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Maynman:
Jesus clearly said what? Inside revelations? When did Jesus die? When was revelations written? Who is the author of revelations? When was revelations added to the Bible? Bwahahahah

"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John" Revelations 1:1 NWT

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly, come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John" Revelations 1:1 Holy Bible

"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John" NIV

"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants what must soon take place; and he made it known by sending his angel to his servant John" Revelations 1:1 RVS

Hope you can see the author from different versions now. So keep following me and you'll learn great things!

MaxInDHouse:
"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John" Revelations 1:1 NWT

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly, come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John" Revelations 1:1 Holy Bible

"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John" NIV

"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants what must soon take place; and he made it known by sending his angel to his servant John" Revelations 1:1 RVS

Hope you can see the author from different versions now. So keep following me and you'll learn great things!

Which John wrote the book of revelations? Is it John cena?
Did “John” ever write it or the Catholic just fixed an author for the book?
When did Jesus die? When was revelations written? When was revelations added to the Bible?

cornelboy:
I fully grasp that sir.
The man I study with has moved from Bethel at Benin city to Abuja some few weeks ago. He's been serving voluntarily for a long time with his wife.

Anyone studying with you presently?
If not hurry up now, there's no time to waste, follow the below application and get another brother in Benin city, you must complete your study, attend meetings regularly, go out to declare your faith in your neighbourhood and get baptized for salvation! Matthew 28:19-20

https://www.jw.org/sfs/jehovahs-witnesses/free-bible-study/

When all evildoers are no more, see you there in PARADISE!

MaxInDHouse:
"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John" Revelations 1:1 NWT

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly, come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John" Revelations 1:1 Holy Bible

"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John" NIV

"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants what must soon take place; and he made it known by sending his angel to his servant John" Revelations 1:1 RVS

Hope you can see the author from different versions now. So keep following me and you'll learn great things!

Don’t forget to show me which part, “Jesus said clearly”
Did Jesus say anything or the unknown slave called “John”?

Maynman:
Which John wrote the book of revelations? Is it John cena?
Did “John” ever write it or the Catholic just fixed an author for the book?
When did Jesus die? When was revelations written? When was revelations added to the Bible?

When you see all Bible believers silent on a topic without arguing, know that such is indisputable.
But if you truly want to know i've told you and i will continue to tell you that you must humbly and politely ask questions to gain insight, you can't force what you read in untrusted links on anyone, what you need to do is ascertain the authenticity of such Link by the POSITIVE RESULTS of what you read! Matthew 7:16-18

Even the African culture you want to fight for you don't even know anything about it than what you find on links yet it's not practicable anywhere!

MaxInDHouse:
When you see all Bible believers silent on a topic without arguing, know that such is indisputable.
But if you truly want to know i've told you and i will continue to tell you that you must humbly and politely ask questions to gain insight, you can't force what you read in untrusted links on anyone, what you need to do is ascertain the authenticity of such Link by the POSITIVE RESULTS of what you read! Matthew 7:16-18

Even the African culture you want to fight for you don't even know anything about it than what you find on links yet it's not practicable anywhere!

You’ve become empty like your Jehovah?
Just tell me which John wrote revelations, you don’t know?
And also tel me when Jesus said anything in revelations that was written years after he died.

Didn’t you say that esu is the same as satan in African culture. are you not fighting against esu then? Bwahahahah
You know africa culture so much, esu is Satan and eleda means angel according to what watchtower told you.

Maynman:
Which John wrote the book of revelations? Is it John cena?
Did “John” ever write it or the Catholic just fixed an author for the book?
When did Jesus die? When was revelations written? When was revelations added to the Bible?

You're confused, just beating around the bush, was it not u dat said catholic wanted to remove revelation from the bible becos of the stupid fallacies, now u're saying it here catholic added it to the bible.
Don't you knw the meaning of revelation? Everything in revelation are vision including what jesus told him, it wasn't physical, it's beyond physical it's in spiritual realm.
Revelation was written 96CE in asia minor by "john the elder"

Obafavour:
You're confused, just beating around the bush, was it not u dat said catholic wanted to remove revelation from the bible becos of the stupid fallacies, now u're saying it here catholic added it to the bible.
Don't you knw the meaning of revelation? Everything in revelation are vision including what jesus told him, it wasn't physical, it's beyond physical it's in spiritual realm.
Revelation was written 96CE in asia minor by "john the elder"

Illiterate, when was revelations added to the Bible? How long did it take to be finally accepted? Why were they debating to add it or not?

Very well, Who is John the elder? Did he ever meet Jesus?

Maynman:
Illiterate, when was revelations added to the Bible? How long did it take to be finally accepted? Why were they debating to add it or not?

Very well, Who is John the elder? Did he ever meet Jesus?

You still keep beating around the bush.
Why do you think they later added it to the bible?

Maynman:
You’ve become empty like your Jehovah?
Just tell me which John wrote revelations, you don’t know?
And also tel me when Jesus said anything in revelations that was written years after he died. Didn’t you say that esu is the same as satan in African culture. are you not fighting against esu then? Bwahahahah
You know africa culture so much, esu is Satan and eleda means angel according to what watchtower told you.

Keep arguing with everyone, you're right!

MaxInDHouse:
Keep arguing with everyone, you're right!

According to the Yoruba history told to you by watchtower, esu is Satan right. And eleda is angel.

Keep obeying facts from your masters in watchtower.

Obafavour:
You still keep beating around the bush.
Why do you think they later added it to the bible?

Who set up the CANON that decides which book was worth adding and removing? Is it the Catholic?

Maynman:
Who set up the CANON that decides which book was worth adding and removing? Is it the Catholic?

What's your point?

Obafavour:
What's your point?

The Christian Bible is a creation of the Roman Catholic. If not for emperor Constantine, there won’t be anything called “Christianity” now.
Look up “Catholic epistle”.

There’s a lot you don’t know about your religion, especially Yahweh the son of Elohim.

Maynman:
According to the Yoruba history told to you by watchtower, esu is Satan right. And eleda is angel.Keep obeying facts from your masters in watchtower.

I have over 8 millions of brothers and sisters throughout the world faithfully OBEYING the same masters, and we are happily living as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally.
I will continue OBEYING them instead of you who has nothing to show for your blind arguments than links that's not yielding any positive results!

Maynman:
The Christian Bible is a creation of the Roman Catholic. If not for emperor Constantine, there won’t be anything called “Christianity” now.
Look up “Catholic epistle”.

There’s a lot you don’t know about your religion, especially Yahweh the son of Elohim.

You're still pointless

Obafavour:
You're still pointless

To a indoctrinated sheep.

MaxInDHouse:
I have over 8 millions of brothers and sisters throughout the world faithfully OBEYING the same masters, and we are happily living as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally.
I will continue OBEYING them instead of you who has nothing to show for your blind arguments than links that's not yielding any positive results!

It’s your brothers in watchtower that told you that Esu is Satan right. And eleda is angel.
Keep obeying facts from your masters(brothers) in watchtower.

Maynman:
To a indoctrinated sheep.

Everyone knew catholics combined the bible, so there is no point in what you're saying.
The elohim or the yahweh you're wailing about are nt the ones christians are worshiping, those are material gods of isreal.
But we serve the almighty GOD.

Obafavour:
Everyone knew catholics combined the bible, so there is no point in what you're saying.
The elohim or the yahweh you're wailing about are nt the ones christians are worshiping, those are material gods of isreal.
But we serve the almighty GOD.

Did you know how “Catholic” came to be?
Who are the “church fathers” in this “Catholic who set up canon?
Does everyone know also that “Catholic” created the trinity?
And I thought everyone said Bible was inspired by god? It seems it was inspired by the church fathers in Catholic with the help of emperor Constantine they Catholic were cherry picking the book that suit the Roman Empire. That’s why it is said that Christians are PAGANS.

God is a title not a person. Zeus is a god, Jupiter is a god. Stop disgracing yourself.
And I’m glad you’ve said that Elohim and Yahweh are nothing more than Israelites gods.

What’s the name of your god?

Dtruthspeaker:
You people and your twistings just to avoid the unpleasant Truth

God Already Said your body is useless and it is your spirit he is interested in. The body is just a cloth covering the spirit.

And He has told you that what we call die is "sleeping" aka Rest, certainly not for the cloth we see which has turned to dust.

Therefore, Resurrection is about awakening of the spirit.

Therefore, it is the spirit, who ye are that will be destroyed in the lake of fire.

However, by the Ezekiel's dry bones, it may well be a resurrection of both the body and spirit and both would be thrown into the lake of Fire whole.



I Don't know about this part and would not speak on it since The Lord did not Speak on this part.

Spirits don't burn bro.

Maynman:
Then you cannot speak about it. You only have assumptions z

And you see I did not speak about it, but it is you who asked me to speak about, what I did not speak about!

Dtruthspeaker:
And you see I did not speak about it.

You only whisper about it.

MaxInDHouse:
Anyone studying with you presently?
If not hurry up now, there's no time to waste, follow the below application and get another brother in Benin city, you must complete your study, attend meetings regularly, go out to declare your faith in your neighbourhood and get baptized for salvation! Matthew 28:19-20

https://www.jw.org/sfs/jehovahs-witnesses/free-bible-study/

When all evildoers are no more, see you there in PARADISE!

I'm still with them.

Dtruthspeaker:
You people and your twistings just to avoid the unpleasant Truth
God Already Said your body is useless and it is your spirit he is interested in. The body is just a cloth covering the spirit.
And He has told you that what we call die is "sleeping" aka Rest, certainly not for the cloth we see which has turned to dust.
Therefore, Resurrection is about awakening of the spirit.
Therefore, it is the spirit, who ye are that will be destroyed in the lake of fire.
However, by the Ezekiel's dry bones, it may well be a resurrection of both the body and spirit and both would be thrown into the lake of Fire whole.
I Don't know about this part and would not speak on it since The Lord did not Speak on this part.

You no even sure of yourself you dé talk say we dé twist.

Dtruthspeaker:
I am not the one who made it.

You go dè run mouth everywhere. You no know shingbain. Keep your assumptions.

tctrills:
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and [b]death and hell [/b]delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Question; Explain this verse... Revelation 20:10
And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

The book of shouldn't be taken as literal at all.
What do you think the false prophet and the beast symbolise? Or you think they are literal?

Chapter 14 should help you understand that lake of fire symbolises eternal destruction.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Question; What is death and what is hell?

Death is abstract just like hell. Hell in some Bible was translated "realm of the dead".

Mathew 10:28 " fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell" . Some Bible versions will say destroy both spirit and body in hell . However, In the scriptures you will observe that soul and spirit is often used interchangeably, and mean the same thing in such instances when it's used.

It shouldn't matter to you what the spirit is made of, because He that made it, said he has power to destroy it.

That's why I tell believers, rather than engage in unnecessary arguments, obey the commandments of God, do good and wait for Jesus's return, simple, since too many churches have sprang up, with different doctrines. It is not the doctrines that will save you nor the arguments, if you obey the word of God, then you have nothing to worry concerning what will happen when Jesus returns.

Maynman:
What’s the substance that the spirit is made of that it can get burnt? Does the spirit have feelings? Legs? Bones?

Read Mat. 20:28 "fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. But rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell The person you have been arguing with is correct.

Uchesis:
Spirits don't burn bro.

cornelboy:
The book of shouldn't be taken as literal at all.
What do you think the false prophet and the beast symbolise? Or you think they are literal?

Chapter 14 should help you understand that lake of fire symbolises eternal destruction.


Death is abstract just like hell. Hell in some Bible was translated "realm of the dead".

Well that's your personal interpretation.

Daniel 12.2

2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
The destroyed can not suffer everlasting contempt so clearly, you are wrong. I choose to believe Prophet Daniel

LilMissFavvy:
Mathew 10:28 " fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell" . Some Bible versions will say destroy both spirit and body in hell . However, In the scriptures you will observe that soul and spirit is often used interchangeably, and mean the same thing in such instances when it's used.

It shouldn't matter to you what the spirit is made of, because He that made it, said he has power to destroy it.

That's why I tell believers, rather than engage in unnecessary arguments, obey the commandments of God, do good and wait for Jesus's return, simple, since too many churches have sprang up, with different doctrines. It is not the doctrines that will save you nor the arguments, if you obey the word of God, then you have nothing to worry concerning what will happen when Jesus returns.

Yes you yourself can see the confusion in different Bible VERSIONS. Who created this Bible versions and cherry pick words they want into it?
We can only know if it is “soul and body” or “spirit and body” when we read the original text and not VERSIONS created by different doctrines.

We should look at what other tradition apart from the JEWS/Hebrew one say especially in africa.

See what Yoruba tradition describe soul and spirit as.
They said soul means eleda, If you are a Yoruba you will know from the pronunciation of “eleda” it means creator. So who created the creator?

cornelboy:
You go dè run mouth everywhere. You no know shingbain. Keep your assumptions.

I go run mouth where The Owner don talk stop. Na you dey use your wish wey no even dey book.