El Elohe Yahshrael!

The main platform that has given women the opportunity to exercise spiritual authority over men is witchcraft.

They know.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

True.

Apt.

When they do, it may be a sign of judgment.

What exactly do you mean by spiritual authority?

paxonel:
What exactly do you mean by spiritual authority?

Don't you know what spiritual authority means? What does spiritual mean? What is authority?

elated177:



Don't you know what spiritual authority means? What does spiritual mean? What is authority?

I know authority.
What then is spiritual?

paxonel:
I know authority.
What then is spiritual?

You don't know what spiritual means?

I am very delighted that Eve exercised authority over Adam. If she hadn't, humans would still be naked ignorant afraid to die slaves in the garden of Eden instead of open eyed wisdom seeking earth populating and about to go to Mars humans.

paxonel:
I know authority.
What then is spiritual?

Authority is offices where one is superior to another, spirituality is where sacred service is carried out.
So women can lead as Presidents, Governors, Senators, Reps, Chairman of local government and in so many other PUBLIC offices where men are under her AUTHORITY but whatever has to do with sacred service (worship) women must remain silent and sit behind!

MaxInDHouse:


Authority is offices where one is superior to another, spirituality is where sacred service is carried out.
So women can lead as Presidents, Governors, Senators, Reps, Chairman of local government and in so many other PUBLIC offices where men are under her AUTHORITY but whatever has to do with sacred service (worship) women must remain silent and sit behind!

Thankfully, we refuse to remain silent even in sacred service where we've seen the mess you make of things.

MaxInDHouse:


Authority is offices where one is superior to another, spirituality is where sacred service is carried out.
So women can lead as Presidents, Governors, Senators, Reps, Chairman of local government and in so many other PUBLIC offices where men are under her AUTHORITY but whatever has to do with sacred service (worship) women must remain silent and sit behind!

ok,

Have you heard about the term spiritual father?
When i say Pastor Adeboye is my spiritual father what does that implies, that pastor Adeboye is the one in charge of my spirit?

paxonel:
ok,
Have you heard about the term spiritual father?
When i say Pastor Adeboye is my spiritual father what does that implies, that pastor Adeboye is the one in charge of my spirit?

Hmmmmmmmmm, well this is a sensitive one!

The title "FATHER" can be used in many ways so let's analyse it. Firstly a man who fathered a child, secondly one who always covers your back in times of need, thirdly one who teaches you so many things in life just like his own child.
Jesus said we shouldn't call anyone "our father" on earth {Matthew 23:9} but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call our biological father "FATHER"
So what exactly does he mean?
Well he's talking about seeing someone like the person who should define righteousness for you even though what he taught you won't yield positivity anywhere!
Such teachings only ends within the person's domain he won't take it anywhere further, so their righteousness is self they only use it to keep you under them, they won't teach it elsewhere since they know it's not going to work out anything positive in any society.

Such fathers only gather gullible followers and teach them their own righteousness so each of such fathers have formed their own religion and they're rivals to one another!

But real fathers will teach you God's word that is PRACTICALLY APPLICABLE everywhere so they will not relate as teachers with anyone who doesn't teach what they know is God's standard!

budaatum:

Thankfully, we refuse to remain silent even in sacred service where we've seen the mess you make of things.

Why taking it personal? Are u wiser than God that ordain it?

morinto:

Why taking it personal? Are u wiser than God that ordain it?

No God ordained any such nonsense, and if any God is stupid enough to it should be shot.

morinto:

Why taking it personal? Are u wiser than God that ordain it?

True Christians don't argue! Titus 3:9
We are to present the standard God set in the Bible, the only thing we try to do is expatiate if the need arises. Matthew 28:20
But when it's clear that the one listening has chosen to criticize God's word we must take our leave. Matthew 10:14-15
It's not my opinion that she's rejecting but the standard God set as recorded in the Bible! 1Samuel 8:7

The strong independent woman feminist no go gree for this one!

MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmmmm, well this is a sensitive one!

The title "FATHER" can be used in many ways so let's analyse it. Firstly a man who fathered a child, secondly one who always covers your back in times of need, thirdly one who teaches you so many things in life just like his own child.
Jesus said we shouldn't call anyone "our father" on earth {Matthew 23:9} but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call our biological father "FATHER"
So what exactly does he mean?
Well he's talking about seeing someone like the person who should define righteousness for you even though what he taught you won't yield positivity anywhere!
Such teachings only ends within the person's domain he won't take it anywhere further, so their righteousness is self they only use it to keep you under them, they won't teach it elsewhere since they know it's not going to work out anything positive in any society.

Such fathers only gather gullible followers and teach them their own righteousness so each of such fathers have formed their own religion and they're rivals to one another!

But real fathers will teach you God's word that is PRACTICALLY APPLICABLE everywhere so they will not relate as teachers with anyone who doesn't teach what they know is God's standard!

so, will you say spiritual fathers have anything to do with the spirit realm or they are called spiritual fathers because they established churches.

What if a woman establish church, is she then not qualified to be called spiritual mother to any man who is a member of her church?

paxonel:

so, will you say spiritual fathers have anything to do with the spirit realm or they are called spiritual fathers because they established churches.

What if a woman establish church, is she then not qualified to be called spiritual mother to any man who is a member of her church?

The establishment of churches (congregations) wasn't the way people does today!

In the Act of Apostles they assigned two qualified Men (Paul and Barnabas) to travel from place to place each with a companion. In each city they reach they begin preaching from house to house or speak to individuals in their market places {Act 20:20} this goes on for some time and when they find interested ones they will return to such individuals to establish a free Bible study with him {Act 15:36} and afterwards look for a place where they can gather the interested persons so that a church (congregation) is formed. It may be in the house of any of the interested persons {Philemon 1:2} that they're meeting as a group but women weren't allowed to lead unless where there's no baptized males so for the main time the qualified (baptized female) must always cover her head or shave it off completely whenever she must stand in front of the congregation where men are present to teach because she's representing Christ our king who never chose a female Apostle! 1Corinthians 11:3-6

So it's unchristian for a woman to wake up one day and think of establishing a church, please it's not a business but God's work and it was assigned for men to take the lead while women sits at the rare, they're not permitted to speak (teach) in the presence of qualified Men! 1Timothy 2:11-13; 1Corinthians 14:34-35


Jesus chose Paul as the last Apostle to teach us all these {Act 9:15; 1Timothy 2:7} so whoever goes against this orders is indirectly fighting against Jesus himself!

Budaatum, do you still believe your "strong woman = strong world" mantra?

The disobedient action of Eve threw the entire world into chaos and it has remained so to this day. Whether you like it or not, believe it or not, budaatum, women weren't created to roam like sheep without shepherds. Nope! Just imagine the kind of problems the little space and freedom that Adam gave to Eve created in the world. The entire world has not been the same to this day.

Can you not see the effects of the absence of a good, responsible father figure in the lives of people, especially males, in the society? When I say good and responsible father figure, I mean the one who knows and follows the ways of our Father in heaven. Infact, one sure way of creating a society, just like the one we have today, is to weaken or reduce the influence of a married man in his home/family. This is a careful orchestration of the forces of wickedness. I suspect you, budaatum, are part of them. Your words and actions here speak clearly.

All the descendants of Jezebel know themselves.

You need to go and educate yourself on how men have used this your stupid belief to oppress women all through history.

I can just about see you arguing that Europeans were created to have spiritual authority over Africans too, and that I should see how badly African countries are doing now they are independent.

elated177:
Budaatum, do you still believe your "strong woman = strong world" mantra?

Out of interest, did you have a bad mother who showed you the wrong model for women?

Probably in your own culture, budaatum, women have never been oppressed in my own culture or part of the world. And what stupid belief? Whether you like it or not, accept it or not, when women exercise spiritual authority over men, things go wrong in the family and the society.

Budaatum, funny that you dragged race into this. Well, since you have started it, are you saying that you do not know that the Europeans are and have been exercising spiritual authority over Africans from time immemorial? I didn't say that they were created to exercise spiritual authority over Africans. Nope! Women are women all over the world, irrespective of race., and they were not created to exercise any kind of spiritual authority over men. Things go wrong when fathers fail to take up their roles as the spiritual heads of their families.

Are African countries truly independent? How many of them are truly independent? Ehehehehe! Don't even get me started.

The males and females were not created to be in any kind of competition. Nope! It was Satan that put certain ideas into the females to think so and, by that, have made them bitter towards the males. These days, it is almost like an abomination for some women to embrace their God-ordained femininity and have come to detest men who exhibit their masculinity.

Through witchcraft, many of them have emasculated their husbands and wear them like they wear their pants. Ehehehehe! Chai!

Nahum 3: Woe to the city of blood, full of lies, full of plunder,.never without victims!
2 The crack of whips, the clatter of wheels,
galloping horses and jolting chariots! 3 Charging cavalry, flashing swords and glittering spears! Many casualties, piles of dead, bodies without number, people stumbling over the corpses— 4 all because of the wanton lust of a prostitute, alluring, the mistress of sorceries, who enslaved nations by her prostitution and peoples by her witchcraft.
5 “I am against you,” declares YHVH Almighty. “I will lift your skirts over your face. I will show the nations your unclothedness and the kingdoms your shame.

elated177:
Probably in your own culture, budaatum, women have never been oppressed in my own culture or part of the world.

I have never said this to anyone on here but I'm going to say it to you. I don't read past the first few lines of your post because even the tiny bit I do read is not worth the bother.

If you get your head unstuck from where you normally stick it, which is usually up some gay person's ass, that might change, but currently, you quoting me to attract attention to your thread is just you being a nuisance and a pest and an attempt to make buda stink like you do, at which you are sure to fail.

Go find something to do please and leave me out of your stupidity and ignorance. I don't have time to waste on you.

Budaatum, the pain and anger in your last comment were so concentrated that the stench, which they created, reeked offline. Ehehehehe!

On the contrary, I know that you usually gulp down everything I post here. It is only after you digest it that your system cannot handle the truth it carries. Ehehehehe!

As for drawing attention, ehehehehe, those of who know our worth and value, who know what we are made of, know that wherever we are, we are needed far more than we need them. May this truthful fact, lol, not choke you, budaatum.

Ehehehehe!

budaatum:
I am very delighted that Eve exercised authority over Adam. If she hadn't, humans would still be naked ignorant afraid to die slaves in the garden of Eden instead of open eyed wisdom seeking earth populating and about to go to Mars humans.

Most sensible comment so far

Yemaya:


Most sensible comment so far

You are one of very few people who actually understand that comment, so I have no choice but to follow you.