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| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 8:34am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Show me one Bible verse that Jesus mentioned or states the name of a religious organization practising what I am saying. No dey carry the name of your religious organization like calf to be worshiped. Read your Bible from now till eternity including the interlinear, greeks, hebrews e.t.c. You will not see a name of a religious organization said to be doing God's will. Learn. Na now your eyes clear see the post abi when another poster commented on it. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 8:42am On Apr 20, 2022 |
RealTalker02:You should know the response will always be NO. Should they agree the Pope is God's spokesperson it renders their religious organization INVALID and they will be classified as heretics and by extension apostates. ![]() But you and I know they classed themselves as the only religious organization doing God’s will on earth. Therefore the Pope can never be seen as God's spokesperson. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:52am On Apr 20, 2022 |
achorladey:Why must it be only Jesus that you think should have a say regarding the religion doing the right thing? Why not other religions who are also claiming worshipers of God? If there shouldn't be a specific group practicing pure worship then why must it be all about what Jesus have to say? Remember Jesus himself claimed to know it all {John 14:6} so if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevant! ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 8:52am On Apr 20, 2022 |
RealTalker02:No! Though it's weak and dumb to you. Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death. Good or bad, wicked or righteous, Heartless or kind.You're right here! But why did you go further to state the below? It's like you're confused This is not the persons, or it would mean everybody goes to heaven.You said above and I quote "Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death" So is EVERY MAN'S SPIRIT NOT their own self or what are you insinuating? Definitely, everybody goes to heaven at death ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:02am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Should it have been you? ![]() Why not other religions who are also claiming worshipers of God?because they know that is left for God to do since they are not God, they have no power to do so. So anybody claiming to know the people practicing pure worship simply equating him/herself to be God. That's why it's on the judgment day everything will be laid opened. Why because know man has the knowledge and only Jesus knows every man's heart and deed. If there shouldn't be a specific group practicing pure worship then why must it be all about what Jesus have to say?No wonder you can't point to a single verse where Bible talk about this SPECIFIC GROUP. ![]() Remember Jesus himself claimed to know it all {John 14:6} so if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevant!After you said, "Jesus claimed to know it all" you still went further to say "if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevanct" does this make sense? This very statement is strictly against your posit because if Jesus claimed to know it all, then Jesus should have spoken about the specific group. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:07am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:Oh thank you Emusan! ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:09am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:You're welcome MaxinDHouse |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:14am On Apr 20, 2022 |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:15am On Apr 20, 2022 |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 9:24am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:Spirit means breath of life in that context, study . Anything other than breath means people go to heaven, either wicked or good. Which is the dumb theology you are peddling |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:44am On Apr 20, 2022 |
RealTalker02:In other words the breath of Life of the wicked also goes to heaven ![]() The spirit can't be breath of life because breath of Life isn't conscious to give account oof individual. "Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God" Rom 14:12 Anything other than breath means people go to heaven, either wicked or good. Which is the dumb theology you are peddlingBut your dumb theology above is glaring ![]() Anyways, everyone goes to heaven at death but God sent them to their final destination. If not scripture won't record that ALL MUST GIVE ACCOUNT TO GOD. Romans 14:12 If people didn't go to heaven, how will that possible? |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:52am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:So everybody good or evil is going to heaven shey? Walahi talahi this is tiri much fah! ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 9:53am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Why must it be only Jesus that you think should have a say regarding the religion doing the right thing?The discussion here is centered around Jesus. Why not other religions who are also claiming worshipers of God?Discussion not based on other religious groups as you state claiming worshipers of God. If there shouldn't be a specific group practicing pure worship then why must it be all about what Jesus have to say?When you are told to learn and stop ASSUMPTIONS, SPECULATIONS and the rest. You no go gree. What is the use of IF when in the first place Jesus didn't mention any group? Remember Jesus himself claimed to know it all {John 14:6} so if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevant!Oga dey read wetin you dey type and understand am. It is now Jesus claimed. Is it a claim to you? .In your John 14:6 Jesus didn't claim group or say anything related to group too. Get to understand it. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:56am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:You have finally crawled out of your shameless hole ![]() But even at that your translation also support it "For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*" NWT 2 Corin 5:10 |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 9:57am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:That post of his classified as PRO - DIVERSION tactics. I am reading the post and just shaking my head with the many ifs and claimed. Should it have been you?This question above to Max is apt. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58am On Apr 20, 2022 |
achorladey:Well then do you agree that only those following Jesus as a GROUP (whether physical or spiritual) will go to heaven? Doesn't that mean all other religious groups are doom? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:Why are you always angry nah? I just marveled at the HIGH level of your wisdom! ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:02am On Apr 20, 2022 |
achorladey:No worry jàre, Emusan said everybody both good and evil are going to heaven! ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:06am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Angry I'm one of the happiest person on earth anytime any day ![]() Well your organization possesses the same wisdom according to this Bible verse "For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*+" NWT 2 Corin 5:10 Pay attention to that @underlined sha If you need more verse I'm at your service ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:08am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Yes going to heaven to stand before God. Or you didn't read it your translation? |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:Don't worry about more verses, OLAADEGBU should learn something from you: Both thieves are going to heaven since their bodies will be buried and their SPIRIT will go and represent them in heaven. So what favour is Jesus' promise to the other guy? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 10:13am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Stop asking questions irrelevant to your position earlier. Well then do you agree that only those following Jesus as a GROUP (whether physical or spiritual) will go to heaven?When scripture from the Bible you believe are read to you, You go to your usual narratives you cram into your memory as learned from your religious leaders. The Lord knows those who belong to him. Get that into your memory and knowledge. The scripture did not say the Lord knows the group that are his. Doesn't that mean all other religious groups are doom?Na the problem of the speculatons and assumptions you have been fed over the years. Even your religious publications and information on their website states judging who gets salvation rest squarely in the hands of Jesus. Stop going into areas your not expected to go. Na to pick lawlessness of others you sabi. Learn. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:"Going to heaven to stand before God" Can you quote a single verse in any version of your choice where that is explicitly stated? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:15am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Don't hide here! Are those verses not in your translation? OLAADEGBU should learn something from you:He knows already so don't bother yourself about him Both thieves are going to heaven since their bodies will be buried and their SPIRIT will go and represent them in heaven.Yes and they'll both receive their judgement. So what favour is Jesus' promise to the other guy?That he will be with Him (Jesus) in paradise. That is He will be where Jesus would be while the other one will be sent to his own abode. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:16am On Apr 20, 2022 |
achorladey:People practicing different religion but heard of Jesus' name will make heaven too, shey? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:17am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Have done that earlier check it out. Romans 14:12, 2 Corin 5:10, Matt 12:36 and many more |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:We're getting somewhere now. So both the good and bad will go to heaven, but then stand before God's throne, receive judgment and each will be sent to their abode right there in heaven, shey? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by OLANIYIPETER: 10:22am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Paradise is the spiritual mortuary of the saints. It's the place for keeping the souls of the righteous ones till the judgement day. So Jesus was telling that thief that it will not be until His kingdom that this man will be remembered but he will be accepted among the saints today; for his faith in the righteous death of Christ Jesus. You too will be accepted today if you can declare Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Thanks. |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 10:22am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:You see how your struggling to drag me into your speculations and assumptions. The hold of your religious leaders teachings on you is so strong that you will easily disregard what Jesus said to hold on to what men like you say. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:23am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:We're not! It's a matter that has been settled in the scripture since, I'm just giving you Bible expository. So both the good and bad will go to heaven, but then stand before God's throne, receive judgment and each will be sent to their abode right there in heaven, shey?You read it from those scriptures. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Romans 14:12 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2 Corinthians 5:10 But I say unto you, That every idle word that, men shall speak, they shall give account thereof, in the day of judgment. Matthew 12:36 Please where is it written that they will all go to heaven to receive judgment? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by achorladey: 10:25am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan:He wants to start his merry-go-round with you. |
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