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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:08pm On Apr 19, 2022
Jodera:
Please explain in simple terms between Makeup and upgrade for me, so that I'll get the context.

And tell me how kuluveski and bentancur is a makeup and not an upgrade using said explanation.

Thank you cool
Makeup is replacing an injured player, or adding to a position lacking personnel. Replacing Auba for example would be a makeup. Signing Tavares as a backup for Tierney was a makeup. Signing Odegaard due to lack of AM is a makeup.

An upgrade is adding a player to displace another none performing. For example, Ramsdale for Leno was an upgrade. Gabriel and White was an upgrade to Mustafi and co.

A restructuring is adding players to change formation or the dynamics of a team. This is rare. Man City once did a restructuring when Pep joined. Chelsea did when Mourinho joined. Klopp too did one to suit his gengen pressing.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:16pm On Apr 19, 2022
Spy360:
Makeup is replacing an injured player, or adding to a position lacking personnel. Replacing Auba for example would be a makeup. Signing Tavares as a backup for Tierney was a makeup. Signing Odegaard due to lack of AM is a makeup.

An upgrade is adding a player to displace another none performing. For example, Ramsdale for Leno was an upgrade. Gabriel and White was an upgrade to Mustafi and co.

A restructuring is adding players to change formation or the dynamics of a team. This is rare. Man City once did a restructuring when Pep joined. Chelsea did when Mourinho joined. Klopp too did one to suit his gengen pressing.
Good for the explanation

So you called bentancur and kuluveski makeups? How come if they're starting most matches and displaced the players that was already there.
Example, bentancur replaced winks and
Kuluveski replaced Moura or bergwijn(any of your choice)

So tell me why are they regarded as makeups instead of upgrades since they didn't fit the makeup definition?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 9:50pm On Apr 19, 2022
Mehn this is the most useless scummies squad I have ever seen.
They are not even trying
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jencejyde(m): 10:14pm On Apr 19, 2022
50d33q:
Mehn this is the most useless scummies squad I have ever seen.
They are not even trying
That part of, "They are not even trying" is what pains the most. How on earth do you go out to play and not even make an effort .

These are the kind of performances that makes fans irate. . Those Liverpool players looked tired but the desire to bust a gut was the difference, they are real earners of their salaries.

These are the tapes that need to be played on auto replay to our players to know what it means to show desire and bring the right attitude from. Minute one till 90.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Akinbahm(m): 11:53pm On Apr 19, 2022
Spy360:
No.

Please no, I beg you.

Makeup does not mean upgrade. Makeup infact is optional. Upgrade is part of rebuilding. No serious club rebuilds or upgrades in Jan unless they have bloody sugar daddies. That's because it's extremely risky. Except Newcastle with new daddies, no club did upgrade. Spurs did a makeup with Kulusevic and Bentacour, yet Conte still complained, yet they got beaten by Brighton. Makeup is makeup, but rebuilding or upgrade is a whole lot different.

We sold out deadwoods, could have made up with quality Vlahovic and Melo, but deal failed. I can't blame the manager for if a player refused to join. We only move.

Infact I prefer in-house makeup as we did with ESR last season and Saka before that. We did an upgrade on our defense which was very successful. Hopefully, next window, we face midfield and attack. It's a process, it's a journey. All I want from the team is steady growth to show the effort, and this is what I am seeing so far.

If finally we finish 4th or 5th, it's an improvement however small, this will create the platform for a MUST TOP 4 finish next season.
Okay.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 12:32am On Apr 20, 2022
Jencejyde:
That part of, "They are not even trying" is what pains the most. How on earth do you go out to play and not even make an effort .

These are the kind of performances that makes fans irate. . Those Liverpool players looked tired but the desire to bust a gut was the difference, they are real earners of their salaries.

These are the tapes that need to be played on auto replay to our players to know what it means to show desire and bring the right attitude from. Minute one till 90.
It's terrible, how do these people sleep and wake up knowing fully well they don't deserve what they earn
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 4:02am On Apr 20, 2022
To God, Mustafi better pass that MAGAWAYA.. grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 4:32am On Apr 20, 2022
Roland17:
To God, Mustafi better pass that MAGAWAYA.. grin grin
Everyone knows that na
Mustafi that compete with vvd statistically
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:36am On Apr 20, 2022
Jencejyde:
The mentality and attitude from anyone who starts has to be top notch. Unfortunately unless proven wrong, it's hard to see where that comes from right now.
Bros let's hold our peace before Jodera calls us Attitude FC grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:38am On Apr 20, 2022
Jodera:
Good for the explanation

So you called bentancur and kuluveski makeups? How come if they're starting most matches and displaced the players that was already there.
Example, bentancur replaced winks and
Kuluveski replaced Moura or bergwijn(any of your choice)

So tell me why are they regarded as makeups instead of upgrades since they didn't fit the makeup definition?
Conte did not sign them as upgrades na. Haba.

He is playing them doesn't mean they came as upgrades. Common man.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:44am On Apr 20, 2022
50d33q:
Everyone knows that na
Mustafi that compete with vvd statistically
grin grin grin grin

Yoruba man will not kill Igbo man with laughter

grin grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:46am On Apr 20, 2022
Let me go and read Lamentations in Manyo thread kiss
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 9:15am On Apr 20, 2022
Spy360:
Let me go and read Lamentations in Manyo thread kiss
ha...don't go yet. Let's play our match first. I'm not sure I fit handle their trolling here o
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 10:13am On Apr 20, 2022
Spy360:
grin grin grin grin

Yoruba man will not kill Igbo man with laughter

grin grin grin grin
Make I bring the stats
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Lush100(m): 10:39am On Apr 20, 2022
50d33q:
Make I bring the stats
.

Pls do.


Mustafi is a good defender but he doesn't know when to just play safe (kick the ball to throw-in or corner) rather than trying to recover a ball.

Then he makes to many mistakes especially in the 18box.

His morale from fans has affected his psychology and that has affected his playing ability.
He faster than ben white.

As a good defender , u try as much as possible to push the opposition attacker out of the18box and u can foul him afterwards.
Also do not give the opposition attacker a breathing space.
Once u do this, u distrupt his rythym.

Tomi does this everytime before his injury
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 10:53am On Apr 20, 2022
Lush100:
.

Pls do.


Mustafi is a good defender but he doesn't know when to just play safe (kick the ball to throw-in or corner) rather than trying to recover a ball.

Then he makes to many mistakes especially in the 18box.

His morale from fans has affected his psychology and that has affected his playing ability.
He faster than ben white.

As a good defender , u try as much as possible to push the opposition attacker out of the18box and u can foul him afterwards.
Also do not give the opposition attacker a breathing space.
Once u do this, u distrupt his rythym.

Tomi does this everytime before his injury
This is 18/19 season

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 10:57am On Apr 20, 2022
This is 19/20 when lfc won the league
Mustafi had almost half of games vvd played and his stats were also half of what vvd had
Let's not forget mustafi played alongside xhaka while lfc have fabinho, Gini and Henderson to protect vvd

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 10:59am On Apr 20, 2022
Overall we always say mustafi caused this goal mustafi caused that goal.
He only committed one error leading to goal sane as vvd
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 11:00am On Apr 20, 2022
Spy360:
Conte did not sign them as upgrades na. Haba.

He is playing them doesn't mean they came as upgrades. Common man.
Omo*10 grin

Person was signed and he benched/displaced the existing first teamer after the first match but but but, he's not an upgrade.

Twale Spy, I troway hand for you grin
Anything to win argument grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 11:02am On Apr 20, 2022
50d33q:
Overall we always say mustafi caused this goal mustafi caused that goal.
He only committed one error leading to goal sane as vvd
Lower your voice comrade before dem say you dey bring another DWYL agenda grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:14am On Apr 20, 2022
mostob:
ha...don't go yet. Let's play our match first. I'm not sure I fit handle their trolling here o
grin

It's good you are taking responsibility for the formation you gave Arteta last weekend. undecided

You think sat we nor know? grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 11:19am On Apr 20, 2022
Jodera:
Lower your voice comrade before dem say you dey bring another DWYL agenda grin
No not at all
You know na only me they Stan mustafi and they rubbish the guy too much
Lush100 is right, fans really torture the guy emotionally maybe that's what's affecting magwaya (the guy now start running away from ball so they won't blame him but no matter where he run too trouble awaits grin grin)
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 11:26am On Apr 20, 2022
Jodera:
Lower your voice comrade before dem say you dey bring another DWYL agenda grin
After seeing the stats he posted do u agree with him that Mustafi was better than Van Djik for the two seasons he posted?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 11:28am On Apr 20, 2022
BlueRayDick:
After seeing the stats.ge posted do u agree with him that Mustafi was better than Van Djik for the two seasons he posted?
Did I say he's better I said e they compete
Throw vvd to play with xhaka na ABI no be the vvd them they rubbish for soton
Should I post mustafi and vvd when he was in soton undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 11:30am On Apr 20, 2022
50d33q:
Did I say he's better I said e they compete
Throw vvd to play with xhaka na ABI no be the vvd them they rubbish for soton
Should I post mustafi and vvd when he was in soton undecided
When u mean Compete what do u mean? Let me first understand the context u used the word "compete"

Like they are near equal u mean?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 11:50am On Apr 20, 2022
BlueRayDick:
When u mean Compete what do u mean? Let me first understand the context u used the word "compete"

Like they are near equal u mean?
Mustafi way they compete with vvd statistically that's what I said right.
Well the compete is like rivalry, be less or almost on par
Attached is 16/17 when vvd was in soton
Also 17/18

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jencejyde(m): 11:51am On Apr 20, 2022
Spy360:
Bros let's hold our peace before Jodera calls us Attitude FC grin
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 12:00pm On Apr 20, 2022
50d33q:
Mustafi way they compete with vvd statistically that's what I said right.
Well the compete is like rivalry, be less or almost on par
Attached is 16/17 when vvd was in soton
Also 17/18
What u posted here clearly shows Van Djik was doing well at at Southampton, he then moved to a bigger club and got even better.

If we are to go by how u use the word "compete" here, then we can bring as many CB's in the league with figures like mustafi's own and claim they "competed" with Van Djik as well
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:03pm On Apr 20, 2022
BlueRayDick:
After seeing the stats he posted do u agree with him that Mustafi was better than Van Djik for the two seasons he posted?
I dey mad?? How will I agree.

If you know me, I'm one of those who hardly use only stats to judge players
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 12:06pm On Apr 20, 2022
Jodera:
I dey mad?? How will I agree.

If you know me, I'm one of those who hardly use only stats to judge players
Alright
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:08pm On Apr 20, 2022
50d33q:
No not at all
You know na only me they Stan mustafi and they rubbish the guy too much
Lush100 is right, fans really torture the guy emotionally maybe that's what's affecting magwaya (the guy now start running away from ball so they won't blame him but no matter where he run too trouble awaits grin grin)
Of course, it affected mustafi emotionally. I once read an interview by mustafi who said every time he goes home at night, he's always down, that's it's his wife that mostly consoles him. He'll play fine game, no one will talk anything, if he makes one mistake, all hell will be let loose. And the worst part is that his mistakes mostly leads to goal (like Maguire). grin

Na that one I'll agree that a player is affected psychologically or mentally, no be this one dem say our club dey do now grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:13pm On Apr 20, 2022
Spy360 you said Ramsdale was signed as Leno upgrade

But same you is saying bentancur and kuluveski aren't upgrades even though they met your upgrade definition and explanations.

I still dey wait for you why Ramsdale go be upgrade but bentancur and kuluveski aren't?

Afterall na your definition we dey follow
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