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MaxInDHouse:
No wahala jàre

Nobody sees it as wahala except you

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everybody is going to heaven, their bodies will be in their graves but their spirit will represent them before God's throne (in heaven) so that they will be judged.

That's what the scripture says

Thanks for your time!

You're welcome for your time.

Emusan:
Funny enough you quoted that Job yet you couldn't see the obvious point there.

The Bible says you'll stand before God to give account as even confirmed by that job you quoted.

You don't read ?

“For He sets no appointed time for a man, That he should appear before Him in judgment. " - Job 34 : 23 Amplified Bible.

Do you read the bold ? He set no time for anyone to appear before him for judgement.

You already provided the verse at Ecclesiastes that ALL SPIRIT MUST RETURN TO GOD.

I only told you the reason why the spirit there can't be breath of Life as you earlier claimed.

I didn't say it rather Bible said so.

"For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.* 2 Corin 5:10 NWT

If we will all stand before judgment SEAT OF CHRIST and give account of everything will did WHILE IN THE BODY it means it must be over spirit being that'll do that.


Just because it didn't dance to your tune

The problem with your theology is it can't explain in what form this persons Exist without entering serious problems.


According to 1Corinthians 15, no one get the spiritual body until Ressurection. where did your theology get this body when Ressurection haven't occur ? I demand an answer


Secondly, Spiritual body is for those who belong to Christ like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. So wicked people also belong to Christ , and are raised in Glory ?

RealTalker02:
You don't read ?
“For He sets no appointed time for a man, That he should appear before Him in judgment. " - Job 34 : 23 Amplified Bible.
Do you read the bold ? He set no time for anyone to appear before him for judgement.
The problem with your theology is it can't explain in what form this persons Exist without entering serious problems.
According to 1Corinthians 15, no one get the spiritual body until Ressurection. where did your theology get this body when Ressurection haven't occur ? I demand an answer
Secondly, Spiritual body is for those who belong to Christ like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. So wicked people also belong to Christ , and are raised in Glory ?

The funniest part is that OLAADEGBU will keep quiet after putting his fellow Churchgoers in a mess only to throw tantrums when they've been ridiculed.
Abeg i'm OK with the jokes for now!

RealTalker02:
You don't read ?

I read, do you?

“For He sets no appointed time for a man, That he should appear before Him in judgment. " - Job 34 : 23 Amplified Bible.

Do you read the bold ? He set no time for anyone to appear before him for judgement.

But the text says people will appear before Him for judgment, or you didn't understand that part?

Also, short before that verse, verse 14 says "If he fixes his attention* on them, If he gathers their spirit and breath to himself,+"

Here Spirit was distinguished from breath

The problem with your theology is it can't explain in what form this persons Exist without entering serious problems.

I think the problem here is you, because I've said earlier that it is the SPIRIT that went to heaven.

According to 1Corinthians 15, no one get the spiritual body until Ressurection. where did your theology get this body when Ressurection haven't occur ? I demand an answer

The spirit that returned to God after death.

Secondly, Spiritual body is for those who belong to Christ like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. So wicked people also belong to Christ , and are raised in Glory ?

No! They don't raise in glory but to demnation. So don't deviate from the main point.

The dead will APPEAR BEFORE GOD, according to those scriptures.

Also, 1 Corinthians 15 never said the spiritual body ONLY BELONG TO SOME PEOPLE but Aall resurrected people.

MaxInDHouse:
The funniest part is that OLAADEGBU will keep quiet after putting his fellow Churchgoers in a mess only to throw tantrums when they've been ridiculed.
Abeg i'm OK with the jokes for now!

I trust you to be the true son of your father. Satan is known for sowing discord among brethren as you are attempting to do here. Your sin will expose you. Continue...

Emusan:
I read, do you?
But the text says people will appear before Him for judgment, or you didn't understand that part?

He set no appointed time for that. If it were literal, you won't have a problem answering in what body the persons appear!

Also, short before that verse, verse 14 says "If he fixes his attention* on them, If he gathers their spirit and breath to himself,+"

Here Spirit was distinguished from breath

Let me remind you , that the word spirit in Verse 14 is still Ruach, according to scriptures, Ruach of fleshly beings is in their Nostrils


" Everything on the dry land, all in whose NOSTRILS was the breath and spirit of life, died. " amplified Bible Genesis 7:22

The same Ruach appear at Ecclesiastes, found in mankind nostrils. Their breath.

I think the problem here is you, because I've said earlier that it is the SPIRIT that went to heaven.

The spirit that returned to God after death.

The spirit that return to God is Ruach, found in the nostrils of men. Your argument is that it has other meaning, Which demand the question , In which body do this one's appear before God ?

• Spiritual body is not available until Ressurection.

No! They don't raise in glory but to demnation. So don't deviate from the main point.

The dead will APPEAR BEFORE GOD, according to those scriptures.

Also, 1 Corinthians 15 never said the spiritual body ONLY BELONG TO SOME PEOPLE but Aall resurrected people.

So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
NIV

This listed the quality of the Spiritual body

• imperishable

• Raised in Glory
• Raised in power

To claim all ressurected ones have this is to Claim All of them are raised in Glory, So your dumb theology means Even sinners and wicked people share In Christ Glory when they stand before God.

RealTalker02:
He set no appointed time for that. If it were literal, you won't have a problem answering in what body the persons appear!

It's evident you have comprehension issue!

Check other translations for better understanding of that verse, the point isn't that there won't be judgment but there will be judgment but the appointed time for that wasn't set, so far this supported my point that both the dead will appear before God on judgement day.

Let me remind you , that the word spirit in Verse 14 is still Ruach, according to scriptures, Ruach of fleshly beings is in their Nostrils

But in that verse the distinction was made.

So which means spirit is different from breath of Life.

"Everything on the dry land, all in whose NOSTRILS was the breath and spirit of life, died. " amplified Bible Genesis 7:22

Again, another time Spirit will be distinguished from Breath.

The same Ruach appear at Ecclesiastes, found in mankind nostrils. Their breath.

You keep exposing your ignorance!

How can you provided two separate verses where Spirit and breath were totally used together and you still believe they are the same?

The spirit that return to God is Ruach, found in the nostrils of men.

No! It's the spirit being of the person that died

Your argument is that it has other meaning, Which demand the question , In which body do this one's appear before God ?

Already answered! Stop repeating question.

•Spiritual body is not available until Ressurection.

The spirit appears before God.

So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
NIV

This listed the quality of the Spiritual body

• imperishable

• Raised in Glory

To claim all ressurected ones have this is to Claim All of them are raised in Glory, So your dumb theology means Even sinners and wicked people share In Christ Glory when they stand before God.

You don't understand it, do you?

The unrighteous will be resurrected, true or false?

Yet you claimed spiritual body is only available at resurrection. So which body will the unrighteous have at resurrection?

You can't eat your cake and also have it.

Emusan:
It's evident you have comprehension issue!

Check other translations for better understanding of that verse, the point isn't that there won't be judgment but there will be judgment but the appointed time for that wasn't set, so far this supported my point that both the dead will appear before God on judgement day.


But in that verse the distinction was made.

So which means spirit is different from breath of Life.



Again, another time Spirit will be distinguished from Breath.



You keep exposing your ignorance!

How can you provided two separate verses where Spirit and breath were totally used together and you still believe they are the same?

No! It's the spirit being of the person that died

You are missing it , don't you?

The verse said Ruach ( spirit ) is located in the NOSTRILS , reffering to breath, Animals even have it too. That dignified my point. You won't say animals have spirit beings inside of them. Think!

Already answered! Stop repeating question.

The spirit appears before God.

It's not, What's the identity of this spirit ?

- breath in the NOSTRILS

Or - spiritual body ?


John chapter 3, criteria for a man to become a spirit , " what is born of spirit is spirit.

Are wicked people born of spirit too ?

If your theology is correct , everybody is born of spirit then. You see how dumb it all sound

You don't understand it, do you?

The unrighteous will be resurrected, true or false?

Yet you claimed spiritual body is only available at resurrection. So which body will the unrighteous have at resurrection?

You can't eat your cake and also have it.

I didn't claim, the Fact is there, Spiritual body is raised in Glory, power , and imperishable

I know Sinners and wicked people won't share Christ Glory. So when I said they won't have spiritual body, am saying facts.

Only your dumb theology is trying to give them Christ Glory. Unrighteous don't go to heaven, they will be ressurected on this Earth.

the most idiotic thing about your idea is it make it mean God makes mistakes, After being judged after death, God will still proceed to have another final judgement at Revelation 20 , Make you wonder if God make a mistake in the first judgement he is trying to rectify

OLAADEGBU:
I trust you to be the true son of your father. Satan is known for sowing discord among brethren as you are attempting to do here. Your sin will expose you. Continue...

OLÓDO ọmọ Kumuyi!
You throw questions at your fellow misinformed Churchgoers and keep quiet when they're being delt with.
How come you haven't said anything while the arguments is getting tough?
And who are your brethren?
You can continue deceiving yourself because everybody knows that Kumuyi didn't teach you that religionists in other churches are worth being call "believers" except Deeperlifers so your lies are exposed.
Meanwhile Emusan and his likes doesn't take other religions like Christ Embassy, Synagogues, Celestial Church, Cherubim and Seraphim including other white garment Churches as demonic the way Kumuyi taught you. So in the real sense they aren't your brethren!

MaxInDHouse:
Snip...
You throw questions at your fellow misinformed Churchgoers and keep quiet when they're being delt with.

My questions are thrown at my fellow believers in Christ but I trust you to come in uninvited like your father the devil who gate-crashed the meeting God was having with His servants.

MaxInDHouse:
How come you haven't said anything while the arguments is getting tough?

I'm only obliged to respond to objections referred to me especially when they address the topic at hand not the ranting of those who's objective is to cause confusion with their poisoned reasonings.

MaxInDHouse:
And who are your brethren?

My brethren know themselves and I know them but they are definitely not those who's loyalty is to some organisation who go about teaching doctrines of demons. My brethren are those who believe in the Triune God and have received the true Jesus as their Lord and personal Saviour. They also take the Holy Bible which is God breathed as the final authority in all matters unlike you who take the Watchtower magazine/literature as the final say.

MaxInDHouse:
You can continue deceiving yourself because everybody knows that Kumuyi didn't teach you that religionists in other churches are worth being call "believers" except Deeperlifers so your lies are exposed.

My G.S. teaches and preaches the full gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to all and sundry. If you don't believe the Holy Bible why should I expect you to believe what my G.S. teaches?

MaxInDHouse:
Meanwhile Emusan and his likes doesn't take other religions like Christ Embassy, Synagogues, Celestial Church, Cherubim and Seraphim including other white garment Churches as demonic the way Kumuyi taught you. So in the real sense they aren't your brethren!

There you go again deflecting and changing the subject at hand as your organisation usually does. The grasshopper method.

OLAADEGBU:
My questions are thrown at my fellow believers in Christ but I trust you to come in uninvited like your father the devil who gate-crashed the meeting God was having with His servants.



I'm only obliged to respond to objections referred to me especially when they address the topic at hand not the ranting of those who's objective is to cause confusion with their poisoned reasonings.



My brethren know themselves and I know them but they are definitely not those who's loyalty is to some organisation who go about teaching doctrines of demons. My brethren are those who believe in the Triune God and have received the true Jesus as their Lord and personal Saviour. They also take the Holy Bible which is God breathed as the final authority in all matters unlike you who take the Watchtower magazine/literature as the final say.



My G.S. teaches and preaches the full gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to all and sundry. If you don't believe the Holy Bible why should I expect you to believe what my G.S. teaches?



There you go again deflecting and changing the subject at hand as your organisation usually does. The grasshopper method.

No wahala, Jesus took the thief to where that same day?

Emusan:
Your opinion!



And it correlate with your wrong idea of life on earth



What is he saying here Mr Sense?



Ode.... comparing heaven and Aso rock



You said below that it's God who will choose the people will go to heaven, yet saying here now that, it's my pride that makes me think, I'll rule with Jesus in heaven and to crown it at you said "Na you then de find"

So if you claim as you don't know who will be in heaven earlier, how do you know I'm not the type God will choose?

Can you see how nitwit you are?



Thanks for let us know you're Jehovah to have known I don't have Holy Spirit.



So God will choose people from ALL CORNERS OF THE EARTH yet you can boldly say I'm not the type needed



How does correlate with my pist



Of course I'm doing which is the reason you here on this thread.



Your opinion

You have the holy spirit Abi, sebi your born again na? Na you go lead the kingdom don't worry foolish and arrogant people.

Holy spirit wey ona no get, ona go dè claim am. It's pure Satan deception sha. Na evil spirit fit de make person speak gibberish tongues not the holy spirit of the early church time.

God will choose only from bornagains i.e poeple baptized by the holy spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala, Jesus took the thief to where that same day?

Educate yourself on the thread below and stop going around in circles .

https://www.nairaland.com/1935165/did-jesus-go-hell-death

OLAADEGBU:
Educate yourself on the thread below and stop going around in circles .

https://www.nairaland.com/1935165/did-jesus-go-hell-death

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni answer the question and stop hiding behind a finger!
Jesus took the thief to where that same day?

Emusan:
Nobody sees it as wahala except you
That's what the scripture says
You're welcome for your time.

Lol olodo ni é.

Just Genesis 2:7 is enough for your dummy brain to understand that Adam was just a physical lifeless body made of clay before Jehovah gave him life by breathing into him.

The breath is same as spirit. We all got our life from God's breath/spirit through Adam.

When Adam died, what happened?
The spirit/breath left him and he became lifeless, decayed and returned to dust.
This is same for everyone that died, even Jesus, but God raised him back to life. He didn't let Jesus's body decay before he did.
Acts 2:31
[31]He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left
(dead) in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

When Adam died, he became a dead soul.
That's why God said that every soul that sins will die.
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
[4]Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Animals and human have the same life. I mean we got our life from the same source, the breath of God

Genesis 1:24
[24]And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature (NEPHESH) after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

The same Hebrew word NEPHESH was used to qualify both man and animals.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (NEPHESH).

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni answer the question and stop hiding behind a finger!
Jesus took the thief to where that same day?

To paradise, a place you know nothing about.

OLAADEGBU:
To paradise, a place you know nothing about.

OLÓDO!
No wonder you're always threatening everyone with your stupid hellfire, you can't expatiate further when you don't understand anything!

MaxInDHouse:
OLÓDO!
No wonder you're always threatening everyone with your stupid hellfire, you can't expatiate further when you don't understand anything!

What's the point teaching you when your mind is already made up?

OLAADEGBU:
What's the point teaching you when your mind is already made up?

Do you say TEACH?

Well i'm not one of the gullible souls you often threaten with your imaginary Hellfire, so if you don't have healthful thing to say about God's Kingdom you know it won't work with me!

MaxInDHouse:
Do you say TEACH?

Well i'm not one of the gullible souls you often threaten with your imaginary Hellfire, so if you don't have healthful thing to say about God's Kingdom you know it won't work with me!

I dare not teach you. It was Mark Twain that said: "Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it annoys the pig." Why should I frustrate myself trying to teach a man who has his mind already made up? It's a waste of my time.

OLAADEGBU:
I dare not teach you. It was Mark Twain that said: "Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it annoys the pig." Why should I frustrate myJself trying to teach a man who has his mind already made up? It's a waste of my time.

Ọ̀DẸ̀! ÒPÒNÚ! OLÓDO!

THREATENING and claiming it's TEACHING!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀! ÒPÒNÚ! OLÓDO!

THREATENING and claiming it's TEACHING!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:


lost false jw mad max

oh fearful one, which part is threatening:

OLAADEGBU:
I dare not teach you. It was Mark Twain that said: "Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it annoys the pig." Why should I frustrate myself trying to teach a man who has his mind already made up? It's a waste of my time.

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀! ÒPÒNÚ! OLÓDO!

THREATENING and claiming it's TEACHING!

How and when did I threaten you? It is rather you that is insulting and abusive proving the fact that you are annoyed because I taught you the truth.

If you think quoting Mark Twain is too much for you then wait to hear what Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour said to your likes:

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you" (Matthew 7:6).

Jesus is here saying that I should not waste good things on people who will not appreciate them. Therefore it is wise to preach or teach before a receptive audience.

RealTalker02:
He set no appointed time for that. If it were literal, you won't have a problem answering in what body the persons appear!

I know it won't be literal since your dumb mind wants it to be.

The text confirmed that there's going to be a judgment.

Let me remind you , that the word spirit in Verse 14 is still Ruach, according to scriptures, Ruach of fleshly beings is in their Nostrils


" Everything on the dry land, all in whose NOSTRILS was the breath and spirit of life, died. " amplified Bible Genesis 7:22

When they keep jumping from different translations to another is then you'll know that they're very confused

It has been established that breath of life and spirit are different, if not using them together in a verse will be grammatical error.

The same Ruach appear at Ecclesiastes, found in mankind nostrils. Their breath.

Not breath of life again

When you finish keep deceiving yourself, lemme know.

The spirit that return to God is Ruach, found in the nostrils of men. Your argument is that it has other meaning, Which demand the question , In which body do this one's appear before God ?

Rauch is not English, translate to English and see how dumb you are.

I've answered that several times.

• Spiritual body is not available until Ressurection.
So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
NIV

This listed the quality of the Spiritual body

• imperishable

• Raised in Glory
• Raised in power

To claim all ressurected ones have this is to Claim All of them are raised in Glory, So your dumb theology means Even sinners and wicked people share In Christ Glory when they stand before God.

Nonsense as usual!

He has to add IN CHRIST glory

So much the liar

cornelboy:
You have the holy spirit Abi, sebi your born again na? Na you go lead the kingdom don't worry foolish and arrogant people.

It's evident you're so furious like your father the Devil because he knows he has no part in that kingdom

Holy spirit wey ona no get, ona go dè claim am.

You're the Holy spirit for you to know we don't have you

It's pure Satan deception sha.

You're not the first who will say so, your forefathers told Jesus the same

Na evil spirit fit de make person speak gibberish tongues not the holy spirit of the early church time.

You know what your father the Devil is capable of that's why you know what he can do

God will choose only from bornagains i.e poeple baptized by the holy spirit.

Which you're not among because the works of your father the Devil manifest in you

cornelboy:
Lol olodo ni é.

Thank you!

Just Genesis 2:7 is enough for your dummy brain to understand that Adam was just a physical lifeless body made of clay before Jehovah gave him life by breathing into him.

If not because you're so dumb, where was it stated in Genesis that Adam was created from CLAY

Was it Jehovah who breath into him or Jesus?

The breath is same as spirit.

Says the deluded one!

When it suit you people you'll remove "...of life"

Is it The breath or breath of life?

If the breath is the same as spirit how come both words were used in the same verse?

We all got our life from God's breath/spirit through Adam.

And God's spirit is a person

When Adam died, what happened?

His body returned to ground to decay while the spirit returned to GOD.

The spirit/breath left him and he became lifeless, decayed and returned to dust.

Ok

This is same for everyone that died, even Jesus

Who says otherwise?

but God raised him back to life. He didn't let Jesus's body decay before he did.
Acts 2:31

Waooooo so God actually raised Jesus' BODY back to life, this is interesting!

[31]He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left
(dead) in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

When Adam died, he became a dead soul.
That's why God said that every soul that sins will die.
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
[4]Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Animals and human have the same life. I mean we got our life from the same source, the breath of God

Genesis 1:24
[24]And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature (NEPHESH) after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

The same Hebrew word NEPHESH was used to qualify both man and animals.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (NEPHESH).

The above is enough!

God raised Jesus body back to life

I guess your deluded brothers didn't see that part

Emusan:
I know it won't be literal since your dumb mind wants it to be.

The text confirmed that there's going to be a judgment.



When they keep jumping from different translations to another is then you'll know that they're very confused

It has been established that breath of life and spirit are different, if not using them together in a verse will be grammatical error.



Not breath of life again

When you finish keep deceiving yourself, lemme know.



Rauch is not English, translate to English and see how dumb you are.

I've answered that several times.



Nonsense as usual!

He has to add IN CHRIST glory

So much the liar

The text confirmed my point, Ruach is inside the nostrils, that's breath not a being.

Ruach when translated to English means breath, animals possess ruach too, How does that sound to you ? Animals possess a being inside them ?

What return to God is breath.

Delusion is when you think it means something else beyond breath. -

Let me use your analogy:

- it means a being

The being went to heaven, got judgement to hell and the being went to hell.


there is no single scripture that ever said Spirit went to hell. the idea of judgement after death is sham, and an insult to God Almighty because it means final judgment is when God tried to correct his mistakes in the first judgement.

Emusan:
Thank you!



If not because you're so dumb, where was it stated in Genesis that Adam was created from CLAY

Was it Jehovah who breath into him or Jesus?




Says the deluded one!

When it suit you people you'll remove "...of life"

Is it The breath or breath of life?


If the breath is the same as spirit how come both words were used in the same verse?



And God's spirit is a person



His body returned to ground to decay while the spirit returned to GOD.



Ok



Who says otherwise?



Waooooo so God actually raised Jesus' BODY back to life, this is interesting!




The above is enough!

God raised Jesus body back to life

I guess your deluded brothers didn't see that part

The same verse is a reference to animals, Genesis 7:22 - the question remain, Does it mean animals possess a being that goes to heaven in their nostrils since spirit and breath were used together for them ?

Emusan:
Thank you!



If not because you're so dumb, where was it stated in Genesis that Adam was created from CLAY

Was it Jehovah who breath into him or Jesus?




Says the deluded one!

When it suit you people you'll remove "...of life"

Is it The breath or breath of life?

If the breath is the same as spirit how come both words were used in the same verse?



And God's spirit is a person



His body returned to ground to decay while the spirit returned to GOD.



Ok



Who says otherwise?



Waooooo so God actually raised Jesus' BODY back to life, this is interesting!




The above is enough!

God raised Jesus body back to life

I guess your deluded brothers didn't see that part

Person assertion.
Who is closer to God, his spirit or Jesus Christ ?

RealTalker02:
The text confirmed my point, Ruach is inside the nostrils, that's breath not a being.

Says the dumb one!

It's evident that breath is different from spirit

“If He should determine to do so,
If He should gather to Himself His spirit and His breath,
All flesh would perish together,
And man would return to dust."

Definitely, both the Spirit of God and breath are in human.

Ruach when translated to English means breath, animals possess ruach too, How does that sound to you ? Animals possess a being inside them?

To even say when Ruach translated to English means breath shows the dishonesty in you.

What return to God is breath.

What returned to GOD is Spirit

Delusion is when you think it means something else beyond breath.

Delusion is when you substitute it for breath when in true meaning it's spirit.

Let me use your analogy:

- it means a being

The being went to heaven, got judgement to hell and the being went to hell.

The being also went to heaven

there is no single scripture that ever said Spirit went to hell.[/uote]

Read 1 Peter 3:19

[quote]the idea of judgement after death is sham,

Well, to you it might be but not according to the scripture.

and an insult to God Almighty because it means final judgment is when God tried to correct his mistakes in the first judgement.

So you're God to have known this

Yet God himself through inspired writers wrote that there will be judgment for both the dead and the living.

RealTalker02:
Person assertion.
Who is closer to God, his spirit or Jesus Christ ?

Both are one!