http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg3umXU_qWc

what are your thoughts

I def dont see her marrying a Naija man and I dont blame her at all if she doesnt.

She actually is married to a Nigerian.

Interesting vid tho.

^Is she? Im surprised

Ive never seen her husband. Must not be that much of a Nigerian if he isnt intimidated by her views

and yes excellent vid. she's brilliant

I love the way she speaks but what she says lacks a lot of power because she focuses on very superficial examples of discrimination against women. What is not being acknowledged in a restaurant when women are dealing with being confined to fattening houses or working to support their brother's school fees?

MamiWata: I love the way she speaks but what she says lacks a lot of power because she focuses on very superficial examples of discrimination against women. What is not being acknowledged in a restaurant when women are dealing with being confined to fattening houses or working to support their brother's school fees?

Nothing superficial in pointing out that men have an issue saying HELLO to a woman simply for having a vagina

or the fact that we cant even go to a hotel without people assuming we're streetwalkers

MamiWata: I love the way she speaks but what she says lacks a lot of power because she focuses on very superficial examples of discrimination against women. What is not being acknowledged in a restaurant when women are dealing with being confined to fattening houses or working to support their brother's school fees?

You have to remember that our experiences are different, just the way the experiences of racism for a wealthy black male would be different for a poor black male. Also, the examples she gave was to create a contrast to what her male friend assumed that 'women are no more discriminated against, since they can go to school, be their own bosses these days and that blatant discrimination against women like fattening rooms like you made mention of are currently in the minority.' Our experiences in the corporate field and rural areas should not be taken superficial over the other, because how can we fight things like child bride marriages when we ourselves don't even know we are discriminated against.

stillwater:

You have to remember that our experiences are different, just the way the experiences of racism for a wealthy black male would be different for a poor black male. Also, the examples she gave was to create a contrast to what her male friend assumed that 'women are no more discriminated against, since they can go to school, be their own bosses these days and that blatant discrimination against women like fattening rooms like you made mention of are currently in the minority.' Our experiences in the corporate field and rural areas should not be taken superficial over the other, because how can we fight things like child bride marriages when we ourselves don't even know we are discriminated against.

I am not saying that women in city situations don't face discrimination. I am asserting that the consequences of that discrimination pale in comparison to women who force life altering circumstances and that her message would've been more powerful had she focused on those. We can certainly fight child marriage whether or not we are experiencing hardship as individuals. Some men are fighting against child marriage and certainly they don't experience sexism. Moreover the fact that child marriage is still being debated should shut down the men who are asserting that women are no longer facing discrimination. I'll gladly take being ignored at a restaurant 3 times away versus being married off to someone's grandfather at the age of 12.

ThiefOfHearts:

Nothing superficial in pointing out that men have an issue saying HELLO to a woman simply for having a vagina

or the fact that we cant even go to a hotel without people assuming we're streetwalkers

These situations lack gravity when compared to others including having bits of your genitals cut off to keep you chaste. I still strongly believe she could've chosen more compelling arguments but I know she meant well and certainly is a great speaker.

Didn't someone create a thread for this junk stupid video time ago in the politics section?

How feasible is this bs? - some of you just love listening to tosh to make yourself feel good. Anyway, there's nothing bad feeling good, however, the question is: how practical is this bs?

Even in Europe and America were feminism was birthed - people are tired of that crap already and more people swayed by this fraud are now embracing womanhood and family life. At the end of the day, it looks good on paper, but it's a lose lose situation. There can always be one leader in a team and the MAN is the natural leader. Men think before making a decision but women act based on emotions - that alone should be able to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Anyway, bitter women with high mileage can embrace this junk, who cares? You lot are more like a "banger" with no value nor worth - sing ya kumbaya and feel good. It's a man's world!

Thanks for proving Chimamanda's pointg ShymX

who knew you were useful for at least one thing

Congrats darling!

and last I checked the thread mentioned the women of Nairaland but in typical Naija fashion, a phaggot always has to gatecrash

Who cares about naija fashion? Just educating the young ones to stay away from this junk and leave bitter women like yourself, with a mileage in the thousands, to embrace it. At least it makes you feel good about yourself after tons of heartbreaks and being jilted. I'm happy for you, anyway.

Well. if you think I'm a "phaggot" you can bring your batty into it. I spare no one, including cougars and I'll smash it to smithereens and hand-over the broken pieces to you and your pseudo-feminism pipe-dream.

Just keep this junk in Nigeria - we don't need it out here. The black family over here is messed up enough, for gits with the same IQ as panders, who just discovered westernisation to come destroy it further.

MamiWata:

I am not saying that women in city situations don't face discrimination. I am asserting that the consequences of that discrimination pale in comparison to women who force life altering circumstances and that her message would've been more powerful had she focused on those. We can certainly fight child marriage whether or not we are experiencing hardship as individuals. Some men are fighting against child marriage and certainly they don't experience sexism. Moreover the fact that child marriage is still being debated should shut down the men who are asserting that women are no longer facing discrimination. I'll gladly take being ignored at a restaurant 3 times away versus being married off to someone's grandfather at the age of 12.

I understand what you are saying, but these issues still fall under the same for me. The child bride issue hasn't even shut down the men, some actually tell you that it has nothing to do with us because we are not from the North.

ThiefOfHearts: Thanks for proving Chimamanda's pointg ShymX

who knew you were useful for at least one thing

Congrats darling!

and last I checked the thread mentioned the women of Nairaland but in typical Naija fashion, a phaggot always has to gatecrash

Damn!! ThiefOfHearts, it seems I had too much Ciroc when I posted the other retort to you. I went in too hard on you, init? I take everything I said back. I just subconsciously thought you were trying to get at me with ya feisty self. Anyway, I think you're a nice girl - shout me, I want to see what you're about.

stillwater:

I understand what you are saying, but these issues still fall under the same for me. The child bride issue hasn't even shut down the men, some actually tell you that it has nothing to do with us because we are not from the North.

Do you agree when they say it has nothing to do with you? I can understand both ways.

However men can not see something right before their eyes and others don't want to acknowledge the harm because they benefit from it to a certain degree. They are comforted in knowing that no matter how small society has made them feel there is always someone they can look down on....whose life doesn't have the same worth as their own. I pray that African women in general and West African in particular support one another. I am Beninese but I know Nigeria is the giant of west Africa and everyone watches when Nigeria takes action. It's so important to get this one right.

MamiWata:

Do you agree when they say it has nothing to do with you? I can understand both ways.

However men can not see something right before their eyes and others don't want to acknowledge the harm because they benefit from it to a certain degree. They are comforted in knowing that no matter how small society has made them feel there is always someone they can look down on....whose life doesn't have the same worth as their own. I pray that African women in general and West African in particular support one another. I am Beninese but I know Nigeria is the giant of west Africa and everyone watches when Nigeria takes action. It's so important to get this one right.

I didn't agree when the men said that, and my response was that as a Nigerian I have as much right to determine what remains or is introduced in our constitution. For that reason it is not a northern or muslim issue but our issue. After all it's a 'democratic' polity.

I agree with your second part. People do not fight against things that favor them. Therefore, African men see nothing wrong with the status quo which favors them.

Long time TOH

MetaPhysical: Long time TOH

who you be?

everybody just changing names

You have only one everlasting lover in Nairaland, everyone else is a pretender.

MetaPhysical: You have only one everlasting lover in Nairaland, everyone else is a pretender.

abeg I need more hints jo!