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Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by AroleOduduwa2: 10:46pm On Apr 22, 2022
muhammaduyusufu:

Germany just set aside huge money for some huge tankers for natural gas delivery.

Russia should milk as much as they can this year becuase they will be toast from next year.

Tanker delivery, like seriously?

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Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by pegix(m): 10:48pm On Apr 22, 2022
God1000:
Putin is a drowning man.


Germany has announced that it will stop buying Russia's gas by the end of this year, other European countries will follow suit and that despot in Moscow will have no leverage left
not as easy as it seems baba

Stop.ke

They can reduce the amount they purchase not stop within a year

Where should the rest com3 from
Most especially germany
They are in big shit if they stop
They have almost no proven source of oil muchless reserve

If u say other oil rich nation

The cost will still jump higher than russian oil and gas

Not will it only jump
It will also take years of investment ..yes many years
Before eu supplies can be met on a minimal scale

Russia has bbeen investing in fossils foils for forever

That northern artic oil route is for the west
And they gonna take it anyway

Take is at large!

Romania has oil..... investment is bad

Norway does....not so much to supply eu and unfavourable condition would allow exploration
Uk does have
..just enough for themselves...they still export alot

Usa has ....but wrongly placed

The western part of their country doesnt have

Imagine oil been shipped boston to alaska ...when u can easily buy cheap from russia

The cost of shipment , equipment , environmental preservation just doesn't worth it
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by 2mNaira: 10:49pm On Apr 22, 2022
plaindealer:



All that matters to you is poTin and his rubble and not the content of the article and the topic itself.

Misreading and not comprehending the article in the first place means you can not effectively contribute anything meaningful.

According to the EU, they are not violating their own sanctions because they are still paying in Euros and Dollars so of what relevance is poUtin and his bank doing aboki by changing the Euros and dollars to their worthless rubble?

You can not misrepresent the article and its content.





If you have comprehended the article, you will see that:

1.
EU is struggling to find a way to meet Putin's demand without breaking the rules of the sanction. They are actually struggling to do that according to the article.

2 . EU believes that opening a rubble account in the Russian bank does not break the sanction rule.

3. EU believes depositing Euro or Dollar at the appropriate exchange rate should be satisfactory enough for Putin.

4. Putin is yet to respond to their assumptions.

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Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by plaindealer: 10:51pm On Apr 22, 2022
2 Russian oligarchs were found dead one day apart alongside their wives and children, reports say


Two Russian oligarchs were found dead alongside their wives and children one day apart, according to multiple reports.

Vladislav Avayev, the former vice president of Gazprombank, was found dead of a gunshot wound in his Moscow apartment on Monday, Russia's state-run Tass news agency reported.



Investigators wrote in their statement that they are prioritizing a theory that Avayev shot his wife and daughter, and then himself.

More than 2,000 miles away, in Spain, another oligarch — Sergei Protosenya — was found hanged, with his wife and daughter stabbed to death, Spanish TV channel Telecinco reported. His body was found Tuesday, Spanish outlet El Punta Vui reported.

He was found with a bloodstained knife and an ax at his side, Telecinco reported.


Protosenya was the former vice president and chief accountant of Novatek, a major gas company with close connections to Gazprombank.

https://www.businessinsider.com/2-russian-oligarchs-found-dead-spain-moscow-reports-2022-4



The great pOuTin purge don start already.

2 Oligarchs are dead in less than 24 hours..

Including former vice president and chief accountant of Novatek, a major gas company with close connections to Gazprombank.


Russia is going back to the stone age, even worse than North Korea.

grin

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Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by pargelenis(m): 10:52pm On Apr 22, 2022
olas24u:
Are you a military tactician? Bloody civilian, kyiv is useless.
Kyiv is useless you say?? Is it after your Russians got their noses bloodied when trying to take over Kyiv that you now made that claim? Lake Denial can be very deep for Putin Puppets grin
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by plaindealer: 10:53pm On Apr 22, 2022
2mNaira:



If you have comprehended the article, you will see that:

1.
EU is struggling to find a way to meet Putin's demand without breaking the rules of the sanction. They are actually struggling to do that according to the article.

2 . EU believes that opening a rubble account in the Russian bank does not break the sanction rule.

3. EU believes depositing Euro or Dollar at the appropriate exchange rate should be satisfactory enough for Putin.

4. Putin is yet to respond to their assumptions.


Is the EU according to the article and even the topic paying in Euros or Rubble. Yes or No?
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by pargelenis(m): 10:53pm On Apr 22, 2022
ken6488:
Kiev is not the target. Russia will annex southern Ukraine. You can go and cry. If Russia can’t take Kiev he will sink Kiev
Is it after your Russians got their noses bloodied when trying to take over Kyiv that you now made that claim? Lake Denial can be very deep for Putin Puppets grin
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by WhizdomXX(m): 10:56pm On Apr 22, 2022
VladimirPutiin:
grin

When we tell these western puppets here that Putin knows how to play this game than sleepy joe and his lap dogs like Boris Johnson and Macron they say we are over rating Putin. It’s all playing out now. Putin is still keeping the Russian economy running and afloat even after the whole evil sanctions. My love for this man called Vladimir Putin is beyond this world. The El Patron. cool
How I wish Marine LePen wins in France Sunday.
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by edosignature(m): 10:57pm On Apr 22, 2022
Russia gas is the "Cheapest, Cleanest & it moves with the speed of light to it customers fie to the temperature of the region.

Long live Russia, Long live Vladimir Putin.
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by DerrickzB: 10:58pm On Apr 22, 2022
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God1000:
Putin is a drowning man.


Germany has announced that it will stop buying Russia's gas by the end of this year, other European countries will follow suit and that despot in Moscow will have no leverage left
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Stop spreading fake news!! Where did Germany say such?? Try rest
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by plaindealer: 11:00pm On Apr 22, 2022
pargelenis:
Kyiv is useless you say?? Is it after your Russians got their noses bloodied when trying to take over Kyiv that you now made that claim? Lake Denial can be very deep for Putin Puppets grin


The whole of Kieve is littered with destroyed and burnt-out Russian tanks and hardware.

PoUtin did not even make it to the Ukrainian capital even though the coward was only 15 miles away..

The coward ran with his troops to the south to slaughter and rape innocent civilians instead of facing Ukrainian troops.

Just imagine the so-called fake superpower can not defeat small Ukraine, 9 Russian generals and 34 colonels are dead already,

Ukraine exposed the Russian military as the most useless, disorganized, incompetent and grossly useless military in the world.

Below is how Ukraine decimated poUUtin out of Kyiv..

grin

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Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by chigoizie7(m): 11:03pm On Apr 22, 2022
They don’t have any choice
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by Godszilla: 11:04pm On Apr 22, 2022
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by 2mNaira: 11:04pm On Apr 22, 2022
plaindealer:



Is the EU according to the article and even the topic paying in Euros or Rubble. Yes or No?

The article tells us what their challenges and assumptions are. It does not tell us that they have overcome the challenges.

But from their assumptions, we can gather that they plan to open a rubble account and they plan to pay in either euro or dollar.

There is no where in the article where it says they are now paying in euro, dollars or rubble.

All the article tells us is their challenges, their assumptions and their intentions.
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by PoliteActivist: 11:06pm On Apr 22, 2022
Sirlancelort:


Oga sir you no know the meaning of Lol?, Na joke I dey joke.

Wetin Putin wan find come NL?

You'd be surprised. He could be here hiding behind some innocuous moniker
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by DerrickzB: 11:10pm On Apr 22, 2022
[s]
plaindealer:



Reading and comprehension na serious wahala for Nigerian youths.. grin

The EU is not paying dumb asss pouTin in worthless rubbles, they are paying in Euros and Dollars while the Gazprombank, the Russian bank converts the payment into rubbles.

If Gazprombank sleeps better at night by converting EU's Euros and Dollars payment into Rubbles, that is their problem, but they are not getting any rubble payment from the EU.



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Albert Einstein wey no sabi anything!! Smh!! The Russian economy would still grow either ways!!
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by PoliteActivist: 11:12pm On Apr 22, 2022
skoskosko:

I am being honest. Rather, you choose to deny reality because it hurts you. When Russia proposed this switch, he clearly told them that it doesn’t breach their sanctions technically. But in reality what it does is render the sanctions ineffective while at thesame time putting the ruble in demand and insuring the funds because the payment are now made at Russian banks instead of European banks. European bank would never have agreed to convert it to ruble, again European banks can at the behest of their government place a freeze on gazprom accounts in their bank. So it’s a mechanism that defeats all the web that the Europeans weaved without technically breaching sanctions. It’s called a master stroke.
Like I said, being intentionally deceptive, like the heading of this thread. Imagine Nigeria insisting that we be paid in Naira but still being paid in Euro.
Master stroke my ass - did you see this below?

https://www.nairaland.com/7091443/amsterdam-trade-bank-subsidiary-russia
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by Christistruth00: 11:36pm On Apr 22, 2022
Parachoko:
We can't fill the market that will be left by the Russians and is not going to be as cheap as that of Russia Gas.




Nigeria has the Reserves to fill it and Ghana also has natural gas
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by Dottore: 11:41pm On Apr 22, 2022
plaindealer:



Reading and comprehension na serious wahala for Nigerian youths.. grin

The EU is not paying dumb asss pouTin in worthless rubbles, they are paying in Euros and Dollars while the Gazprombank, the Russian bank converts the payment into rubbles.

If Gazprombank sleeps better at night by converting EU's Euros and Dollars payment into Rubbles, that is their problem, but they are not getting any rubble payment from the EU.

Simple and quick question sir? Who gets the Euro and USD payment? is it to whose advantages? Thanks
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by tamdun: 11:43pm On Apr 22, 2022
Goddson:
�� Following official European bans on using or displaying the letters Z and V in a manner that could be construed as supportive of Russia’s operation in Ukraine, Russian troops have begun drawing the entire English alphabet on their vehicles.

Hieroglyphs may soon be back in fashion


The funniest thing I saw today….
cheesy Oya make them ban abcd...
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by Nobody: 11:43pm On Apr 22, 2022
muhammaduyusufu:

I like your sarcastic comment. after they finish defending Putin on here, they would soak their garri and groundnut and call it a night. grin

If they even see groundnut join.
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by Gospel2Day: 11:49pm On Apr 22, 2022
VladimirPutiin:
grin

When we tell these western puppets here that Putin knows how to play this game than sleepy joe and his lap dogs like Boris Johnson and Macron they say we are over rating Putin. It’s all playing out now. Putin is still keeping the Russian economy running and afloat even after the whole evil sanctions. My love for this man called Vladimir Putin is beyond this world. The El Patron. cool

You love a man who invades and wastes a sovereign nation?
Would you love him,if your entire family were among those killed in Ukraine?
The wickedness and selfishness hiding in the hearts of some people is horrible.
Once a carnage or calamity does not affect us or our loved ones, we care less whoever else it affects.
Well done, Bro.
I pray you and your family members will not be visited and invaded by killers in Jesus Name.
Shalom.
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by Puremaker8: 11:50pm On Apr 22, 2022
Puremaker8:
Russia is overated? Don't tell me you're an adult
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by Babalola0920: 11:51pm On Apr 22, 2022
Una too like fallacy and fairytale grin grin grin grin russia no send anybody papa if UNA like make dem produce petrol


God1000:
Putin is a drowning man.


Germany has announced that it will stop buying Russia's gas by the end of this year, other European countries will follow suit and that despot in Moscow will have no leverage left
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by Babalola0920: 11:52pm On Apr 22, 2022
grin grin cheesy grin
JoeEeL:
I can recall how some mumus were rejoicing when it was the sanction season then against Russia.

The fools were capping crap. "Europe will boycott Russia", "Russia will only be able to sell to poor India and China"... grin

I was just looking at the muntulas. Even at the heat of the sanction, some EU countries were still doing backdoor deals on Russian oil.

Some nairalanders ehn, I dont know whether to say that sometimes una shame dey shame me, or that una go just deliberately let sentiment cancel una common sense.


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Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by plaindealer: 11:56pm On Apr 22, 2022
2mNaira:


The article tells us what their challenges and assumptions are. It does not tell us that they have overcome the challenges.

But from their assumptions, we can gather that they plan to open a rubble account and they plan to pay in either euro or dollar.

There is no where in the article where it says they are now paying in euro, dollars or rubble.

All the article tells us is their challenges, their assumptions and their intentions.


Then, show us where the EU is paying in rubbles, this should not be hard for you to do.
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by plaindealer: 12:03am On Apr 23, 2022
Dottore:

Simple and quick question sir? Who gets the Euro and USD payment? is it to whose advantages? Thanks


Of what relevance is this question?

1. You said you want your product paid for in Rubbles, but I said no.

2. I pay your bank in Euros and dollars and your bank do aboki FX into rubbles.

Does this mean you received Euros and Dollars from me?

Whatever you do with your Euro and dollar payment is your problem, even if you do aboki FX to Cedi or Rupees, that's your problem.

Is it really by force to defend your lord PouTin or just inability to read and comprehend?
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by ariesbull: 12:06am On Apr 23, 2022
God1000:
Putin is a drowning man.


Germany has announced that it will stop buying Russia's gas by the end of this year, other European countries will follow suit and that despot in Moscow will have no leverage left

They have been saying that 5yrs ago... It doesn't make eco omuv sense buying gas elsewhere when you can just buy cheaper cleaner gas... They know this
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by ariesbull: 12:07am On Apr 23, 2022
ExcelDBM:
Lol, Zelensky will be low key regretting his actions by now. The peeps who egged him on have left him to his fate with the US not left out. It'll take Ukraine ages to recover from this all because they installed a US puppet and comedian as President.
even the CNN, BBC and other news aren't reporting the Ukraine �� war as it used to ne before... If he continues he will be on his own

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Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by plaindealer: 12:08am On Apr 23, 2022
DerrickzB:
[s][/s]

Stop spreading fake news!! Where did Germany say such?? Try rest


Here..

You people need to spend more time reading the news and keeping up with current affairs instead of arguing blindly on the internet.

Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by olas24u(f): 12:24am On Apr 23, 2022
pargelenis:
Kyiv is useless you say?? Is it after your Russians got their noses bloodied when trying to take over Kyiv that you now made that claim? Lake Denial can be very deep for Putin Puppets grin

They have achieved all military plans,ukraine is no match, there are some key areas, to make the country land locked and it has been achieved, there is not in kyiv, they don't plan to subjugate the people. It is not important, unless they want to change the government.
Re: EU Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles Without Breaching Sanctions by AldrichAmes: 12:29am On Apr 23, 2022
Christistruth00:


Nigeria has the Reserves to fill it and Ghana also has natural gas

grin grin

Where will Nigeria and Ghana get the natural gas to replace Russia?

Nigeria currently export almost 50% of its natural gas to Europe and it’s not even up to 10% of European gas import.

Some you just overvalue Nigeria’s oil and gas reserves/resources. Nigeria doesn’t really have much compared to the big players like Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Qatar and UAE. Russia alone owns 25% of global gas reserve. Nigeria can’t replace Russia. And Ghana is irrelevant when it comes to fossil fuel.

This is the reason why smart people know Nigeria is a poor country due to its excessive reliance on oil and gas and overvalued sense of importance when it comes to fossil fuel. It doesn’t even make $60 billion annually from oil and gas export (80% of that money gets stolen by kleptocrats). But countries like Russia and Iran are making over $300billion and over $200billion annually from oil/gas export alone despite sanctions. And they don’t have Nigeria’s huge population.

Let me add that the claim of Nigeria being oil/gas rich is overstated in context of the huge population and oil/gas reserves. The only thing keeping Nigeria afloat is remittance from Nigerian diaspora. Nigeria is basically the African version of Pakistan.

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