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With the way some languages have children wo don't speak it well or fleuntly and therefore would not be able to pass it on to their children, how many languages do you think are in danger of being dead or maybe creolized? For example there are many dead and dying languages all over the world, from Europe to the Americas, even in Nigeria a language called Ajawa died in favor of Hausa, when the natives choose to speak Hausa instead for socio-economic reasons and therefore didn't pass on the language. Do you think for example some languages are dying in favor of others, with the focus being English. English had killed off several languages in Europe and in the Americas as well.

Olukumi is dead

Yoruba is dying

Yoruba language

illicit:
Olukumi is dead

Yoruba is dying

I doubt that Yoruba is one of the strongest languages in Nigeria. The average Yoruba youth speaks Yoruba fluently.

Malory:
Yoruba language

Read my last post and stop trolling. Yoruba isn't even under that category. Yoruba language movie industry is among the most powerful in Africa, the 2nd being Hausa. I want to hear how Ijaw, Ibibio, and those other minority languages are doing.

Jidasem:
I doubt that Yoruba is one of the strongest languages in Nigeria. The average Yoruba youth speaks Yoruba fluently.

It's dying

An average child can't read or write it

Some don't even speak it

It's becoming something they learn at school now rather than acquired at home

illicit:
It's dying

An average child can't read or write it

Some don't even speak it

It's becoming something they learn at school now rather than acquired at home

So... same with others Nigerian Languages. yoruba doesn't stand out. More people pick up on reading Yoruba easily though, compared to other Nigerian languages and it's in songs and social Media. Plus literacy isn't relevant here, we are talking about speaking, which is the basis of languages, which most people's ancestors mostly knew. So are you saying all Nigerian languages are dying because children hardly read in it?

Jidasem:
So... same with others Nigerian Languages. yoruba doesn't stand out. More people pick up on reading Yoruba easily though, compared to other Nigerian languages and it's in songs and social Media. Plus literacy isn't relevant here, we are talking about speaking, which is the basis of languages, which most people's ancestors mostly knew. So are you saying all Nigerian languages are dying because children hardly read in it?

Yes

They are not speaking it and not willing t learn it so it will die out when it has no native speaker

Those elders u mentioned were not influenced by another language and nobody reads or write by their time

Now the future generation choses to speak in one other language and neglect their tongue

It's dying

I am a Linguist, even my professors know

illicit:
Yes

They are not speaking it and not willing t learn it so it will die out when it has no native speaker

Those elders u mentioned were not influenced by another language and nobody reads or write by their time

Now the future generation choses to speak in one other language and neglect their tongue

It's dying

I am a Linguist, even my professors know

If you say so. What about cameroonian languages, especially the minorites and the English side and french side? How about other regions of "Francophone" Africa, how do you focus attention on local languages there? Do you know about them? And how do you suggest to prevent Language death for Nigerian languages. The whole of Southern African languages and East African languages have no fear for language death in my opinion. They have found the perfect balance.

Jidasem:
If you say so. What about cameroonian languages, especially the minorites and the English side and french side? How about other regions of "Francophone" Africa, how do you focus attention on local languages there? Do you know about them? And how do you suggest to prevent Language death for Nigerian languages. The whole of Southerners African languages and East African languages have no fear for language death in my opinion.

What I know is that Yoruba language is dying

illicit:
What I know is that Yoruba language is dying

Are you Yoruba?

Jidasem:
Are you Yoruba?

Yes

illicit:
Yes

So what do you think is the solution or do you think there is none. Or do you think what the solution will require is difficult.

Jidasem:
So what do you think is the solution or do you think there is none. Or do you think what the solution will require is difficult.

Language death is normal

Most languages will eventually die

It's becoming a text book language

Latin died too after it gave birth to English, french Spanish etc

Languages can die or evolve

Nothing has to be done but if little can be done then parents have to teach their kids before they learn any other language

Igbo. The person who said Yoruba is on drugs. I don't know if he is a non Yoruba troll, because there are many, or a super proud and fatalistic Yoruba who thinks Yorubas aren't reading in Yoruba enough as compared to... what group? Anyways. Yoruba is far becoming a dead language, not in a million years, the majority of Yorubas and even plenty none Yorubas speak it, even outside Nigeria. You even have Brazilians speaking Yoruba who are centuries removed or not even having any Yoruba ancestry. Yorubas are proud of their languages while some other groups run away from their languages.

Igbo for example is a language that has been classified as on the verge of dying . You get incidents like Real housewives of Lagos where chioma an igbo is angry at Iyabo for speaking Yoruba to her while dissing (though she is in Yoruba land) but chioma can't speak igbo and responds in English, lamenting. Also languages of minorities like Isoko, some edo, are even spoken less and less.

There was this video on hausa literary culture dying because there are less hausa literature printed and people not reading. Yoruba has more literary and general Yoruba readers. Most Nigerian languages are not typed out as much, but most can read them and understand what's been said lmao, and there are newspapers in Yoruba, and i suppose igbo and hausa. One of the things that stop people from typing out in their native languages in Nigeria online is because of the ethnic diversity and therefore the accusations of "tribalism" if you just for example tweet in a certain language and your target audience is country/world wide.

This is unlike countries with close mutually understandable languages like zulus and xhosa that everyone there speaks or countries with one main language like swahili speaking Kenya, Tanzania; where constantly tweeting in one language isn't an hindrance or can be really side eyed as "tribalism". Though all these are changing online, and there are many hausas and Yorubas who are okay with restricting their own online audience by speaking or writing in their languages. It's all good either style.

bundarina:
Igbo. The person who said Yoruba is on drugs. I don't know if he is a non Yoruba troll, because there are many, or a super proud and fatalistic Yoruba who thinks Yorubas aren't reading in Yoruba enough as compared to... what group? Anyways. Yoruba is far becoming a dead language, not in a million years, the majority of Yorubas and even plenty none Yorubas speak it, even outside Nigeria. You even have Brazilians speaking Yoruba who are centuries removed or not even having any Yoruba ancestry. Yorubas are proud of their languages while some other groups run away from their languages.

Igbo for example is a language that has been classified as on the verge of dying . You get incidents like Real housewives of Lagos where chioma an igbo is angry at Iyabo for speaking Yoruba to her while dissing (though she is in Yoruba land) but chioma can't speak igbo and responds in English, lamenting. Also languages of minorities like Isoko, some edo, are even spoken less and less.

There was this video on hausa literary culture dying because there are less hausa literature printed and people not reading. Yoruba has more literary and general Yoruba readers. Most Nigerian languages are not typed out as much, but most can read them and understand what's been said lmao, and there are newspapers in Yoruba, and i suppose igbo and hausa. One of the things that stop people from typing out in their native languages in Nigeria online is because of the ethnic diversity and therefore the accusations of "tribalism" if you just for example tweet in a certain language and your target audience is country/world wide.

This is unlike countries with close mutually understandable languages like zulus and xhosa that everyone there speaks or countries with one main language like swahili speaking Kenya, Tanzania; where constantly tweeting in one language isn't an hindrance or can be really side eyed as "tribalism". Though all these are changing online, and there are many hausas and Yorubas who are okay with restricting their own online audience by speaking or writing in their languages. It's all good either style.

continue living in delusions if it makes you feel good.
Your brother expressed his fears about your language with evidence and you channeled your frustration and obsession on Igbo as usual.

Tufiakwa

Malory:
Yoruba language

All of them. African youth only speak European languages now

Not me.

Sladem05:
All of them. African youth only speak European languages now

Samantha125:
Not me.

The vast majority of African youth don’t understand the mother tongue. The Europeans truly succeeded. Just look at nairaland. It’s very rare to see people here speaking anything other than ENGLISH.

Jidasem:
If you say so. What about cameroonian languages, especially the minorites and the English side and french side? How about other regions of "Francophone" Africa, how do you focus attention on local languages there? Do you know about them? And how do you suggest to prevent Language death for Nigerian languages. The whole of Southern African languages and East African languages have no fear for language death in my opinion. They have found the perfect balance.

All African languages are endangered

The Europeans didn't succeed in anything, but we Africans are the ones who are succeeding in destroying our African cultures and languages.

We look down on those who can't speak good English and make mockery out of them... To us, having a child that is fluent in English than his or her mother tongue is an achievement, those Europeans are no longer holding a gun to our heads and forcing us to learn their language.

We are filled with self hate, there's recently a thread that made it to the front page of a Nigerian child in Nigeria who went to school in her beautiful natural African hair, only for the school to shave her hair without her parents ' knowledge, something you would never see white schools do to their fellow white learners.

China and India were also colonized by the Europeans, but they're still staying true to their cultures and languages.

Sladem05:
The vast majority of African youth don’t understand the mother tongue. The Europeans truly succeeded. Just look at nairaland. It’s very rare to see people here speaking anything other than ENGLISH.

Samantha125:
The Europeans didn't succeed in anything, but we Africans are the ones who are succeeding in destroying our African cultures and languages.

We look down on those who can't speak good English and make mockery out of them... To us, having a child that is fluent in English than his or her mother tongue is an achievement, those Europeans are no longer holding a gun to our heads and forcing us to learn their language.

We are filled with self hate, there's recently a thread that made it to the front page of a Nigerian child in Nigeria who went to school in her beautiful natural African hair, only for the school to shave her hair without her parents ' knowledge, something you would never see white schools do to their fellow white learners.

China and India were also colonized by the Europeans, but they're still staying true to their cultures and languages.

The fact that we are speaking in their language is proof that they did succeed. Why isn’t vice Versa happening? Most spoken languages on earth are European.

Asian colonisation by Europe was different and many Indians and Chinese speak English. English is the lingua Franca of not just Asia but the entire world.

To say that the Europeans didn’t succeed is hilarious. Europeans and Arabs conquered Africa. North Africa was not originally Arabic. We practice European and Arabic religions, speak their languages and so on. They defeated us.

We speak English because it’s the most important language on earth. It’s the language of everything. You need to understand English to a certain extent at least to have any meaningful success in life.

Africans allowed themselves to get kicked by European and Arabs.

Samantha125:
The Europeans didn't succeed in anything, but we Africans are the ones who are succeeding in destroying our African cultures and languages.

We look down on those who can't speak good English and make mockery out of them... To us, having a child that is fluent in English than his or her mother tongue is an achievement, those Europeans are no longer holding a gun to our heads and forcing us to learn their language.

We are filled with self hate, there's recently a thread that made it to the front page of a Nigerian child in Nigeria who went to school in her beautiful natural African hair, only for the school to shave her hair without her parents ' knowledge, something you would never see white schools do to their fellow white learners.

China and India were also colonized by the Europeans, but they're still staying true to their cultures and languages.

Cry me a river, the Europeans and Arabs kicked your asses. What a pathetic continent.

I'm trying to have a logical and constructive argument with you, but you're being aggressive.

Bye.

Sladem05:
Cry me a river, the Europeans and Arabs kicked your asses. What a pathetic continent.

Samantha125:
I'm trying to have a logical and constructive argument with you, but you're being aggressive.

Bye.

Truth does hurt but Africa was conquered by the Europeans and Arabs and thus its languages are dying out.

Nobody is being hurt here...🤦🤦🤦

Sladem05:
Truth does hurt but Africa was conquered by the Europeans and Arabs and thus its languages are dying out.