you! ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 11:05am On Apr 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:It's left for me to decide, I'm not like you that force things you can't prove on others Just go n relax |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:19am On Apr 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre:Do you know the difference between simple EXPRESSION and FORCE? Because i don't think expressing myself on a public forum is the same as FORCING people, on the contrary you're the one who came insulting me for expressing myself freely! AgirlsNightmAre: ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 11:20am On Apr 11, 2022 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=111843264]" I meant you can't stand me in a debate" You just went around highlighting my typographic error, it's a pity |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:26am On Apr 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre:I don't know you and i don't wanna know you, neither do i want to have anything to do with you so it's you that's forcing yourself on me not the other way around! ![]()
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| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 11:32am On Apr 11, 2022 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=111843757]I don't know you and i don't wanna know you, neither do i want to have anything to do with you so it's you that's forcing yourself on me not the other way around! [/quoteYou're nothing but a clout chaser I've seen you being eaten alive several times by RottenNaija, you're just an empty vessel |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:36am On Apr 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre:So why debate with an empty vessel? ![]()
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| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 11:55am On Apr 11, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:Is Jesus Christ a Trinity worshipper? You failed miserably the test of John 20:17. Do you still recall that TKO that Acts 2:33-36 delivered to you (3 simple questions you failed to answer) on this forum? Your Trinity na man made SCAM. Oga, go & rest. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 12:48pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
achorladey: Achorladey deceit no get boundaries. Is FIFA the Governing Body of Football? Is the word [b]Governing Body written in their constitution? You celebrate Christmas,is the word "Christmas written in your Bible? Your Trinity mentors reference "Council in Jerusalem" which also means "Governing Body in Jerusalem" 1st Proof: Acts 1:20-25, Were the apostles the Leaders? Yes. Acts15:22, the Governing Body of apostles & elders appointed "2 men who were Leaders among the brothers." YES! They appointed other leaders. 2nd Proof: Romans 1:1, Galatians 1:1,is Paul an apostle? Yes, definitely. Acts 9:15, Paul is a Leader. Jesus "chosen instrument to carry the Gospel to Gentiles & Jews" Paul wrote about half of New Testament ( |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 12:54pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
Janosky:The constitution of FIFA na your BIBLE ![]() I dey come ![]() That your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING wey add STUPIDITY forming woke na him cause ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 12:56pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:What comes around goes around . For this nairaland all of us go learn ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 12:58pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
achorladey:Achorladey proven his stupidity & I won't bother to stop him. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 12:59pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre:The foundation of the religion is based on EISEGESIS paapaa. Na person wey sabi go know. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 1:01pm On Apr 11, 2022*. Modified: 5:22pm On Apr 17, 2022 |
Janosky:You will soon run coming back. My response to that your stupidity forming woke peddling still dey come |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 1:36pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
achorladey: achorladey:You know say FIFA na Governing Body of football, you agree. But "Governing Body" paapaa no dey their constitution. You know say Acts 1:21-25. 2:42. 15:2-6,22. 16:4, Hebrews 13:7,17, the apostles be leaders giving directives to all believers as FIFA is doing in football, but you dey shout upandan where "Governing Body" for Bible? Oga, continue exposure of your mumu. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 2:46pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
Janosky:Mr stupidity forming woke Peddler what follows is yours ![]() Achorladey deceit no get boundaries.My deceit eventually becomes the truth you tell others. No be today you start am. Is FIFA the Governing Body of Football?What is my problem with FIFA is the Governing Body of football? Are the constitutions guiding FIFA obtained from NWT your Bible translation . Well your no get SENSE PEDDLING knows no boundaries. Is the word Governing Body written in their constitution?Is their [b]constitution the NWT you carry MR NO GET SENSE PEDDLER. 1st Proof:Those two verse cited by you, did you see governing body there? Then the apostles and the elders, together with the whole congregation, decided to send chosen men from among them to Antioch, along with Paul and Barʹna·bas; they sent Judas who was called Barʹsab·bas and Silas,+ who were leading men among the brothers. Did you see anyone called governing body here. Your eyes no see together with the whole congregation. 2nd Proof: Romans 1:1, Galatians 1:1,is Paul an apostle? Yes, definitely. Acts 9:15, Paul is a Leader. Jesus "chosen instrument to carry the Gospel to Gentiles & Jews" Paul wrote about half of New Testament (14 Bible books in total ) to Corinthians, Galatians & Hebrew believers etc & you say he's not in the Governing Body?Show me where he was referred to as a governing body member by any in his letters or he himself called himself a governing body or governing body member ![]() 3rd Proof:Apostles and elders is not equal to GOVERNING BODY. No where are the apostles called GOVERNING MEMBERS no dey carry your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING inside the scriptures Every believer followed their instructions & decisions.They followed it as they would follow the words of a prophet, elders apostles not as GOVERNING BODY or governing body member. Are you with your pen and paper taking notes?You have a bedI cannot take your STUPIDITY FORMING WOKE peddling as notes . They are ARCHAIC IDEAS TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE Apply the sense you boast of ![]() Stupidity posing as 'woke'.Stupidity peddler forming woke. E ku ise oni ooooo ![]() Acts 1:21-25, Acts 2:42, Acts 15:2-6,22 &16:4, Hebrews 13:7,17 the teaching of the apostles is the teaching of the Governing Body.Read those verses from now to eternity you will not see anything called GOVERNING BODY there. Stop this your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING over what does not exist. When TRINITARIANS preach TRINITY you will run from JERUSALEM Bible to Geneva Bible to Egypt and Australia Bible criss crossing continent with INTERLINEAR versions that the word trinity no dey Bible. You should be running same way to tell us where the word GOVERNING BODY is found in the Bible ![]() Well done MR NO GET SENSE PEDDLER. ![]() Oga, continue exposure of your mumuYour Mumu peddling over governing body is clear for all to see even using FIFA GOVERNING BODY as an illustration to buttress your point made your Mumu peddling a SEALED case ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:49pm On Apr 17, 2022*. Modified: 5:46pm On Apr 17, 2022 |
cornelboy:Simply because you lied that you don't know where your end will be whether it's on Paradise earth or invisible spirit in heaven but I helped you that your organization knows ![]() It's time you asked for more wisdom or donate your brain to the 8 men you esteem as Gods.I esteem them as gods or you take them as gods. Besides, I'm not that dull, spiritually blind or can be deceived by the Devil to donate my precious brain to those 8 lying old men in Warwick John 3:3,5 NLTI agree with Jesus in that verse but do you agree with the same Jesus when He said "The pure in heart will see God" "Those persecuted for righteousness will inherit the kingdom of heaven" If someone is naturally a gentle or meek person and doesn't believe in Jesus and Jehovah, there's no way he could have eternal Life on earth talkless of seeing the kingdom.So where was the word NATURALLY MEEK appear in that verse? Out of your dull brain, you pull that out when that's not what those verses are talking about. We even see from the scriptures that no one can be pure in heart or righteous without being baptized by the spirit. We are sinful by nature.Now, we are talking. Since no one can be pure in heart or righteous without being baptized by the spirit. It means all the people who will inherit the earth are not pure in heart and righteous. Remember once you are baptized by the spirit,your abode is automatically heaven ![]() Wahala for the followers of these lying 8 Old men. Meekness, enduring during persecution, righteousness etc are fruits of the spirit.Now compare this with that gebbrish you first spew. Can you have fruits of the spirit without being baptized by the same spirit? ![]() Matthew 19:27-28I'm more interested in that @underlined part. So are you a follower of Jesus Christ or not? We see from this above verses that the rewards for the apostles is to judge the new world (paradise) together with Christ.So how does Russell and his pagan team fit in into that verse? Or only the apostles (in which Paul was not part of) who are with Christ at that time when the statement was made by Jesus are the one who will sit with Him? Dem no go dè heaven forever. The kingdom (Jesus, the apostles, and the rest of the 144000) will fully come to earth to judge it.So people who are with Jesus at that time are 144,000 in number ![]() They will defeat any opposing human/Satan government and authority and restore peace to earth. Daniel 2:44.Yet the whole earth will burn at the fight of Armageddon where fire will destroy everything and only JWs will survive ![]() It's evident you don't understand what you're talking about. After Jesus has fulfilled his mission, he will hand over the kingdom to GOD the Father who will rule over everything including Jesus himself. I Corinthians 15:24-28.Nobody asked you this. Revelation 21:1-3Yet in most Watchtower depiction of paradise earth, they use to show body of waters, but the verse you quoted says "and the sea was also gone" can you spot the lies or limited understanding of the scripture here? ![]() If you can't figure these things out yourself, I would advice you to donate your brain to the 8 men god.I've figured it out that's why my brain can't be donated to those lying 8 Old men. Only people with empty skull can donate their so that it'll be filled with gebbrish and inaccurate scriptural knowledge. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by BestLife22(m): 10:02pm On Apr 17, 2022 |
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| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by cornelboy(f): 10:54pm On Apr 17, 2022 |
Emusan: I'm more interested in that @underlined part.Okay so your not interested in the new word Jesus was talking about right? Because it doesn't correlate with your wrong idea of life in heaven abi? Are part of the followers Jesus was talking about that will rule with him? If everyone in Nigeria is in aso rock and part of the government, who will the rule on? It's your pride that makes you think you will rule together with Jesus the King in the kingdom set up in heaven. Na you them dé find? You too will say you have the holy spirit like this o ![]() Don't be decieved, you don't have it. Paul, the disciples of Christ and the rest of the 144000 that God will choose from all corners of the earth are the ones to rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom. The kingdom will eventually come to earth and restore it. Go and present your have baked knowledge to someone else not me. I have all the pieces put together to make a whole picture. Only the JWs have the whole thing figured out. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:20pm On Apr 19, 2022 |
cornelboy:Your opinion! Because it doesn't correlate with your wrong idea of life in heaven abi?And it correlate with your wrong idea of life on earth ![]() Are part of the followers Jesus was talking about that will rule with him?What is he saying here Mr Sense? ![]() If everyone in Nigeria is in aso rock and part of the government, who will the rule on?Ode.... comparing heaven and Aso rock It's your pride that makes you think you will rule together with Jesus the King in the kingdom set up in heaven.You said below that it's God who will choose the people will go to heaven, yet saying here now that, it's my pride that makes me think, I'll rule with Jesus in heaven and to crown it at you said "Na you then de find" So if you claim as you don't know who will be in heaven earlier, how do you know I'm not the type God will choose? Can you see how nitwit you are? You too will say you have the holy spirit like this oThanks for let us know you're Jehovah to have known I don't have Holy Spirit. Paul, the disciples of Christ and the rest of the 144000 that God will choose from all corners of the earth are the ones to rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom.So God will choose people from ALL CORNERS OF THE EARTH yet you can boldly say I'm not the type needed ![]() The kingdom will eventually come to earth and restore it.How does correlate with my pist Go and present your have baked knowledge to someone else not me.Of course I'm doing which is the reason you here on this thread. I have all the pieces put together to make a whole picture.Your opinion ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:27am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:It's funny how many of you want the fire in that story to be literal, but Bosom of Abraham is not literal but a paradise. You are a joke Jesus didn't call Abraham Bosom a Paradise, it's what it is, a literal bosom of a man called Abraham. So all the old saints fix into the bosom of one single man ?. Don't tell me otherwise, or else everything in that story also becomes an illustration |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:38am On Apr 20, 2022*. Modified: 8:14am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Peter is one man, your example best describe the Pope. Do you agree the Pope is God's spokesperson too ? |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:46am On Apr 20, 2022 |
achorladey:True. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:50am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:Do you really peddle this weak and dumb idea ? , Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death. Good or bad, wicked or righteous, Heartless or kind. This is not the persons, or it would mean everybody goes to heaven. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03am On Apr 20, 2022 |
achorladey:Good, so present the church that's practicing what you're saying! ![]() |
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