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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:59am On Apr 22, 2022
BlueRayDick:


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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:06am On Apr 22, 2022
ObaIgwe1:


I am glad we won and I am happy Nketiah found the net twice. But forgive me, I'm yet to be convinced he has arrived or won the CF position. Between him and Laca it's still like a toss of coin to me. Maybe with few more matches though...

I pray he or Laca keep finding the net. Even if we survive this season on a great note, we still need to get a proven top striker for next season, and I will still want Nketiah to sign a new contract with us... He is young and can still improve.
It's OK not to be fully convinced. But I am.

It will take Lacazette a strong showing from the bench like he did against Palace (H) to displace Nketiah.

I rate players on three fronts,
1) Talent
2) Ability or intelligence
3) Experience

A combination of the three determines my choice.

Lacazette has the experience, and will be useful against bigger opposition. But if the opposition is a smaller team, experience won't mean much compared to talent and ability.

Nketiah is more talented and intelligent in my opinion and will do better in most games.

Lacazette is currently out of form, but his experience will be useful especially coming off the bench.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:53am On Apr 22, 2022
Spy360:

It's OK not to be fully convinced. But I am.

It will take Lacazette a strong showing from the bench like he did against Palace (H) to displace Nketiah.

I rate players on three fronts,
1) Talent
2) Ability or intelligence
3) Experience

A combination of the three determines my choice.

Lacazette has the experience, and will be useful against bigger opposition. But if the opposition is a smaller team, experience won't mean much compared to talent and ability.

Nketiah is more talented and intelligent in my opinion and will do better in most games.

Lacazette is currently out of form, but his experience will be useful especially coming off the bench.
This is the main reason I wouldn't call you guru Nanak yet. I mean, any player that loses form will be replaced. Even me don dey shout for him replacement since he wasn't offering anything again.

It's a normal something...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:01am On Apr 22, 2022
Spy360:

The value of experience players

Lokonga may be the better player in terms of talent and ability, but Elneny's experience was invaluable in that match especially during the second half. He wasn't fazed by the task of marking the opposition, and kept his nerves when under tight situations. Little things that matter big.

Lokonga may want to learn one or two things from that performance.
This was one of the qualities I was that got me worried that Lokonga mostly lacks and it was very crucial.
I just hope Elneny brings that same form going into Man u match.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 10:05am On Apr 22, 2022
Jodera:
This is the main reason I wouldn't call you guru Nanak yet. I mean, any player that loses form will be replaced. Even me don dey shout for him replacement since he wasn't offering anything again.

It's a normal something...
But he's been out of form even before Aubameyang left. I said this long before Auba left. I said an out of form Aubameyang was better than him.

It only became obvious to you after I castigated his performances as just ginger which you argued. You only later started seeing things my way if not you would still think he was helping out in midfield as a false 9.

I have been calling for Nketiah since February during my claim that Nketiah will bench him before season is over which most of the people here laughed at except Blueray.

So using one line out of context will not stop you for naming me your Guru.

Nketiah will start against Man United. Agree or not?

Arteta eye don clear, he now even prefer Martinelli in CF than Laca.

Lacazette will still be useful when we need goals and some ginger which is what he is really good at.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 10:08am On Apr 22, 2022
Jodera:
This was one of the qualities I was that got me worried that Lokonga mostly lacks and it was very crucial.
I just hope Elneny brings that same form going into Man u match.

The problem with trusting such players for their experience only is that they soon fade and run out of ideas. They are better off the bench than starting when pace mean more.

I would prefer to start Lokonga and then bring in Elneny to finish the game.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 10:39am On Apr 22, 2022
Spy360:

The problem with trusting such players for their experience only is that they soon fade and run out of ideas. They are better off the bench than starting when pace mean more.

I would prefer to start Lokonga and then bring in Elneny to finish the game.
.
Abeg start what works.
Elneny to pair xhaka. in the middle from now on.
Nketia to start.

I said martinelli is beta a CF. He needs to understand the role (less running and more precision).
Beat your man and shoot to score.
He needs coaching.

Modified:
Laca should come in as sub to see if he can effect game and improve his form.

Elneny n xhaka should pair for now.
Back three with holding,. back 4 when defending with tavares.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:18pm On Apr 22, 2022
Lush100:
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Abeg start what works.
Elneny to pair xhaka. in the middle from now on.
Nketia to start.
I said martinelli is beta a CF. He needs to understand the role (less running and more precision).
Beat your man and shoot to score.
He needs coaching.
Martinelli can play CF but stay on the left. It's simple.

You guys shouting Elneny upandan will soon begin to lament when he does Elnenyish things. Abeg, he was good Vs Chelsea and his experience came to fore, but he is not long term reliable. Lokonga will bring the initial pace needed and Elneny will finish the game when his experience and composure is most needed.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Bjteensdes24: 4:34pm On Apr 22, 2022
Wow! As a Man U fan, I would like Arteta to start Lokonga intead of Elneny it will be interesting seeing that mehn! Arteta please hear the cry of your fans here, start Lokonga grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SonG113(m): 4:46pm On Apr 22, 2022
Spy360:

Martinelli can play CF but stay on the left. It's simple.

You guys shouting Elneny upandan will soon begin to lament when he does Elnenyish things. Abeg, he was good Vs Chelsea and his experience came to fore, but he is not long term reliable. Lokonga will bring the initial pace needed and Elneny will finish the game when his experience and composure is most needed.


Which lokonga...I no wan see that guy for line up at all...dat slow snail
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:09pm On Apr 22, 2022
Spy360:

But he's been out of form even before Aubameyang left. I said this long before Auba left. I said an out of form Aubameyang was better than him.

It only became obvious to you after I castigated his performances as just ginger which you argued. You only later started seeing things my way if not you would still think he was helping out in midfield as a false 9.

I have been calling for Nketiah since February during my claim that Nketiah will bench him before season is over which most of the people here laughed at except Blueray.

So using one line out of context will not stop you for naming me your Guru.

Nketiah will start against Man United. Agree or not?

Arteta eye don clear, he now even prefer Martinelli in CF than Laca.

Lacazette will still be useful when we need goals and some ginger which is what he is really good at.
I didn't see things your way. I only try to see things from a logical Pov before deciding my next action.

Me calling for Lacazette bench was because he wasn't doing the things that he was doing when he was handed the CF role after Auba departure. You look at only goals, Arteta looks at other facets of the game he brings aside goals. Once those facets isn't being brought to the table it's logical for him to be dropped. Simple!. Same way I said let them drop Auba for Laca cos he dropped form and was infuriating to watch is same way I'm saying (and I said) let them drop Laca for Nketiah or Martinelli. All is for the glory of the team.
So it's not about being Arteta eyes don clear, but it's all about Arteta being objective and logical in his reasoning and not being stubborn
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:14pm On Apr 22, 2022
Spy360:

Martinelli can play CF but stay on the left. It's simple.

You guys shouting Elneny upandan will soon begin to lament when he does Elnenyish things. Abeg, he was good Vs Chelsea and his experience came to fore, but he is not long term reliable. Lokonga will bring the initial pace needed and Elneny will finish the game when his experience and composure is most needed.
Elneny played fine game against Chelsea.
Nketiah played fine game against Chelsea
We've gotten the much needed result we need

But you want Elneny dropped and Nketiah to start. No be JuJu be that? grin

Moreover, the Lokonga you're clamouring for is who was starting when Southampton and Brighton dey collect 6point for our head.

Until Elneny fvcks up from now on, he'll be seeing matches till the end of the season over Sambi. Same as Nketiah.

Let Elneny start doing his Elnenyish things let's talk. After all the lonkongish things wey Sambi dey serve us make us bin don troway hope for top 4
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:20pm On Apr 22, 2022
Lush100:
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Abeg start what works.
Elneny to pair xhaka. in the middle from now on.
Nketia to start.

I said martinelli is beta a CF. He needs to understand the role (less running and more precision).
Beat your man and shoot to score.
He needs coaching.

Modified:
Laca should come in as sub to see if he can effect game and improve his form.

Elneny n xhaka should pair for now.
Back three with holding,. back 4 when defending with tavares.

it's that simple. No coach won't start what works that's why it was imperative for players to seize their opportunities when presented with one.

Imagine the psyche it'll have on Elneny after giving such an impressive display only to install Lokonga over him.
Like say Lokonga na Partey wey dey come from injury
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 6:00pm On Apr 22, 2022
Spy360:

Martinelli can play CF but stay on the left. It's simple.

You guys shouting Elneny upandan will soon begin to lament when he does Elnenyish things. Abeg, he was good Vs Chelsea and his experience came to fore, but he is not long term reliable. Lokonga will bring the initial pace needed and Elneny will finish the game when his experience and composure is most needed.

Lokonga has not done anything to deserve starting shirt going forward ; know this and know peace!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 7:57pm On Apr 22, 2022
Lmao
Awilo lokongba ketu ketu keretutu
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 7:58pm On Apr 22, 2022
We are in advance talk with Gabriel Jesus, well I like him and a real fan of his
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:01pm On Apr 22, 2022
50d33q:
Lmao
Awilo lokongba ketu ketu keretutu
grin grin grin
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:01pm On Apr 22, 2022
50d33q:
We are in advance talk with Gabriel Jesus, well I like him and a real fan of his
Hmmmm... cry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Bjteensdes24: 10:33pm On Apr 22, 2022
50d33q:
We are in advance talk with Gabriel Jesus, well I like him and a real fan of his
Selfish player grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 12:32am On Apr 23, 2022
50d33q:
We are in advance talk with Gabriel Jesus, well I like him and a real fan of his

Do I like this move? Honestly, I am indifferent right now, especially if the plan is to play him through the middle as a 9. I thought we would pursue someone slightly taller with good movement, holdup play and a decent aerial threat, considering how much we cross the ball angry.

I don’t know how much difference there is between Martinelli and Jesus. I would hate for us to get Jesus and then he starts shunting to the wings instead of playing from the middle.

We need a player of his quality though. Let’s see how it pans out.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:38am On Apr 23, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Lokonga has not done anything to deserve starting shirt going forward ; know this and know peace!
I think he will start against United or get on as a sub. That's my feeling. I don't trust Elneny. I agree he did well but that was in the second half, he was all over the place in the first. I think what helped him was his experience which made him keep his nerves when we were defending.

You don't have to see what I see.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:40am On Apr 23, 2022
Jodera:
Elneny played fine game against Chelsea.
Nketiah played fine game against Chelsea
We've gotten the much needed result we need

But you want Elneny dropped and Nketiah to start. No be JuJu be that? grin

Moreover, the Lokonga you're clamouring for is who was starting when Southampton and Brighton dey collect 6point for our head.

Until Elneny fvcks up from now on, he'll be seeing matches till the end of the season over Sambi. Same as Nketiah.

Let Elneny start doing his Elnenyish things let's talk. After all the lonkongish things wey Sambi dey serve us make us bin don troway hope for top 4
I already agree he was good against Chelsea but that was when we were defending deep. His experience was useful then. But Lokonga is an overall better player, he must have learned one or two things from the way Elneny was calm when marking.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:08am On Apr 23, 2022
Spy360:

I already agree he was good against Chelsea but that was when we were defending deep. His experience was useful then. But Lokonga is an overall better player, he must have learned one or two things from the way Elneny was calm when marking.

lol.....whataboutism at is very best. Oya Mention one game Lokonga was That good since he joined arsenal ; let's see if u actually saw something in him or u ar just hoping he will become a better player in the nearest future.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 5:34am On Apr 23, 2022
Roland17:


Do I like this move? Honestly, I am indifferent right now, especially if the plan is to play him through the middle as a 9. I thought we would pursue someone slightly taller with good movement, holdup play and a decent aerial threat, considering how much we cross the ball angry.

I don’t know how much difference there is between Martinelli and Jesus. I would hate for us to get Jesus and then he starts shunting to the wings instead of playing from the middle.

We need a player of his quality though. Let’s see how it pans out.
report has it that we are going for 2 strikers if nkeitah leaves with laca.


So I think that the 2nd striker we will be gunning for will be a more direct 9 like osimeh, while G.Jesus will be the supporting striker that can play in the wings too
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 5:41am On Apr 23, 2022
Spy360:

I think he will start against United or get on as a sub. That's my feeling. I don't trust Elneny. I agree he did well but that was in the second half, he was all over the place in the first. I think what helped him was his experience which made him keep his nerves when we were defending.

You don't have to see what I see.
the worst mistake arteta will make is to start lokonja against that man united midfield


Bruno fernades will have a great game if a player like lokonja is in that midfield
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 6:23am On Apr 23, 2022
Nketiah will most likely leave at the end of the season if Arsenal signs a new striker and he's not assured of a starting role in the coming season.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:08am On Apr 23, 2022
kodded:
the worst mistake arteta will make is to start lokonja against that man united midfield


Bruno fernades will have a great game if a player like lokonja is in that midfield
Bruno might play as a CDM today..I fear who no fear Uncle Rauf...
Last weekend against Norwich,he played Pogba, Lingard and Bruno in Midfield.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:06am On Apr 23, 2022
Spy360:

I already agree he was good against Chelsea but that was when we were defending deep. His experience was useful then. But Lokonga is an overall better player, he must have learned one or two things from the way Elneny was calm when marking.
He hasn't shown this yet, at least not this season. Another thing is that during our early days this season, it was Partey and Sambi pairing that we used. Not that it was even that efficient tbh. We've also seen that Xhaka and Sambi doesn't work, so it's better we use Xhaka and Elneny that have worked till otherwise.

Elneny might be inconsistent but on his day, you'll love him. We'll just pray he brings those A game days more than otherwise. Lokonga haven't even shown any A game yet
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:06am On Apr 23, 2022
Roland17:


Do I like this move? Honestly, I am indifferent right now, especially if the plan is to play him through the middle as a 9. I thought we would pursue someone slightly taller with good movement, holdup play and a decent aerial threat, considering how much we cross the ball angry.

I don’t know how much difference there is between Martinelli and Jesus. I would hate for us to get Jesus and then he starts shunting to the wings instead of playing from the middle.

We need a player of his quality though. Let’s see how it pans out.
Agree with you 100%
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:08am On Apr 23, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Nketiah will most likely leave at the end of the season if Arsenal signs a new striker and he's not assured of a starting role in the coming season.
I think it's best he moves. It's better for his career. I don't think Arteta trusts him enough to want to start him next season except his starts banging goals from now till the end of the season
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:09am On Apr 23, 2022
mostob:
Bruno might play as a CDM today..I fear who no fear Uncle Rauf...
Last weekend against Norwich,he played Pogba, Lingard and Bruno in Midfield.
What happened to Mctom and Fred?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 10:15am On Apr 23, 2022
Roland17:


Do I like this move? Honestly, I am indifferent right now, especially if the plan is to play him through the middle as a 9. I thought we would pursue someone slightly taller with good movement, holdup play and a decent aerial threat, considering how much we cross the ball angry.

I don’t know how much difference there is between Martinelli and Jesus. I would hate for us to get Jesus and then he starts shunting to the wings instead of playing from the middle.

We need a player of his quality though. Let’s see how it pans out.
Firstly I have given up on our CF scoring head ball as our delivery is bad
Secondly I look out for technic and skill for our CF especially after what lacazette with good hold up play use our eyes see
I think arteta is seeing martinelli as winger instead of CF

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