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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 5:04pm On Apr 10, 2022
achorladey:
Still looking for cheap points grin grin grin

Make I see how e fall yakata

Show me Governing body in all of these verses. You go read am tire from all translations you no go see one person dem call governing body or governing body member. You don throwaway your NIV grin grin grin
Achorladey tell "AgirlsNightMare" moniker that his biblical proof of Governing Body in Acts 16:4 & Acts 15:2-4 NIV screenshot doesn't exist.
What a deceptive man Achorladey is!
achorladey:
Na your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING cause the apostles were not the OWNERS of the sheep in the first place. Chai, the owner of the sheep even promised his sheep the help of the Holy spirit grin grin grin and added he will be with them until the conclusion of system of things. grin grin grin. Enjoy the free Bible study.

Those leading that Paul was talking about are NOT GOVERNING BODY or GOVERNING BODY MEMBERS. Stop infusing your ARCHAIC IDEAS TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE into the Bible grin grin grin


Now you have to pluggin other monikers to ensure you push your cheap point to the line. grin grin grin. Those discussion based on the non existent governing body for Bible still dey make you peddle WAILINGS pele grin grin grin

[s]Janosky who is the best man owner of that post. Did you see that person talk about governing body.

Do they govern over the faith of OTHERS.

RECANTATIONS time grin grin grin grin
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Achorladey tell your friend "AgirlsNightMare" na holy sit down take decisions at Acts 15:2-30 & send Paul with Barnabas as Envoys @ Acts 16:4 ?

Is Paul a member of the Governing Body in Jerusalem @Acts 15:2-30 & participant in passing out the decisions of the GB @ Acts 16:4?
YES!

1 Corinthians 5:1-13, was Paul talking to holy spirit to remove that unrepentant lawless believer sleeping with his Father's wife?

Is Paul a member of the Governing Body & qualified to pass instructions tothe Corinthians & Hebrew believers?
YES!
@ Hebrews 13:7,17 the leading starts from the Governing Body, their leaders.

Acts 2:42 & Acts 16:4," the teaching of the apostles" is the same teaching of the Governing Body/Council in Jerusalem.

Oga, go & rest.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by 1MILLIONLiGHTS(m): 5:17pm On Apr 10, 2022
All I know is that HEAVEN and PARADISE is not the same. Also LAKE OF FIRE and HELL is not the same thing.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by OLAADEGBU(op): 6:34pm On Apr 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
"Reign in the heart" is what most religionists do say yet they will join killers in the name of patriotism to kill their fellow believers in whose hearts they also claim Jesus is reigning! Matthew 26:52

So stop deceiving yourself! smiley
You are the one deceiving yourselves pretending not to join the army when you actually engaged in spiritual warfare of disarming and harming people of the bible truth with your Watchtower beliefs. You are in opposition to the army of God when you wage war against the gospel truth. cool
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:49pm On Apr 10, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
You are the one deceiving yourselves pretending not to join the army when you actually engaged in spiritual warfare of disarming and harming people of the bible truth with your Watchtower beliefs. You are in opposition to the army of God when you wage war against the gospel truth. cool
Spiritual wars can't bring ridicule upon God's name but when you carry weapons against a fellow deeperlifer from another country due to the politics going on in the world {Matthew 26:52} then in what way are you a follower of Jesus who never engaged in physical battle with anyone? undecided
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 7:05pm On Apr 10, 2022
Janosky:
Achorladey tell "AgirlsNightMare" moniker that his biblical proof of Governing Body in Acts 16:4 & Acts 15:2-4 NIV screenshot doesn't exist.
What a deceptive man Achorladey is!

Achorladey tell your friend "AgirlsNightMare" na holy sit down take decisions at Acts 15:2-30 & send Paul with Barnabas as Envoys @ Acts 16:4 ?

Is Paul a member of the Governing Body in Jerusalem @Acts 15:2-30 & participant in passing out the decisions of the GB @ Acts 16:4?
YES!

1 Corinthians 5:1-13, was Paul talking to holy spirit to remove that unrepentant lawless believer sleeping with his Father's wife?

Is Paul a member of the Governing Body & qualified to pass instructions tothe Corinthians & Hebrew believers?
YES!
@ Hebrews 13:7,17 the leading starts from the Governing Body, their leaders.

Acts 2:42 & Acts 16:4," the teaching of the apostles" is the same teaching of the Governing Body/Council in Jerusalem.

Oga, go & rest.
Now he knows where the Post is coming from and my lies are now your truth. Show me the verse of the Bible where Paul was governing body member show where apostle Paul call those taking the lead governing body grin grin grin grin


No response so far.


Acts 2:42 & Acts 16:4," the teaching of the apostles" is the same teaching of the Governing Body/Council in Jerusalem.
Show where it was written as teaching of the governing council or body grin grin grin


Oga, go & rest
Fuel don finish. Screenshot Acts headline chapter 1: 1 Governing Body grin grin grin grin grin. Which kind book of the Bible be that one?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 10:49am On Apr 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
No wahala!

Aren't you the one DOUBTING what you formerly believe below?



Females like you were advised to learn in SILENCE! 1Timothy 2:12 wink
I don't like to use curse word's but I can say that you're deluded. I've been doing critical and exegetical study for the past 10years, Maximus go and sit down you can stand me in a debate, several of your JW doctrine has no basis in the scriptures but just a product of mental gymnastics and eisegesis
You saw a male moniker and called it female, it seems you're a womaniser, idiooot!!!
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 10:54am On Apr 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
She just edited her profile! wink
You dey mad, na your papa edit him profile
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:03am On Apr 11, 2022
AgirlsNightmAre:
You dey mad, na your papa edit him profile
AgirlsNightmAre:
I don't like to use curse word's but I can say that you're deluded. I've been doing critical and exegetical study for the past 10years, Maximus go and sit down you can stand me in a debate, several of your JW doctrine has no basis in the scriptures but just a product of mental gymnastics and eisegesis
You saw a male moniker and called it female, it seems you're a womaniser, idiooot!!!
I won't free you from what you jumped into yourself by changing the subject matter, i'm smarter than that! wink


AgirlsNightmAre:
DID NOAH'S FLOOD REALLY HAPPENED, AND IF IT HAPPENED WAS IT WORLDWIDE?

THE GENESIS ACCOUNT OF CREATION HAS A LOT OF LOOPHOLES," LIGHT WAS CREATED BEFORE THE SUN".......

A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES IN SOME VERSES IN THE BIBLE, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS VERSES WAS LATER PLAGIARIZED BY COPYISTS?

WHY IS THE THE BOOK OF ENOCH REJECTED, WHEN JUDE QOUTES FROM IT IN HIS LETTER

There are more than this, they are somethings that need a second thought before being dogmatic, religion from what I've seen limits your thinking capacity.....
So do you still DOUBT what you formerly believe or you're now making a second U-turn?

I'll like to start from there with you! smiley
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 11:05am On Apr 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I won't free you from what you jumped into yourself by changing the subject matter, i'm smarter than that! wink

So do you still DOUBT what you formerly believe or you're now making a second U-turn? smiley
It's left for me to decide, I'm not like you that force things you can't prove on others
Just go n relax
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:19am On Apr 11, 2022
AgirlsNightmAre:
It's left for me to decide, I'm not like you that force things you can't prove on others
Just go n relax
Do you know the difference between simple EXPRESSION and FORCE?

Because i don't think expressing myself on a public forum is the same as FORCING people, on the contrary you're the one who came insulting me for expressing myself freely!

AgirlsNightmAre:
Maximus stop this nonsense, stop taking scripture out of context
There's nothing like GB in the scriptures
smiley
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 11:20am On Apr 11, 2022
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=111843264]" I meant you can't stand me in a debate"
You just went around highlighting my typographic error, it's a pity
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:26am On Apr 11, 2022
AgirlsNightmAre:
" I meant you can't stand me in a debate"
You just went around highlighting my typographic error, it's a pity
I don't know you and i don't wanna know you, neither do i want to have anything to do with you so it's you that's forcing yourself on me not the other way around! wink

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Nobody: 11:32am On Apr 11, 2022
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=111843757]I don't know you and i don't wanna know you, neither do i want to have anything to do with you so it's you that's forcing yourself on me not the other way around! wink[/quote
You're nothing but a clout chaser
I've seen you being eaten alive several times by RottenNaija, you're just an empty vessel
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:36am On Apr 11, 2022
AgirlsNightmAre:
You're nothing but a clout chaser
I've seen you being eaten alive several times by RottenNaija, you're just an empty vessel
So why debate with an empty vessel? cheesy

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 11:55am On Apr 11, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
You are the one deceiving yourselves pretending not to join the army when you actually engaged in spiritual warfare of disarming and harming people of the bible truth with your Watchtower beliefs. You are in opposition to the army of God when you wage war against the gospel truth. cool
Is Jesus Christ a Trinity worshipper?
You failed miserably the test of John 20:17.

Do you still recall that TKO that Acts 2:33-36 delivered to you (3 simple questions you failed to answer) on this forum?

Your Trinity na man made SCAM.
Oga, go & rest.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 12:48pm On Apr 11, 2022
achorladey:
Now he knows where the Post is coming from and my lies are now your truth. Show me the verse of the Bible where Paul was governing body member show where apostle Paul call those taking the lead governing body grin grin grin


Achorladey deceit no get boundaries.
Is FIFA the Governing Body of Football?

Is the word [b]Governing Body
written in their constitution?
You celebrate Christmas,is the word "Christmas written in your Bible?
Your Trinity mentors reference "Council in Jerusalem" which also means "Governing Body in Jerusalem"


1st Proof:
Acts 1:20-25, Were the apostles the Leaders?
Yes.
Acts15:22, the Governing Body of apostles & elders appointed "2 men who were Leaders among the brothers."
YES! They appointed other leaders.

2nd Proof:
Romans 1:1, Galatians 1:1,is Paul an apostle?
Yes, definitely.
Acts 9:15, Paul is a Leader.
Jesus "chosen instrument to carry the Gospel to Gentiles & Jews"
Paul wrote about half of New Testament (
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 12:54pm On Apr 11, 2022
Janosky:


Achorladey deceit no get boundaries.
Is FIFA the Governing Body of Football?

Is the word [b]Governing Body
written in their constitution?

1st Proof:
Acts 1:20-25, Were the apostles the Leaders?
Yes.
Acts15:22, the Governing Body of apostles & elders appointed "2 men who were Leaders among the brothers."
YES! They appointed other leaders.

2nd Proof:
Romans 1:1, Galatians 1:1,is Paul an apostle?
Yes, definitely.
Acts 9:15, Paul is a Leader.
Jesus "chosen instrument to carry the Gospel to Gentiles & Jews"
Paul wrote about half of New Testament (14 Bible books in total ) to Corinthians, Galatians & Hebrew believers etc & you say he's not in the Governing Body?

3rd Proof:
Acts 16:4
"Then they went from town to town, instructing the believers to follow the decisions made by the apostles and elders in Jerusalem.

Every believer followed their instructions & decisions.
[/b]"

Are you with your pen and paper taking notes?
You have a bed


Stupidity posing as 'woke'.


Acts 1:21-25, Acts 2:42, Acts 15:2-6,22 &16:4, Hebrews 13:7,17 the teaching of the apostles is the teaching of the Governing Body.
The constitution of FIFA na your BIBLE grin grin grin grin

I dey come grin grin grin grin


That your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING wey add STUPIDITY forming woke na him cause grin grin grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 12:56pm On Apr 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So why debate with an empty vessel? cheesy
What comes around goes around grin grin grin. For this nairaland all of us go learn grin grin grin grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 12:58pm On Apr 11, 2022
achorladey:
The constitution of FIFA na your BIBLE grin grin grin grin

I dey come grin grin grin grin


That your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING wey add STUPIDITY forming woke na him cause grin grin grin
Achorladey proven his stupidity & I won't bother to stop him.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 12:59pm On Apr 11, 2022
AgirlsNightmAre:
I don't like to use curse word's but I can say that you're deluded. I've been doing critical and exegetical study for the past 10years, Maximus go and sit down you can stand me in a debate, several of your JW doctrine has no basis in the scriptures but just a product of mental gymnastics and eisegesis
You saw a male moniker and called it female, it seems you're a womaniser, idiooot!!!
The foundation of the religion is based on EISEGESIS paapaa. Na person wey sabi go know.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey:
Janosky:
Achorladey proven his stupidity & I won't bother to stop him.
You will soon run coming back. My response to that your stupidity forming woke peddling still dey come
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 1:36pm On Apr 11, 2022
achorladey:
You will soon run coming back. My response to that your stupidity forming work peddling still dey come
achorladey:
The foundation of the religion is based on EISEGESIS paapaa. Na person wey sabi go know.
You know say FIFA na Governing Body of football, you agree.
But "Governing Body" paapaa no dey their constitution.

You know say Acts 1:21-25. 2:42. 15:2-6,22. 16:4, Hebrews 13:7,17, the apostles be leaders giving directives to all believers as FIFA is doing in football, but you dey shout upandan where "Governing Body" for Bible?

Oga, continue exposure of your mumu
.
grin grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 2:46pm On Apr 11, 2022
Janosky:
You know say FIFA na Governing Body of football, you agree.
But "Governing Body" paapaa no dey their constitution.

You know say Acts 1:21-25. 2:42. 15:2-6,22. 16:4, Hebrews 13:7,17, the apostles be leaders giving directives to all believers as FIFA is doing in football, but you dey shout upandan where "Governing Body" for Bible?

Oga, continue exposure of your mumu
.
grin grin cheesy grin cheesy
Mr stupidity forming woke Peddler what follows is yours grin grin grin

Achorladey deceit no get boundaries.
My deceit eventually becomes the truth you tell others. No be today you start am.

Is FIFA the Governing Body of Football?
What is my problem with FIFA is the Governing Body of football? Are the constitutions guiding FIFA obtained from NWT your Bible translation grin grin. Well your no get SENSE PEDDLING knows no boundaries.


Is the word Governing Body written in their constitution?
Is their [b]constitution the NWT you carry MR NO GET SENSE PEDDLER.

1st Proof:
Acts 1:20-25, Were the apostles the Leaders?
Yes. Acts15:22, the Governing Body of apostles & elders appointed "2 men who were Leaders among the brothers."YES! They appointed other leaders.
Those two verse cited by you, did you see governing body there?

Then the apostles and the elders, together with the whole congregation, decided to send chosen men from among them to Antioch, along with Paul and Barʹna·bas; they sent Judas who was called Barʹsab·bas and Silas,+ who were leading men among the brothers.

Did you see anyone called governing body here. Your eyes no see together with the whole congregation. shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked



2nd Proof: Romans 1:1, Galatians 1:1,is Paul an apostle? Yes, definitely. Acts 9:15, Paul is a Leader. Jesus "chosen instrument to carry the Gospel to Gentiles & Jews" Paul wrote about half of New Testament (14 Bible books in total ) to Corinthians, Galatians & Hebrew believers etc & you say he's not in the Governing Body?
Show me where he was referred to as a governing body member by any in his letters or he himself called himself a governing body or governing body member grin grin grin grin


3rd Proof:
Acts 16:4 "Then they went from town to town, instructing the believers to follow the decisions made by the apostles and elders in Jerusalem.
Apostles and elders is not equal to GOVERNING BODY. No where are the apostles called GOVERNING MEMBERS no dey carry your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING inside the scriptures

Every believer followed their instructions & decisions.
They followed it as they would follow the words of a prophet, elders apostles not as GOVERNING BODY or governing body member.

Are you with your pen and paper taking notes?You have a bed
I cannot take your STUPIDITY FORMING WOKE peddling as notes grin grin grin grin grin. They are ARCHAIC IDEAS TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE grin grin grin Apply the sense you boast of grin

Stupidity posing as 'woke'.
Stupidity peddler forming woke. E ku ise oni ooooo grin grin grin grin


Acts 1:21-25, Acts 2:42, Acts 15:2-6,22 &16:4, Hebrews 13:7,17 the teaching of the apostles is the teaching of the Governing Body.
Read those verses from now to eternity you will not see anything called GOVERNING BODY there. Stop this your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING over what does not exist.


When TRINITARIANS preach TRINITY you will run from JERUSALEM Bible to Geneva Bible to Egypt and Australia Bible criss crossing continent with INTERLINEAR versions grin grin grin grin that the word trinity no dey Bible. You should be running same way to tell us where the word GOVERNING BODY is found in the Bible grin grin grin

Well done MR NO GET SENSE PEDDLER. grin grin grin


Oga, continue exposure of your mumu
Your Mumu peddling over governing body is clear for all to see even using FIFA GOVERNING BODY as an illustration to buttress your point made your Mumu peddling a SEALED case grin grin grin grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m):
cornelboy:
You half baked knowledge of the scriptures won't do you no good.
Simply because you lied that you don't know where your end will be whether it's on Paradise earth or invisible spirit in heaven but I helped you that your organization knows cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

It's time you asked for more wisdom or donate your brain to the 8 men you esteem as Gods.
I esteem them as gods or you take them as gods.

Besides, I'm not that dull, spiritually blind or can be deceived by the Devil to donate my precious brain to those 8 lying old men in Warwick grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

John 3:3,5 NLT
[3]Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God.”
[5]Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.

What Jesus meant here is crystal clear. Only those that are born of the spirit can enter the kingdom.
I agree with Jesus in that verse but do you agree with the same Jesus when He said

"The pure in heart will see God"
"Those persecuted for righteousness will inherit the kingdom of heaven"

If someone is naturally a gentle or meek person and doesn't believe in Jesus and Jehovah, there's no way he could have eternal Life on earth talkless of seeing the kingdom.
So where was the word NATURALLY MEEK appear in that verse?

Out of your dull brain, you pull that out when that's not what those verses are talking about.

We even see from the scriptures that no one can be pure in heart or righteous without being baptized by the spirit. We are sinful by nature.
Now, we are talking.

Since no one can be pure in heart or righteous without being baptized by the spirit. It means all the people who will inherit the earth are not pure in heart and righteous.

Remember once you are baptized by the spirit,your abode is automatically heaven grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Wahala for the followers of these lying 8 Old men.

Meekness, enduring during persecution, righteousness etc are fruits of the spirit.

Galatians 5:22-23 KJV
[22]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[23]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Now compare this with that gebbrish you first spew.

Can you have fruits of the spirit without being baptized by the same spirit? grin grin cheesy cheesy

Matthew 19:27-28
[27]Then Peter said to him, “We’ve given up everything to follow you. What will we get?”
[28]Jesus replied, “I assure you that when the world is made new and the Son of Man sits upon his glorious throne, you who have been my followers will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
I'm more interested in that @underlined part.

So are you a follower of Jesus Christ or not?

We see from this above verses that the rewards for the apostles is to judge the new world (paradise) together with Christ.
So how does Russell and his pagan team fit in into that verse?

Or only the apostles (in which Paul was not part of) who are with Christ at that time when the statement was made by Jesus are the one who will sit with Him?

Dem no go dè heaven forever. The kingdom (Jesus, the apostles, and the rest of the 144000) will fully come to earth to judge it.
So people who are with Jesus at that time are 144,000 in number cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

They will defeat any opposing human/Satan government and authority and restore peace to earth. Daniel 2:44.
Yet the whole earth will burn at the fight of Armageddon where fire will destroy everything and only JWs will survive cheesy grin cheesy grin

It's evident you don't understand what you're talking about.

After Jesus has fulfilled his mission, he will hand over the kingdom to GOD the Father who will rule over everything including Jesus himself. I Corinthians 15:24-28.
Nobody asked you this.

Revelation 21:1-3
[1]Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared. And the sea was also gone.
[2]And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
[3]I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them.
Yet in most Watchtower depiction of paradise earth, they use to show body of waters, but the verse you quoted says "and the sea was also gone" can you spot the lies or limited understanding of the scripture here? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

If you can't figure these things out yourself, I would advice you to donate your brain to the 8 men god.
I've figured it out that's why my brain can't be donated to those lying 8 Old men.

Only people with empty skull can donate their so that it'll be filled with gebbrish and inaccurate scriptural knowledge.
wink grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by BestLife22(m): 10:02pm On Apr 17, 2022
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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by cornelboy(f): 10:54pm On Apr 17, 2022
Emusan:
Simply because you lied that you don't know where your end will be whether it's on Paradise earth or invisible spirit in heaven but I helped you that your organization knows cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
I esteem them as gods or you take them as gods.
Besides, I'm not that dull, spiritually blind or can be deceived by the Devil to donate my precious brain to those 8 lying old men in Warwick grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
I agree with Jesus in that verse but do you agree with the same Jesus when He said
"The pure in heart will see God"
"Those persecuted for righteousness will inherit the kingdom of heaven"
So where was the word NATURALLY MEEK appear in that verse?
Out of your dull brain, you pull that out when that's not what those verses are talking about.
Now, we are talking.
Since no one can be pure in heart or righteous without being baptized by the spirit. It means all the people who will inherit the earth are not pure in heart and righteous.
Remember once you are baptized by the spirit,your abode is automatically heaven grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Wahala for the followers of these lying 8 Old men.
Now compare this with that gebbrish you first spew.
Can you have fruits of the spirit without being baptized by the same spirit? grin grin cheesy cheesy
I'm more interested in that @underlined part.
So are you a follower of Jesus Christ or not?
So how does Russell and his pagan team fit in into that verse?
Or only the apostles (in which Paul was not part of) who are with Christ at that time when the statement was made by Jesus are the one who will sit with Him?
So people who are with Jesus at that time are 144,000 in number cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Yet the whole earth will burn at the fight of Armageddon where fire will destroy everything and only JWs will survive cheesy grin cheesy grin
It's evident you don't understand what you're talking about.
Nobody asked you this.
Yet in most Watchtower depiction of paradise earth, they use to show body of waters, but the verse you quoted says "and the sea was also gone" can you spot the lies or limited understanding of the scripture here? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
I've figured it out that's why my brain can't be donated to those lying 8 Old men.
Only people with empty skull can donate their so that it'll be filled with gebbrish and inaccurate scriptural knowledge.
wink grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
I'm more interested in that @underlined part.
So are you a follower of Jesus Christ or not?
Okay so your not interested in the new word Jesus was talking about right?
Because it doesn't correlate with your wrong idea of life in heaven abi?

Are part of the followers Jesus was talking about that will rule with him?

If everyone in Nigeria is in aso rock and part of the government, who will the rule on?

It's your pride that makes you think you will rule together with Jesus the King in the kingdom set up in heaven.
Na you them dé find?
You too will say you have the holy spirit like this o cheesy cheesy
Don't be decieved, you don't have it.

Paul, the disciples of Christ and the rest of the 144000 that God will choose from all corners of the earth are the ones to rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom.

The kingdom will eventually come to earth and restore it.

Go and present your have baked knowledge to someone else not me.

I have all the pieces put together to make a whole picture.
Only the JWs have the whole thing figured out.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:20pm On Apr 19, 2022
cornelboy:
Okay so your not interested in the new word Jesus was talking about right?
Your opinion!

Because it doesn't correlate with your wrong idea of life in heaven abi?
And it correlate with your wrong idea of life on earth cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Are part of the followers Jesus was talking about that will rule with him?
What is he saying here Mr Sense? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

If everyone in Nigeria is in aso rock and part of the government, who will the rule on?
Ode.... comparing heaven and Aso rock

It's your pride that makes you think you will rule together with Jesus the King in the kingdom set up in heaven.
Na you them dé find?
You said below that it's God who will choose the people will go to heaven, yet saying here now that, it's my pride that makes me think, I'll rule with Jesus in heaven and to crown it at you said "Na you then de find"

So if you claim as you don't know who will be in heaven earlier, how do you know I'm not the type God will choose?

Can you see how nitwit you are?

You too will say you have the holy spirit like this o cheesy cheesy
Don't be decieved, you don't have it.
Thanks for let us know you're Jehovah to have known I don't have Holy Spirit.

Paul, the disciples of Christ and the rest of the 144000 that God will choose from all corners of the earth are the ones to rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom.
So God will choose people from ALL CORNERS OF THE EARTH yet you can boldly say I'm not the type needed cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

The kingdom will eventually come to earth and restore it.
How does correlate with my pist

Go and present your have baked knowledge to someone else not me.
Of course I'm doing which is the reason you here on this thread.

I have all the pieces put together to make a whole picture.
Only the JWs have the whole thing figured out.
Your opinion cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:27am On Apr 20, 2022
Ken4Christ:

The thief actually went to paradise the very day he died. Paradise in this context is not referring to heaven. It was Abraham's bosom where saints of old went to when they die.
It's also underneath the earth and separated from hell by a deep gulf as revealed in the story of the rich man and Lazarus.

But after the resurrection of our Lord Jesus, they were all released from that paradise and went to heaven with Jesus when he ascended back to heaven.
It's funny how many of you want the fire in that story to be literal, but Bosom of Abraham is not literal but a paradise. You are a joke

Jesus didn't call Abraham Bosom a Paradise, it's what it is, a literal bosom of a man called Abraham. So all the old saints fix into the bosom of one single man ?. Don't tell me otherwise, or else everything in that story also becomes an illustration
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02:
MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps you never studied the scriptures with meditation Sir!

A Governing Body is a group of older men of the faith in Christ who are appointed as overseers of Jesus' flock.
Before Jesus left he appointed Peter the apostle as the spokesperson of that little group whom he called "Apostles" that's why Jesus said:

"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Matthew 16:19

Jesus also commanded this same Peter saying:

When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?" "Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my lambs." John 21:15

That's why you'll notice Peter always speaking up for the group {Act 1:13} anytime the need arises or whenever they're questioned! Act 2:14; 3:4,12; 4:19; 5:29

But does that mean Peter has become infallible since Jesus chose him as spokesman for the Apostles?
The answer is NO!
Because the same Peter failed woefully to acknowledge gentiles who has been baptized with God's Holy Spirit in the presence of Jewish Christians {Galatians 2:11-14} despite the fact that God has forewarned him not to discriminate against believers due to racism! Act 10:15

So there was a GOVERNING BODY in the first century and Apostle Paul whom Jesus used to correct peter acknowledged this BODY that's why he always report back to them:

As they traveled on through the cities, they would deliver to them for observance the decrees that had been decided on by the apostles and the elders who were in Jerusalem. Act 16:4 compare to 15:2

Apostle Paul emphasized on the need for all the Christian congregations to OBEY the counsel of the GOVERNING BODY! Hebrews 13:7, 17


So if you don't know that there was a GB after Jesus' ascension to heaven that's not my fault Sir! smiley
Peter is one man, your example best describe the Pope. Do you agree the Pope is God's spokesperson too ?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:46am On Apr 20, 2022
achorladey:
The Bible you carry states in 1 Timothy 3:16,17 it is God's word that is inspired. The religious organization set up by men today feeds from the the Bible not the bible feeding from the church. The discussion centred here are what the scripture says not what your church says. It sometimes spill into some of the teachings of your religious organization and other denominations yet the base is what you the Bible says.

Learn. No dey carry the name of your religious organization like calf to be worshipped.
True.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:50am On Apr 20, 2022
Emusan:
No! The bodies ended up in grave while their spirits went to heaven
Do you really peddle this weak and dumb idea ?
, Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death. Good or bad, wicked or righteous, Heartless or kind. This is not the persons, or it would mean everybody goes to heaven.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03am On Apr 20, 2022
achorladey:
The Bible you carry states in 1 Timothy 3:16,17 it is God's word that is inspired. The religious organization set up by men today feeds from the the Bible not the bible feeding from the church. The discussion centred here are what the scripture says not what your church says. It sometimes spill into some of the teachings of your religious organization and other denominations yet the base is what you the Bible says.

Learn. No dey carry the name of your religious organization like calf to be worshipped.
Good, so present the church that's practicing what you're saying! smiley
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