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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 12:25pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
Ode....both are one!

The Father, The Word & Holy Spirit.

When the Bible was talking about NO ONE, it means the audience or anyone OUTSIDE the Godhead.

Simple comprehension is truly an issue for you.
When lack of simple comprehension is in play grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

You need Bible study.
Unless you are deluded, Both are not one person. And in fact, Being one doesn't mean we are same persons, Jesus pray his disciples are one, they are still Different persons .

So my question stands- Is it the person called " Son " or the person called " holy spirit " that knows the Father deepest ?

I repeat , both are not one person!!!
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 1:15pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
Jesus is Dumb?

Matt 5:30 "your whole body go into hell. "

Jesus emphasize repeatedly that Human body is needed in hell.

Which out right kill your idea.
You still don't get it.

Rather it kills your dumbness cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin

What appear at 1Pet is prison , no human is said to be in prison, only a dumb one interpret it to mean hell, which lead to the question

- if this is hell for humans, where are the human bodies that is thrown there?
See ignorance, so what happened in the prison?

Hell is there in 1 Peter for you cheesy cheesy grin cheesy

According to Jesus, this wicked one will go to hell with their Soul and body,

Matt 5:30 " your whole body go into hell."
Keep trying, las las your dumbness will be cured. cheesy grin cheesy grin

This point totally destroy your human in hell prison idea. Jesus never mention or describe ordinary Spirits in hell, spirit is man's breath, he rather mention human bodies Repeatedly
But spirit is different from breath cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Do you saw where it says those who died in the Sea ar not in this hell? People of Noah's day are in the sea and it's the Sea that would release them not prison. Your ideas ar total fiction.
But their spirit went to God who gave it cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

He did . He repeatedly emphasize body going to hell, not once did he mention spirit in hell, because spirit of man Is his breath
Spirit of man can't be his breath since both spirit and breath used together in the same verse cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 1:18pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
Unless you are deluded, Both are not one person.
The deluded one! Who says they ONE PERSON?

And in fact, Being one doesn't mean we are same persons,
Then who says so before, are you high on cheap thing?

Jesus pray his disciples are one, they are still Different persons .
Dumbest mind! How does it correlate with my post? cheesy grin cheesy grin

So my question stands- Is it the person called " Son " or the person called " holy spirit " that knows the Father deepest?
The answer already in my previous post.

I repeat , both are not one person!!!
Then I asked again, who says they are ONE PERSON? Dumbest thing.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 2:08pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
The deluded one! Who says they ONE PERSON?

Then who says so before, are you high on cheap thing?

Dumbest mind! How does it correlate with my post? cheesy grin cheesy grin

The answer already in my previous post.

Then I asked again, who says they are ONE PERSON? Dumbest thing.
You are back to normal, after the They are one nonsense.

Since they are different persons, who knows the Father deepest among this two persons , Son or Holy spirit ?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 2:13pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
You still don't get it.

Rather it kills your dumbness cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin

See ignorance, so what happened in the prison?

Hell is there in 1 Peter for you cheesy cheesy grin cheesy
- Whole body goes to hell, none of such in 1Pet .

- Those who died in Noah's day are in the Sea, and would be released from the waters/Sea not hell, says Revelation, not any prison.

Your ideas have no scrutiny

Keep trying, las las your dumbness will be cured. cheesy grin cheesy grin
But spirit is different from breath cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
But their spirit went to God who gave it cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Spirit of man can't be his breath since both spirit and breath used together in the same verse cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
No single reference anywhere that spirit of a man goes to hell, because it's man's breath. NONE! You are exposed as the fraud you are.

What you would find as reference to hell is human body, Which your dumb self can't even process.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Janosky: 2:26pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
- Whole body goes to hell, none of such in 1Pet .

- Those who died in Noah's day are in the Sea, and would be released from the waters/Sea not hell, says Revelation, not any prison.

Your ideas have no scrutiny



No single reference anywhere that spirit of a man goes to hell, because it's man's breath. NONE! You are exposed as the fraud you are.

What you would find as reference to hell is human body, Which your dumb self can't even process.
LYING is Emusan's sole talent. grin grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:55pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
You are back to normal, after the They are one nonsense.
Why you're still dwelling in your delusion

Since they are different persons
So who says they are the SAME PERSON before? See the mumu lying liar!

who knows the Father deepest among this two persons , Son or Holy spirit ?
Already answered! cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:58pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
- Whole body goes to hell, none of such in 1Pet .

- Those who died in Noah's day are in the Sea, and would be released from the waters/Sea not hell, says Revelation, not any prison.

Your ideas have no scrutiny
See the lying liar finding a place to hide grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

They are Spirits went to God who gave it or not? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

No single reference anywhere that spirit of a man goes to hell, because it's man's breath. NONE! You are exposed as the fraud you are.
You're not yet cure of this your lying mouth.

Spirit of man can't be breath since both were used in the same verse.

What you would find as reference to hell is human body, Which your dumb self can't even process.
Keep trying, you'll get well soon cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:59pm On May 09, 2022
Janosky:
LYING is Emusan's sole talent. grin grin
Kindly point out the lies in my post or remain silent forever like your father the Devil cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 5:22pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
See the lying liar finding a place to hide grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

They are Spirits went to God who gave it or not? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy



You're not yet cure of this your lying mouth.

Spirit of man can't be breath since both were used in the same verse.



Keep trying, you'll get well soon cheesy grin cheesy grin
He gave it when he breath into Adam, That's the question your dumb head isn't asking. How did he gave it ? Spirit of man is the breath of life God gave him

Deluded man, God gave " it "

" It "

" It "

" It"
A thing.

The verse alone should have even school your dumb head.

This is apart from the Fact that 1pet did not made mention of human body , and even Revelation made it clear those who died in the sea/water will be released by the sea .
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 5:26pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
Why you're still dwelling in your delusion
So who says they are the SAME PERSON before? See the mumu lying liar!
Already answered! cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
I only debunk your they are one vague claim. You admitted they are one does not mean same person.


As long as they are different persons, that's two persons , and one must be closer than the other going by those texts , Which ?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 5:57pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
He gave it when he breath into Adam, That's the question your dumb head isn't asking. How did he gave it ? Spirit of man is the breath of life God gave him
Just as your dumb skull still twisting cheesy cheesy grin

Did the spirit go back to God or not?

Deluded man
Confused being

God gave " it "

" It "

" It "

" It"
A thing.
Oponu..so you want it to be Him/She cheesy grin wink grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

The verse alone should have even school your dumb head.
When you lack the very understanding.

This is apart from the Fact that 1pet did not made mention of human body , and even Revelation made it clear those who died in the sea/water will be released by the sea .
Which still leave you with question, do their spirit go back to God who gave it? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 6:00pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
I only debunk your they are one vague claim.
Just imagine, did I say they ARE ONE PERSON? lying liar cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

You admitted they are one does not mean same person.
What was the dumbest thing saying self cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

As long as they are different persons, that's two persons , and one must be closer than the other going by those texts, Which ?
Already answered! You're too dull cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 6:46pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
Just as your dumb skull still twisting cheesy cheesy grin
Did the spirit go back to God or not?
Confused being

Oponu..so you want it to be Him/She cheesy grin wink grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
When you lack the very understanding.

Which still leave you with question, do their spirit go back to God who gave it? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
" It" , a thing

Still doesn't reboot your delusion, your case is sorry grin

Things are described as " it. "

- and if a Wicked person gets sent to hell, it is their whole body in hell, where is this body ? Deluded man.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 6:49pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
Just imagine, did I say they ARE ONE PERSON? lying liar cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
What was the dumbest thing saying self cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Already answered! You're too dull cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Finally you are just a deluded man.

Jesus is a person closest to the Father, while God's spirit that knows the things of God is not a person. This makes Jesus statement to be true. In terms of persons, Jesus knows the Father's thought and person than anyone else.b
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 7:01pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
Finally you are just a deluded man.
Says the dumbest thing

Jesus is a person closest to the Father, while God's spirit that knows the things of God is not a person.
Just listing to this gebbrish, GOD'S SPIRIT that KNOWS the things of God isn't a person.

Imagine, INANIMATE KNOWS SOMETHING shocked shocked shocked shockedshocked shocked

What a ridiculous statement.

This makes Jesus statement to be true. In terms of persons, Jesus knows the Father's thought and person than anyone else.
Keep it up.... cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 7:05pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
"It", a thing
And so what? Dumbest mind cheesy grin cheesy

Still doesn't reboot your delusion, your case is sorry grin
When you lack understand, do I expect more? cheesy grin cheesy

Things are described as "it."
Definitely, and what does it have to do with your delusion on this thread? cheesy grin cheesy

- and if a Wicked person gets sent to hell, it is their whole body in hell, where is this body ? Deluded man.
Says the dumbest thing cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 9:57pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
Says the dumbest thing

Just listing to this gebbrish, GOD'S SPIRIT that KNOWS the things of God isn't a person.

Imagine, INANIMATE KNOWS SOMETHING shocked shocked shocked shockedshocked shocked

What a ridiculous statement.

Keep it up.... cheesy grin cheesy grin
The same way man's spirit ,an " it" is said to know man's mind. Personification - giving inanimate things attributes

Jesus knows the Father more as far as persons are concerned . Making holy spirit a person means Jesus doesn't come close.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 9:58pm On May 09, 2022
Emusan:
And so what? Dumbest mind cheesy grin cheesy
When you lack understand, do I expect more? cheesy grin cheesy
Definitely, and what does it have to do with your delusion on this thread? cheesy grin cheesy
Says the dumbest thing cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
The spirit return to God who gave IT.

" it "

Your delusion is strong.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:04pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
The same way man's spirit ,an " it" is said to know man's mind. Personification - giving inanimate things attributes
That's the delusion I'm talking about

If it's not personification, it will be figurative or symbolic cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

We know your type.

Jesus knows the Father more as far as persons are concerned . Making holy spirit a person means Jesus doesn't come close.
At least it will make you happy! cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:59pm On May 09, 2022
RealTalker02:
The spirit return to God who gave IT

"it"

Your delusion is strong.
Yet the dumbest thing never shows how it correlate with the post cheesy grin cheesy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 4:00am On May 10, 2022
Emusan:
Yet the dumbest thing never shows how it correlate with the post cheesy grin cheesy
Ain't you dumb?

Eccl 12:7 showed you the right path already.

" and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it."

Dust= it..

Spirit = it.

Both are things.

How did God gave this spirit ? Go back to Genesis and see God breath into Adam .
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 4:03am On May 10, 2022
Emusan:
That's the delusion I'm talking about
If it's not personification, it will be figurative or symbolic cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

We know your type.
At least it will make you happy! cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin grin
Buddy, If it's not personification, means there is a person who knows the Father more than Jesus. Do you accept this ?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 8:25am On May 10, 2022
RealTalker02:
Buddy, If it's not personification, means there is a person who knows the Father more than Jesus. Do you accept this ?
Still the same dumb reply cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 8:27am On May 10, 2022
RealTalker02:
Ain't you dumb?
Not as you are dumb

Eccl 12:7 showed you the right path already.

" and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it."

Dust= it..

Spirit = it.

Both are things.

How did God gave this spirit ? Go back to Genesis and see God breath into Adam .
At least you can't deny that the spirits of the Noah's day didn't go to heaven cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

I know if possible for you, you'd have removed that part from the scripture, since it keeps putting sand sand to your garri cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 9:10am On May 10, 2022
Emusan:
Not as you are dumb
At least you can't deny that the spirits of the Noah's day didn't go to heaven cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
I know if possible for you, you'd have removed that part from the scripture, since it keeps putting sand sand to your garri cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
The bold just expose your delusion, e make sense to you ?

I don't have any problem with that scripture, Angels are called Spirits and they came down in Noah's day. They are the ones referenced

No human is punished in a prison.

No human goes to hell without their whole body .

The people of Noah's day , were released by the Sea not even hell grin grin . They died in the waters, and would be released by the sea.

Spirit of man is a thing, "it " just as Dust is an " It " ( Ecc 12:7 )

The fraud can't refute any of those points.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 9:13am On May 10, 2022
Emusan:
Still the same dumb reply cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
A reply that you couldn't fanthom or process.

The idiot said Jesus and holy spirit are one. Mumu being one , doesn't mean they are different persons. Then if they are different persons, which person is closest? E mute

The Father is the Greatest of all, being one doesn't stop that

Being one doesn't stop one from being higher than others in position.

Position of being closest to the Father, is it Jesus or holy spirit ? U can never reply cos it would expose your fraud.

Secondly, how come sin against Jesus can he forgiven, but holy spirit can't. Holy spirit rank high pass Jesus ? Mumu
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by OLAADEGBU(op): 9:41pm On May 19, 2022
Today's prophecy question comes from Phyllis on Instagram. Phyllis was wondering:

Q: When I die, will I go directly to heaven or will I wait until the Rapture?

A: Before the Ascension of Christ, the souls of believers went to an intermediate heaven called "Paradise" when they died. But when Jesus ascended after His death, He went into Paradise and took its inhabitants - all the Old Testament saints - with Him to the third heaven (Ephesians 4:8-10).
In other words, believers no longer pass through the intermediate heaven upon death. The soul and spirit of today's believers go immediately to the third heaven because Paradise is now with God (2 Corinthians 12: 2-4).
The body goes to sleep, awaiting its resurrection at the Rapture, while the soul immediately arises to join our Lord in heaven.

Click here to read the full answer.

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